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#801 Posted: 18:18:59 17/03/2013
Yeah, the swaps dont have to be 2 legged, skinny, and the same height. a centaur would be awesome. and whats wrong with dragons?
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#802 Posted: 19:13:33 17/03/2013
i agree centaur would be awesome but problem with dragons is that if you have the legs as the lower part then the 2 legged character would look weird!
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#803 Posted: 22:18:09 17/03/2013
You know, I really want them to release this game on a Saturday, that way I can actually see the figures for myself and not send my dad the day after release...
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#804 Posted: 22:44:21 17/03/2013
I personally want some humanoid bird creature, a rhino, and badger mole, a centaur, and a fire girl
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#805 Posted: 01:19:33 18/03/2013
New game-play .......Look the same as the first game-play but if you watch both of them there different

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwjNkK-7-6I - Blast zone ( full screen videos its better than that lined side view videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiN3HqviQAk - Count Down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNRO9998o4 - Roller Brawl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2rBvXU_hWc - Erupter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyouVigPtYo - Magna Charge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5c7bNY0QAY - Wash Buckler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY2188Crc1g -Wash Charge
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#806 Posted: 02:29:01 18/03/2013
Those were all cut from the long Toy Fair 2013 demo video.
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#807 Posted: 02:48:42 18/03/2013
Quote: yokey25
I personally want some humanoid bird creature, a rhino, and badger mole, a centaur, and a fire girl



Doubt we'll get a female swaplander, for obvious reasons.
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#808 Posted: 02:54:23 18/03/2013
^ Hey, at least it wouldn't be as strange as Ditto from Pokemon - if you know what I mean...
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#809 Posted: 04:17:12 18/03/2013
Not to sound weird, but anything's possible.
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#810 Posted: 05:20:27 18/03/2013
Quote: yelvy
i agree centaur would be awesome but problem with dragons is that if you have the legs as the lower part then the 2 legged character would look weird!



that's the thing. they think if any swap force has a different body shape than the others, the swap will "look weird". thats why we are blessed with the power of imagination.
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#811 Posted: 11:55:52 18/03/2013
Quote: Aura24
Those were all cut from the long Toy Fair 2013 demo video.


ya watch these videos and the 2013 toy fair one there different they say the same thing but the game-play is different we get to see more of there attacks like wash bucklers charge up sword and the way some of the skylanders jump like roller brawl and wash buckler unlike the 2013 toy fair video

....look at eruptors 1.00min video and the toy fair video 2013 eruptors ..... toy fairs is like 20 sec and like I said the video of eruptor is 1.00min
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#812 Posted: 17:31:45 18/03/2013
It's not new gameplay. We will probably get some in June.
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#813 Posted: 17:38:02 18/03/2013
Yeah, at E3 2013.
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#814 Posted: 17:43:14 18/03/2013
Sorry, but when is E3?
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#815 Posted: 17:46:07 18/03/2013
June 11-13.
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#816 Posted: 18:19:53 18/03/2013
Wow, that's a long time. That's when the final wave of giants is supposed to be comming out right?

I haven't even finished wave one (I still need S2 Slam Bam!)
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#817 Posted: 18:54:02 18/03/2013
Im not that keen on collecting, just on the ones I like.
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#818 Posted: 19:35:16 18/03/2013
Is there any chance VV will be at PAX east? that con is around the corner.
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#819 Posted: 20:53:53 18/03/2013
Quote: Doomslicer
Quote: yokey25
I personally want some humanoid bird creature, a rhino, and badger mole, a centaur, and a fire girl



Doubt we'll get a female swaplander, for obvious reasons.



either way I didn't say I wanted a swap force and it as long as we get the characters it really doesn't matter if their swap or not
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#820 Posted: 21:26:08 18/03/2013
I say we should have female and 4 legged swaps, we have imagination for a reason!
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#821 Posted: 00:23:42 19/03/2013
Quote: henryszuch
Quote: Doomslicer
Quote: yokey25
I personally want some humanoid bird creature, a rhino, and badger mole, a centaur, and a fire girl



Doubt we'll get a female swaplander, for obvious reasons.



What about a core?



Roller Brawl says hello.
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#822 Posted: 00:32:24 19/03/2013
Quote: Matteomax
Quote: henryszuch
Quote: Doomslicer



Doubt we'll get a female swaplander, for obvious reasons.



What about a core?



Roller Brawl says hello.



Ya, she's all like "hello, oh hi!"
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#823 Posted: 00:50:26 19/03/2013
I didn't say we wouldn't get any new female corelanders.
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#824 Posted: 02:00:22 19/03/2013
Can you use all skylanders on the new game,giants and spyros adventure....because i have have many of both and that would be awful
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#825 Posted: 02:16:51 19/03/2013
Yes
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#826 Posted: 02:37:29 19/03/2013
All Skylanders from Spyro's Adventure and Giants will work in Swap Force.
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#827 Posted: 22:50:10 19/03/2013
Quote: [url=http://forum.darkspyro.net/spyro/viewposts.php?topic=73348&post=4147294
Aura24[/url]]All Skylanders from Spyro's Adventure and Giants will work in Swap Force.



speaking of that didn`t someone say that ssa skylanders wouldn`t work in swap force
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#828 Posted: 22:57:08 19/03/2013
Quote: yokey25
Quote: [url=http://forum.darkspyro.net/spyro/viewposts.php?topic=73348&post=4147294
Aura24[/url]]All Skylanders from Spyro's Adventure and Giants will work in Swap Force.



speaking of that didn`t someone say that ssa skylanders wouldn`t work in swap force


ITS A LIE
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#829 Posted: 23:39:13 19/03/2013
No need to go caps lock. But I think the Beings of Avarice realize that half the fanbase would leave them if they did that. Most of my characters are SSA.
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#830 Posted: 05:58:45 20/03/2013
Quote: Doomslicer
Quote: yokey25
I personally want some humanoid bird creature, a rhino, and badger mole, a centaur, and a fire girl


Doubt we'll get a female swaplander, for obvious reasons.


And those are?

I hope we do get one, and I hope she's clearly all feminine too (none of this tomboy stuff like Sprocket or that water chick). People need to stop with their transphobia.
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#831 Posted: 06:22:06 20/03/2013
I shan't go into calling anyone perverts... can we move on to a new topic for this?
Anyway, Roller Brawl looks awesome, and we'll probably get several other female corelanders
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#832 Posted: 11:29:39 20/03/2013
Quote: Hexin_Wishes
Quote: Doomslicer
Quote: yokey25
I personally want some humanoid bird creature, a rhino, and badger mole, a centaur, and a fire girl


Doubt we'll get a female swaplander, for obvious reasons.


And those are?

I hope we do get one, and I hope she's clearly all feminine too (none of this tomboy stuff like Sprocket or that water chick). People need to stop with their transphobia.



"none of this tomboy stuff" ... "people need to stop with their transphobia"

unreal.
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#833 Posted: 17:42:39 20/03/2013
Quote: AzureStarline

"none of this tomboy stuff" ... "people need to stop with their transphobia"

unreal.


That "tomboy" shade sounded harsher than I meant it, however I have no problem with it and that wasn't my point. FYI, Tomboys aren't automatically trans*. The majority of tomboys identify as being female (and heterosexual for that matter) and so are considered cisgendered. So keep your "unreal" comment to yourself.

MY POINT WAS THIS: In response to people saying there won't be any female Swap 'landers "for obvious reasons", I wanted to see a really feminine Swap 'lander because it would be awesome. The only "obvious reason" there would be for no female is because they would consider swapper her halves as a sex change.
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#834 Posted: 19:14:59 20/03/2013
^ Hermaphrodite, big deal....
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#835 Posted: 19:39:27 20/03/2013
Quote: kardonis
^ Hermaphrodite, big deal....


You clearly don't know what a hermaphrodite is.
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#836 Posted: 19:50:32 20/03/2013
omg... spyro getting a sex change... now i definitive not going to buy this game even if it goes cheap... after all there is a limit.
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#837 Posted: 19:54:20 20/03/2013
^But didn't you already say that you weren't going to buy Swap Force?
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#838 Posted: 19:57:21 20/03/2013
there was a very little glimpse of hope for that to happen, if i got it for cheap like in 2016 and all have forgotten about it.... but now that is gone for sure.
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#839 Posted: 21:45:24 20/03/2013
Considering that children have mixed dolls on purpose (see Toy Story), who cares if they mix genders when they swap?? I really don't see this as a problem. If they can make them all look cool regardless of which parts they have, then it doesn't matter. As to the "tomboy" comment, I think they appear "tomboy" because societies don't embrace the idea of a female fighting as natural, so we're often seen as a "tomboy" or worse discriminating comments. It's not fair really. We're targetted more often as potential victoms but if we fight back...ooooo...so baaadd!! I know some women who have dnd characters dressed in barbie pink, acting cutesy, and then when combat starts, kicking the ever-loving outta anything in their way! If it might make people feel better, they could vary the look of the females so they are more diverse visually, but you just know how that'll go. They'll make them each cheesy stereotypes that offend everyone and then go back to what they have now. When I see Sprocket, I see an engineer. Chill? A warrior. Ninjini is a ninja, so she's got the garb and weapons for it. Whilrwind is female, and while I think she's very feminine (as herself), she doesn't have all the stereotypes shoved on her either. You can enjoy them as they are, and hey, they happen to be girls. It's nice imo. They're individual, and (for me) believeable as a fighting force against evil. That's all that really matters anyway.

On another note, does Series 3 Stealth Elf seem to be cosplaying as a Klingon to you?? Those look like Gold Batlefs (spelling??), ad I still recall Worf from Next Generation wearing all black for that one episode.
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#840 Posted: 21:52:46 20/03/2013
Quote: TheLurk
Considering that children have mixed dolls on purpose (see Toy Story), who cares if they mix genders when they swap?? I really don't see this as a problem. If they can make them all look cool regardless of which parts they have, then it doesn't matter. As to the "tomboy" comment, I think they appear "tomboy" because societies don't embrace the idea of a female fighting as natural, so we're often seen as a "tomboy" or worse discriminating comments. It's not fair really. We're targetted more often as potential victoms but if we fight back...ooooo...so baaadd!! I know some women who have dnd characters dressed in barbie pink, acting cutesy, and then when combat starts, kicking the ever-loving outta anything in their way! If it might make people feel better, they could vary the look of the females so they are more diverse visually, but you just know how that'll go. They'll make them each cheesy stereotypes that offend everyone and then go back to what they have now. When I see Sprocket, I see an engineer. Chill? A warrior. Ninjini is a ninja, so she's got the garb and weapons for it. Whilrwind is female, and while I think she's very feminine (as herself), she doesn't have all the stereotypes shoved on her either. You can enjoy them as they are, and hey, they happen to be girls. It's nice imo. They're individual, and (for me) believeable as a fighting force against evil. That's all that really matters anyway.

On another note, does Series 3 Stealth Elf seem to be cosplaying as a Klingon to you?? Those look like Gold Batlefs (spelling??), ad I still recall Worf from Next Generation wearing all black for that one episode.



Yes! We need a Klingon skylander. Maybe a Ferangi too. Back on topic, I think Skylanders has done a good job of avoiding stereotypes. Stealth Elf is a ninja and one of the best characters in the game, Whirlwind is pretty feminine but can still hold her own and appeals to Psychedelic fans, etc. Just like the above poster said. I personally am lacking a female character for my collection, my brother tends to call them, but Roller brawl (correct?) looks great.
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#841 Posted: 22:09:20 20/03/2013
Quote: TheLurk
Considering that children have mixed dolls on purpose (see Toy Story), who cares if they mix genders when they swap?? I really don't see this as a problem. If they can make them all look cool regardless of which parts they have, then it doesn't matter. As to the "tomboy" comment, I think they appear "tomboy" because societies don't embrace the idea of a female fighting as natural, so we're often seen as a "tomboy" or worse discriminating comments. It's not fair really. We're targetted more often as potential victoms but if we fight back...ooooo...so baaadd!! I know some women who have dnd characters dressed in barbie pink, acting cutesy, and then when combat starts, kicking the ever-loving outta anything in their way! If it might make people feel better, they could vary the look of the females so they are more diverse visually, but you just know how that'll go. They'll make them each cheesy stereotypes that offend everyone and then go back to what they have now. When I see Sprocket, I see an engineer. Chill? A warrior. Ninjini is a ninja, so she's got the garb and weapons for it. Whilrwind is female, and while I think she's very feminine (as herself), she doesn't have all the stereotypes shoved on her either. You can enjoy them as they are, and hey, they happen to be girls. It's nice imo. They're individual, and (for me) believeable as a fighting force against evil. That's all that really matters anyway.


That was a huge thing that annoyed me and the main reason I threw shade at "tomboy" but that was a different conversation than what I was trying to get across with that poster. The upsetting fact is that any being remotely feminine (be it female or, especially, male) are still considered weak and not appropriate for fighting/action games unless they are overly sexualized. It's completely unfair, as you have said, and I don't appreciate it one bit. Sure, combat would render dresses, bikinis and high heels to not be appropriate fighting attire but there are women who can do it and "hold their own" being their fabulously feminine self. But, as I said before, that is another discussion all together.

The only humanoid-esque Skylander remotely feminine is Hex and she is essentially a witch. So far, Roller Brawl seems to be in the middle, not too Tomboy but not a "girlie-girl", but why not a feminine Swap 'lander?
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#842 Posted: 23:48:43 20/03/2013
I don't think there will be a female swapper. It would be cool if there was.
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#843 Posted: 00:04:08 21/03/2013
There might be a female robot skylander. Doubt it though.
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#844 Posted: 00:05:44 21/03/2013
Quote: Doomslicer
There might be a female robot skylander. Doubt it though.



Robots don't have genders. They have masculine and feminine characteristics.
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#845 Posted: 00:40:55 21/03/2013
The thing is, the developers can listen to everyone's ideas. no matter how right you are, even if you back up your opinions with 7 paragraphs, someone will still be against you. that's life. you cant please everyone. i see your point (pro femme), and i see every other argument-loving users' points. but if we want to agree to someone, we gotta disagree with something else.

im going to focus on the two groups here, pro female swap (for "equality", and righteousness"), and anti-female (for "gender confusion"). Pro wants a female, developers make female, anti gets mad. anti wants either/or gender, no inbetween. Pro gets mad.

In the end, the developers do what they want and hope we stop complaining. on a side note, i honestly see NOTHING wrong with the female characters we have now. it seems sometimes people try too hard and look too far into things. after every serious aspect, its all just a game.
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#846 Posted: 00:42:45 21/03/2013
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Quote: kardonis
^ Hermaphrodite, big deal....


You clearly don't know what a hermaphrodite is.



I know exactly what a hermaphrodite is, I just don't see the problem with it.....
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#847 Posted: 00:55:50 21/03/2013
Quote: SparCrux1101
The thing is, the developers can listen to everyone's ideas. no matter how right you are, even if you back up your opinions with 7 paragraphs, someone will still be against you. that's life. you cant please everyone. i see your point (pro femme), and i see every other argument-loving users' points. but if we want to agree to someone, we gotta disagree with something else.

im going to focus on the two groups here, pro female swap (for "equality", and righteousness"), and anti-female (for "gender confusion"). Pro wants a female, developers make female, anti gets mad. anti wants either/or gender, no inbetween. Pro gets mad.

In the end, the developers do what they want and hope we stop complaining. on a side note, i honestly see NOTHING wrong with the female characters we have now. it seems sometimes people try too hard and look too far into things. after every serious aspect, its all just a game.


I was with you for the first two characters but I would just like to say that I never implied there anything "wrong" with the female characters I called out as being tomboys. However, I was saying that they still conform to the patriarchal idea that masculine are the ideal protectors. I get what you're saying, and I have said "it's just a game many times before" but it is still important culturally. Kids as young as 3 play these games and so a more forward thinking ideology could be brought out more.

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^ Hermaphrodite, big deal....


You clearly don't know what a hermaphrodite is.



I know exactly what a hermaphrodite is, I just don't see the problem with it.....


The only reason I said that was because we weren't talking about hermaphrodites at all. Having both male/female genitalia is not the same thing as being trans* by definition.
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#848 Posted: 01:07:50 21/03/2013
^ Well, female top and male bottom is what the swap would end up being.
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