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--- Tier list thread now available in "GIANTS" flavour: //forum.darkspyro.net/spyro/viewposts.php?topic=62608 ---

This is a collaborative project that anyone who is interested can help work on.

I started us off by reading as many relevant threads as I could find, both here on DarkSpyro and on the Skylanders.proboards forums, to create an incomplete and probably inaccurate 5-tier rankings list to start us off: You lot helped with the rest. We are now in the process of researching, discussing and arguing our reasons for characters being moved up/down tiers until we get things just right.

There is an entirely separate version of the list for the Wii because of the statistical differences there. Different upgrade paths for each character, as well as the Legendary variants, are being considered as separate entities on the list.

This thread is only for PvP rankings for now, but perhaps we could make Single Player orientated tier lists later on if people want them?


Other Important stuff to know:

• At the moment we are mostly concerned with PvP here, not single player! Please remember this while posting.
  


• Please take in to account whether you use the Wii version or not before posting. This is important!
  


• The characters in each tier are listed in no particular order… for now? At a later date we could try to number them in order of ability if people feel up to the task.
  


• Try to avoid Arena Hazards, Items and Food when testing character match-ups to compile tier lists with.
  


• Do not make “Power of the Skylander depends on the person using it, different people have different play styles, etc” comments here. The reason why you shouldn't do this is in the disclaimer below.
  


• I still haven’t decided what we’ll do about heroic challenges. I was thinking we could do our best to compose a generalised tier list that assumes all characters have completed an equal amount of heroic challenges in any given match-up. If we come across a character that benefits from heroic challenges so much more/less than others to the point that it changes their tier, we might have to make a separate entry for that character with all heroic challenges completed and that character with none. If there are enough of these extreme differences then we may have to make entirely separate lists for characters that have completed all heroic challenges and characters that have completed none.
  


• A similar thing goes for arenas: We’ll try to make a generalised tier list that assumes no particular arena is being used in any given match-up.
  

EDIT: Nibelilt also made a nice little thread with a few other pointers that some people here keep missing: //forum.darkspyro.net/spyro/viewposts.php?topic=60463

BIG FINAL DISCLAIMER: Of course, these tier lists, as with any tier list for any game, are only meant to be taken as guidelines for the purely objective ability of each Skylander in an imaginary situation where the two opponents are of equal skill. In a real life situation, different people have different skills, strategies and play styles, so you should always remember that its these factors that ultimately decide the effectiveness of each Skylander you use. You should go by your personal play styles and use the Skylanders you like instead of going by everything on these tier lists!


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The Tier Lists (Work in Progress!)


Xbox360 / PS3 / PC Tier List


Wii Tier List

Actually all characters are good. Different people are good with different skylanders.

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Do not make “Power of the Skylander depends on the person using it” or similar comments here. This thread works under the assumption that in any given match-up, both players are equally good at using all skylanders.

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Actually all characters are good. Different people are good with different skylanders.

Really now? You think that? :3c

Anyway I haven't had the chance to play a lot of PvP, but this looks pretty good, considering the tier predictions with the Skylanders I have seemed to match up. Anyway, with the idea of an in-game/storymode tier list, I think that could really help with those trying to get the "beat Kaos with only one Skylander" trophy on the PS3, not sure if the Wii has something similar. (I think the Xbox does?)

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Actually all characters are good. Different people are good with different skylanders.

He has a point. It will be hard to say one character is better than the other because people have different play styles and the figures could also feature 2 unique paths. I think a list that would makes sense would be to identify what attacks , paths or hats best suited for each figure for either PVE or PVP.

Nope, Wii has no special awards system in place for any games.

List looks pretty good so far. Admittedly, I've never played the PvP, or even accessed it since I lack a second Nunchuck. While I certainly can't say for certain how a character performs in PvP, I'd guess that Triggs (And his Leg. counterpart)'s Golden Frenzy path might be pretty good in PvP.

But I dunno lawl. Nice to see a list though in the event that I'd ever take it up.

Ghost Roaster is crap on the Wii version.

On the 360/PS3/PC version, he is easily S ranked. On these versions of the game, you can quickly spin the analog stick in a 360 fashion and he will circle in the same spot. What makes him a beast, is the fact that in the 360/PS3/PC versions, when spinning like that and next to someone, it hits them for 30+ multiple times over the course of 30 seconds.

I need to go buy a capture card, and I will show everyone the difference. I've been thinking of this Roxio Game Capture.

I have also messed around with Hex, but I am in a rush to leave somewhere. So, I will either show you guys when I get back, or tell you. It depends on if I find this Roxio Capture thingy.

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Actually all characters are good. Different people are good with different skylanders.

He has a point. It will be hard to say one character is better than the other because people have different play styles and the figures could also feature 2 unique paths. I think a list that would makes sense would be to identify what attacks , paths or hats best suited for each figure for either PVE or PVP.

We really can't say that, though. Can you honestly look at Stealth Elf, compare her to Stump Smash, and list any reasons Stump Smash is her equal? What about Drobot vs. Trigger Happy? Play styles do influence who is better in whose hands in their specific tiers, but the concept of "objectively better" does exist in Skylanders.

Trigger Happy / Golden Frenzy is waaaaay too low ranked. The amount of damage output he does is insane, especially when combined with bouncing bullets. Sure he's no Drobot, but he's definitely a deadly contender. A fully charged Golden Yamato Blast tends to end matches too.

I used to think Terrafin belonged in the broken tier, but he has consistently dropped in my opinion to where I would no longer put him in the upper tier. At our house we've worked with only three tiers, top, middle and bottom. In that realm, Terrafin has been bumped down to the middle.

On the Wii version, Double Trouble is better than Drobot, Stealth Elf and Cynder. Therefore he should be at the top of the broken list.

In your unsorted characters, Hex on the Bone Crafter path is definitely in the upper half overall. I personally put her in my top group. Not the absolute best, but she only has a few bad matchups.

I disagree that Legendaries should be treated differently. At least on the Wii version (which is all I have) their stat advantage is so moderate that it hardly makes any difference at all.

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Trigger Happy / Golden Frenzy is waaaaay too low ranked. The amount of damage output he does is insane, especially when combined with bouncing bullets. Sure he's no Drobot, but he's definitely a deadly contender. A fully charged Golden Yamato Blast tends to end matches too.

I was thinkin the same exact thing. Glad someone else caught it.

I bought a capture card. I will test it tomorrow, and then I will film characters on Wii and on 360. I will show you how different some characters can play depending on version.

This should be a thing of the past on Giants, though, as Toys for Bob is handling all versions, instead of just Wii while Xpec handles HD consoles.

I wouldn't say Trigger Happy is ranked way low at all. The highest I could feasibly put him is just one tier up. Yamato Blasts are easily interrupted when not used at the start of the match, not feasible at the start at all against most opponents, and for any character in the A-tier or higher, 400 HP is nothing to take from a character with no defenses or escape tactics whatsoever.

Why is Boomer ranked so low? I find he can take out Voodood, Bash, Hex and even Stealth Elf. I am on the Wii.

I find that on wii, total tongue wrecking ball is probably average, as has tongue can repeatedly do 15, plus swallowing food can heal you and charge up your burp to 60. Also, the force field ball is still quite powerful. Ghost roaster shold easiely be in the A tier, and his charge is one of the best.

How can Zap and Trigger Happy be C-Tier? Zap is very powerful on both paths and Trigger happy is extremly strong on the Golden Frenzy path. They both are easily A Tier or even S Tier. Same goes for Sonic Boom.

suggestion for wii: prism break crystal in B tier and sonic boom medea in A. maybe it's just me, but i don't think prism break can keep up with terrafin, bash, double trouble, etc and sonic is very powerful. she has few counters. trigger happy money bags is stronger than golden frenzy, but idk if he is strong enough for b tier. zap tesla and wrecking ball tongue in D tier.

I will be going home soon. I will break out this capture card, play around with it a bit (have to learn how to record my voice and overlap it onto my videos also syncing it), and post some differences. I won't go indepth, because the real indepth stuff will be saved for my website (and Youtube channel). However, I will show you differences in two Skylanders.

I am going to do a playthrough of the PS3 version of the game, since I haven't finished that version. I have a good idea in mind as well. It's something I'd like to keep a secret, so when people see it on my site, it will be surprise. It has to do with the games. You will see.

From what I've seen, Trigger Happy is one of those characters that you'd think is powerful until you try to use him against someone who's good at PvP, then you realise that although that Yamato blast does amazing damage, it charges up too slowly and obviously to be of any use what so ever against opponents who aren't stupid. Then you realise that his total lack of mobility makes it easy for any fast opponent to run circles around him and strip away his tiny health pool.
I'll see how the discussions go, but I currently have no plans to raise his tier.

I'm wondering if I should do something with Zap. His Tesla Dragon path seems to be one of those paths that looks weak in terms of its numbers but somehow manages to trump its opponents under interesting circumstances when used by players who are good at playing keep-away.

I'm also thinking of doing something with Sonic Boom / Medea Griffin: Could someone give me some information on how she matches up against characters from the A Tier?

Your thing about Ghost Roaster sounds really interesting, GameMaster! I'd love to see some footage about that spinning trick you talked about.

• Hex / Bone Crafter placed in A Tier, on YaggleberryFinn's recommendation.
  
• Double Trouble / Channeler placed in Wii Version S Tier, on YaggleberryFinn's recommendation. May move later after more information.
  

Wouldn't the legendary ones go on the same rank as their normal counterparts? As they are practically the same but with slightly different stats, or do these actually make much of a difference? Same with Dark Spyro too

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Wouldn't the legendary ones go on the same rank as their normal counterparts? As they are practically the same but with slightly different stats, or do these actually make much of a difference? Same with Dark Spyro too

I know that the Legendary Variants have boosted stats compared to their normal counterparts, allthough I don't know by how much. I figured it couldn't hurt to treat them as unique entities on these tier lists, just for clarification's sake.

DarkSpyro is identical to normal Spyro (he's only different on the 3DS version as far as I'm aware), and is not included on these lists as such.

i don't think hex is so strong. maybe i'm really bad with her, but after you destroy her first wall she has lost. about the legendaries i think they should be the same rank of their normal counterparts.
about sonic boom:
VS ignitor: i don't know sorry
VS slam bam: i don't know
VS bash: i will try soon, but i think they are quite close to each other
VS voodood: sonic boom wins
VS dino-rang: thought match, but sonic boom is a little superior. every 3 battles, sonic boom wins 2
VS prism break: sonic boom wins
VS terrafin: another thought match, but sonic boom is still superior
VS eruptor: i don't know
VS hex: sonic boom wins

I'll be shooting some videos soon. Just gotta get a headset to record commentary.

I've been thinking about Slime Serpent Zap and Medea Griffin Sonic Boom and I've decided to go for it and increase their tiers.

We need those Unsorted characters put somewhere, people! I'd apreciate it if anyone could look through the unsorted characters lists and tell me how each one matches up against any other characters on the respective consoles.
If you could give me infromation on the real advantages and disadvantges of the characters then that would be very helpful. By this what I mean is think about which other characters give them problems (melee characters? ranged characters? fast-moving characters?) and which characters they can beat easily. Also think about their attacks, such as how powerful they are and how easy it is to actually hit the opponent with them.

• Sonic Boom / Medea Griffin moved to A Tier on Voodude's recommendation.
  
• Zap / Slime Serpent moved up to B Tier, just because it felt right. May move him later.
  
• All Legendary Variants placed in the same tiers as their normal counterparts on the recommenadtion of several people. Will move them later on after more information.
  

about trigger happy yeah golden yamato blast sucks in pvp. but moneybags is better and quite strong

I agree with you about Zap. Slime Serpent wins a lot more matches than he should be, even against much stronger characters. It's odd, but it happens too much to keep writing it off as a fluke. Zap is better than his numbers let on in that path. Easily.

For Sonic Boom testing...

Ignitor slaughters her. Almost impossible to win. Fire is strong to Wind, and his playstyle is strong to hers, meaning a seriously lopsided battle.
Slam Bam usually defeats her too, because charging melee far exceeds the damage of either of her attacks in the same amount of time, and she lacks workable escape tactics.
As for Eruptor, I can't imagine her possibly defeating him on Wii, but the nerfed PS360 is a little more hopeful.

Also, I'd say both Flameslingers and Prismancer are B-tier for sure. Hard to imagine any of the three losing consistently to a C-tier character.

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Slam Bam usually defeats her too, because charging melee far exceeds the damage of either of her attacks in the same amount of time, and she lacks workable escape tactics.

really? she usually kills every melee (even stealth elf) and also escape with the flying

Man, I have so much I want to share with everyone. All I can say is, everyone has every character wrong. Every character has potential. You just have to strategize.

I got so much I am going to be recording. However, I am trying to save it all for the website I am creating. I just bought a headset, and I am about to download a voice recording program, so I can inject it into my gameplay videos.

Trust me, though. When I can finally show off all of these videos - and I mean there will be a TON - you will see how everyone can win against everyone regardless of path chosen, due to strategizing (which shows this game has a hidden level of depth).

I am only doing one video comparison for now, to test things, which I will post. However, the main course, will be saved for the website.

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For Sonic Boom testing...

Ignitor slaughters her. Almost impossible to win. Fire is strong to Wind, and his playstyle is strong to hers, meaning a seriously lopsided battle.
Slam Bam usually defeats her too, because charging melee far exceeds the damage of either of her attacks in the same amount of time, and she lacks workable escape tactics.
As for Eruptor, I can't imagine her possibly defeating him on Wii, but the nerfed PS360 is a little more hopeful.

Thank you for that information.
If you think Sonic Boom / Medea Griffin should be moved down to B tier then say so. I'll trust your judgement on that call.

I'll put Flameslinger in the tiers you suggested, but I have a theory that Pyromancer on the Wii Version might have to go in C Tier, just because I read somewhere that Pyromancer was nerfed on the Wii. Can anyone varify this for me?

• Prism Break / Prismancer placed in B Tier on Tashiji's recommendation.
  
• Flameslinger / Marksman placed in B Tier on Tashiji's recommendation.
  
• Flameslinger / Pyromancer placed in B Tier on Tashiji's recommendation.
  

Here are a few recommendations i think of where to move skylanders for Wii:
Prism Break- Prismancer: Easily a B, as the longer range beam and triple refractions are a great help.
Flameslinger- Marksman: A B, but a strong one. If you spam the arrow button, then run away with the fire dash, you can take down pretty much any close range attacker.
Ghost roaster- Skull master- Easily a definate A. The charge is super powerful, and the chain whip is a lot stronger than your opponent would expect.

Hope you take this into consideration.

Like GameMaster said, it's all about strategy and experiance.

There is no black and white, no light and dark. There's just you.

Ah, to hell with it. I will show videos as I make them (doing mic tests at the moment to get my voice louder). People who copy my knowlegde are lying stealerpants.

I think I should just re-iterate something here that I said in the opening post:

"Do not make “Power of the Skylander depends on the person using it, different people have different play styles, etc” comments here. To quote Tashiji, the aim of this thread is to order the skylanders by their objective ability, and we work under the assumption that in any given match-up, both players are equally good at using all skylanders."


I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A POINT. All I'm saying is that if you're going to make comments like this, this thread isn't the place to make them.
This is a thread where we only care about the objective power of each Skylander, irrespective of the ability and experience of the players controlling them. Of course in a real life situation the skill level and strategic ability of each player is going to be a deciding factor in the effectiveness of each Skylander, not their position in these tier lists.

Hey, I'll write this as a disclaimer in the opening post if it makes you guys happy.

• Ghost Roaster / Skull Master on Wii Version placed in Tier A on Geekycat's recommendation.
  

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• Ghost Roaster / Skull Master on Wii Version placed in Tier A on Geekycat's recommendation.
  

O.o really?
ghost roaster is probably the most nerfed character on the wii. your charge will hit only 1 time and you have to wait it ends to start another attack. he is really vulnerable

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• Ghost Roaster / Skull Master on Wii Version placed in Tier A on Geekycat's recommendation.
  

O.o really?
ghost roaster is probably the most nerfed character on the wii. your charge will hit only 1 time and you have to wait it ends to start another attack. he is really vulnerable

That's useful information.
Should I smack him down to B or C tier?
And if he's only nerfed on the Wii then does that mean he's A Tier on the non-Wii consoles?

umm chop chop is accualy underated hes pretty good in my experience on both paths

He's S tier, in my opinion, on other consoles, when gone down the Fear Eater path, with current max heroics.

I wouldn't move Medea. She does well for herself against the numerous Earth champions in A tier. I don't know how Lightning Rod will alter my opinion on that, though. We might have an Air champion who actually dominates Earth instead of just does okay after the next wave. We'll just have to see what the next couple weeks bring.

Also, in my experience, even though it's worse than Master Blaster, Clockwork Dragon Drobot is either high B or low A anyway. Where do you think? He's kind of a borderline character. Destroys B, but due to how many Earth champions are in A, the type advantage is very prohibitive for Drobot's alternate build.

Elementalist Voodood is easily in B. He is verifiably worse than Marauder, but still a competent character.

Forest Ninja Stealth Elf in B, too. Significantly weaker than Pook Blade Saint... but not weak.

Probably Ultimate Rainbower Whirlwind to B, too. She's hard to place. I can't imagine her having a .500 record or below in the C tier though, and there are several favorable matchups in B for her.

Finally, Glacier Yeti almost definitely belongs in C. His non-upgraded punches are just too flimsy to predicate an offense on, and even the C-tier characters can get out of the way of his ice sculptures with relative ease.

EDIT: Oh, and I'm going to have to defend Chop Chop's position on the list, in both versions. He's an Undead champion who doesn't have a ghost of a chance (pun intended) against either of the current Life champions, which is supposed to be his strength. His shield doesn't work like it's supposed to; for an example of a working shield, see KAOS' Chop Chop. There's a world of difference, and K. Chop Chop's shield would be excellent in PVP, but the player's drops too early and easily to be practical, allows significant pushback against projectile characters which eliminates its use as a tactic to close distance, and often hinders his defenses more than it helps by being unpredictable. Additionally, he's a melee who, even on his melee build, is outdamaged by every other melee in the game by a wide margin, so what's the point? His HP isn't phenomenal, his one ranged attack (Bone Brambler) is easy to dodge and doesn't do great damage anyway, and worst of all, he's slow with no charging attack or serviceable tactic to close the gap at all. I know he's a favorite of a lot of people, but I've played a LOT of Chop Chop in PVP, and while he might have advantages to one or two characters in head-to-head matchups, I'd estimate he's severely weak to 80% of the characters in the game, and doesn't fare much better against the remaining 20, provided the two players are of even skill.

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• Ghost Roaster / Skull Master on Wii Version placed in Tier A on Geekycat's recommendation.
  

O.o really?
ghost roaster is probably the most nerfed character on the wii. your charge will hit only 1 time and you have to wait it ends to start another attack. he is really vulnerable

That's useful information.
Should I smack him down to B or C tier?
And if he's only nerfed on the Wii then does that mean he's A Tier on the non-Wii consoles?

idk about other console but skull ghost roaster is a c character. fear eater is better because he has more resilience, but idk if it's enough to be a B
about tashiji post and cho chop: i bought him yesterday and now i'm sad lol

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Actually all characters are good. Different people are good with different skylanders.

He has a point. It will be hard to say one character is better than the other because people have different play styles and the figures could also feature 2 unique paths. I think a list that would makes sense would be to identify what attacks , paths or hats best suited for each figure for either PVE or PVP.

We really can't say that, though. Can you honestly look at Stealth Elf, compare her to Stump Smash, and list any reasons Stump Smash is her equal? What about Drobot vs. Trigger Happy? Play styles do influence who is better in whose hands in their specific tiers, but the concept of "objectively better" does exist in Skylanders.

Stealth elf, Terrafin and Drobot are an exception. They are just over powered. But the rest are equal, it depends onthe other person's play style.

The situation with Ghost Roaster is starting to confuse me, for both upgrade paths and both versions.
I'll move the Wii version Skull master down to C Tier for now, but as for doing anything else I'll need more clear-cut information.

• Ghost Roaster / Skull Master for Wii version moved to C Tier.
  
• Drobot / Clockwork Dragon placed in A Tier for now.
  
• Voodood / Elementalist placed in B Tier.
  
• Stealth Elf / Forest Ninja placed in B Tier.
  
• Whirlwind / Ultimate Rainbower placed in B Tier.
  
• Slam Bam / Glacier Yeti placed in C Tier.
  

Also, as much as my fandom for Ignitor persists, I've really got to say Battlemaster belongs in C. 480 HP is just way too low to melee attack and come out ahead against most names in the B tier, especially with damage that's only really average on the close-range spectrum. Not only that, without the ability to leave his flame form at will like SoF's flame soul explosion allows that build to do, his armor pile makes him a sitting duck when using his secondary attack. His charged slice is nice, but isn't as practical as it should be if matches are to be won against any halfway decent opponent.

Very tempted to put Dino-Rang on Earthen Avenger in B. He's not the powerhouse Grand Boomerang Master is, but his stats overall are too high for it to really be fair to C-tier characters having to face him. The +40 Armor on Earthen Avenger, and much more capable sand traps, leave this build almost viable in the end, one of the better defenders in the entire game, and just a little bit of damage output from also being A.

I would like to say that I feel that Tempest dragon Whirlwind is way too low. She is very powerful on this path and takes out melee characters that need to be near you out with relative ease. She should be A tier at the leasti

Boomer is easily A tier(on the Wii at least). He takes little skill to use, and does a ton of damage every second. When I was Stealth Elf, my younger brother beat me with Boomer. Boomer also beats Bash with ease, and Voodood and Sonic Boom. I reckon he could easily beat the entire B tier.

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Boomer is easily A tier(on the Wii at least). He takes little skill to use, and does a ton of damage every second. When I was Stealth Elf, my younger brother beat me with Boomer. Boomer also beats Bash with ease, and Voodood and Sonic Boom. I reckon he could easily beat the entire B tier.

boomer is an hard choice imo. it's probably superior to B, but idk if it's enough for him to be an A

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I would like to say that I feel that Tempest dragon Whirlwind is way too low. She is very powerful on this path and takes out melee characters that need to be near you out with relative ease. She should be A tier at the leasti

But how well does she actually do in matchups against the characters in Tiers A and B? That's what I need to know.

Boomer on the Wii version is being kept in B Tier for now. I'll move him when more clear-cut information is available.
Remember, at some point later on I'm thinking of dividing the A Tier in to an upper-A and lower-A Tier. Perhaps Boomer would fit in that Lower-A Tier?

• Ignitor / Blademaster placed in C Tier.
  
• Dino-Rang / Earthen Avenger placed in B Tier for now.
  

EDIT: Slightly unrelated, but I've just been reading a thread over at 'Proboards where someone did an in-depth analysis of how Double Trouble matches up with both upgrade paths of most other characters in the game. It makes for a very interesting read.

I got my mic to work yesterday, but decided to go out last night and have some fun.

I will be doing a video of each character, down each upgrade path, against each character, after 26 Heroics, in order to show how they match up and can beat each character.

In other words, I will be doing - currently - 62 videos based around PVP matchups and strats. That doesn't even include the videos I will be making, which show comparisons between the Wii and 360/PS3/PC versions.

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I got my mic to work yesterday, but decided to go out last night and have some fun.

I will be doing a video of each character, down each upgrade path, against each character, after 26 Heroics, in order to show how they match up and can beat each character.

In other words, I will be doing - currently - 62 videos based around PVP matchups and strats. That doesn't even include the videos I will be making, which show comparisons between the Wii and 360/PS3/PC versions.

sounds great!

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I got my mic to work yesterday, but decided to go out last night and have some fun.

I will be doing a video of each character, down each upgrade path, against each character, after 26 Heroics, in order to show how they match up and can beat each character.

In other words, I will be doing - currently - 62 videos based around PVP matchups and strats. That doesn't even include the videos I will be making, which show comparisons between the Wii and 360/PS3/PC versions.

Good luck!

Floral Defender Zook is an easy A-tier. His cacti shields verge on broken with the Soul Gem upgrade; high damage for a shield, kock-back, and thanks to the Soul Gem, can be shot in groups of five to virtually any location. And, since they are not localized like Hex's bone shields, he can fill the arena with them in seconds. Additionally, his actual damage from mortars and bazooka shots is quite respectable. He's a character who actually does defensive tactics justice, his cactus shields are beastly, and I can't see a single character in the B-tier who could beat him to be perfectly honest. His only real competition, from what testing I've done so far, is A-tier or above.

I'll keep working with Artilleryman, and both of Rod's and Sunburn's builds.

Is this Wii or 360/PS3/PC, Tash?

Remember, lots of differences between versions when it comes to how a Skylander plays on PVP. Hex's Bone Wall damages people on Wii, while on the other versions it does not.

Ghost Roaster's Skull Charge hits more than once per hit on every system but Wii.