darkSpyro

In my opinion not. Why? Let me explain

It all depends on the person controlling the Skylander. For example, lot's of people say Zap is very weak, but, that is them, I say Zap is a good Skylander, and that is because I have learned to control Zap properly.

Lot's of people say Voodood is strong and a good Melee, but I don't think so, because I'm terrible with him. I can't use him properly in combat and to me it doesn't even feel like he has range.

And so on, everyone has thier own opinion, and those who say the other's opinion is wrong should think of themselves wen they use that one Skylander...

Please, I wish the words "Weak" and "Worst" didn't excist in the Skylanders Universe

Anyways what is your opinion? Do you think there is a "weak"/"worst" Skylander? And why?

Weak makes sense since it depends on damage not play style.

Weak=Yes.

I would say no to Worst because people have different opinions, play styles and strategy.

Worst=No.

I can see what you mean, but some people use the word "weak" isntead of "worst" with pisses me off

What bob said...

I've gone over it a couple times on the PVP thread: YES you CAN play a "weak" Skylander and play them well, and make them useful... But it requires more effort than a "stronger" one, no? A player skilled with a weak Skylander could be "better" than an unskilled player using a "stronger" one... But a player with equal skill using a "stronger" Skylander than yours is probably going to fare better.

This isn't nessicarily bad, if you don't enjoy "strong"/"OP" ones, by all means use "weak" ones, even that sets you at a "disadvantage". The game is about having fun- use whatever floats your boat, play the game how you want, if you really like a "weak" Skylander you can still enjoy using them even though they may not be as strong as others.

Strong =/= good, weak =/= bad, and vise versa- those things are subjective. I admire when Skylanders are stronger and do enjoy them, but I have more fun with weaker ones because they challenge me... Others might enjoy "steamrolling" the game more with stronger ones. Neither is nessicarily good or bad. If you're in the mood you can enjoy both of them... Sometimes I want to play a more mindless one too.

It does really pee me off when people say a because a Skylander is "weak"/they have some serious flaw that they inherinetly suck because of it though, for the reasons I just explained. I can say the same of certain "OP" ones because I find a few incredibly boring but lots of people would say "no, they're powerful so they're good, what are you smoking!".
"Worst" Skylanders is subjective opinion- a "weaker" one is not inherinetly, objectively "worse", even if you enjoy it less. They should not be the same term. Look at Zoo Lou, he's not the strongest, but it seems people like him quite a bit(though I honestly haven't seen many opinions on him... I think he's underrated). Some get more hate than others, sure, and some may honestly be objectively "worse" because they're poorly balanced or something but I've seen a couple people in the past in this fandom trying to push their opinions of which Skylanders "suck" onto others(which is where it gets ugly).

*note: there are several landers in the games I think are just underpowered to the point it's pretty much self-deprecating using them or those who are overpowered to the point using them is simply dull, and in those cases I do think they're balanced badly, and are too challenging to use to actually enjoy/too strong and easy to use and provide absolutely no challenge, thus little satisfaction for doing anything.

^Finally a person who seems to see what is going on here....

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^Finally a person who seems to see what is going on here....

Okay just ignore me then.

Yes, there are weaker and stronger Skylanders.

If you want to measure it, you can use damage per second as one measurement. Survivability is another one. Also depends on the scenarios, e.g. PVP, arena, story, etc.

Sure you can make it up by playing better but objectively using these measurements, you can say one is weaker or stronger than the other. That's not to say these measurements are never subjectively measured

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^Finally a person who seems to see what is going on here....

Okay just ignore me then.

I didn't ignore you, but I was too lazy to multi quote ;>>

Did you know that in the first game, if you add up the stats of the skylanders, there is 4 numbers, one from each element adds uo to one of the numbers? It's almost like a ranking system,
Like, magic's originals stat ranking was:

1. Spyro
2. Double Trouble
3. Wrecking Ball
4. Voodood

Meh. Coming from a Street Fighter state of mind

Yes there can be a weakest skylander. There can technically be a worst skylander. Doesn't mean someone can't have fun with them, it doesn't mean someone can't succeed with them (in more complex fighting games being sucktastic can be an advantage at times as people aren't necessarily used to going against said character).

Personal preference is NOTHING but preference. I love playing as grapplers in fighting games, but 9/10 times they are mid tier as best, and often fall to the bottom of tiering. It doesn't change my level of fun (until you get to the pinnacle of competition and run into 7/3 match-ups), but I will openly admit that a certain character of mine is low tier. As AoA pointed - sticking with Skylanders here, Drobot is one of my favorites (Prism Break's been number 1 until SF) in part because he's my ace in the hole - but ALOT of people don't like him.

Doesn't matter, he was still one of the strongest by a mile in SSA and Giants. Same goes for Ghost Roaster in SSA...he was another 'one button aquitter' with no real variation in technique - pretty much brain dead. But he destroyed that game. Doesn't matter if yo uhave fun with them or not, they are both pretty upper echelon.

Again personal preference != tiering. There are characters that people like in the game that are HORRIBLE in PvE and PvP, bottom barrel characters, yet people try and pretend at times as though - because they like them, they are 'good characters'. No.

It's a kid's game so people sugar coat tiering, but there are def tiers in the game for PvP and PvE, and level of enjoyment has nothing to do with it.

and on a sidenote its even worse in Swapforce where characters who are often fun are so weak (looking at Prism Break), that they aren't fun at ALL.
-Unreall

Weak yes,worst is too subjective - You have to see it from game mode,Element,stats,abilities... There's probably a worst for every single one of those categories,but no worst overall most likely.
Weak is very possible,and so is REALLY weak - Taking for example a Shade Master Hex,which is usable in SSA but won't last long in Giants' hardest difficulty modes,and is nigh unplayable in most of Swap Force. However,even if her speed is abysmal and her attack doesn't make up for it(unlike Bone Crafter Hex), there's probably a Magic character in a bad upgrade path that she can beat.

I Changed Bone Crafter Hex to Shade Master Hex because i could not keep up with my brother killing all the monsters .
Hex pretty much outshines other "stronger" skylanders on the DS because she can hover .

Voodood well for the first few times in PVP he minced poor Spyro in seconds .His DPS is very fast as long as his is within chopping range . I always considered him my heavy hitter .

Some Skylanders have cool powers that may not be as awesome as Drobot Lasers but they have longer replay value .

My choice of which skylanders to buy next has nothing to do with how "strong" or "weak" they are . For some reason i think they are cool and i decided I want them .

I dont have a problem adjusting the difficulty setting of a game . All my skylanders are " Wargods " on easy mode .
For me finishing a game is more important than finishing it on Nightmare level . I dont care if so and so skylander is better for that job . I decided already if i like him or not .

Of course the developers are going to make the new skylanders more powerful than the older ones . They want you to buy them .

No... Because, you can say that one is worst... exemple I don't like swarm... But it's not true. I say that Swarm is really bad and need to be removed from skylanders cuz he's not powerful... But maybe it's just because I'm using it wrong or at the wrong moment! So I think that all the skylanders are good but some are overpowered!

there is no worst skylander, but there are some weak ones. they could easily be divided in tiers. Zap is one of the worst skylanders, he should be in the lower tier, but is he the worst? nope. even if he'll never win against a proper drobot, terrafin, or even dino rang or boomer, he can still win some battles and beat some medium/weak characters. the same can be said about all the skylander considered weak

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Did you know that in the first game, if you add up the stats of the skylanders, there is 4 numbers, one from each element adds uo to one of the numbers? It's almost like a ranking system,
Like, magic's originals stat ranking was:

1. Spyro
2. Double Trouble
3. Wrecking Ball
4. Voodood

weird, because an actual ranking would be:
1 Double Trouble
2 Voodoo on the Marauder path
3 Wrecking Ball on the Ultimate Spinner path (could be 2 with a skilled player)
4 Spyro (could be 2 with a very skilled player)

Note that all of these consideration were made excluding the s2 figures and the wow pows

It's really a matter of quantification. I can quantify that a Skylander like Zap will, on average, produce less damage than say Bumble Blast. So in essence Zap is weaker than Bumble Blast. That being said some would say Zap is better at mobility than Bumble Blast, which would be true. In regards to worst that's really based on individual factors. I remember when people were hating on Boomer. I made it my personal challenge to play an entire S.S.A. play through using just him. It was a blast...quite literally. His slam path was disgusting and he became one of my personal favs. I also considered him one of the most powerful Skylanders ever made...and I still do. So some things are a fact (like weaker or stronger) while others are opinion based (like best, better or worse and worst). Coincidentally I think VooDood is amazing. Mainly because he has one of the strongest melee damaging basic combos in the game and he has a very unique way to close for his melee attacks. I wish Whammy had half his mobility.

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It's really a matter of quantification. I can quantify that a Skylander like Zap will, on average, produce less damage than say Bumble Blast. So in essence Zap is weaker than Bumble Blast. That being said some would say Zap is better at mobility than Bumble Blast, which would be true. In regards to worst that's really based on individual factors. I remember when people were hating on Bommer. I made it my personal challenge to play an entire S.S.A. play through using just him. It was a blast...quite literally. His slam path was disgusting and he became one of my personal favs. I also considered him one of the most powerful Skylanders ever made...and I still do. So some things are a fact (like weaker or stronger) while others are opinion based (like best, better or worse and worst). Coincidentally I think VooDood is amazing. Mainly because he has one of the strongest melee damaging basic combos in the game and he has a very unique way to close for his melee attacks. I wish Whammy had half his mobility.

That is a lot of the problem that happened with SSA. People wouldn't fully upgrade,level, and get all the Heroics for him.

For me, not really every Skylander is balanced

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I remember when people were hating on Boomer. I made it my personal challenge to play an entire S.S.A. play through using just him. It was a blast...quite literally. His slam path was disgusting and he became one of my personal favs. I also considered him one of the most powerful Skylanders ever made...and I still do. So some things are a fact (like weaker or stronger) while others are opinion based (like best, better or worse and worst). Coincidentally I think VooDood is amazing. Mainly because he has one of the strongest melee damaging basic combos in the game and he has a very unique way to close for his melee attacks.

what i'm noticing here is that if you say voodood/boomer/*insert "ugly" skylander here is weak, everything is ok, even if that character is really strong. like boomer. no one who has really tried boomer can say it's the worst skylander, because his damage is fantastic. on the demolition troll path, you can just run around spamming the troll bombs, knocking back your enemies and dealing a lot of damage. and voodoo is one of the best melee character, it's not a matter of opinion and playstyle. his combo are the ones who deal most damage in the first game, it's a matter of math.
then when you say that a character like zap, who is liked by a lot of people, is weak and he is really weak (matter of math again), the world falls apart.
zap is weak, deal with it. it may be sad, but he is. his projectiles are the weakest in the game (math again), his best strategy is to circle his enemy with the slime. but even with this strategy, he is the weakest. flameslinger circling his enemies with the flames or boomer doing that with his bombs will deal more damage.
i know it may be sad to deal with the fact that one of your favourite characters is weak, but eh... what can you do? one of my favourite character is stump smash on the Smash'n Bash path. i love throwing that acorn... but that doesn't make his character less weak. his damage is still too low, the Smash Meganut attack is a joke... i still play with him, but not against every opponent, because i know that against the strongest skylander he doesn't have a chance (and i know it because i tried... multiple times. i can win against flameslinger, it's very hard, but i can't win against sonic boom or drobot)

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I remember when people were hating on Boomer. I made it my personal challenge to play an entire S.S.A. play through using just him. It was a blast...quite literally. His slam path was disgusting and he became one of my personal favs. I also considered him one of the most powerful Skylanders ever made...and I still do. So some things are a fact (like weaker or stronger) while others are opinion based (like best, better or worse and worst). Coincidentally I think VooDood is amazing. Mainly because he has one of the strongest melee damaging basic combos in the game and he has a very unique way to close for his melee attacks.

what i'm noticing here is that if you say voodood/boomer/*insert "ugly" skylander here is weak, everything is ok, even if that character is really strong. like boomer. no one who has really tried boomer can say it's the worst skylander, because his damage is fantastic. on the demolition troll path, you can just run around spamming the troll bombs, knocking back your enemies and dealing a lot of damage. and voodoo is one of the best melee character, it's not a matter of opinion and playstyle. his combo are the ones who deal most damage in the first game, it's a matter of math.
then when you say that a character like zap, who is liked by a lot of people, is weak and he is really weak (matter of math again), the world falls apart.
zap is weak, deal with it. it may be sad, but he is. his projectiles are the weakest in the game (math again), his best strategy is to circle his enemy with the slime. but even with this strategy, he is the weakest. flameslinger circling his enemies with the flames or boomer doing that with his bombs will deal more damage.
i know it may be sad to deal with the fact that one of your favourite characters is weak, but eh... what can you do? one of my favourite character is stump smash on the Smash'n Bash path. i love throwing that acorn... but that doesn't make his character less weak. his damage is still too low, the Smash Meganut attack is a joke... i still play with him, but not against every opponent, because i know that against the strongest skylander he doesn't have a chance (and i know it because i tried... multiple times. i can win against flameslinger, it's very hard, but i can't win against sonic boom or drobot)

Yeah inserting VooDood and Boomer were obvious choices for characters that people used to call "worst" and it used to make me sad. That was also a clear example of "worst" being down to play style and having nothing to do with the Skylander itself. Both Boomer and VooDood are two of my personal favs. that happen to do a crap load of damage. Don't even get me started on Gil Grunt (S.S.A. Gil Grunt, I know he's been nerfed now). I think the main thing is that people tend to pigeon hole characters to the "worst" category based on play style and preference. There are legitimately weaker characters but the usually make up for the damage loss in other ways like movement or crowd control.