Yep, I don't like how they changed that (you keep this powerup in Spyro 2 so it's a big factor of replaying levels for me), it's just a small ball now, it was a freaking Kamehameha in the original and had more impact on the enemies and surrounding
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#1 Posted: 20:20:05 17/11/2018 | Topic Creator
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#2 Posted: 11:40:34 18/11/2018
it looked the exact same to me
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#3 Posted: 18:10:53 18/11/2018
Yeah, they also didn't give it the big blast sound effect, it just makes a regular flame noise now.
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#4 Posted: 12:33:07 19/11/2018
It was always a fireball, they just significantly reduced the tail streak it had. It never was a KameHameHa, which is a beam.
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#5 Posted: 07:01:47 20/11/2018
Honestly, I don’t mind the lessened boom, it’s much less jarring. Besides, it still feels powerful! Knocks enemies and fodder all over then place, and the glowing orange stripes look gorgeous and brilliant. MUCH cooler than the weird red-to-green hue fluctuation.
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#6 Posted: 17:49:51 23/11/2018
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Hahaha I have to agree with the OP. The tail streak did look like a beam in the og tbh
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#7 Posted: 23:30:20 23/11/2018
Yeah, I don't mind the changes either, Spyro's new appearance with it more than makes up for it.
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#8 Posted: 23:53:27 23/11/2018
I would have preferred if it made a loud booming noise both when breathing and when it hit something, but other than that I’m more than fine with the new look.
As others have said, Spyro himself adds the cool factor where the fireball lacks it.
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#9 Posted: 21:06:54 03/12/2018
I love the Super Flame, it look's fine to me, and Spyro look's so badass with his new look using the power up.
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#10 Posted: 22:14:08 07/04/2019
While most of what is listed above is simply true, even though debatable in terms of being better or worse than the original (different for sure), I have to disagree with the last point.
Assuming the “wilfdire”’ skin you are referring to is the one Spyro obtains when kissed by specifc fairies in the first game, which allows him to kill big armored enemies by breathing fire, then it’s completely different from his Superflame look in the second and third titles. In fact, each powerup which originally changed Spyro’s color now grants him a unique appearance both in terms of color and motif, as you can see here: I don’t see neither lazyness nor superficiality in that approach, especially when considering that three out of those powers appear once or twice at most in the entire trilogy. Aside for the lack of a booming sound effect both when breathing and when the fireball impacts with something, the thing I’m disappointed the most about Superflame is its underwater counterpart: I really miss the energy-like star spit in a swirly motion.
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#11 Posted: 10:14:23 08/04/2019
I prefer the original powerup colours, but looking at the pictures Drek95 posted I kinda have to admit they look awesome, and the artists definitely put work into keeping the idea consistent. I think were these looks introduced in an original Spyro game (Spyro and Johnbonne 8: Robotica Erotica in New Metropica, make it happen) rather than taking an already established 'look', they may have been better received. I couldn't comment on the sound design; between the Elgato/my monitor being awkward with sound and simply being stubborn with opinions, I doubt I'd prefer the new ones. I'll have to come back to this when I've given it more thought, but generally my opinion is "eeeeeeeh".
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#12 Posted: 15:46:01 08/04/2019
How come we only see the Super charge skin in the boss fight of Ripto? I feel like we should see that skin when Spyro goes through the Super charge in a regular level as well, right?
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#13 Posted: 17:07:33 08/04/2019
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I think there might be two reasons behind that decision: The first, and less valid one, is that Spyro didn’t change his appearance in the original games either when supercharging, so they probably thought it would have been better received if it stayed that way. I say it’s a rather weak motivation because we’ve seen a lot of reinterpretations throught the whole remake, so I doubt they would have been afraid of changing that as well. The second reason however is a more “lore-based” one: the supercharge-like power Spyro uses against Ripto comes from the special orbs he collects during the fight, so it’s more similar to the Superflame or Ice Breath powerups in terms of function and effects, all of which change his look. They could have used those colors for when he uses the Supercharge Gates in the second game, thought, since they act the same as all the other powerups. Maybe it’s simply because the orbs fully power Spyro up for a short amount of time, instead of just bestowing that specific ability on him or needing him to use specific magical speedways. As always, a long and convoluted post which can be summed up as: because they are most likely two different “enchantments”, despite having the same result.
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#14 Posted: 23:15:53 08/04/2019
Yeah, I agree.
They probably thought it might have been excessive to have it on each time you supercharged for whatever reason, especially since the skin apparently comes with particles and the supercharging effect is already quite distracting as it is.
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#15 Posted: 12:11:51 25/04/2019
I just miss the noise it made when fired and hitting something.
It was more like firing a cannon than using flames.
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#16 Posted: 18:22:55 25/04/2019
Yeah, that was one satisfying "boom".
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