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PSA- Swapforce skylanders work diffrently on Nintendo switch version!
darkrai848 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3096
#1 Posted: 20:45:26 03/03/2017 | Topic Creator
Ok, I have been slowly scanning in my army of over 400 skylanders in to my switch version. Every thing was going great until I got to my swapforce collection (the ones that have 2 parts not the core skylanders from that game). They don't remember anything at all, they all scan in at level 20 (even the ones that are level 1 or such) with 0 gold and no upgrades.

After tests it seems it is because the NFC reader in the switch does not attempt to read the top part of the figure only the bottom.

PS. The switch does read vehicles and gives you a free silver chest with 10 imaginator parts for each one scanned.

Edit: removed info that tuned out to be wrong.
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Edited 3 times - Last edited at 02:54:36 04/03/2017 by darkrai848
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#2 Posted: 20:59:42 03/03/2017
Oof, that unfortunately does make sense... portals had to be upgraded for Swap Force to allow for more tags to be read so it could use characters with multiple chips.

I am a little surprised that:
a) TfB didn't implement a hack where it loads both halves from the bottom tag (and then you just swap digitally through the collection menu) or;
b) Activision/TfB didn't mention that Swap Force figures wouldn't be usable when they said that racing was removed.

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#3 Posted: 21:08:03 03/03/2017 | Topic Creator
After checking more I found them in the menu, they do work. you have to swap them in the game under a swap menu. So you can use them, they just show up a bit differently then the rest of the skylanders.

But the part about there stats still stands, they all scan in at level 20, 0 gold and no upgrades (no matter what they had before). But other then that they work as always (you just have to find the menu.
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#4 Posted: 21:11:29 03/03/2017
Weird, but... YAY, at least they work!
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#5 Posted: 21:22:16 03/03/2017
Speaking of parts, do you have all the Adventure Pack parts already unlocked on the switch? It seemed ambiguous in the other thread about this.
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#6 Posted: 21:48:02 03/03/2017
Quote: darkrai848
After checking more I found them in the menu, they do work. you have to swap them in the game under a swap menu. So you can use them, they just show up a bit differently then the rest of the skylanders.

But the part about there stats still stands, they all scan in at level 20, 0 gold and no upgrades (no matter what they had before). But other then that they work as always (you just have to find the menu.


Have you checked to see if those Swap Force characters are still okay in other consoles after adding them on Switch? My first thought was I hope they don't get reset to match what you're getting on the Switch.
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#7 Posted: 22:02:24 03/03/2017
Ah man. Not a huge deal, but that still suuuucks. Getting gold for upgrades for all of them will take time. Thank God for the undead zones.
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#8 Posted: 22:20:15 03/03/2017
Question. I heard from a Skylanders Switch event that if you haven't played a character in a while you have to rescan them to play them. Have you encountered this? Seems pointless to me if this is true. Also when you scan in hundreds of Skylanders, what does the menu look like to choose which one you want? Is it easy to navigate through hundreds of characters?
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#9 Posted: 23:01:25 03/03/2017 | Topic Creator
Quote: blueruckus
Question. I heard from a Skylanders Switch event that if you haven't played a character in a while you have to rescan them to play them. Have you encountered this? Seems pointless to me if this is true. Also when you scan in hundreds of Skylanders, what does the menu look like to choose which one you want? Is it easy to navigate through hundreds of characters?



Have not encountered having to rescan, but I can say that after you scan them in they are already scanned in on all saves on your file.

As for what it looks like on the selection menu its a mess if you scan in a lot, basically its just one long scrolling line. Swapers are first and then every other figure is then shown in the order you first scanned them. Takes some time to find the one you want, on the other hand for me with over 400 skylanders its a lot faster than looking all over my house for the one I want.
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#10 Posted: 00:19:18 04/03/2017
So, instead of "unplayable", more like "huge hassle to play with". At least TFB accounted for the issue rather than actually letting them glitch out just because it's VV and they aren't around to complain.
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#11 Posted: 00:41:47 04/03/2017
Well, in this case I think a change to the topic title would be justified. Can topic creators do that, or only mods?
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#12 Posted: 00:48:43 04/03/2017
has anything been said about you needing to rescan toys after a while if a skylander goes unused? thats a concern for me
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#13 Posted: 01:25:03 04/03/2017 | Topic Creator
Quote: Drawdler
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every other figure is then shown in the order you first scanned them


Aw boooooo

Does rescanning stuff affect the list's order at all?


No rescanning does not change the list, but you can delete a skylander from the list and rescan it and it will then be in the first spot on the list.

Quote: Darkling183
Well, in this case I think a change to the topic title would be justified. Can topic creators do that, or only mods?


Title has been changed.

Quote: HeyitsHotDog
has anything been said about you needing to rescan toys after a while if a skylander goes unused? thats a concern for me



Have not seen this, but I hope its not true as scanning them once was hard enough
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#14 Posted: 02:50:33 04/03/2017 | Topic Creator
New find, it can't read the "Special tag" in swapforce skylanders. My metallic green washbuckler does not show up as special and does not get his own entry in the collection menu (like he does in the Wii U version) but my non swapper chase still do.
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#15 Posted: 05:16:05 04/03/2017
Hmm - maybe the info that identifies the swapper as a variant is in the top half, and so it doesn't get read by the Switch? =(
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#16 Posted: 08:29:36 04/03/2017
So going back to my original inquiry, I asked on Reddit too and someone is saying that they have to rescan their figure every time they want to play it. Sounds like something is buggy somewhere if you guys are reporting differently.

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyla...switch/deh5mk2/
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#17 Posted: 08:37:14 04/03/2017
You scan twice, then you never have to scan that figure again, unless you clear it from the collection.
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#18 Posted: 09:17:16 04/03/2017
What about quests? Are they still on the toy? I don't want another heroic challenge bug...
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#19 Posted: 09:33:30 04/03/2017
The quests should still be on the figure's top half, as the game does not (and cannot) overwrite any of its data. But since the game also doesn't receive any data other than identifying the figure from the bottom half's ID string, the quest data isn't imported into the game either.
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#20 Posted: 11:32:28 04/03/2017
Quote: McMurderpaws
Oof, that unfortunately does make sense... portals had to be upgraded for Swap Force to allow for more tags to be read so it could use characters with multiple chips.


I'm using PC USB Skylanders Spyro's Adventure Portal of Power with PS3 Supercharger, and it reads two swappers and a vehicle for co-op gaming with no problems.
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#21 Posted: 14:46:10 04/03/2017
Quote: Flame58
You scan twice, then you never have to scan that figure again, unless you clear it from the collection.



Just some clarification. When you say scan twice, do you have to put it on take it off and put it right back on? Or, do you have to scan a figure, then another, and go back to the other figure? Thanks!
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#22 Posted: 16:36:46 04/03/2017 | Topic Creator
Quote: pezskylander
Quote: Flame58
You scan twice, then you never have to scan that figure again, unless you clear it from the collection.



Just some clarification. When you say scan twice, do you have to put it on take it off and put it right back on? Or, do you have to scan a figure, then another, and go back to the other figure? Thanks!



When you first scan a figure you can play as it right away, but the figure will be grayed out in the selection screen and say "scan this figure again to unlock" after you scan it again it is unlocked to play as digitally all you want. You can scan it again right away or scan other things and scan it again later ether one will work. But to unlock a skylander digitally you have to scan it 2 times.
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#23 Posted: 15:58:43 06/03/2017
Thanks for clarifying this as I wasn't sure why 2 scans was needed. More importantly, how does 2 player mode work? Is the 2 joycons enough or does each player need a set of joycons? Do both players share the same digital library or is there a catch?
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#24 Posted: 16:11:14 06/03/2017
Quote: blueruckus
Thanks for clarifying this as I wasn't sure why 2 scans was needed. More importantly, how does 2 player mode work? Is the 2 joycons enough or does each player need a set of joycons? Do both players share the same digital library or is there a catch?

2 player mode is possible in TV and table top mode. I tried it with two different joy-Con sets, I didn't even think to try it with only one joy-con each.

Both players share the same library that is on the selected save file.

The way selecting/switching Skylanders works in 2 player mode is that when one of you wants to switch, the game makes you both select characters like at the start of a game. So both have to either pick a new character or if one of you wants to stay the same character, that person has to re-select their same character.
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#25 Posted: 17:41:02 06/03/2017
Ah cool. Thanks. I'm mainly wondering if 1 set of Joycons is enough. No one on the subreddit was able to provide a solid answer that on that.
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#26 Posted: 18:08:38 06/03/2017
The icon on the back of the case shows that you can play multiplayer with one set of Joy-Cons, but I only tried multiplayer with my friends' kid on his Joy-Cons and me on my Pro Controller.
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#27 Posted: 20:45:39 06/03/2017
Yes, 2 player is possible with 1 pair of Joy-Cons.
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#28 Posted: 21:02:17 06/03/2017
hmm. thanks for the heads up.
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#29 Posted: 08:17:55 13/03/2017
Warning to everyone with switch version, LOAD THE SWAP FORCE FIRST

i started with my imaginators set, then superchargers, traps, then swap

the swapforce figures get put automatically at the front of the list of figures and it took the spots/overwrote the imaginators I had loaded 1st then had to reload them again
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#30 Posted: 10:33:21 13/03/2017
The switch does not use traps.
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#31 Posted: 14:28:31 13/03/2017
Probably meant Trap Team.
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