darkSpyro

Friendly rivalry between two buddy developers, or do they secret wish to have Skylanders only for them? This question came to me after beating Imaginators and seeing


Does Paul Richie wish to be Desutroyah to wreak VV?


Personally, I think VV respects TfB greatly, despite some flaws regarding lore. As for TfB, I think there's a mutual respect, but to a lesser degree. Most TfB games reference other Skylander games made by TfB and barely ever a VV made one, although a copious amount of VV made NPCs appear like Based Sharpfin and some we haven't seen since Swap Force, like the Yeti Elder and Avril.. Not to mention a ton of Vv made Skylanders still have SSC's hit stun, while seemingly all TfB have been whipped clean of the sinful hitstun. VV also seems to respect all the games as well.

VV thinks they know the games but they're far from what the identity actually is. TFB reacts out of spite rather than trying to make them understand, causing VV to think they're fixing accidents and being more in the right.

Vicarious Visions
• Respects toys for bob's work by always referencing their charcerts and what happend in TFB's games.
•They respect their charcers a lot...they could of have re-imagined their own charcers in Super chargers but every charcer that was re-imagined was made by TFB expect for roller brawl...and also because most of them were recognizable.
•They connected super chargers to trap team by showing us how Kaos escaped and so on...they even refenced trap tanium by having eon locked in a traptinum prison.and in the comics they reference giants , trap masters and so on.
• They care about TFB's NPCS.
• They show respect to them by not igboring any of the things that they have created...I know that traps aren't that useful anymore but TFB probably told them that they were making Villans become fully playable characters so not much would of have changed.

TFB
• They mostly focus on their own work and don't reference much of TFB's work...the only characters that they referenced or included are fryno as repose Tessa as an NPC and roller brawl in the beginning of trap team which isn't that much they basically ignored over 30 charcerts !!! ( NPC's included )
•They showed them some great respect by letting VV work on the crash expansion pack which is cool I love it when they work togther look at imaginators for example !!!
• They always give VV credits for their work they could of have taken the credit for them selves but They decided not to....when they talked about the graphics mechanics that was used in imaginators and the crash pack.
•They only thing that I don't like is that they ignore most of VV npcs , Villans and heros like they don't matter...I really want to see what TFB can do with the charcters like mesmeralda , Kaos's mom , spell slamzer and more !!! and They haven't included any of VV skylanders as npc for this game...I think that Roller brawl , fryno , wash bucker and spit fire are popular enough. It would of have been cool if Jet-bac , pop fizz , stealth elf , eruptor and trigger happy went into their super chargers form or at least use their vechiles but non of that happened it would of have been cool though.

Overall I like both of them and they probably don't have enough time to work on a game that refences everything and support every item from previous games...and I like both of them and I hope to see them both work on one game.

when they nerf older skylanders and leave out bugs like eruptor in trap team etc. you know they are not happy with each other and sabotage to make their own creation better than the other.

The best way to describe it is that VV who really wants to impress TfB. VV definitely has talent, but can't use all of it compared to TfB. So in the attempt to impress them, VV does things they think would impress TfB, but instead ends up making them angry. TfB also doesn't know how to actually help VV, so they instead react spitefully towards them, which in turn makes VV try to do more stuff to impress them.

It's a mess, the two really just need to work together more.

They are like Real Madrid and Barcelona: same goal, different style.

In my opinion, I think both developers have a specific idea for what they want Skylanders to be. I think this can cause a disconnect between games.

TFB have the better grasp on the mysticism side of Skylanders. Their character designs have always had a bit more variety and tend to go for a more mythical feel. It seems like they also like to establish entirely new characters. TFB's characters tend to reference other characters less than VV's in their backstories. They also like to experiment with new toy types which end up getting dropped after VV tries to carry them on. (Lightcores, Eon's Elite and Series2/3/4 come to mind).

VV definitely likes to develop on the lore of Skylanders. Their game's stories tend to be a bit deeper and more adventurous. Their character backstories constantly reference other characters, and their levels tend to have a connection to previous Skylanders too (like and ). They also try to make a sense of progression. Their characters tend to be more anthropomorphic, limiting their variety (All Swappers and Superchargers are bipedal (or at least bipedal stance etc.), and most of the SF cores are too) and their games start off where the last left off whereas TFB's have twice now disregarded the end of the previous game

I don't think there's a rivalry per se. I think that TFB is more focused on their own developments and making their installments a stand alone experience, whereas VV tries to develop the worldbuilding and make the games more linear.

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The best way to describe it is that VV who really wants to impress TfB. VV definitely has talent, but can't use all of it compared to TfB. So in the attempt to impress them, VV does things they think would impress TfB, but instead ends up making them angry. TfB also doesn't know how to actually help VV, so they instead react spitefully towards them, which in turn makes VV try to do more stuff to impress them.

It's a mess, the two really just need to work together more.

I agree with you.
Personally I like VV graphics stories , and levels a lot more
But I prefer TFB bulky and tuff characters designs and how they handle combats.
It seems that vicarious visions screw hard when they want to add something new to the game to make it feel diffrent but end up make the game far from it's origins and how it should be...super chargers would of have been great if it focus on something else othere than vechiles...now that the Bala brothers are gone I wonder how diffrent their new game is going to be ( the crash level is very pleasing so I wonder if the next game is going to be similar .

Tfb and VV are hiveminds now?, pointless topic.

If we can't know every single dev, we just have to generalize. It's not pointless if people are having fun.