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What Do You Honestly Think Sky 5 Will Be About
ninja9351 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4924
#1 Posted: 18:26:44 30/12/2014 | Topic Creator
There have been a lot of threads asking about what people want in game 5. Most of which contain many completly unrealistic ideas. I'm wondering what you guys think will be in game 5. Not what you want but what you honestly think is going to be in it. Discuss.
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#2 Posted: 18:44:28 30/12/2014
No idea about the "gimmick" but hopefully it is gonna be less linear and be more like old platform games (Super Mario 64, Banjo-Kazooie, Sly Cooper) where you can use more than one path to reach an area in the level. Maybe it could even be completely open world where you don't need to complete chapters in a precise order to reach the end? That would be a great gameplay evolution.
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#3 Posted: 19:11:29 30/12/2014
Quote: newkill
No idea about the "gimmick" but hopefully it is gonna be less linear and be more like old platform games (Super Mario 64, Banjo-Kazooie, Sly Cooper) where you can use more than one path to reach an area in the level. Maybe it could even be completely open world where you don't need to complete chapters in a precise order to reach the end? That would be a great gameplay evolution.


Absolutely. Time to move forward on a number of things or I'm done. I've given them two shots at online...not only did I not get that but had functionality ripped from me. Having the main game not story based but perhaps achievement based would be great--and invites more exploration that they can bring back some of those things they did in SSA that was so special (having to use water skylanders to get somewhere...imagine it expanded to include gimmick lander's specialties). Unannounced content walls were awesome.
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#4 Posted: 19:39:46 30/12/2014
Knowing Activision, Glumshanks will probably find a time machine and go tell Past Kaos that he was trapped, so while you have the Present Kaos, the Past Kaos becomes the new Kaos. They ALWAYS have an excuse to make Kaos the main villain.
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#5 Posted: 19:55:47 30/12/2014
On-Line co-op

Random level generation

Random monster spawns


On a side note...

I pray that SEGA will make a Toe Jam & Earl game with figures like Skylanders. The Skylands remind me a lot of the original TJ & E levels.

Are you listening SEGA?(pleading with fingers crossed)

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#6 Posted: 20:31:04 30/12/2014
Anything could happen in my opinion, they could bring back pvp which would be nice but I wouldn't hold my breath for it or possibly bring back the heroic challenges I personally liked them but have seen others who disliked them and was glad they were done away. In number 5 I would like activision to allow players to upload there collection easier for people who have 160+ figures it can take some time I couldnt imagine the thought of being like the ones I seen on the forum with 200+ figures, another thing I would like to see is a new villian to fight the way I figure it since kaos and the doom raiders are trapped a new band of bad guys gotta come out of the wood works it would feel strange too battle kaos in number 5 and fight him with a trapped version of himself. I know it may sound like a rip off of infinity but a map editor would be cool I think I would love to make a custom map for my skylanders to venture into. If one thing I say is a must for skylanders 5 is online play I don't have nieces or nephews nor children it gets boring playing alone and would like to be able to play co op or battle.
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#7 Posted: 22:42:25 30/12/2014 | Topic Creator
I personally think there will be no gimmick but they will focus more on gameplay this time. Here's what I think figure wise.

2 New Giants
-1 for light
-1 for dark

4 New Swappers
-2 Light
-2 Dark

2 New Trap Masters
-1 Light
-1 Dark

30 New Cores
-3 Per Element

10 Reposes or 8
-1 Per All Elements or 1 Per All Original Elements

8 Eon's Elite
-The Giants

10 Light Cores
-5 New Characters
-5 Old Characters

20 Traps
-2 New Traps Per Elements
(All New Shapes)

20 New Villains, no Doom Raiders

58 Regular Figures in All
8 EE
20 Traps and Villains
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#8 Posted: 22:55:44 30/12/2014
Well with VV likely back in the saddle and more likely to push the technology further than "We are doing things our way or the highway" TFB, I'd say the gimmick this year will be online co-op. What I'd like to see is being able to do online for the story mode with friends, and hopefully a four player online mode (two per console since the portals aren't really big enough or have the tech to support four plus item).

Ideally they would have a large hub world where you could have people from all over running around to make it seem more bustling. No direct communication or ability to interact/hinder with others in the hub outside of friends/party members since it is a kids game. Maybe some mini games you could play/compete with others there as well. Put the arena battles back in as well, and amp those up to 4 or 8 players online.
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#9 Posted: 22:56:48 30/12/2014
I honestly think it will be about $75.00. (duck) smilie

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#10 Posted: 22:59:48 30/12/2014
Quote: TrapShadowFan
Knowing Activision, Glumshanks will probably find a time machine and go tell Past Kaos that he was trapped, so while you have the Present Kaos, the Past Kaos becomes the new Kaos. They ALWAYS have an excuse to make Kaos the main villain.

Brillant another Kaos game!
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#11 Posted: 23:06:51 30/12/2014
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#12 Posted: 00:33:19 31/12/2014
I feel the Wii version is keeping the games from getting online co-op due to how needlessly complicated it is to set up online for that system. As long as they keep making the Wii version they won't be adding online co-op to "keep things fair" between consoles.
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#13 Posted: 00:58:43 31/12/2014
I think they should really explore the storyline possibilities presented by having the Academy. Couldn't you see like a new class of Skylander hopefuls going on missions and earning badges/bounties (a la Mystery Dungeon)?Or maybe thy have to explore an newly discovered ruin where they learn more about their elements?

Just a thought.

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#14 Posted: 01:00:53 31/12/2014
Hopefully they'll have more levels but more levels=cost more
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#15 Posted: 01:26:53 31/12/2014
That seems just about right, Although I think they may cut back on some of the less important things, like the minis and may give us more of the Light and Dark. I think the minis were more of a gimmick, anyway.
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#16 Posted: 02:00:30 31/12/2014
I think since Activision knows exactly what we want, They are gonna tell VV to make a game ALL ABOUT GILL GRUNT! Isn't it obvious? smilie
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#17 Posted: 02:10:01 31/12/2014
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#18 Posted: 02:23:56 31/12/2014
I really hope they bring back PVP and add online play.
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#19 Posted: 02:40:48 31/12/2014
I personally think they will just make another gimmick. My best guess on what it would be is physical items you can equip on the new Skylanders. It will work with the same technology Swap Force had. Magnet pieces like armor and weapons can be snapped onto the new special Skylanders. The best name idea for it I can think of to match it would be Battle Masters.
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#20 Posted: 02:45:44 31/12/2014
1 word


PVP!!!!!!!!!
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#21 Posted: 02:47:50 31/12/2014
Quote: ninja9351
I personally think there will be no gimmick but they will focus more on gameplay this time. Here's what I think figure wise.

2 New Giants
-1 for light
-1 for dark

4 New Swappers
-2 Light
-2 Dark

2 New Trap Masters
-1 Light
-1 Dark

30 New Cores
-3 Per Element

10 Reposes or 8
-1 Per All Elements or 1 Per All Original Elements

8 Eon's Elite
-The Giants

10 Light Cores
-5 New Characters
-5 Old Characters

20 Traps
-2 New Traps Per Elements
(All New Shapes)

20 New Villains, no Doom Raiders

58 Regular Figures in All
8 EE
20 Traps and Villains



If 80% of what you think will be in the game actually is in the game I personally will not be buying the game.
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#22 Posted: 03:47:17 31/12/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: kaosmumishot
Quote: ninja9351
I personally think there will be no gimmick but they will focus more on gameplay this time. Here's what I think figure wise.

2 New Giants
-1 for light
-1 for dark

4 New Swappers
-2 Light
-2 Dark

2 New Trap Masters
-1 Light
-1 Dark

30 New Cores
-3 Per Element

10 Reposes or 8
-1 Per All Elements or 1 Per All Original Elements

8 Eon's Elite
-The Giants

10 Light Cores
-5 New Characters
-5 Old Characters

20 Traps
-2 New Traps Per Elements
(All New Shapes)

20 New Villains, no Doom Raiders

58 Regular Figures in All
8 EE
20 Traps and Villains



If 80% of what you think will be in the game actually is in the game I personally will not be buying the game.



Technically that's not what I think will be in it. That's what I think the toys are going to be. I could foresee Online Battle with Skystones and PvP, but that's it for Online. This is because I heard that this time was the last time for the Wii. I unfortunately don't see 4 players as an option right now. I'm pretty sure that they have now realized that we want many short levels and not a few long levels so I would expect 20-24 SSA length levels. As far as a villain is concerned I see Glumshanks being viable, but I also see other villains. Bear with me here.

Let's think for a second. Light and Dark. Complete opposites, much like everything else is in Skylands so what if Light and Dark are the foundations of Skylands and compose everything. So that means
Life, Fire, Tech, and Air = Light
Undead, Water, Magic, and Earth = Dark

This is interesting isn't it, but wait there's more!

In many fictional universes there is a creator deity so maybe there are created deity's of Skylands.
For example in the Hobbit/Lord of The Rings world there is a creator deity named Eru Illuvitar. So maybe Skylands has a Light and Dark "deity".

My theory is backed up because Nightshade says in his boss fight "If it were up to me Skylander I would let you go but the greater forces of darkness would never allow it." The ultimate question is who is it. Nightshade is considered a Doom Raider, so this must be a very powerful force of darkness to be greater than a Doom Raider. Ie. Evil creator deity.

Also worth noting that Kaos is also a Doom Raider so there is a chance that this greater force is more powerful than Kaos. Yeah, now I've got your attention.

So in conclusion to my statement I think that we could see a very powerful new main villain in Sky 5.
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#23 Posted: 04:23:31 31/12/2014
It also mentions light and dark in ssa scroll Elder elements stating

"Today there are dozens of brave skylanders and in the past, hundreds more. But the most powerful of all skylanders were the elder elementals. These giants possessed powers of light and darkness within there flesh. No one has seen an elder elemental in centuries, but there are rumors that they will return someday."

If the text provided rings true hopefully light and dark giants are released for number 5 and as stated above a more diverse universe creating story will unfold as stated by kaosmumishot and his quote by ninja 9351
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#24 Posted: 04:35:26 31/12/2014
Quote: ninja9351


Technically that's not what I think will be in it. That's what I think the toys are going to be. I could foresee Online Battle with Skystones and PvP, but that's it for Online. This is because I heard that this time was the last time for the Wii. I unfortunately don't see 4 players as an option right now. I'm pretty sure that they have now realized that we want many short levels and not a few long levels so I would expect 20-24 SSA length levels. As far as a villain is concerned I see Glumshanks being viable, but I also see other villains. Bear with me here.

Let's think for a second. Light and Dark. Complete opposites, much like everything else is in Skylands so what if Light and Dark are the foundations of Skylands and compose everything. So that means
Life, Fire, Tech, and Air = Light
Undead, Water, Magic, and Earth = Dark

This is interesting isn't it, but wait there's more!

In many fictional universes there is a creator deity so maybe there are created deity's of Skylands.
For example in the Hobbit/Lord of The Rings world there is a creator deity named Eru Illuvitar. So maybe Skylands has a Light and Dark "deity".

My theory is backed up because Nightshade says in his boss fight "If it were up to me Skylander I would let you go but the greater forces of darkness would never allow it." The ultimate question is who is it. Nightshade is considered a Doom Raider, so this must be a very powerful force of darkness to be greater than a Doom Raider. Ie. Evil creator deity.

Also worth noting that Kaos is also a Doom Raider so there is a chance that this greater force is more powerful than Kaos. Yeah, now I've got your attention.

So in conclusion to my statement I think that we could see a very powerful new main villain in Sky 5.


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#25 Posted: 04:46:31 31/12/2014
Quote: Czar Mania
Anything could happen in my opinion, they could bring back pvp which would be nice but I wouldn't hold my breath for it or possibly bring back the heroic challenges I personally liked them but have seen others who disliked them and was glad they were done away. In number 5 I would like activision to allow players to upload there collection easier for people who have 160+ figures it can take some time I couldnt imagine the thought of being like the ones I seen on the forum with 200+ figures.


The ability to upload and have a cloud based storage system of your skylanders collection makes it easier for consumer AND support, should you need to return one for defect reasons. My problem now is that Activision seems to NOT have staying power for any of their programs. Universe disappeared after a couple of years, and the Collection Vault is utter crap this year, both in terms of storage, sluggish performance and major characters still not in inventory. I'm not even counting the "unable to add certain characters via codes" problem from last year, which of course was never fixed. Having the ability to upload your inventory to the cloud and have Collection Vault access it would be sheer genius. Having that inventory be able to interact with their mobile games and/or Lost Islands is getting to a point where it's required.

Quote: defpally
Well with VV likely back in the saddle and more likely to push the technology further than "We are doing things our way or the highway" TFB, I'd say the gimmick this year will be online co-op. What I'd like to see is being able to do online for the story mode with friends, and hopefully a four player online mode (two per console since the portals aren't really big enough or have the tech to support four plus item).

Ideally they would have a large hub world where you could have people from all over running around to make it seem more bustling. No direct communication or ability to interact/hinder with others in the hub outside of friends/party members since it is a kids game. Maybe some mini games you could play/compete with others there as well. Put the arena battles back in as well, and amp those up to 4 or 8 players online.


If they don't get anything else right, I hope they get this one. They'll hook me for sure just with this feature.
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#26 Posted: 05:33:36 31/12/2014
Guys, a light and a dark Giant wouldn't make sense at all. Neither would light and dark Swappers. They are NEW elements brought about by the destruction of the prison. The giants, swap force, core of light, it's all BEFORE the light and dark el mentioned existed. They mention the power of light and dark as a force of power if you will, not the elements. That'd be like saying the giants all had 3 elements each, light, dark, and whatever actual element they are.

As for on topic of what I think will be in the next game, I honestly can't say. We can anticipate a new gimmick. As mentioned else where though, I could see the possibility of a portal owners pack being a thing again, which would be really nice. And I think we can all agree that we'd like a new villain instead of Kaos. He's trapped, so it's a perfect segue into someone else trying to take over Skylands. But, know this series so far, he will escape somehow. Who knows. I just know I'm excited to see what's next, which we will probably learn between February and April.
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#27 Posted: 06:09:03 31/12/2014
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I just know I'm excited to see what's next, which we will probably learn between February and April.


I know some of you guys played this game back in October and may now be "old" news, but some folks like me didn't start playing until Dec 25th, and by my counts there's still over 20 characters yet to track, not counting traps and other stuff. The wait between games is long enough, I'd like to suspend next game talk and conclude TT first. I guess you could argue you've already done that, and we're simply waiting for the Skylander late comers to join the adventure we've already finished and three-stared, but I guess that's beside the point.

Or maybe the point.

Concentrate on eating enchiladas.
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#28 Posted: 06:48:26 31/12/2014
^ mmmmmm, they are delicious!
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#29 Posted: 08:38:01 31/12/2014
Be best open world like someone said so you can free realm fly with flying characters like dawn of the dragon
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#30 Posted: 12:08:11 31/12/2014
they better have online gameplay with others!
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#31 Posted: 13:00:37 31/12/2014
Quote: defpally
Well with VV likely back in the saddle and more likely to push the technology further than "We are doing things our way or the highway" TFB, I'd say the gimmick this year will be online co-op. What I'd like to see is being able to do online for the story mode with friends, and hopefully a four player online mode (two per console since the portals aren't really big enough or have the tech to support four plus item).

Ideally they would have a large hub world where you could have people from all over running around to make it seem more bustling. No direct communication or ability to interact/hinder with others in the hub outside of friends/party members since it is a kids game. Maybe some mini games you could play/compete with others there as well. Put the arena battles back in as well, and amp those up to 4 or 8 players online.


Online functionalities would be GREAT, and would add a ton of replayability (even if I think the series actually doesn't need it), but It would surely be an awesome feature.
I actually think it would be more like a "bonus improvement", rather than a gimmick.

For example, Giants added a voice actor for each Skylander, SWAP Force added jump, and Trap Team attacks while jumping. All features that have been kept with future titles.
I think online would be treated that way.

However, I still find it fascinating that a lot of people here complained about needing a bit of Internet connection, this year, to download the D1 patch, and yet is still asking for online functionalities of all kinds.

Quote: Echo2VX
I personally think they will just make another gimmick. My best guess on what it would be is physical items you can equip on the new Skylanders. It will work with the same technology Swap Force had. Magnet pieces like armor and weapons can be snapped onto the new special Skylanders. The best name idea for it I can think of to match it would be Battle Masters.


Nothing personal, but I'm absolutely against this idea.

It would take away A LOT of the characters' uniqueness, having multiple Skylanders wielding the same weapon, and it would also restrict the creativity for them once again.

Say you had a simple sword, as a weapon.
You would need each character to have some sort of hands, tentacles or even claws, to use it.

What if I wanted a purely quadruped?
No, no no.
SWAP Force's Skylanders shown us how a single gimmick can restrict the fantasy and creativity for the characters related to it (design-wise).
Same goes for most of the Trap Masters, even if in a minor way.

Let's try not to repeat this "mistake" again.
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#32 Posted: 14:20:00 31/12/2014
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#33 Posted: 15:54:36 31/12/2014
Whatever the idea is, I think it must meet the following criteria.

- Allow activision to sell $15 figures, which means there has to be a gimmick as "More of the same!" doesn't make a good pitch line. As well, the gimmick needs to essentially be required to play the game.
- Allow to sell $5 add on items, like the traps did this year. I imagine they saw this is profitable for DI (with power disks) and saw it themselves with traps. I just don't think they are going to do away with this easy money.
- Doesn't anger old customers to the point where they'd want to drop the series.

If it isn't going to bring in maximum profits, it won't be done. That's why I don't think having a map editor or online play is going to be a big part of the next game. Where's the profit? It will make existing customers happy, but that really isn't the goal.

One idea I have is to somewhat copy DI's power disks, call it "Ring Masters" or something. You take a core sized figure, but add slots to add 3 or 4 rings (about the size of a power disk) underneath it. Adding rings to the base of a figure would add special abilities to the figure, making him somewhat unique. 1 ring slot could be for the color of your lander, switching his/her color in game (perhaps make the figure color switching lightcore to match). 1 ring slot could be for a special attack, like a fireball, ice blast, etc. The third slot could be for extra speed, strength, armor, health, etc. Maybe there are 2 slots for each type. This way you're essentially customizing your own skylander to fit your playing style.

As added feature...I don't want them to use existing character favorites as the new gimmick figures. Reuse Spyro, eruptor, gill grunt, etc...but with the rings to change their powers. And the new attacks don't need to be new either. You can have eruptor''s lava barf, ghost roaster's skull thingy, dino rang's boomer rang, etc. I would think this would help keep the old players interested while still attract the new ones. I'd love to have a bash that has zap's water/electricity power.

This wouldn't be tough on developers since there the characters and attacks aren't new. Color and physical stats aren't any big deal. VV can spend more time on content and story since there is less gimmick to deal with. Story line could be that the rings were rediscovered and Eon gave them to a special group of landers (whether new or old) . They can make the elemental gates based on the element of the ring master, similar to trap team.

I see two downsides to this though. A customer may not be as encouraged to collect them all...just pick your favorite and customize him/her. Not that profitable. Second, the rings may be best sold in a blind bag. Not sure how they'd package well otherwise.
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#34 Posted: 16:05:21 31/12/2014
Quote: melvimbe
Whatever the idea is, I think it must meet the following criteria.

- Allow activision to sell $15 figures, which means there has to be a gimmick as "More of the same!" doesn't make a good pitch line. As well, the gimmick needs to essentially be required to play the game.
- Allow to sell $5 add on items, like the traps did this year. I imagine they saw this is profitable for DI (with power disks) and saw it themselves with traps. I just don't think they are going to do away with this easy money.
- Doesn't anger old customers to the point where they'd want to drop the series.

If it isn't going to bring in maximum profits, it won't be done. That's why I don't think having a map editor or online play is going to be a big part of the next game. Where's the profit? It will make existing customers happy, but that really isn't the goal.

One idea I have is to somewhat copy DI's power disks, call it "Ring Masters" or something. You take a core sized figure, but add slots to add 3 or 4 rings (about the size of a power disk) underneath it. Adding rings to the base of a figure would add special abilities to the figure, making him somewhat unique. 1 ring slot could be for the color of your lander, switching his/her color in game (perhaps make the figure color switching lightcore to match). 1 ring slot could be for a special attack, like a fireball, ice blast, etc. The third slot could be for extra speed, strength, armor, health, etc. Maybe there are 2 slots for each type. This way you're essentially customizing your own skylander to fit your playing style.

As added feature...I don't want them to use existing character favorites as the new gimmick figures. Reuse Spyro, eruptor, gill grunt, etc...but with the rings to change their powers. And the new attacks don't need to be new either. You can have eruptor''s lava barf, ghost roaster's skull thingy, dino rang's boomer rang, etc. I would think this would help keep the old players interested while still attract the new ones. I'd love to have a bash that has zap's water/electricity power.

This wouldn't be tough on developers since there the characters and attacks aren't new. Color and physical stats aren't any big deal. VV can spend more time on content and story since there is less gimmick to deal with. Story line could be that the rings were rediscovered and Eon gave them to a special group of landers (whether new or old) . They can make the elemental gates based on the element of the ring master, similar to trap team.

I see two downsides to this though. A customer may not be as encouraged to collect them all...just pick your favorite and customize him/her. Not that profitable. Second, the rings may be best sold in a blind bag. Not sure how they'd package well otherwise.



That doesn't matter man! it's gonna be skylanders goats! how many times do we have to tell you?!
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#35 Posted: 16:08:10 31/12/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: GinjaNinja
Guys, a light and a dark Giant wouldn't make sense at all. Neither would light and dark Swappers. They are NEW elements brought about by the destruction of the prison. The giants, swap force, core of light, it's all BEFORE the light and dark el mentioned existed. They mention the power of light and dark as a force of power if you will, not the elements. That'd be like saying the giants all had 3 elements each, light, dark, and whatever actual element they are.

As for on topic of what I think will be in the next game, I honestly can't say. We can anticipate a new gimmick. As mentioned else where though, I could see the possibility of a portal owners pack being a thing again, which would be really nice. And I think we can all agree that we'd like a new villain instead of Kaos. He's trapped, so it's a perfect segue into someone else trying to take over Skylands. But, know this series so far, he will escape somehow. Who knows. I just know I'm excited to see what's next, which we will probably learn between February and April.


Nope read the bios. The light and darks were here before SSA. The destruction of the core of light banished them. I think a lot of people didn't see this so I can't blame you for the confusion. So yes indeed light and dark Giants and swappers would make sence.
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Insane01 Gold Sparx Gems: 2038
#36 Posted: 16:26:43 31/12/2014
I agree on Light/Dark Giants & Swappers, but I could also see them (TFB/VV/Activision) add one more element since, in a way, it was introduced in SF......Time.
Could be an Elder elemental as as well. You had Cluck as the boss villain, along with Time Spell Punks & Clock Geargolems.
And in Déjà Vu's backstory, there's mention of the ToT. Whatever happened to it after Cluck was defeated, hmmm?
It could possibly return to wreck havoc on Skylands.
And what about The Darkness?
Remember, Spyro has harnessed its power. Could we see the next game where we have to save Spyro from the Darkness before it consumes him and become a villain that even Kaos, or his mother, be afraid of? I think that would be sweet.
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#37 Posted: 17:48:29 31/12/2014
Vehicles based on elements in an open world environment.
Racing would be a small component.
The portal would use ignition keys, similar in design to traps.
JayjeA Blue Sparx Gems: 636
#38 Posted: 18:21:36 31/12/2014
Quote: melvimbe
Whatever the idea is, I think it must meet the following criteria.

- Allow activision to sell $15 figures, which means there has to be a gimmick as "More of the same!" doesn't make a good pitch line. As well, the gimmick needs to essentially be required to play the game.
- Allow to sell $5 add on items, like the traps did this year. I imagine they saw this is profitable for DI (with power disks) and saw it themselves with traps. I just don't think they are going to do away with this easy money.
- Doesn't anger old customers to the point where they'd want to drop the series.

If it isn't going to bring in maximum profits, it won't be done. That's why I don't think having a map editor or online play is going to be a big part of the next game. Where's the profit? It will make existing customers happy, but that really isn't the goal.

One idea I have is to somewhat copy DI's power disks, call it "Ring Masters" or something. You take a core sized figure, but add slots to add 3 or 4 rings (about the size of a power disk) underneath it. Adding rings to the base of a figure would add special abilities to the figure, making him somewhat unique. 1 ring slot could be for the color of your lander, switching his/her color in game (perhaps make the figure color switching lightcore to match). 1 ring slot could be for a special attack, like a fireball, ice blast, etc. The third slot could be for extra speed, strength, armor, health, etc. Maybe there are 2 slots for each type. This way you're essentially customizing your own skylander to fit your playing style.

As added feature...I don't want them to use existing character favorites as the new gimmick figures. Reuse Spyro, eruptor, gill grunt, etc...but with the rings to change their powers. And the new attacks don't need to be new either. You can have eruptor''s lava barf, ghost roaster's skull thingy, dino rang's boomer rang, etc. I would think this would help keep the old players interested while still attract the new ones. I'd love to have a bash that has zap's water/electricity power.

This wouldn't be tough on developers since there the characters and attacks aren't new. Color and physical stats aren't any big deal. VV can spend more time on content and story since there is less gimmick to deal with. Story line could be that the rings were rediscovered and Eon gave them to a special group of landers (whether new or old) . They can make the elemental gates based on the element of the ring master, similar to trap team.

I see two downsides to this though. A customer may not be as encouraged to collect them all...just pick your favorite and customize him/her. Not that profitable. Second, the rings may be best sold in a blind bag. Not sure how they'd package well otherwise.


Or they could go the whole Final Fantasy route and use the "Blue Magic" gimmick. By that I mean, have the Skylanders learn one specific move from a villain. Or even give the trapped villains levels to increase their powers.

The best way I can see the whole Light/Dark Swappers, Giants, etc thing happening, is if they go back/forward in time and that would be a natural for new element additions to these Skylander types. Although the other ideas like the rings and snap on equipment are really good, too.
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#39 Posted: 18:32:45 31/12/2014
Quote: INTIMIDAT3R
On-Line co-op

Random level generation

Random monster spawns


On a side note...

I pray that SEGA will make a Toe Jam & Earl game with figures like Skylanders. The Skylands remind me a lot of the original TJ & E levels.

Are you listening SEGA?(pleading with fingers crossed)

The Boogeyman is STILL one of the all time great villains... boogey boogey boogey boogey



TJ and Earl is easily one of the most enjoyable games I've ever played. So good.
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#40 Posted: 19:05:00 31/12/2014
I still think they go with Online being the new feature/gimmick. VV seems to be much more willing to push the tech side of things, TfB is all about the toy side.

They really don't have to have a new type of figure, they could simply have new Giants, Swappers and Trap Masters (not reposes) - there doesn't really have to be a new category of figures - they have plenty of $15 options already. They could give us one new of each per element, as well as fill in Light/Dark some more. Yes, it would limit the amount of "required" purchases somewhat, but the option is there.
ninja9351 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4924
#41 Posted: 21:52:03 31/12/2014 | Topic Creator
Quote: defpally
I still think they go with Online being the new feature/gimmick. VV seems to be much more willing to push the tech side of things, TfB is all about the toy side.

They really don't have to have a new type of figure, they could simply have new Giants, Swappers and Trap Masters (not reposes) - there doesn't really have to be a new category of figures - they have plenty of $15 options already. They could give us one new of each per element, as well as fill in Light/Dark some more. Yes, it would limit the amount of "required" purchases somewhat, but the option is there.


I think that there could be more Swappers and Trap Masters, but I don't think more Giants (other than with Light and Dark) would truly make sence.
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GinjaNinja Gold Sparx Gems: 2604
#42 Posted: 02:17:35 01/01/2015
Quote: ninja9351
Quote: GinjaNinja
Guys, a light and a dark Giant wouldn't make sense at all. Neither would light and dark Swappers. They are NEW elements brought about by the destruction of the prison. The giants, swap force, core of light, it's all BEFORE the light and dark el mentioned existed. They mention the power of light and dark as a force of power if you will, not the elements. That'd be like saying the giants all had 3 elements each, light, dark, and whatever actual element they are.

As for on topic of what I think will be in the next game, I honestly can't say. We can anticipate a new gimmick. As mentioned else where though, I could see the possibility of a portal owners pack being a thing again, which would be really nice. And I think we can all agree that we'd like a new villain instead of Kaos. He's trapped, so it's a perfect segue into someone else trying to take over Skylands. But, know this series so far, he will escape somehow. Who knows. I just know I'm excited to see what's next, which we will probably learn between February and April.


Nope read the bios. The light and darks were here before SSA. The destruction of the core of light banished them. I think a lot of people didn't see this so I can't blame you for the confusion. So yes indeed light and dark Giants and swappers would make sence.



Which bios? Now I'm curious to read it.
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#43 Posted: 02:31:40 01/01/2015
Quote: hoardergamer
Vehicles based on elements in an open world environment.
Racing would be a small component.
The portal would use ignition keys, similar in design to traps.


Racing? We already have Mario Kart for that.

Quote: melvimbe
Whatever the idea is, I think it must meet the following criteria.

- Allow activision to sell $15 figures, which means there has to be a gimmick as "More of the same!" doesn't make a good pitch line. As well, the gimmick needs to essentially be required to play the game.
- Allow to sell $5 add on items, like the traps did this year. I imagine they saw this is profitable for DI (with power disks) and saw it themselves with traps. I just don't think they are going to do away with this easy money.
- Doesn't anger old customers to the point where they'd want to drop the series.

If it isn't going to bring in maximum profits, it won't be done. That's why I don't think having a map editor or online play is going to be a big part of the next game. Where's the profit? It will make existing customers happy, but that really isn't the goal.


I agree they will always try and maximize profits and minimize customer dissent/removal...that in the end will work to their benefit. To that end they HAVE TO give some fan service here. I didn't do it last two times, but if at least one thing from my list doesn't make it...I see no need to play the next game as it's all too similar to me to bother anymore. They are making these games on rails now using templates...time to push it IN THE GAME...not just the gimmick.
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#44 Posted: 02:55:48 01/01/2015
I really hope the fifth Skylanders game will be the last one. I don't know how much longer my wallet can take this.
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#45 Posted: 02:59:33 01/01/2015
Quote: TheShadowDragon
I really hope the fifth Skylanders game will be the last one. I don't know how much longer my wallet can take this.


I agree. They have to either go all out and burn us out asap and stop the series in the next year or two, or decide to pace themselves and allow the next generations to like this game and keep their collective jobs longer.
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#46 Posted: 03:05:50 01/01/2015
All I'm hoping for is for them to not go too overboard with the gimmick that we need ANOTHER new portal to play. Or maybe not even a new gimmick at all and just have new cores. But whatever they do, I'm crossing my fingers they have a portal owner's pack. 'Cause I want to keep using my Traptanium portal.
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#47 Posted: 03:35:51 01/01/2015
Quote: defpally
I still think they go with Online being the new feature/gimmick. VV seems to be much more willing to push the tech side of things, TfB is all about the toy side.

They really don't have to have a new type of figure, they could simply have new Giants, Swappers and Trap Masters (not reposes) - there doesn't really have to be a new category of figures - they have plenty of $15 options already. They could give us one new of each per element, as well as fill in Light/Dark some more. Yes, it would limit the amount of "required" purchases somewhat, but the option is there.


There really does have to be a gimmick. If they don't force people to pay $15 and simply allow them to open gates, complete the game etc with their existing collection I would expect their sales to drop significantly.

Quote: AdamGregory03
All I'm hoping for is for them to not go too overboard with the gimmick that we need ANOTHER new portal to play. Or maybe not even a new gimmick at all and just have new cores. But whatever they do, I'm crossing my fingers they have a portal owner's pack. 'Cause I want to keep using my Traptanium portal.


Traptanium portal has been the coolest one yet, but what's to say a new one couldn't be ever better again? I personally am happy to ditch this latest portal for a new one.
GhostRoaster Yellow Sparx Gems: 1803
#48 Posted: 03:38:06 01/01/2015
They've already conceded in interviews that they expect to sell us a portal in every game. Considering the game is $40 on Black Friday...not sure if I care or not.
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#49 Posted: 04:08:01 01/01/2015
As long as every new portal works with previous games I have no issue with it.
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#50 Posted: 04:47:20 01/01/2015
I can understand some portal masters would like the game to stop, it is a exspensive world to enter wether you choose to collect every single version of the skylanders or as I do go after one version of each core/giant/swap/trap master plus color variants like the dark editions, random colored variants like gnarly tree Rex or springtime tripper happy and eon elite. I can also understand the frustration of Basicly being forced to buy new figures to access areas of the game, in swap force it looked like they toy'd with the idea of making areas like the climbing skill and sneak skill and so on off limit unless you have a corresponding figure but you can find areas only accessible giants alone and the elemental gates alone and also added the split elemental gates which to me seemed like they catered too all portal masters at that time. In skylanders 5 it would be nice to see a lower number of new skylanders and have the game focus more on what most players have and give us a game that allows a better untilization of our older skylanders and bring back the portal owner pack option but in the end activison toys for Bob and vicarious visions will continue to repose skylanders portal masters more than likely already have.
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