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JohnnySmasher42 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3063
#26301 Posted: 21:42:53 21/02/2017
Early Boumcer looks just like Robo Kaos lol
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TheToyNerd Gold Sparx Gems: 2137
#26302 Posted: 21:51:34 21/02/2017
I want Early Bouncer to be put into Destiny.
Unreallystic Emerald Sparx Gems: 3054
#26303 Posted: 22:01:58 21/02/2017
Old bouncer is way too generic IMO.

I actually don't like the old GQ design...not for her, or for anyone period. We have enough bipedal creatures with a big sword. There are more weapons out there. There are more archetypes as well. Go all out and give her 6 arms. Make some more melee characters with different fighting styles than "generic boxer".

No string weapon users?
Not much in the "laser" department...
Nunchuks?
Feet/kicks?
Dark Matter user?
More shields?
Air melee?
Transforming?
Pets (dominant, not like a secondary)?
Gas?
Object creation?
Psychic?

there are so many more options they can look at without doing more "Big Sword" or "pole/axe"...

though as I say that, I can't help but wish there was a character like "Metal Bat" from One Punch Man...
- Unreall
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#26304 Posted: 22:23:29 21/02/2017
It's an evil robot with a cool design and two, TWO, machine guns. My inner child is happy enough to care if it's unnoriginal or not. Although I understand what you're saying and I agree with your point, but not in the hard way.
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#26305 Posted: 23:52:35 21/02/2017
We really need more characters without weapons that just use use magic or acrobatic fighting like Hex, Blastermind, Pop Thorn and Spitfire.
Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#26306 Posted: 02:00:10 22/02/2017
I'm still convinced smaller figures would be the starting point to create better and more original characters.
I have the feeling the majority of Trap Masters and Senseis are so big because they wouldn't have been as impressive if they were Core-sized (and also because they can have a higher price, of course).
Not to mention the fact I personally think it is just wrong that some of those characters are even bigger than certain Giants, toy-wise.

Let's look at the last two games who used proper Cores, which are coincidentally the ones who have what I consider the best rooster overall: designs such as Pop Thorn, Rocky Roll, Star Strike, Tread Head, Fryno and many more managed to be special and unique even by remaining small and "classic".
Which is probably why certain Gimmicklanders (for example Air Strike, Short Cut and Chopscotch) are also just as good, at least design-wise.

I agree with less weapon-wielding humanoid characters and more beasts/melee fighters/special power users.
I'd also like less antropomorphic animals and more completely invented creatures or mythological figures: Mysticat was a great addiction to the cast (even though I'm still unsure what he actually resembles, probably a manticore), and so were the aforementioned Chopscotch and Wolfgang.
Buckshot is only the second faun in the entire series, and Grave Clobber is technically the first Water stone golem ever.
Even Air Strike could be considered an entirely fictional creature, though he resembles a monkey and a character from Sonic Colors.
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#26307 Posted: 02:53:50 22/02/2017
Quote: Deja Vu
We really need more characters without weapons that just use use magic or acrobatic fighting like Hex, Blastermind, Pop Thorn and Spitfire.


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Wishblade Emerald Sparx Gems: 3262
#26308 Posted: 03:15:14 22/02/2017
I had hoped they would make a Skylanders game devoted to dragons. There is still a lot you can do there: different wing type/flying style like pounce, glide, dive-bomb, and breath attacks like ice, fire, lightning, acid, tornado, and claw attacks, and bite attacks. That would be cool to be able to order your own custom figures with colors and parts to choose from.
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#26309 Posted: 03:29:25 22/02/2017
Quote: Wishblade
I had hoped they would make a Skylanders game devoted to dragons. There is still a lot you can do there: different wing type/flying style like pounce, glide, dive-bomb, and breath attacks like ice, fire, lightning, acid, tornado, and claw attacks, and bite attacks. That would be cool to be able to order your own custom figures with colors and parts to choose from.



A dragon devoted game would not be a good idea imo. Skyanders has so much variety species wise, that a species exclusive game would come off as alienating. Variety in Skylanders in the spice of life.

I do wish we got a imaginator option to make a quadruped though, to make dragons, griffon, dogs and other four legged critters.
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#26310 Posted: 03:53:36 22/02/2017
Maybe a good gimmick could be more characters like Rocky Roll, Fright Rider, and Air Strike that work as a humanoid/animal team. You'd be able to switch the animals around.

The naming would be simple- the animals and "trainers" have separate names. The animal's name shows up with the trainer's name in the magic moment and UI.

Example- giving "Gardoom" his partner animal would show as "Gardoom & Rosebud", and giving another trainer "Rosebud" would show up as "Knight Owl & Rosebud"

Trainers would have moves 1 and 3, and animals would have 2- just like SWAP force. The animals attach to the sides of the trainer's base using a magnet.
omer1698 Gold Sparx Gems: 2258
#26311 Posted: 05:59:01 22/02/2017
i will defendliy wnat more mythical creatures based skylanders, how cool it will be to play as a kirin, manticore, siren or oni?.
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4inCreation Gold Sparx Gems: 2989
#26312 Posted: 06:47:36 22/02/2017
Quote: Wishblade
I had hoped they would make a Skylanders game devoted to dragons. There is still a lot you can do there: different wing type/flying style like pounce, glide, dive-bomb, and breath attacks like ice, fire, lightning, acid, tornado, and claw attacks, and bite attacks. That would be cool to be able to order your own custom figures with colors and parts to choose from.


This could be a sick game. With the rise of virtual reality, I think dragons are going to make a huge impact at some point. It could integrate Skylanders in a different way and give the gamer a unique point of view through a dragon's eyes. How can you not think this is amazing? Like Avatar, but a different point of view.
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#26313 Posted: 10:10:54 22/02/2017
Quote: omer1698
i will defendliy wnat more mythical creatures based skylanders, how cool it will be to play as a kirin, manticore, siren or oni?.


We got few mythical creatures such as
Dragons minotaurs trolls goblins unicorns golems Phoenix

I'd love to see a moth man related Skylander or gnome
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omer1698 Gold Sparx Gems: 2258
#26314 Posted: 10:29:35 22/02/2017
Quote: sky-dragon
Quote: omer1698
i will defendliy wnat more mythical creatures based skylanders, how cool it will be to play as a kirin, manticore, siren or oni?.


We got few mythical creatures such as
Dragons minotaurs trolls goblins unicorns golems Phoenix

I'd love to see a moth man related Skylander or gnome



What minotour and goblin? They are no skylanders from does creatures.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#26315 Posted: 10:34:16 22/02/2017
Quote: sky-dragon
Quote: omer1698
i will defendliy wnat more mythical creatures based skylanders, how cool it will be to play as a kirin, manticore, siren or oni?.


We got few mythical creatures such as
Dragons minotaurs trolls goblins unicorns golems Phoenix

I'd love to see a moth man related Skylander or gnome


The Mothman is one of my favorite cryptids, I could totally see a Magic or Dark Skylander based on him.

Thinking about it, more creatures from the global folklore would be cool: lake monsters, the Jersey Devil, the Chupacabra, ningens, more classical aliens, the Mokele Mbembe.
They could even make a game out of this concept: Kaos decides to recruit some of Earth most fearsome legendary creatures, but instead they decide to join the Skylanders to help them fight him.

This is kiiinda a stretch, but even Bowser could be considered a mythical creature: I just realized he shares some strong similarities with the Tarasque, an armored lion-faced dragon from a french tale.
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omer1698 Gold Sparx Gems: 2258
#26316 Posted: 10:37:26 22/02/2017
Quote: Drek95
Quote: sky-dragon
Quote: omer1698
i will defendliy wnat more mythical creatures based skylanders, how cool it will be to play as a kirin, manticore, siren or oni?.


We got few mythical creatures such as
Dragons minotaurs trolls goblins unicorns golems Phoenix

I'd love to see a moth man related Skylander or gnome


The Mothman is one of my favorite cryptids, I could totally see a Magic or Dark Skylander based on him.

Thinking about it, more creatures from the global folklore would be cool: lake monsters, the Jersey Devil, the Chupacabra, ningens, more classical aliens, the Mokele Mbembe.
They could even make a game out of this concept: Kaos decides to recruit some of Earth most fearsome legendary creatures, but instead they decide to join the Skylanders to help them fight him.

This is kiiinda a stretch, but even Bowser could be considered a mythical creature: I just realized he share some strong similarities with the Tarasque, an armored lion-faced dragon from a french tale.


True but its strange sanse he is a koppa and the koppa are based on the kappas, Japanese water yokais with love for cucumbers and drwoning people.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#26317 Posted: 10:49:36 22/02/2017
Quote: omer1698
Quote: Drek95
Quote: sky-dragon


We got few mythical creatures such as
Dragons minotaurs trolls goblins unicorns golems Phoenix

I'd love to see a moth man related Skylander or gnome


The Mothman is one of my favorite cryptids, I could totally see a Magic or Dark Skylander based on him.

Thinking about it, more creatures from the global folklore would be cool: lake monsters, the Jersey Devil, the Chupacabra, ningens, more classical aliens, the Mokele Mbembe.
They could even make a game out of this concept: Kaos decides to recruit some of Earth most fearsome legendary creatures, but instead they decide to join the Skylanders to help them fight him.

This is kiiinda a stretch, but even Bowser could be considered a mythical creature: I just realized he share some strong similarities with the Tarasque, an armored lion-faced dragon from a french tale.


True but its strange sanse he is a koppa and the koppa are based on the kappas, Japanese water yokais with love for cucumbers and drwoning people.


I think his case is simlar to Mysticat, albeit different: both have a rather clear inspiration for they designs but their actual species are either different or completely original.
It's just a personal theory though, I have no idea if they actually looked at the Tarasque to create him.

To answer your previous post, I don't believe there has been any trace of goblins in the franchise so far (Lob Goblin is a troll), and Head Rush could tehcnically be considered a minotaur.
A very unusual one, not unlike how Eye-Brawl is a cyclops.
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Wishblade Emerald Sparx Gems: 3262
#26318 Posted: 11:06:45 22/02/2017
Folk monsters! Awesome idea!
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#26319 Posted: 11:15:00 22/02/2017
Koopas are just turtles. Kappas are more like monster ducks with shells.

Goblins seem to be just a subspecies of Troll from what Threatpack and Lob Goblin imply, not unlike Ogres and Cyclopses.
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Deja Vu Platinum Sparx Gems: 5480
#26320 Posted: 12:29:13 22/02/2017
Quote: DreamTeam
Quote: Deja Vu
We really need more characters without weapons that just use use magic or acrobatic fighting like Hex, Blastermind, Pop Thorn and Spitfire.


5char



What is the relevance of that post?
Crash10 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4745
#26321 Posted: 12:51:29 22/02/2017
About the entire story of Bowser, I gave a small search at Mario Wiki about his inspirations:

For the character's appearance, Miyamoto drew inspiration from an anime film adaptation of the Chinese novel Journey to the West, renamed Alakazam the Great during the film's American localization. He liked the film's main antagonist Gyū-Maō (lit. "Ox Demon King," King Gruesome in the dub), so loosely based Bowser on an ox as a homage.

Yoichi Kotabe, an animation artist, later joined Nintendo and was asked to do new illustrations for the Mario series. His only reference was the package illustration for Super Mario Bros., so Kotabe asked Miyamoto many questions on how to draw the characters. However, designing Bowser caused problems, since Miyamoto hadn't drawn him often. He brought up that he liked the Ox King from the film, and this was how he imagined Bowser, but Nintendo designer Takashi Tezuka pointed out that Bowser should be a turtle. Through their discussions, Bowser's appearance gradually came together. Since he was now in the turtle family with the Koopa Troopas, they partly based Bowser's new appearance on them. Finally, the new design was created, and Miyamoto congratulated himself by saying "Wow, I can really make Bowser look cool now!"
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#26322 Posted: 17:23:50 22/02/2017
Quote: omer1698
Quote: sky-dragon
Quote: omer1698
i will defendliy wnat more mythical creatures based skylanders, how cool it will be to play as a kirin, manticore, siren or oni?.


We got few mythical creatures such as
Dragons minotaurs trolls goblins unicorns golems Phoenix

I'd love to see a moth man related Skylander or gnome



What minotour and goblin? They are no skylanders from does creatures.


Knight mare its Minotaur humans/elf half horse
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omer1698 Gold Sparx Gems: 2258
#26323 Posted: 17:29:22 22/02/2017
Quote: sky-dragon
Quote: omer1698
Quote: sky-dragon


We got few mythical creatures such as
Dragons minotaurs trolls goblins unicorns golems Phoenix

I'd love to see a moth man related Skylander or gnome



What minotour and goblin? They are no skylanders from does creatures.


Knight mare its Minotaur humans/elf half horse


Knightmare is a cenataur which its half man half horse, minotaur is half man half bull.
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McMurderpaws Yellow Sparx Gems: 1330
#26324 Posted: 18:42:57 22/02/2017
Quote: omer1698
Knightmare is a cenataur which its half man half horse, minotaur is half man half bull.

Yeah, she's a... wait...

Quote: omer1698
cenataur

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[User Posted Image]
AWWWW YEEEEEAH. THE CHAMP IS HERE!


(Edit: Typo... called Knightmare "he" by accident.)
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#26325 Posted: 19:25:36 22/02/2017
We've never saw mermaids in Skylanders but they are mentioned in Gill Grunts story. They should make a water level with mermaids npc!
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omer1698 Gold Sparx Gems: 2258
#26326 Posted: 19:26:34 22/02/2017
Quote: XSparxX
We've never saw mermaids in Skylanders but they are mentioned in Gill Grunts story. They should make a water level with mermaids npc!


they should amke mermaid skylander.
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#26327 Posted: 19:40:42 22/02/2017
There are mermaids in the books, and they're pretty cool looking.

[User Posted Image][User Posted Image]

The fact both Mask of Power and the lorebooks share a design makes me think they were planned for the games, if not multiple times(due to their release windows). Quite a shame that they can only be made as Imaginators.
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#26328 Posted: 19:42:55 22/02/2017
i hope that if there will be sky7 that they will make a mermaid skylander. even batter make gill girlfriend to a skylander, it will be really romantic and can be a graet headcanon metrial.
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#26329 Posted: 20:01:23 22/02/2017
MY FAN LEVEL BATHWATER BASIN HA MERMAIDS AND MERMEN!


But yeah I love that design for Mermaids, it's down right pretty.
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AdamGregory03 Gold Sparx Gems: 2156
#26330 Posted: 21:13:34 22/02/2017
I support the existence of mermaids in the series.
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SkyFan91 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1806
#26331 Posted: 21:16:14 22/02/2017
Yikes just saw Cadenyurk's new video talking about how lightseekers figures can be hacked by strangers.... Defiantly not buying it now
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#26332 Posted: 21:38:14 22/02/2017
Quote: SkyFan91
Yikes just saw Cadenyurk's new video talking about how lightseekers figures can be hacked by strangers.... Defiantly not buying it now



First of all, We have a topic for Lightseekers right here.

Second of all, the issue brought up in the video was very vague and didn't actually explain how this could happen. After doing a little research (because linking articles is hard hurr durr) it seems like the doll in question was one that the child speaks to. Last I checked, I can't have a conversation with Jax and Kora. While this doesn't mean that the Lightseekers figures are immune from hacking, but it's a slightly different technology.

Finally, these haven't even come out yet! Give them a chance to screw up before writing them off completely. They have a forum, they have a Twitter. You can bring up these concerns like a normal consumer and I assure you that they will respond.
Insane01 Gold Sparx Gems: 2038
#26333 Posted: 22:21:51 22/02/2017
The Easter variants are almost here, but I wonder they're doing two, or is the Easter Tae Kwan Crow actually being released. There are other Sensei, besides Air Strike and Flareewolf, that could be better.
Still bummed about Heartbreaker Buckshot
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#26334 Posted: 22:28:08 22/02/2017
Imagine if they made us think Sky 7 was cancelled, and then suddenly out of nowhere.

ANNOUNCING SKYLANDER DIMENSIONS
NOW YOU CAN TRANSPORT YOUR SKYLANDERS INTO THE REAL WORLD WITH THE HELP OF YOUR NEW SKYCORDER


Okay, that was a joke, but still

It would be cool right?
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#26335 Posted: 22:33:43 22/02/2017
What if Skylanders 7 was going to be the greatest Skylander game of all time? Everything we have ever wanted in a game and it would have sold incredibly well, but Acti was blind?
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#26336 Posted: 05:53:50 23/02/2017
Then we feed them to the chompies
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#26337 Posted: 12:24:20 23/02/2017
So what is this Skyanders Mobile game?
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omer1698 Gold Sparx Gems: 2258
#26338 Posted: 12:25:41 23/02/2017
no one sure, all we know that it will be an RPG (finaly a skylanders RPG and its a mobile game, what a shame...).
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#26339 Posted: 12:38:02 23/02/2017
Quote: King-Pen Krazy
So what is this Skyanders Mobile game?



It's an RPG made by the company that made Summoner Wars.
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#26340 Posted: 13:20:07 23/02/2017
I'd "guess" that the insistence on using the Wii held back the tech for doing a mermaid well....walking around on fins is no beauno, so most likely there would be rotating water, swirling around them *Magic Mermaid!*...which they could finally do justice now.
-Unreall
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#26341 Posted: 14:28:18 23/02/2017
Quote: TheToyNerd
Quote: King-Pen Krazy
So what is this Skyanders Mobile game?



It's an RPG made by the company that made Summoner Wars.


Summoners War: Sky Arena, typo theirs.

not really sure if it's gramatically innacurate. To the grammar I learned though, it should be Summoners' War or Summoner Wars like you said.
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#26342 Posted: 01:10:52 24/02/2017
Quote: KingMed
Guys don't forget about imaginators 2.0 coming this October ( new charcerts and APS) Probably the Reformed Villans and characters that haven't made it to imaginators with scrapped levels.


What? Source? Link? If not, stop making things up, please.
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#26343 Posted: 01:12:11 24/02/2017
Quote: KingMed
Guys don't forget about imaginators 2.0 coming this October ( new charcerts and APS) Probably the Reformed Villans and characters that haven't made it to imaginators with scrapped levels.


And where is this coming from?
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#26344 Posted: 01:12:21 24/02/2017
Quote: KingMed
Guys don't forget about imaginators 2.0 coming this October ( new charcerts and APS) Probably the Reformed Villans and characters that haven't made it to imaginators with scrapped levels.


T-That wasn't confirmed though? We just have two Adventure Packs and the remaining figures confirmed around this year.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#26345 Posted: 01:13:09 24/02/2017
Quote: KingMed
Guys don't forget about imaginators 2.0 coming this October ( new charcerts and APS) Probably the Reformed Villans and characters that haven't made it to imaginators with scrapped levels.


There are two new Adventure Packs coming (no idea about new characters), but I believe the last one should come out before the end of April.

Is that what you meant?
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#26346 Posted: 02:08:54 24/02/2017
Quote: AdamGregory03
I support the existence of mermaids in the series.



It would be easy to make a new swashbuckler tail that looks like a mermaid tail. Maybe in a new AP.
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#26347 Posted: 02:55:38 24/02/2017
Wow, seeing how much attention KingMed got from making that comment, I wanna try it!

Skylanders Imaginators 2.0 is fully confirmed. It was announced in a Toys for Bob press conference today. The third party character who will be included is Killer Keemstar and there will be a total of 69 new charcters, each costing $4.20BLAZEIT.
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#26348 Posted: 03:00:26 24/02/2017
Yay! Tell me it's a mmorpg, please!
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#26349 Posted: 03:26:48 24/02/2017
Quote: Wishblade
Quote: AdamGregory03
I support the existence of mermaids in the series.



It would be easy to make a new swashbuckler tail that looks like a mermaid tail. Maybe in a new AP.



it exists
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#26350 Posted: 09:34:54 24/02/2017
Quote: Swap Force Fan
Wow, seeing how much attention KingMed got from making that comment, I wanna try it!

Skylanders Imaginators 2.0 is fully confirmed. It was announced in a Toys for Bob press conference today. The third party character who will be included is Killer Keemstar and there will be a total of 69 new charcters, each costing $4.20BLAZEIT.


#HypeOverdrive
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