darkSpyro

Hi all.

I need to get all my frustrations out, because i feel so ripped off as never before.

So i bought 1 of each element and my son and his friends build 1 of each, because thats what they wanted! But i cant find a way like on the APP, that you can save/replace ur skylander in the Imaginstors game. There isnt any warning that when u create a imaginator its bound to the crystal forever and ever. Its doesnt make any sence why there isnt a imaginator library of ur creations so you can save and replace them.
So now me and my wife or his other friends will have to have thier own crystal or we have to buy more to create our own.
I hope im not right, because this is a huge ripoff imo, no way to try and test the different classes, elements and skills, and then choose who suits ur playstyle.....

Now to see if i can get a refund for a game who promises imagination and lots of customisations, but there is actually none, unless u buy tons of each crystal to try every combinstion in game where it should be played and tested.
So unless there is news that this will be patched which i prolly far fetches knowning activisions greedyness, but this is limiting everything they sold the game on.

Damn im pissed.

Umm.... Master EON asks if you're sure you want to create the battleclass and there's no turning back.

From a user experience, it's a rip off, it'd be nice if you have the option to move your imaginator in and out of the Creation Crystal like the way the villains were handled in Trap team.

But you have to also understand that Activision is in it to make money so by forcing you to choose a battleclass, you're bound to that specific class and should you want more, then it's a choice you have to make effectively bringing in more sales for Activision.

That being said, it's been said many times you have ways to reset the crystals (not just the 3DS method).

It's all business at the end of the day.

Maybe this topic is of your interest:

//forum.darkspyro.net/spyro/viewposts.php?topic=133349

As for theimaginators vault, well that's another story...

Yes its all buisness. BUT this is a bad decision and will most likely hurt sales with those limitations.

Yes Eon said its bound JUST like the app, but in the app you can save tour imaginator, you cant in the game. And they released the app before the game, they give the user the infinite choice, and not in the game and thats is not ok.

Quote: NalaCin

Yes its all buisness. BUT this is a bad decision and will most likely hurt sales with those limitations.

Yes Eon said its bound JUST like the app, but in the app you can save tour imaginator, you cant in the game. And they released the app before the game, they give the user the infinite choice, and not in the game and thats is not ok.

There are only two factors that can not be altered in game, element, which is very obviously tied to the crystal, and battle class, which we knew as a community a month or two ago was a permanent choice, and which the game tells you is a permanent choice. You can access your Imaginator at any time and alter appearance, moveset, weapons, and all of that stuff. You are complaining to people that should have stopped buying the product when the three final items from a game were not released, or then again when the final figure from a game didn't see wide release. We all agree that there is reason to be upset, but we all bought the game anyway. Activision isn't losing any money over a decision that wasn't any worse than previous bad decisions.

Yup, we have tried to change their mind for well over a month, but failing that tried to make others aware. The App can't transfer back into the game for a good reason.

The only way to "save" multiple Imaginators is to either write down all selected features, either yourself or by transferring the characters to the app.

They're not defective, they flat-out state that choosing a class is a final decision. BUT, there's an exploit to reset them manually. Just open up the 3DS version of Spyro's Adventure, talk to Wendell (the portal guy that is right at the middle of the hub) and put the crystal on the 3DS portal. Then press reset on the bottom screen and put it on the Imaginators portal. It works every time, guaranteed.

Alternatively, Hugo can use the Portaltron 9000 to reset crystals in SG 3DS.

Yes...

Great....Another one of these topics. After the SSA & SG 3DS tactic was found, I feel we should all at least be happy there is SOME way to reset the CC. The games are .99 anyways.

Quote: GigaCamo

Great....Another one of these topics. After the SSA & SG 3DS tactic was found, I feel we should all at least be happy there is SOME way to reset the CC. The games are .99 anyways.

If you have a 3DS or 2DS to begin with, which aren't anywhere close to that cheap.
However, it affects everyone, since as long as one youtuber has the reset method they can record plenty of research for people who have to settle with what they've got like me(because I either buy the game or the two Wii controllers for the Giants trick)

There's pyrofers tool that can reset too.

No 3ds necessary. You simply backup before you create a crystal, after you create one, you restore your backup.

Might want to put that on the Figure Tool thread then, some people were having tons of trouble getting safe resets like that because the updated tool doesn't have that option.

Quote: mR_CaESaR

There's pyrofers tool that can reset too.

No 3ds necessary. You simply backup before you create a crystal, after you create one, you restore your backup.

Except, it's too late for that.
Quote: NalaCin

So i bought 1 of each element and my son and his friends build 1 of each

He would still have to buy new crystals to make reset backups.

Yeah i sorry for the new thread, didnt know the was known before the release.

Whats pissing me of is they release the app snd there you can spam create and even delete those created. The game however tells u : That the battleclass is bound, but nothing is mentioned anywhere that you can delete it or anything. I still think they should be gettiing a lawsuit for false commecial etc.

Yes im trippin and im far out, but getting the game and a portal and 3ds is crap expensive for our family and even more because it will never be used only for this.

Sigh, this is by far the biggest fail and a new low from activision.

There's a good reason you can't transfer app to game. They also never said they could be reset, there's no lies here other than "people like being restricted" from their interviews. You're 2 months late to that new low.

You don't need a 3ds to reset the crystals. Just pyrofers tool which works on any pc

The app never said you could swap out Imaginators, and Eon literally states:

"Picking a Battle Class is a final decision."

Another parent who doesn't do their homework before buying something...

Does it suck you can't change class, yes it does but it literally says so when you chose.

The app tells you it can receive imaginators and NOT transfer them. Plus come on, it's a free app....

Should these features been implemented? Heck no! However , they have been and Activision made dang sure to state this. So to say they need to be sued for false advertisement is ridiculous as they made dang sure to cover them selves. Activision is greedy not stupid (even tho they make questionable decisions).

This is why you should always do your research. Activision pulls crap like this in every game. It sucks, but we unfortunately have to live with it.

Quote: mR_CaESaR

You don't need a 3ds to reset the crystals. Just pyrofers tool which works on any pc

But that only works if you have a blank crystal, save it using the tool, then restore it to that version later on. Guess my Light CC will stay a Sentinel and my Fire CC will stay a Swashbuckler. At least until I can get Giants for the Wii...

Quote: jesse217

Another parent who doesn't do their homework before buying something...

Stop it. The creator app's purpose goes contrary to the in-game app, and I can see everyone get easily frustrated/feeling like they were misled. Does everyone think this is going to help sales? Maybe, but at a cost of turning more sour on the franchise...which at my last count I didn't think they had a lot of wriggle room since SC sold 50% less than its predecessor (easily).

I can very easily put the shoe on the other foot and see where this decision will leave them, but we all saw this months ago. Time to see what it sows I guess. The smart consumers will feel alienated, I can also see less educated consumers just "listen to Johnny" and go out and buy more plastic b/c they can't be bothered with understanding the model. This game is clearly assuming consumers are not educated and will do what the kids tell them to do.

Quote: NalaCin

I still think they should be gettiing a lawsuit for false commecial etc.

What false advertising? They never said you could fully reset crystals as you wish...

Man, I'm tired of people making assumptions and expecting too much out of this franchise, then complaining again and again...

^Unfortunately, that's exactly how it goes nowdays with the mobile market taking over. Better spend those 10 bucks quick to get back to what you're doing, instead of you know, trying to understand WHAT your kid wants, what's the point of spending money, and how can you spend as little as possible while still letting them have fun. Not directing this to you, NalaCin, just on what Lemons is saying.
I still remember waiting until I was ~16 to get my first NeoCash card for Neopets. Parents asked me what was the purpose of the IRL money in that game, I sheepishly(?) said 'cooler clothes' and the reponse was a clear 'yeah no'. I'm definately thankful I got that no(and many others) because later on I knew I had to be 100% sure of what I wanted and that looking up guides on what's useful to buy and whatnot were a must.

But I'm rambling. Always look at a FAQ if anything looks odd about a game, and looking at the Skylander Creator app FAQ definately has a clear but fishy 'no, you can't transfer your character to the game, you must order a figure/card for that'.

I'm all for complaining about this, but the fact they are stating this is false advertisement is just ridiculous, if they just took 5 minutes to google they would know what they are getting into.

This is what made people go against videogames in the first place, parents would not take 2 minutes to research a game before buying it and would complain and blame video game companies for it being violent, didn't matter if it had an M rating.

People have to stop pouting blame on others for their own lack of research and knowledge.

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Quote: mR_CaESaR

You don't need a 3ds to reset the crystals. Just pyrofers tool which works on any pc

But that only works if you have a blank crystal, save it using the tool, then restore it to that version later on. Guess my Light CC will stay a Sentinel and my Fire CC will stay a Swashbuckler. At least until I can get Giants for the Wii...

No.

Put your crystal on the portal, let it read, go to fix crc, then write.

When you put your crystal on the portal in game you will be asked if you want to fix it, once fixed, you'll go to the battleclass selection screen

Quote: mR_CaESaR

Put your crystal on the portal, let it read, go to fix crc, then write.

When you put your crystal on the portal in game you will be asked if you want to fix it, once fixed, you'll go to the battleclass selection screen

This method doesn't work for me (PS4 version of Imaginators).

1. I created a character, then placed the creation crystal on the portal attached to my PC.
   


2. I clicked Developer - Fix CRC. The bottom left corner said 'Data is encrypted'.
   


3. I then went to Portal - Write Figure. The bottom left corner said 'Writing', then 'Write OK'.
   


4. When I place the crystal back on my PS4 portal, my created Imaginator is still there.
   

Have you tried using an older portal instead? Dunno how it changes anything, but you never know.

Quote: Bifrost

Have you tried using an older portal instead? Dunno how it changes anything, but you never know.

Good idea. I had my Trap Team portal plugged into my PC (with my old Swap Force portal connected to the PS4).

I've tried three different portals connected to my PC (Swap Force, Trap Team and Imaginators). The Fix CRC technique doesn't reset the crystal on any of them.

I guess I'll still be using the 'restore backed-up data from empty crystal' method for now. =)

Quote: jesse217

I'm all for complaining about this, but the fact they are stating this is false advertisement is just ridiculous, if they just took 5 minutes to google they would know what they are getting into.

This is what made people go against videogames in the first place, parents would not take 2 minutes to research a game before buying it and would complain and blame video game companies for it being violent, didn't matter if it had an M rating.

People have to stop pouting blame on others for their own lack of research and knowledge.

Yes, ... no Those who informed themself know it all a massive cash grab. But gullible parent...
plus the info is not that obvious.. [this move will be permenent] message is a bit subtil and you only get it when you place the crystal on the portal...
Some body type are locked to some battle classe again this info... you will only find it on forum....
The info do exist but it scarce.. activision is not very obvious about it....

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Quote: mR_CaESaR

Put your crystal on the portal, let it read, go to fix crc, then write.

When you put your crystal on the portal in game you will be asked if you want to fix it, once fixed, you'll go to the battleclass selection screen

This method doesn't work for me (PS4 version of Imaginators).

1. I created a character, then placed the creation crystal on the portal attached to my PC.
   


2. I clicked Developer - Fix CRC. The bottom left corner said 'Data is encrypted'.
   


3. I then went to Portal - Write Figure. The bottom left corner said 'Writing', then 'Write OK'.
   


4. When I place the crystal back on my PS4 portal, my created Imaginator is still there.
   

I'm on ps4 and I've been doing this for a while now.

Do you have the correct version of the tool?

Do you have the example.key in the base directory and dump directory?

Honestly I didn't understand what was about the ninja class until I did one on the creator app.... neither the washbuckler one

Quote: mR_CaESaR

I'm on ps4 and I've been doing this for a while now.

Do you have the correct version of the tool?

Do you have the example.key in the base directory and dump directory?

I'm using version 3.0; I don't know if that's the latest version or not. (It was linked in post 111 on //forum.darkspyro.net/spyro/vi...c=133349&page=3 )

I don't seem to have a file called example.key, though the readme file refers to one. What is a keyfile and how do I make / obtain one?