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A Skylanders Imaginators Rant (Creation Crystals unresettable, no PvP, etc!)
Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#51 Posted: 21:24:54 02/10/2016
Probably could have worded myself better, but I was actually replying to TotalEclipse's post.

Never thought Kaos would have been exclusive to pre-orders, it wouldn't simply make sense.
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GigaCamo Emerald Sparx Gems: 4288
#52 Posted: 23:26:12 02/10/2016
He was given a price a while ago. He could be free to preorders while others will have to pay for him.
McMurderpaws Yellow Sparx Gems: 1330
#53 Posted: 04:18:30 03/10/2016
We now have confirmation that the Mystery Chests don't contain exclusive parts -- they're just a way to unlock things faster (aka. "lazy tax").

http://www.monamiibo.com/eb-ex...rs-imaginators/

Quote:
In addition to the in-game unlocks, you can buy physical blind bags that contain either a Bronze, Silver or Gold chest inside. These physical toys give you a chest full of 9 random parts, the rarity of the parts is determined by the quality of the chest. People had a few questions about how these worked, so hopefully I can clarify a few of these concerns. The good news is that these physical chests don’t unlock anything you can’t earn through normal gameplay – there’s no exclusive parts, they’re merely a timesaver if you don’t want to go hunting for chests in the game. The not so good news, is that these chests are one-time use – pop it on the portal and redeem it, and that’s it. You can’t re-open it later in the game and you can’t give it to a friend to redeem on their save file. It’s pretty much a microtransaction boost given a physical form. Not really sure what they’re thinking with these since most people won’t want the physical chests taking up space, and collectors wouldn’t need more than one of each chest.
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#54 Posted: 05:36:15 03/10/2016
so blind bags AND one time use? wow, f you too Activision....
newkill Emerald Sparx Gems: 3988
#55 Posted: 06:20:52 03/10/2016
We get the confirmation that no parts are exclusive to the Mystery Chests which is a good thing and you say "f you"? You expected to be able to buy 1 chest and farm parts? Ok...
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ChillStealthElf Yellow Sparx Gems: 1864
#56 Posted: 08:02:51 03/10/2016
Quote: newkill
We get the confirmation that no parts are exclusive to the Mystery Chests which is a good thing and you say "f you"? You expected to be able to buy 1 chest and farm parts? Ok...



the "f you" was about the fact they can only be used once ( IE, not because I expected to exploit them to farm parts but because they literally can only be used once and then they're just a chest on your shelf with no purpose ), combined with the fact you're buying them BLIND. As a collector I'd like one of each chest, but what if it takes 10 purchases to get a single silver chest? I was also honestly hoping they'd work like the Hidden Treasure/Platinum Treasure and simply add an extra chest in a random spot in each level
Bifrost Prismatic Sparx Gems: 10370
#57 Posted: 11:09:04 03/10/2016
To be fair, the collection aspect solves itself. Only really impatient kids will drop their savings on this or ask their parents to get one once in a while - this will be the first thing going on sale.

Though one use is stupid. They really forgot that the point of physical DLC is so the fun lasts as long as the toy. As I said on GD though, those will be shelf warmers harder than Grave Clobber, since you can just get those parts ingame in the time it takes to drive to the store if it's not on your neighborhood.
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Nightmoon Yellow Sparx Gems: 1760
#58 Posted: 11:34:41 03/10/2016
Once someone gets their Dark Edition, it would be nice if they could test it. Redeem it on your main save (so that you are guaranteed to get them where you want them), then go over to a different account on your console (or make a temporary guest account) and try adding it there.

I originally wanted to try getting 1 of each, but if they're really this restricted, I'm boycotting them harder than Crystals. (Might still get a single one for testing purposes. Such as checking if it can be registered through the bag.)
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#59 Posted: 17:03:09 03/10/2016 | Topic Creator
Quote: McMurderpaws
We now have confirmation that the Mystery Chests don't contain exclusive parts -- they're just a way to unlock things faster (aka. "lazy tax").

http://www.monamiibo.com/eb-ex...rs-imaginators/

Quote:
In addition to the in-game unlocks, you can buy physical blind bags that contain either a Bronze, Silver or Gold chest inside. These physical toys give you a chest full of 9 random parts, the rarity of the parts is determined by the quality of the chest. People had a few questions about how these worked, so hopefully I can clarify a few of these concerns. The good news is that these physical chests don’t unlock anything you can’t earn through normal gameplay – there’s no exclusive parts, they’re merely a timesaver if you don’t want to go hunting for chests in the game. The not so good news, is that these chests are one-time use – pop it on the portal and redeem it, and that’s it. You can’t re-open it later in the game and you can’t give it to a friend to redeem on their save file. It’s pretty much a microtransaction boost given a physical form. Not really sure what they’re thinking with these since most people won’t want the physical chests taking up space, and collectors wouldn’t need more than one of each chest.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

*stops complaining about the chest issue*
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Bionichute Yellow Sparx Gems: 1889
#60 Posted: 17:09:01 03/10/2016
Yeah, this is a really, really dumb move.

Again, told you guys so.
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#61 Posted: 17:44:33 03/10/2016
Quote: McMurderpaws
We now have confirmation that the Mystery Chests don't contain exclusive parts -- they're just a way to unlock things faster (aka. "lazy tax").

http://www.monamiibo.com/eb-ex...rs-imaginators/

Quote:
In addition to the in-game unlocks, you can buy physical blind bags that contain either a Bronze, Silver or Gold chest inside. These physical toys give you a chest full of 9 random parts, the rarity of the parts is determined by the quality of the chest. People had a few questions about how these worked, so hopefully I can clarify a few of these concerns. The good news is that these physical chests don’t unlock anything you can’t earn through normal gameplay – there’s no exclusive parts, they’re merely a timesaver if you don’t want to go hunting for chests in the game. The not so good news, is that these chests are one-time use – pop it on the portal and redeem it, and that’s it. You can’t re-open it later in the game and you can’t give it to a friend to redeem on their save file. It’s pretty much a microtransaction boost given a physical form. Not really sure what they’re thinking with these since most people won’t want the physical chests taking up space, and collectors wouldn’t need more than one of each chest.



How many Chests can you get per level, anyway? I'm pretty sure you could get 9 parts just by completing a level two or three times, and you don't need to pay money to repeat a level.
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#62 Posted: 18:16:56 03/10/2016
You can get more than 9 parts just by playing a level, easily.
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AmbushFan Blue Sparx Gems: 919
#63 Posted: 18:19:37 03/10/2016
Really? I thought there were only four or five chests per level, although I haven't been paying much attention to Chest locations.

But if you can get more than nine per level, then Mystery Chests are even more pointless. Don't they cost only a little less than Traps?
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Bionichute Yellow Sparx Gems: 1889
#64 Posted: 18:30:08 03/10/2016
Chests seem to appear after you do basically anything, getting 9 parts in about 15-30 minutes seems amazingly easy.
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Bifrost Prismatic Sparx Gems: 10370
#65 Posted: 18:49:13 03/10/2016
Even if you want to spend money to sped up, though, you can also just buy chests ingame. No need to go to a store and iirc they even have more stuff as Platinum Chests aren't in blind bags as far as we know.
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budkin Yellow Sparx Gems: 1234
#66 Posted: 05:51:46 04/10/2016
It's going to be glorious seeing the amount of pissed off parents returning the crystals because their kids had no idea it was a permanent choice. Looking forward to the stammering, yammering response from Activision/TFB talking about how they didn't want "a sea of options."
ChillStealthElf Yellow Sparx Gems: 1864
#67 Posted: 06:39:50 04/10/2016
Quote: budkin
It's going to be glorious seeing the amount of pissed off parents returning the crystals because their kids had no idea it was a permanent choice. Looking forward to the stammering, yammering response from Activision/TFB talking about how they didn't want "a sea of options."



this....the whole "more options would make it less fun" angle they're bs-ing us with is not gonna fly
Bifrost Prismatic Sparx Gems: 10370
#68 Posted: 08:48:29 04/10/2016
That would fly with the Ninja and Swashbuckler restrictions, but there's a big difference between "rethink how you add parts" and "pay for mistakes".
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Wishblade Emerald Sparx Gems: 3262
#69 Posted: 09:30:22 04/10/2016
This is ridiculous.
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#70 Posted: 10:15:13 04/10/2016
Quote: budkin
It's going to be glorious seeing the amount of pissed off parents returning the crystals because their kids had no idea it was a permanent choice. Looking forward to the stammering, yammering response from Activision/TFB talking about how they didn't want "a sea of options."


Okay, if I can play devil's advocate here: Chances are, if a kid wanted to make their Imaginator an Undead Smasher... Then that's what they wanted to make.

I think people forget that you can still customize you're Imaginator's appearance to whatever combination of parts and gear you like in the game. But regarding the whole thing about growing bored of that character's play style... There's more than one combination of moves to give them. Even with the locked battle classes, experimentation is still an option, even if it's not as much as you'd like. Just give your Imaginators different moves until you find a combo that clicks with you. Don't think Vine Bloom works with Gunslinging It for your Life Quickshot? Then try Wool Over Your Eyes with Death Blossom, etc.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#71 Posted: 10:33:14 04/10/2016
Quote: AdamGregory03
Quote: budkin
It's going to be glorious seeing the amount of pissed off parents returning the crystals because their kids had no idea it was a permanent choice. Looking forward to the stammering, yammering response from Activision/TFB talking about how they didn't want "a sea of options."


Okay, if I can play devil's advocate here: Chances are, if a kid wanted to make their Imaginator an Undead Smasher... Then that's what they wanted to make.

I think people forget that you can still customize you're Imaginator's appearance to whatever combination of parts and gear you like in the game. But regarding the whole thing about growing bored of that character's play style... There's more than one combination of moves to give them. Even with the locked battle classes, experimentation is still an option, even if it's not as much as you'd like. Just give your Imaginators different moves until you find a combo that clicks with you. Don't think Vine Bloom works with Gunslinging It for your Life Quickshot? Then try Wool Over Your Eyes with Death Blossom, etc.


That's indeed true, but I can't believe something like this will never happen:

"Oh, my Undead Smasher is soo cool, but after seeing the elemental powers I think a Sorcerer will fit better.
Let me reset the Crystal and... Wait... WHAT?!
DAAAAAAAD!"

I personally want to be able to reset Classes because I won't know how certain elemental powers work in combination with a specific Class until I'll try it.
And it will be too late at that point.
Videos are helpful but I need to try them with mi hands.
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AdamGregory03 Gold Sparx Gems: 2156
#72 Posted: 10:36:03 04/10/2016
Quote: Drek95
I personally want to be able to reset Classes because I won't know how certain elemental powers work in combination with a specific Class until I'll try it.
And it will be too late at that point.
Videos are helpful but I need to try them with mi hands.


And, again, there is more than one Elemental Power.
Tombstone Timber might work for a Smasher and Last Laugh might work for a Brawler.
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B-BOB358 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1029
#73 Posted: 10:44:44 04/10/2016
I'm finding non resettable crystals more of an issue now because of the creator app.

The apps great coz at least now we'll be able to test out some character designs before finalising a class choice in a crystal. We still can't test class/element gameplay, but at least having an idea of character designs beforehand is something e.g. like testing out ninja and swashbuckler character designs .

(or specific stuff like ...what if I designed a character that I planned to give a flower weapon , and find out after making that crystal a "smasher" that a flower weapon isn't actually an option for Smashers)

But a problem now is that If you design a Life knight in game( on a crystal) , then decide you love it and so transfer it to the app to order a figure......you'll end up having 2 toys that are Life Knights. The CC and the ordered 3D printed figure/ character card.
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#74 Posted: 11:03:25 04/10/2016
The app also has some weird compatibility so some kids will have the same issues as before.
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Drek95 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4761
#75 Posted: 11:19:02 04/10/2016
Quote: AdamGregory03
Quote: Drek95
I personally want to be able to reset Classes because I won't know how certain elemental powers work in combination with a specific Class until I'll try it.
And it will be too late at that point.
Videos are helpful but I need to try them with mi hands.


And, again, there is more than one Elemental Power.
Tombstone Timber might work for a Smasher and Last Laugh might work for a Brawler.


Exactly.

I don't know the various powers very well, I'd like them to be surprises for when I'll get the various Crystals, but the ones I've seen could definitely work better for one Class instead of another.

And there is no way I'm going to buy a second Crystal from any Element just to try another Class out.
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AdamGregory03 Gold Sparx Gems: 2156
#76 Posted: 11:44:34 04/10/2016
Quote: Drek95
Quote: AdamGregory03
Quote: Drek95
I personally want to be able to reset Classes because I won't know how certain elemental powers work in combination with a specific Class until I'll try it.
And it will be too late at that point.
Videos are helpful but I need to try them with mi hands.


And, again, there is more than one Elemental Power.
Tombstone Timber might work for a Smasher and Last Laugh might work for a Brawler.


Exactly.

I don't know the various powers very well, I'd like them to be surprises for when I'll get the various Crystals, but the ones I've seen could definitely work better for one Class instead of another.

And there is no way I'm going to buy a second Crystal from any Element just to try another Class out.


My point is though that there are four powers, each one possibly working better for a class. And that's without taking into consideration the class-based attacks for Imaginators, therefor allowing for even more experimentation. You can still mix and match abilities, the only drawback being unable to change classes, which I'll admit sucks, but in my opinion it doesn't "ruin the gimmick".
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#77 Posted: 11:54:26 04/10/2016
Doesn't solve much if you dislike the primary/tertiaries/soul gem no matter what, though. A test drive mode would be so useful, like playing a preset Imaginator and to edit you need to confirm the class.
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