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Activision has pulled the last straw.

They lied to us saying Creation Crystals have infinite possibilities. Nope, they have very restrictive possibilities. Once you select a Battle Class, you can't change it. Period.
False advertising. Burn, Activision.

The most requested feature of ALL TIME is PvP. It has been completely abandoned, all because they couldn't take the time to balance all of the characters.
They don't listen to the fans at all. Burn, Activision.

Now there are EXCLUSIVE PARTS that you can only get by PURCHASING IMAGINITE CHESTS WITH REAL MONEY.
WHO ON EARTH WILL SPEND $6.00 FOR JUST 7 PARTS?! BURN, ACTIVISION.

Ninjas cannot have torsos. Swashbucklers cannot have legs.
I don't even need to say any more on that matter. Burn, Activision.

When was it confirmed that Mystery Chests unlocked exclusive parts?

Agree pretty much on everything though it doesn't discourage me from buying and hopefully loving this game.
However I disagree that balancing the characters for PVP would only take a "little" time. I really think that's a much bigger job then anyone really thinks. I still think it should be there just for fun.
However I'm also totally fine with them trying to do their own call of duty/battlefield game with people using their skylanders... Not going to happen but I'd buy something like that if I could.

Quote: Kat-Kun

Activision has pulled the last straw.

They lied to us saying Creation Crystals have infinite possibilities. Nope, they have very restrictive possibilities. Once you select a Battle Class, you can't change it. Period.
False advertising. Burn, Activision.

The most requested feature of ALL TIME is PvP. It has been completely abandoned, all because they couldn't take the time to balance all of the characters.
They don't listen to the fans at all. Burn, Activision.

Now there are EXCLUSIVE PARTS that you can only get by PURCHASING IMAGINITE CHESTS WITH REAL MONEY.
WHO ON EARTH WILL SPEND $6.00 FOR JUST 7 PARTS?! BURN, ACTIVISION.

Ninjas cannot have torsos. Swashbucklers cannot have legs.
I don't even need to say any more on that matter. Burn, Activision.

But all the terrible things they did balances out with the good stuff.

There are many great things about the game that should not be ignored, realize these things are not as horrible as people make them seem.

Quote: Kat-Kun

They lied to us saying Creation Crystals have infinite possibilities. Nope, they have very restrictive possibilities. Once you select a Battle Class, you can't change it. Period.
False advertising. Burn, Activision.

You still have several hundreds of parts to choose from and multiple powers, that does not feel "very restrictive" to me. Having parts that can only be equipped on a single Class would have been very restrictive, but it is not the case. What's false advertising exactly? The "infinite possibilities" part? Even if you could switch battle class, there aren't literally infinite possibilities.

Quote: Kat-Kun

The most requested feature of ALL TIME is PvP. It has been completely abandoned, all because they couldn't take the time to balance all of the characters.
They don't listen to the fans at all. Burn, Activision.

Only a vocal minority truly wants a PvP mode. I (and other people) don't care about PvP at all, it would be a mess anyway with all the Skylanders. Co-op > PvP. If it truly was the most requested feature, it would be there. The most important thing is keeping the characters from previous games playable in the newest game.

Quote: Kat-Kun

Now there are EXCLUSIVE PARTS that you can only get by PURCHASING IMAGINITE CHESTS WITH REAL MONEY.
WHO ON EARTH WILL SPEND $6.00 FOR JUST 7 PARTS?! BURN, ACTIVISION.

There is ZERO confirmation that the parts given by mystery chests are exclusive to them. Some people will purchase a few chests, especially when they go on discount to give a boost to their parts collection. I know I will.

Quote: Kat-Kun

Ninjas cannot have torsos. Swashbucklers cannot have legs.
I don't even need to say any more on that matter. Burn, Activision.

1 type of part can't be equipped on 1 specific class? Nuisance but not a big deal.

Why is everybody so negative???
Imaginators will be amazing!

Because unlike that thread you did Kat-Kun made good points, even if overly passionate.

We can love a game and hate some features, just love or just hate means you're not seeing the forest for the trees. That said, I was afraid it wouldn't be worth it and I was being too nice towards the negatives, but ShadowStorm's impressions are good and I definately want to see it for myself early this time.

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Why is everybody so negative???
Imaginators will be amazing!

Aren't you the one who made that one topic calling the game Idiotinators lmao

So I'm here, cause why not.

One thing I don't like about the game is............................

nothing


Sorry, can't think of anything to put here.

Honestly this game looks pretty good. Even the crystal problem I'm sure won't be that bad once I actually start playing the game.

My only problem is since TFB are making this game which makes me fear the fighting mechanics will be as sloppy and characters will be as OP as in Trap Team, but from what I've seen the game looks miles more polished than Trap Team so I think I'm fine.

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Quote: deadpool_98

Why is everybody so negative???
Imaginators will be amazing!

Aren't you the one who made that one topic calling the game Idiotinators lmao

I changed my mind okay?

I will never understand the obsessive begging for PVP...co-op is way more fun and much more important, and it grinds my gears that they removed the online co-op. Seriously, why do people think every freaking games needs some form of PVP multiplayer?

I do agree on the crystals a bit at least....the inability to reset, no torsos for ninjas ( which means I probably won't ever make a ninja... ), no legs for swashbucklers...when they put those restrictions on us, they lost the right to say we have "infinite possibilities". I'll dabble in the editor a bit with one of my 2 fire crystals ( getting a Crash edition & a dark edition ), but other than that I don't plan on using any other crystals until I can fully plan out what I want. Still have the awesome Senseis to play as anyway.

right now, the only issue I have with the Mystery Chests is the fact they're being sold in blind bags. They looks nice, and I would like to have one of each for my collection....but I really don't want to keep wasting $6 trying to get both a bronze & a silver

Quote: deadpool_98

Why is everybody so negative???
Imaginators will be amazing!

I agree. I'm seeing a lot more negatives than usual lately. Most are with the creation crystals. I must be the one guy who doesn't mind the class lock. Plan your characters out a head of time and wait until you get the right parts before making them.

I think we beat over that point one too many times that planning characters ahead of time =/= the gameplay being what you want. Unresettable crystals suck, end of story, unless you have 1k to waste most people won't even have the means to do research since there are no guides and some combinations won't be on youtube for a while, and even then gameplay opinions and abilities vary WILDLY between fans.

That said, everything else is looking up with the preorder leak. I can live without PVP(racing isn't enough for competitive multiplayer that's for sure) if there's enough postgame to enjoy.

Too much complaining about these Imaginite crystals!!!

Pay attention to what you're doing when you're selecting a battle class!!! It asks you to confirm your selection!! Let your children have fun with it!! Once you select a battle class you can continue to choose the pets you want you character to have an upgrade them as you find new ones!!

The treasure chests don't have or say anything about exclusive parts!!!! Alton of those pieces you can buy or win in game!!!

Don't like I, don't buy it!!

I'm super excited for this game!!! BRING IT ON!!

Doesn't matter if I pay attention. If there's no 'trial mode' or similar for classes, I won't know how it's like until it's too late. Kinda like watching all the cool tricks with Master Angler Nightfall on Youtube then picking her up and finding out that for most of the game her hitstun is ridiculous and gets her killed often - you won't know that until you pick her up and choose the hook path, but with her you can reset.

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Too much complaining about these Imaginite crystals!!!

Pay attention to what you're doing when you're selecting a battle class!!! It asks you to confirm your selection!! Let your children have fun with it!! Once you select a battle class you can continue to choose the pets you want you character to have an upgrade them as you find new ones!!

The treasure chests don't have or say anything about exclusive parts!!!! Alton of those pieces you can buy or win in game!!!

Don't like I, don't buy it!!

I'm super excited for this game!!! BRING IT ON!!

Oh, it looks like you don't understand how serious the Creation Crystal problem is.

Because of the new packaging, you can just use the Creation Crystals while they are still in the box. Because of this, people can just run to GameStop, buy all of the Creation Crystals, return home, and then lock all of the Battle Classes to Quickshot.
Then, they could return them to the store, still in their boxes, and say that they decided not to use them.
Then, the employees, being none the wiser, will put the Creation Crystals back on the shelves to be sold again.
Dozens of people will buy them, only to find that they cannot use the Battle Class that they wanted.

They dont even need to buy the crystals, most stores have the game to test.

Quote: stinkbomb29

Too much complaining about these Imaginite crystals!!!

Pay attention to what you're doing when you're selecting a battle class!!! It asks you to confirm your selection!! Let your children have fun with it!! Once you select a battle class you can continue to choose the pets you want you character to have an upgrade them as you find new ones!!

The treasure chests don't have or say anything about exclusive parts!!!! Alton of those pieces you can buy or win in game!!!

Don't like I, don't buy it!!

I'm super excited for this game!!! BRING IT ON!!

I agree.

Well, it's just alright if you'll ignore every point presenting arguments against that. It's awesome when discussion is just not happening.

I don't live in the US or other places with good displays, Akseyomiht, but considering apparently the date has come and gone for the Imaginators displays and tons of stores still don't have them, it might not be a guarantee.

I just hate how... uh... well... I really don't like that the... er... actually I think the game is nearly perfect from what I've heard.

Still, you won't know if you like that class or not till it is already too late and I picked it. Plus, what's stopping some ****ty little brother to pick the class that the other doesn't want on there? What's stopping an individual from selling a used Crystal online as new and you getting scammed out of your money. This is OBJECTIVELY a bad thing no matter how well you plan out your OCs or whatever.

Maybe I don't want to go through the hassle of planning my every creation because I want to create as I go along. We as consumers and as fans of the series have every right to complain about this stupid ass decision

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Well, it's just alright if you'll ignore every point presenting arguments against that. It's awesome when discussion is just not happening.

I don't live in the US or other places with good displays, Akseyomiht, but considering apparently the date has come and gone for the Imaginators displays and tons of stores still don't have them, it might not be a guarantee.

Where I live a much smaler contry than the states they put the full game for testing in every major retailer, stores comparable to target or walmart, this happens normaly days before xmas and stays until the next year, its not an activision decion its the store itself who does this. Buying a creation crystal looks like minefield to me.
Also just as note most retailers in Ebay and Amazon have physical stores too.

I don't actually have any problems with the game, as it is, since a lot of these problems that people have with the game don't really affect me.

1. Creation Crystals - I've planned out all my characters ahead of time, and I don't intend on changing them much after I've made them, so I'm okay whether they are resettable or not.

2. No PVP - I play Skylanders alone, so I never got to play Battle Mode with anyone. So, it doesn't really matter to me either way.

3. Chests - I only intend on buying 3/4, and I do think it's a cool idea. Having figures of the in-game chests is actually kind of cool.

4. Ninjas and Swashbucklers - Believe it or not, these limits actually give more inspiration for more creations. Before, I just had about 1 or 2 ideas for Imaginators in these classes. Now, I had 4 or 5 Ninjas planned and a few really good Swashbucklers, as well. This has also helped me come up with the concept of Hydra Jr., a three headed snake-dragon hybrid.

So this game is actually really good in my eyes, right now.

For me, the only problem is the level amount. But the level length makes up for it.

My problems are mainly the Crystals that can't be reset (man, what a stupid idea) and some limitations on character creation. Besides that, I just felt that the game needed extra development time. Yearly releases...

If PvP comes back, great. I can live without it. Maybe a full-on side game that has a big development time would be good, since they could make it full of content and maybe balance it more. Oh, and also adding online and single player vs. CPU options.

The idea of Chests being in blind bags is stupid for me, but, as long as certain parts are not locked to them, I'm okay.

Basically the only things they seemed to have botched, for me, have been there only being two Quickshots and Bazookers, and, well... basically the entire character creator.

The things that make me mad about this game are pretty much what K-K and Drawdler said along with these particular points:


Kaos is pre-order only. I personally think it is a bad idea making what seems to be the most fun to use character in the game exclusive to something not everyone even does. I think I may actually be able to pre-order it now, but that does not change the fact a lot of people are gonna be disappointed when the see the poster and look at the Kaos figure they will never have. (Unless they pay an insane price on ebay or something.)

A crap-ton of villain choices. Where do I begin?

TKC has nearly nothing to do with fire even in Imaginators.

Blaster-Tron being picked over Luminous. I can get over this, the only big gripe I have about BT is his Class. Futuristic robots don't have anything to do with swords, although they could have made it a lightsaber.

Pain-Yatta being the Magic villain. I will admit, he really was the only choice from TT, so why not try something from SC or SF or SA or Giants? TT is not the only Skylanders game with good villains. Perhaps they could have used an old Spyro villain to justify the fact they don't do anything for our favorite purple dragon anymore aside from being a storyteller and his old figures still being playable. It could have been Malefor, or even Ripto.

Grave Clobber being a Water Brawler. I honestly don't want to get started about this one. My favorite villain from TT and the character I used almost as much as Blackout. Long story short; they gave him an Element that makes no sense and an unoriginal Battle Class. King Pen already has the Water Brawler combo so it kinda makes Grave Clobber seem a bit useless. Coupled with how easily he could have switched Classes with Pain-Yatta it kinda makes me mad to see Grave Clobber using an unoriginal Element-Class combo. Water is the only Element that has two characters with the same Class. On top of that King Pen is literally in the Starter Pack! Grave Clobber has the same Element and Class as a characer you are almost guaranteed to have from the beginning!

This next one is more personal so don't take it to heart.

No truly good characters. The only ones that get a pass to this are the Lights and Darks along with the villains.

Instead of trashing every character besides the already mentioned ones I will just give you an entertaining picture of Ganondorf and Link dancing.



Positives.

I like the way they brought back the villains. While some may think of it as uncreative to reuse the villains (Ironic considering the name of this game.), I actually think it is a cool way of making the previously time-limited or in SC unplayable (outside of races) villains, who in my opinion are just as good as the Skylanders (sometimes better), playable again. Plus it is actual continuity from TT. Someone above mentioned a flaw in SC was how they brushed TT under the rug. This is the villains being remembered and making a return. While some of the choices made involving these characters were pretty bad, I still think the returning villains are a better gimmick than the Creation Crystals and are pretty much what sold the game for me. That and...

Crash Bandicoot and Dr. Neo Cortex as guest stars!!! Pure nostalgia! Pure nostalgia! Pure nostalgia! Pure nostalgia! Pure nostalgia! PURE NOSTALGIA! Also it is good to see my childhood- I mean these amazing characters make a return to games. Ever since I first got SA and saw Spyro I wanted Crash to be in this game as a Life Element Skylander. Wish granted. Plus I also got Cortex, Bonus Round! My nostalgia-driven fanboying aside, I believe Crash and Cortex will make great characters to play as in Imaginators and every game to come. (Asuming they keep backwards compatibility)

The Custom Characters. Uh... I like... the skeleton wings. Eh, that's all I got. Jokes aside, I probably will not buy any of the Crystals aside from the ones in the Adventure Packs (gotta get my extra levels and more importantly, Hood Sickle) and the starter, but its not like I won't use the ones I have. I will just have to be careful what Classes I pick.


It is up to the buyer to decide if the bad is outweighed by the good and how much to spend on the game. I personally will be getting the Wii U Starter, every adventure pack, Hood Sickle, Kaos (hopefully), Bad Juju, Blaster-Tron, the Crash & Cortex 2-pack, Starcast, Aurora, and maybe Chain Reaction. And with that I end my rant. Au revoir.

EDIT: I just figured out there is no Hood Sickle Adventure pack.

I'm not ignoring anything!!!

I think the fact that you think people would buy creation crystals just to lock the battle class, then return them is absurd!!

People started complaining once we hit Trap Team and people wanted everything their way!!

Sometimes we need to bend to the mercy of the video game not ask for insane changes.

I'm a Skylander fan to the very end and will enjoy everything non matter how that donor!!

THATS MY OPINION!!

I'm just really tied of hearing complaining of these crystals!! I guess boo-hoo to you!!

Let's all stop being so butt hurt about it!!

Never underestimate petty kids and malicious adults.

The changes aren't insane, it's literally something they HAVE on the game but locked behind devkit.

Also my butt isn't hurt, my wallet is, because I don't have 40 reais(at minimum) to spare every time I want a new gameplay combination. I'm a Skylander fan too, but I'm not blind to the fact it's flawed and that I want it to not be flawed. I'm not some negative nancy that will hate the game just because I hate this 1 thing, I just want the damn game to be its full potential of fun and banana-people fish-sword-users.

edit: I need to use more hyphens or my sentences will get garbled like that.

The only thing I don't like so far is that Creation Crystals aren't resettable. However, (spoilers):



As I said above, I'm still pissed about not being able to reset Crystals, but it's better than more Cores at least. And it looks like the game will still be great without the Crystals.

Complaining about people not respecting his opinion, immediately after tell everyone that dosent share his opinion to shut up

Hue...

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Blaster-Tron being picked over Luminous. I can get over this, the only big gripe I have about BT is his Class. Futuristic robots don't have anything to do with swords, although they could have made it a lightsaber.

Futuristic robots have nothing to do with swords? I beg to differ with this clip.

As you can see, there is a robot with sword. How dare you discriminate against Blaster-Tron?

Something something Pacific Rim and any mecha anime out there

One of them's bound to look like an old fashioned sci-fi robot and ALSO use a sword.

It's even weirder because Blaster-Tron still shoots lasers out of his sword.

Laser Swords are sick, tho.

Now I'm thinking about a Giant version of Blaster-Tron. Blaster-Tron #28.

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Quote: TotalEclipsePro

Blaster-Tron being picked over Luminous. I can get over this, the only big gripe I have about BT is his Class. Futuristic robots don't have anything to do with swords, although they could have made it a lightsaber.

Futuristic robots have nothing to do with swords? I beg to differ with this clip.

As you can see, there is a robot with sword. How dare you discriminate against Blaster-Tron?

Reveal Spoiler

In case you didn't know, this is all a joke. But why can't Blaster-Tron have a sword?

I meant it would make more sense for him to be a Bazooker and give Knight to someone who it would make more sense on like Grave Clobber or Chompy Mage. I also still think Blaster-Tron's sword should have been a lightsaber.


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It's even weirder because Blaster-Tron still shoots lasers out of his sword.

Huh, it is kinda like Final Fantasy's gunblades. I guess it just makes more sense for a robot with far more advanced technology to use something like a lightsaber or a gunblade rather than a primitive sword.

EDIT: Wait, how do we know his sword fires lasers?

In his shrine animation, he shoots a bunch of lasers.

Soul Gem and Shrine cutscene leaks. His sword also reacts to him talking which is pretty cool.

Me after watching GC's shrine approach: o_o I've changed my mind, I am getting GC.

Personally, the issue with creation crystals is my only problem with the game so far. Everything else looks fantastic and if the game was simply called "Skylanders: Master Warriors" or something, with no imaginator gimmick at all but everything else the same, I'd be perfectly satisfied. I don't care about PvP or even online co-op (local co-op is what I care about), and I've been wanting a large open world styled hub in Skylanders since forever.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still really interested in what the imaginators have to offer, but I'll only ever buy them used and only if a way to unofficially reset them is discovered.

Even though I partially agree with what Kat-Kun said, I still think it's too early to start giving up our hopes: Day One patch may solve this problem, and future patches aren't to exclude either.
Not to mention even those got the game early still haven't 100% completed it and there might be a special functionality in it they haven't uncovered yet.

Not saying it is likely to happen but I think they might change their minds when they'll finally realize how easy it is to return or sell an already occupied Crystal.
I simply can't think they'll leave it as it is or change boxes instead.

Other than that I have one single big and annoying problem with Imaginators, as of now:
it isn't out yet.
That's simply unbearable.

Also, what's with Kaos being exclusive to the pre-orders...?
They didn't made the Kaos Trap or Trophy exclusive to their respective Dark Editions, why would they loose the opportunity to sell the series' main villain's clone later next year?

^Arn't we all assuming Kaos will probably just be released later anyway? In wave 3 or something .


For me, The only thing wrong with the game atm is the crystal resets issue .

That's it. Otherwise it sounds perfect

Kaos will get his own release, several stores' websites have a specific listing just for Kaos, just like every other Sensei Villain.

He's already available on Amazon.de without having to preorder. Costs 30€ for some reason tho.

Strange. I remember reading an official quote from Activision saying something like "For those who miss the pre-order this figure will remain out of reach."