darkSpyro

at this juncture i find it reasonable to do. you already have 31 new characters to buy. buying a crystal at 10 a pop to create your horrible human looking skylanders (all the pictures i have seen on this site posted by others is in my opinion) is pointless if you ask me.

when it come down to it these, crystal creations they are gonna be useless money grabs. we are on the 6th game now and gimmick get dropped for every game, and end up more or less useless for the next game. if you like the gimmick this year more power to you, and good luck buying them all. since you cant change battle class.

but i have learned from the yawn trap episode and years of wave5. so this year i will drop the gimmick, 10 hours gameplay, ok. i just get the adventure packs and that is like another 4 hours. plus with all the newlanders to upgrade there is more than enough to do. so i will do fine without activision gimmick this year.

the more i think of the gimmick, the more i think you others should do the same. because it send a strong signal to activision. they dont need to make a useless gimmicks every year to sell their skylanders game. thats what i think, its time to focus more on the gameplay than figurines, if you as me. disney infinity is now gone and less competition. so no need to push out to many figures to the shops. they dont sell to much and dont want to take in everything, and we end up not finding what we want to buy. live and learn activision its your 6th game.....

Amazing, you made an unreadable(when it comes to lack of punctuation on black and white plus no paragraphs it is quite easy to skip lines) wall of text for something I made an entire thread for discussing.

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Amazing, you made an unreadable(when it comes to lack of punctuation on black and white plus no paragraphs it is quite easy to skip lines) wall of text for something I made an entire thread for discussing.

i edit it, is it better now?

Muuch better. Could still have posted it on the Unresettable Crystals discussion thread though, this will eventually sink while people are probably more inclined to continue an 8 page discussion.

i am not often here to posts now days, so i dont read all the posts. sorry about that but i just felt this was important to be said.

are you gonna buy any crystals this year?

i think i'll only do 1 per element and call it done. maybe a few extras of light but that's the only exception

I'll probably get one of each element depending if I like the gimmick or not.

^ ^Most likely not, I'd rather use the money on Senseis and support the now-best gimmick ever of villains turned Skylanders. If it really shows no one cares about (not) showing support though, might try for some used ones and hope they don't have battle classes on them, at least to make use of all the Imaginite I'll run into either way.

This is the sixth game! Not the fifth!

Cool.

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This is the sixth game! Not the fifth!

^this^

Wow, amazing observation there. Also, it would be 90$, not 100$.

I'm going to check out the crystals I get with the Starter pack to see if it's worth grabbing anymore, at the moment I still need to find shelf space for my superchargers.

We already know all this, just read any of the crystal related topics lol.

Everyone can buy/not what they want it wont really matter , here we dont even represent 1% of the skylanders players.


Posts like this actually make me wanna buy more crystals to annoy the people making these types of posts lol.

Considering the amount of kids that just dig themselves into anything related to their fandom, including Skylanders, we do have more attention than we think because of the videos. However, the kids still have their parents buying everything and don't really know how to value their money.

But B-BOB, spending more money because someone wants to put their foot down and finally want some response from Activision to stop going further and further with bad gimmick implementation is uncalled for, you're only harming your own savings.

lol it was more a jab at people that make unnecessary posts.

You can try to send all the messages you want to activision. But if to some people, the price of the crystals is actually worth the time and enjoyment they get out of them. Why shouldnt they buy them? Asking them not too because you dont think its worth it isnt right.

If most people end up finding they dont find CC's worth it, it'll be reflected in the profit. You dont need to rally a mass mob to do that, it'll happen anyway if CC's are truely terrible.

Before completely ignoring the Crystals, it's probably a better idea to use the one(s) in whichever Starter Pack you purchase, and then decide if buying more Crystals is worth it or not.

I don't plan to buy crystals. But I will have 3 just from them coming in the starter, Mysticat double pack, and the first adventure pack. But in all honesty I won't be surprised if I cave and buy 1 for every element. I just wish there was a purpose inside the game. But character creation is always fun to do.

^I think thats why they actually arnt that bad of a new toy. They arnt "required" theyre just there for fun and creativity.

I just really hope that we will be able to actually use the crystals in the upcoming games the way we can use them in Imaginators.
I mean look at the traps... there was nothing preventing us from using them and playing as the villains just like we were in Trap Team, yet they completely changed their purpose in SC for no real reason.
Like...I don't want to catch new villains with them but at least let me carry them over and play as them.

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40 new characters to buy

31, actually. 18 Master Senseis, 2 Guest Senseis, and 11 Villain Senseis.

I'm getting creation crystals, it's literally the whole gimmick of the game

I'm probably going to pick up one Crystal per Element, but at least three won't be direct purchases (the Fire one in the Starter Pack, the Earth one in the Gryphon Park Observatory Adventure Pack and whatever comes with Boom Bloom's Adventure Pack).

I might pick up some Combo Packs as well even if the molds aren't my favorites, as long as I don't specifically buy a Creation Crystal.

I will probably not get that invested in creation anyway, it's just a bit too full of dumb restrictions for a game based on wild imagination.

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I'm getting creation crystals, it's literally the whole gimmick of the game

Villain Senseis is the second best gimmick, its more than enough for me.


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Quote: CountMoneyBone

40 new characters to buy

31, actually. 18 Master Senseis, 2 Guest Senseis, and 11 Villain Senseis.

edit my post with 31, i guess i am not up to date on the numbers...

Count this is the sixth game, not the fifth. You edited your post a 4th time and have not corrected it yet.

Hey guys, did you know that if you don't buy the game, you save $75!

Also, if you don't buy a gaming console, you save a couple hundred dollars!!

I kind of agree. Crystals are way over priced and unlikely to work in the next game. I'll probably only buy a magic and light crystal and leave it at that (if that)

I had no idea the crystals cost that much. I keep thinking they're gonna cost as much as the traps. Despite the character customisation being the second main reason I'm hyped for this game (first being Crash Bandicoot), I think I'll only buy crystals of my favourite elements (Air, Magic, Light and Dark) and/or ones that come bundled with Senseis I want.

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Wow, amazing observation there. Also, it would be 90$, not 100$.

It's can even be less really too if your set on getting the adventure packs and buying smart.


Starter pack already has fire crystal .

And if your getting the first adventure pack already it has the earth crystal

And magic tech, undead, life, water and air are all in triple packs ( $20 x2)

The only crystals left are dark and light ( $10x2) and one of them might still be in the bloom boom adventure pack


And that's without day 1 sales prices.

Assuming you want all of the Senseis in the packs and actually live sorta close to a store that, thus, has sales.

I can say for sure that I am NOT spending a hundred bucks on crystals!

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Before completely ignoring the Crystals, it's probably a better idea to use the one(s) in whichever Starter Pack you purchase, and then decide if buying more Crystals is worth it or not.

this^...

We'll get all the crystals (SkyLanders Collectors after all), but will buy them at a sale price, here's hoping for some sweet B1G2 Free sales for SI like SSC has.

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at this juncture i find it reasonable to do. you already have 31 new characters to buy. buying a crystal at 10 a pop to create your horrible human looking skylanders (all the pictures i have seen on this site posted by others is in my opinion) is pointless if you ask me.

Pretty sure there are other heads and parts besides human ones.

I think what he really meant was bipedal looking skylanders.

And who says you would have to spend 90 (not 100, granted you get a starter pack) to complete just the 10 elements? If you waited until they went on sale I bet you could get a b1g1 or b2g1 which could possibly save you 30-50 dollars which means you would spend anywhere from 60-40 on crystals which is not terrible. I also bet you those are going to be more sought after than anything we have ever gotten in skylanders to date, which means once they get a tad hard to find the price is going to absolutely skyrocket, so get what you want while you can.

I don't plan on buying any of them, and probably won't even use the one that comes in the starter pack. I've just never enjoyed creating things in games. I just want to play. I'm a graphic designer so I create for a living. Creating things in games feels like I'm doing somebody's job and not getting paid for it, or in this case, paying them.

The whole appeal for this year's game for me is the villains and their figures.

Dunno, I design characters as well and I love slight limitation. The sizes that don't clip through each other, the colors that match the weapon, the Gear that actually fits the body. Sure, I'd much rather have Spore's freedom of body, but even there you still had set color patters, or with clothing, it didn't fit in every place.

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We'll get all the crystals (SkyLanders Collectors after all), but will buy them at a sale price, here's hoping for some sweet B1G2 Free sales for SI like SSC has.

and risk the yawn trap episode again?... its bound to happen.

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We'll get all the crystals (SkyLanders Collectors after all), but will buy them at a sale price, here's hoping for some sweet B1G2 Free sales for SI like SSC has.

and risk the yawn trap episode again?... its bound to happen.

It will happen. Although technically we can still use vehicles on the same courses (just different game) really doesn't provide me with a compelling argument for the gimmick. Same for the traps. If you're ok with a one and done investment of the gimmick, go for it. I'll probably get 2 or 3 to have enough to test the gimmick, but I'm not going "all in" on the gimmicks anymore unless they are the skylander itself, like what they did in Giants or Swap Force. The difference of course is that all skylanders are ported forward at least...these gimmicks are not. Activision broke my heart with not allowing me to complete my trap collection when I did go all it, so they've allowed me to proactively protect myself from it happening again. It's not like my collection will be complete now. And this is also why I'm dropping Alt Decos. Between logistical shipping issues and business decisions on the gimmick they make it REAL EASY for me to make this decision.

Oh, and "the collector" episode last game was a slam on people that do this. I still remember that too. No drama from me, but I know how to vote with my wallet.

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Quote: Portal___Master

We'll get all the crystals (SkyLanders Collectors after all), but will buy them at a sale price, here's hoping for some sweet B1G2 Free sales for SI like SSC has.

and risk the yawn trap episode again?... its bound to happen.

Yawns were totally different, they never ever released in USA, so we never had a chance to buy them in store or even USA online sites, we had to buy Yawns from ebay back in the early days when they were $30, so we got 3 each of Life, Fire & Light Yawns for the collection.

Sales will come for SI, just like every other Sky game, it's just buy now, and find the sales later, u have to know how to shop efficiently, don't wait to buy the latter waves, buy when they release and find a sale later; of course there's more to it than that, but that's the gist.

I'm frustrated because I'm almost the opposite of OP, but know I functionally can't do it. I like a couple of the new Senseis at best, and feel the pull of the game should be the crystals, but you literally need to buy so many senseis just to unlock the different battle classes (unless I'm missing szomething) and their moves, that you can beat the game with just the senseis - why make your own character for $10 a pop...especially when they most likely WON'T work in any future games?

I just cna't figure out what to really do with this game. I'm planning on getting the basic Starter set, no dark, no Crash (sorry its not really a deal), the four armed Sensei, Painyatta...and that's about it right now. I'd love to buy a bunch of crystals, but feel that I would need to buy senseis, to unlock the content, then to not play again. Feels so backwards.
- Unreall

You can't stop me from creating Destrobot.
He will be made.

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I'm frustrated because I'm almost the opposite of OP, but know I functionally can't do it. I like a couple of the new Senseis at best, and feel the pull of the game should be the crystals, but you literally need to buy so many senseis just to unlock the different battle classes (unless I'm missing szomething) and their moves, that you can beat the game with just the senseis - why make your own character for $10 a pop...especially when they most likely WON'T work in any future games?

I just cna't figure out what to really do with this game. I'm planning on getting the basic Starter set, no dark, no Crash (sorry its not really a deal), the four armed Sensei, Painyatta...and that's about it right now. I'd love to buy a bunch of crystals, but feel that I would need to buy senseis, to unlock the content, then to not play again. Feels so backwards.
- Unreall

you have already 18 master senseis, 2 guest senseis, and 11 villain senseis, thats a total of 31 figures to buy to top out your crystal character.. and when you have bought a lot of senseis to upgrade your crystal character, are you not gonna use them any more?, since your focus is on the crystal. then you have locked battle class to deal with to so you need to buy more crystals... i think its just best to boycott the crystals totally, you have more than enough senseis to buy and play with as it is. also the crash pack you unlock looks great, so why skip that?.

Quote: Unreallystic

you literally need to buy so many senseis just to unlock the different battle classes (unless I'm missing szomething) and their moves

You're definitely missing something. All 10 Battle Classes are available from the start, even if you don't have a single Sensei (or any other Skylander for that matter). Imaginator-wise, Senseis increase the level cap (which appears to default to 15), add a single part each, and unlock a single Secret Technique.

For Secret Techniques, all Senseis of the same Battle Class unlock the same one (Kaos doesn't unlock any at all). The other 3 are unlocked by progressing through the game (beating the Doomlander of the same class, or leveling up your Imaginator), so unless you desperately want the Sensei-specific Technique, you can completely ignore Senseis.

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I'd love to buy a bunch of crystals, but feel that I would need to buy senseis, to unlock the content, then to not play again.

They certainly help with unlocking content, due to being able to unlock Shrines and fight Gong Battles, as well as accessing/unlocking "Sensei Elemental Realms", but they are by no means required. Creation Crystals unlock sets of parts, so for initial rewards, they add more than Senseis.

Everything in the game is focused on unlocking parts for Imaginators, so there's a much stronger push for people to buy Crystals than Senseis. The main reason why many users consider avoiding crystals is because of the possible inability to reset them, which would be extremely anti-consumer.

so crystals unlock parts too now, i guess you must buy'em all then to get all the parts... i want flynns head part, oh no, that crystal didnt release in my country. yawn trap all over again.

Dude, at least all elements will be out by wave 3. Sure, not all molds,but Elemental parts aren't a worry actually. You only need one of each and it's just 10 sets total locked to them, 85%ish must be collectibles and Imaginite Chests.

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so crystals unlock parts too now, i guess you must buy'em all then to get all the parts... i want flynns head part, oh no, that crystal didnt release in my country. yawn trap all over again.

Well, SOMEONE did not read.

* Unlocked by Air Imaginite

* Unlocked by Tech Imaginite


It never said certain molds were required to unlock items. Only certain elements.

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Dude, at least all elements will be out by wave 3. Sure, not all molds,but Elemental parts aren't a worry actually. You only need one of each and it's just 10 sets total locked to them, 85%ish must be collectibles and Imaginite Chests.

ok i didnt know, thank god its not the insanity i had pictured they was going for.

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I'm frustrated because I'm almost the opposite of OP, but know I functionally can't do it. I like a couple of the new Senseis at best, and feel the pull of the game should be the crystals, but you literally need to buy so many senseis just to unlock the different battle classes (unless I'm missing szomething) and their moves, that you can beat the game with just the senseis - why make your own character for $10 a pop...especially when they most likely WON'T work in any future games?

I just cna't figure out what to really do with this game. I'm planning on getting the basic Starter set, no dark, no Crash (sorry its not really a deal), the four armed Sensei, Painyatta...and that's about it right now. I'd love to buy a bunch of crystals, but feel that I would need to buy senseis, to unlock the content, then to not play again. Feels so backwards.
- Unreall

you have already 18 master senseis, 2 guest senseis, and 11 villain senseis, thats a total of 31 figures to buy to top out your crystal character.. and when you have bought a lot of senseis to upgrade your crystal character, are you not gonna use them any more?, since your focus is on the crystal. then you have locked battle class to deal with to so you need to buy more crystals... i think its just best to boycott the crystals totally, you have more than enough senseis to buy and play with as it is. also the crash pack you unlock looks great, so why skip that?.

You know you don't have to buy all the senseis right? So far it only looks like you need 10 to get a mix of battle classes / elements to unlock basically everything.

I swear this subject needs to be dropped . No ones convincing anyone , some people will buy crystals and other ones won't. That's pretty much it .