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tbh i wouldn't mind seeing a VV villain like shellshock, spellslamzer, stratosfear, or mesmerelda

(although i think shellshock and stratosfear are ugly, mesmerelda is overraterd, and the only good one is spellslamzer)

I agree that they would be cool to see, though I'd honestly prefer an all Trap Team cast.

Well, I think Mesmeralda & Spellslamzer would be the best villains to choose from the VV games, they're popular and have a lot of potential. They could fit in the Light & Dark spots actually, though it would be kinda sad since then Luminous wouldn't come back.

Luminous is my favorite tokusatsu hero

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tbh i wouldn't mind seeing a VV villain like shellshock, spellslamzer, stratosfear, or mesmerelda

(although i think shellshock and stratosfear are ugly, mesmerelda is overraterd, and the only good one is spellslamzer)

I agree that they would be cool to see, though I'd honestly prefer an all Trap Team cast.

Lordy zap, I LIKE Mesmerelda

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I'll say, TFB copied VV's Spyro jumping animation instead of keeping their unique one from Trap Team.

Thats because they are using the VV engine.

They've been doing that since TT. Alchemy engine has been the standard since SF. Though I'm not engine expert,they probably share a library with everything and use it as they see fit.

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They've been doing that since TT. Alchemy engine has been the standard since SF. Though I'm not engine expert,they probably share a library with everything and use it as they see fit.

But not in STT right? Trap Team used Giants engine, or I thought so.

Nope,DemonWare had nowhere close to the capability TT has from Alchemy. What they used from Giants is the lighting engine I think,which is something else entirely. Alchemy is everything else from models to rendering to level building.

Again, I don't really know these from the inside out, I'm gathering from what we hear from interviews and the game comparisons.

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tbh i wouldn't mind seeing a VV villain like shellshock, spellslamzer, stratosfear, or mesmerelda

(although i think shellshock and stratosfear are ugly, mesmerelda is overraterd, and the only good one is spellslamzer)

I agree that they would be cool to see, though I'd honestly prefer an all Trap Team cast.

Lordy zap, I LIKE Mesmerelda

you see
since SSA, i wanted to see a level where multiple spell punks work together
5 years later, it happened in spellslamzer's boss battle
spellslamzer is freaking badass looking too

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I agree that they would be cool to see, though I'd honestly prefer an all Trap Team cast.

Lordy zap, I LIKE Mesmerelda

you see
since SSA, i wanted to see a level where multiple spell punks work together
5 years later, it happened in spellslamzer's boss battle
spellslamzer is freaking badass looking too

Yeah, Spellslamzer is definitely one of the best characters I've seen in the series. He was my favorite NPC in SC, and I wouldn't mind if he got a figure over Luminous.

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Lordy zap, I LIKE Mesmerelda

you see
since SSA, i wanted to see a level where multiple spell punks work together
5 years later, it happened in spellslamzer's boss battle
spellslamzer is freaking badass looking too

Yeah, Spellslamzer is definitely one of the best characters I've seen in the series. He was my favorite NPC in SC, and I wouldn't mind if he got a figure over Luminous.

if he got a figure over luminous, Luminous35 would be ****ing pissed

probably about as pissed as StriderSwag and the Spider Man rip off figure

Mesmeralda needs a rewrite more than being too popular. Her boss battle is really nonsensical when you think about it, not in a good way. Running towards the light because you're not ready to appear in the show yet? Being a puppet show but she's an actress in a theatre? Just finishes her song and disappears from the rest of the game after it, not being arrested or anything?
It's way past the 'it's a videogame' explanation, like Kaos' Mom her inclusion feels rushed like David showed up with the design a few weeks too late in development.

I always thought Mesmeralda was seriously overrated. I never really got why people freaked out about her so much. Is it just because she sang a song and fought you? I mean, I like her and all, but I don't get all the attention she gets. Oh well, it's probably same for some people with Spellslamzer, who I am a huge fan of.

Spellslamzer would probably make a good Brawler or a Ninja.

spellslamzer seemed more planned out than mesmeraelda. stratofear is just... no.

shellshock is a pretty funny guy, but figure worthy? not really.

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I always thought Mesmeralda was seriously overrated. I never really got why people freaked out about her so much. Is it just because she sang a song and fought you? I mean, I like her and all, but I don't get all the attention she gets. Oh well, it's probably same for some people with Spellslamzer, who I am a huge fan of.

Spellslamzer would probably make a good Brawler or a Ninja.

I REALLY want Bubba Greebs to be a magic or dark brawler

if you don't know who he is, he is a mutated greeble sorta thing, he appears in Swap Force:



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spellslamzer seemed more planned out than mesmeraelda. stratofear is just... no.

shellshock is a pretty funny guy, and is extremely figure worthy.

Fixed it for you, you can thank me later.

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spellslamzer seemed more planned out than mesmeraelda. stratofear is just... no.

shellshock is a pretty funny guy, but figure worthy? not really.

I flippin' love Shellshock and his accent. I found it hilarious how he'd sometimes start speaking German (I think it was) and Sharpfin had to translate for him. I like Stratosfear quite a bit. Enough to want him more than Dreamcatcher for the Air villain Sensei. It was funny to me when he kept calling your Skylanders filthy peasants.

But yeah, if this whole thing with not all villains from TT is true, I'll riot if we don't get a Spellslamzer figure.

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Mesmeralda needs a rewrite more than being too popular. Her boss battle is really nonsensical when you think about it, not in a good way. Running towards the light because you're not ready to appear in the show yet? Being a puppet show but she's an actress in a theatre? Just finishes her song and disappears from the rest of the game after it, not being arrested or anything?
It's way past the 'it's a videogame' explanation, like Kaos' Mom her inclusion feels rushed like David showed up with the design a few weeks too late in development.

Well, they tried to make her boss fight special by turning it into a show and no villain except for the Doom Raiders really gets arrested, they just leave them to die...
However, I like good Mesmy because she's a neat character with an interesting idea and I thought she was quite enjoyable with her dialougue, oh and I love that she's like a pretty spider. Shellshock's design was simply disgusting imo and since my games are in German they gave him a French accent, so it's not exactly the same experience. Stratosfear is just the fat rich guy who thinks he's better than everyone, I know all villains probably think that, but he's just far too cliche! Spellslamzer also isn't the most creative character since I couldn't stop seeing myself fighting the child of Star Strike & Enigma and I like Luminous far more. But for the sake of Mesmeralda, I want him to be the Light villain since he's the only villain other than Nightshade that could fit into the Ninja Class. And let's face it, Pain-Yatta's in and that comes from someone who doesn't like him and thinks that he's waaaaay too overrated.
God lord I really get into it when it's about villains. Just reveal them already TFB!

As much as I want a Spellslamzer figure, I think an all TT cast makes more sense as they've been trapped for a few years and have had time to reconsider their ways. I don't think Spellslamzer or Mesmerelda would convert so easily. Plus Mesmerelda is magic which has been taken by Pain-Yata.

And heck no to Shellshock.

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As much as I want a Spellslamzer figure, I think an all TT cast makes more sense as they've been trapped for a few years and have had time to reconsider their ways. I don't think Spellslamzer or Mesmerelda would convert so easily. Plus Mesmerelda is magic which has been taken by Pain-Yata.

And heck yea to Shellshock.

Fixed.

The villains at least are left in a state of utter defeat(i.e. Cluck getting crushed by his chicken army) or unable to fight back any longer(Moneybone), Mesmeralda looked not even worse for wear. She just kneels and ok guys job well done let's take Frosthound and not even have her incapacipated

Stratosfear is right voice, wrong character. He's too pathetic in every moment he shows up on(except the "belong in the sky" joke, that Marc nailed even in character) and we have ENOUGH villains with that trait: Shellshock(more hopeless than pathetic, his character is great exactly because he doesn't care on having powers of his own), Cluck at times, Moneybone without his armor, Dream Sheep. That he's just some random politician that occasionally takes over the kingdom and that the Storm Giants treat it as business as usual only makes his existence more pointless, might as well have a boss enemy like Pipsqueak/Shadow Duke, and put that voice on someone with the greatness to back the authority.

I like Shellshock and Spellslamzer quite a bit. The thing with Shellshock is that they could do a lot with him. He could hold two swords to be a Swashbuckler, a cannon to be a Bazooker or he could use his hook hand to fight as a Brawler. Also, isn't he meant to be a crab of sorts, like Wham-Shell? Yeah, I don't think a humanoid German crab is meant to be pretty.

The crabs in the series are all cartoony, he's jarring because he's realistic. I think he's just supposed to be a different crab subspecies like elves, but like most villains, **** a short backstory to explain these questions to fans, am I right.

I love Spellslamzer for being John Kassir literally raspy voicing it up to getting hoarse(his laugh is the most obvious part), which is hilarious. Again, backstory for why is he so big or the "ultimate spell punk" as Lou said would be nice.

The only villains I wouldn't mind taking spots from Doom Raiders are Shellshock, Spellslamzer and Stratosfear. I'd rather have Pain-yatta and Nightshade instead of Mesmeralda.

Shellshock is an amazingly accurate crab, way more than Wham Shell at least.

Stratosfear mostly comes off as a kind of generic comedic starter villain. He didn't really have a good boss fight, and I really do not think he has much to work with period. Keep in mind that his main weapon was the thunderous bolt, which is not a thing he actually owns, and obviously not something he'd allowed to be near after the Cloud Kingdom incident.

Spellslamzer is a really good boss, with a lot of potential, but honestly, not only do I think he's not Light (Let's be honest, the Skystones aren't really trustworthy when it comes to elements), but I really prefer Luminous as well.

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Shellshock is an amazingly accurate crab, way more than Wham Shell at least.

Stratosfear mostly comes off as a kind of generic comedic starter villain. He didn't really have a good boss fight, and I really do not think he has much to work with period. Keep in mind that his main weapon was the thunderous bolt, which is not a thing he actually owns, and obviously not something he'd allowed to be near after the Cloud Kingdom incident.

Spellslamzer is a really good boss, with a lot of potential, but honestly, not only do I think he's not Light (Let's be honest, the Skystones aren't really trustworthy when it comes to elements), but I really prefer Luminous as well.

Spellslamzer could still be Magic or Dark. Also, Stratosfear could be given a new weapon, but with an Air Brawler possibly hinted by Crash's artwork, I think we'll just get Dreamcatcher instead. However, Shellshock, Spellslamzer and Mesmeralda still have potential.

Mesmeralda I honestly think would be the most likely out of VV's villains due to her popularity. And it could give them a chance to flesh her out more, give her a backstory, show more of her personality, stuff like that.

Spellslamzer could work, and wouldn't be too far-fetched.

Stratosfear, while I don't think he's as likely as the other two, could work as well.

Shellshock is the only one I'm not too sure about. I like him just as much as the next guy, but I think he's better off as just an NPC/side villain and not a Skylander.

Apparently ther is a short video up on Amazon.com where Lou explains the creation process behind Crystals, Imaginators and such.
It should also show off some parts, don't know if new or old though.

Would like to post it myself but I am not able to watch it right now so I wouldn't want to post something redundant or of no interest.
If anyone could watch it and post it there, if worth it, that would be very helpful.

The thumbnail has the vulture mini-boss on it.

I can't find this video neither on youtube nor by simply searching for the game on Amazon, is it somewhere more specific

Straying a little off topic, I finally finished Superchargers on Nightmare, finishing my nostalgia second run through all the games. Traptanium Kaos on Nightmare is better than The Darkness on Nightmare,there I said it. At least it didn't make me motion sick to the point I almost lost my entire collection to not being able to see the walls spawn in time(maybe I just suck, but I went from almost dodging in rhythm at the start of the third phase to ramming the walls repeatedly in the final phase), that guy beat me cheap and square but with skill-based cheap.

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That's just Little Mac's outfit. Unless it's a generic boxing outfit, we don't see much of that in my country.

Well that's one Smash character you can create now,since there's a head resembling him already.

WOWZERS

now I can make the mice from cinderella if I wanted to lol

thanks for the idea bifrost

I'm not the only person who thinks that every head seen so far is really ugly right?

The heads are fine, the colours are the problem for a lot of the head previews we've seen . Also most previews have the head too enlarged so it stands out too much.

You really need to put effort into the creation to balance out the size and colours fir the head, ears, eyes etc.


The mouse head is cool, hopefully that fair isn't permanent .

The video from amazon is just the video from Gamespot @E3. https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...3353&sr=1-4-acs

I am interested in seeing all of the available heads, hopefully we get some good ones.

I have a question, do you all think that the Brawler class Imaginators will get some kind of ranged attack? Just asking cause, well, I really hope we do get something similar to the Kamehameha.

Well, there are Elemental Powers and Soul Gems, so you can make them use ranged attacks.

Just as a little note, no need to double post. You can edit your past post.

Thank You. I really need to fire some lasers.

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The video from amazon is just the video from Gamespot @E3. https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...3353&sr=1-4-acs

Oh, ok, thanks!

I am wondering if being part of a specific Element will alter your Imaginators' abilities even without using specific powers.
For example, the reveal trailer shows a Bowslinger's charged attack which let him shoot multiple explosive arrows: maybe that's a Fire specific perk and a Life character would instead leave a cloud of poison where they land.
The effect on the arrows changes, no doubt on that, so the ability might as well.

To make another example, the Fire Smasher used in the reveal gameplay clearly had some kind of fire effect when swinging his club; maybe a Water Smasher would be able to freeze the enemies he hits, sometimes.

I think that would improve replayability quite a lot, because it would encourage you to try each Battle Class with every Element (and that's already 100 potential Imaginators).

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I am interested in seeing all of the available heads, hopefully we get some good ones.

I have a question, do you all think that the Brawler class Imaginators will get some kind of ranged attack? Just asking cause, well, I really hope we do get something similar to the Kamehameha.

if people could take screens shots of all the parts shown in videos, and collect every picture put on the internet of every parts. then put it all together in one post here at darkspyro we could see what parts are available so far.

It's possible the element changes the particle effects, because Sorcerer would look several times more generic if it didn't change at least a little.

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It's possible the element changes the particle effects, because Sorcerer would look several times more generic if it didn't change at least a little.

It definitely changes the particles.
The Undead Bowslinger created by yroc had a dark purple effect on the arrows compared to the orange/red one on the Fire Imaginators'.
Unless that's tied to the palette you choose, which isn't impossible for sure.

But it would be a pity if it were simply an aesthetic feature and didn't changed the gameplay a bit.
Not to mention a Water Bowslinger with a fiery explosion ability would be quite odd.

Speaking of Sorcerers, though, they are probably the Class I'm most interested to see in action.
I have this bad feeling all the staffs will float around like the green one shown in the reveal trailer (would be cool if it were an idle animation but would heavily limit the design possibilities) similarly to how the most unique type of legs seem to be Swashbuckler exclusive.

Concerns aside, I'm plain curious to see their primary abilities and if they are a mix of long and short ranged attacks like I expect them to be.

EDIT:
At the very end of the Crash trailer you can spot two Sorcerers which are directly wielding their staffs... BUT both floats.
Maybe all of them will be forced to float since all the ones we've seen so far do.
If that's the case, I'm not that happy (Golden Queen doesn't float) but it's still better than having the staff floating around you.

GD floats for a few frames when she fires. Keep in mind that could also be their idle, or the end of Magic Upheval.

found this on an article. it's not anything special but cool nonetheless




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GD floats for a few frames when she fires. Keep in mind that could also be their idle, or the end of Magic Upheval.

All those Imaginators (except for the witch-looking one in the reveal trailer) weren't moving so it's absolutely possible it's just their idle animation and I surely hope so.

Mmmh... The same design for the Dark and Life tubes again.
It's really difficult to tell what's placeholder and what isn't, this year.

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It's possible the element changes the particle effects, because Sorcerer would look several times more generic if it didn't change at least a little.

It definitely changes the particles.
The Undead Bowslinger created by yroc had a dark purple effect on the arrows compared to the orange/red one on the Fire Imaginators'.
Unless that's tied to the palette you choose, which isn't impossible for sure.

But it would be a pity if it were simply an aesthetic feature and didn't changed the gameplay a bit.
Not to mention a Water Bowslinger with a fiery explosion ability would be quite odd.

I think the primary attack will have elemental differences.
I'm pretty sure the primary attack is shown to have an upgrade option and seeing as single shot and multi-shot archers are different attack tree options , I think the upgrades must refer to the effect the arrows have on the shot enemies.

E.g. Possible archer type effects...

( the good ones obviously only work on weaker enemies )

Fire: burn damage over time
Water: slow with ice
Air: knock back
Earth: turn to stone
Life: poison cloud or trapping vines ( combined slow and damage damage)
Undead: steal health
Tech: Impact creates coins
Magic: mind control of enemies
Light: light shots refracts off enemies in other directions
Dark: blind enemies ( wander off in random directions for short time )

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It's possible the element changes the particle effects, because Sorcerer would look several times more generic if it didn't change at least a little.

It definitely changes the particles.
The Undead Bowslinger created by yroc had a dark purple effect on the arrows compared to the orange/red one on the Fire Imaginators'.
Unless that's tied to the palette you choose, which isn't impossible for sure.

But it would be a pity if it were simply an aesthetic feature and didn't changed the gameplay a bit.
Not to mention a Water Bowslinger with a fiery explosion ability would be quite odd.

Speaking of Sorcerers, though, they are probably the Class I'm most interested to see in action.
I have this bad feeling all the staffs will float around like the green one shown in the reveal trailer (would be cool if it were an idle animation but would heavily limit the design possibilities) similarly to how the most unique type of legs seem to be Swashbuckler exclusive.

Concerns aside, I'm plain curious to see their primary abilities and if they are a mix of long and short ranged attacks like I expect them to be.

EDIT:
At the very end of the Crash trailer you can spot two Sorcerers which are directly wielding their staffs... BUT both floats.
Maybe all of them will be forced to float since all the ones we've seen so far do.
If that's the case, I'm not that happy (Golden Queen doesn't float) but it's still better than having the staff floating around you.

Oh yes, I just hope they won't float around sitting all the time because Lapis would look hilarious. If we get the option to choose tails as legs for every class, then this is just... oh wait a minute! That idle animation where they cross their legs wouldn't be possible with a tail, is that another hint at tails being Swashbuckler exclusive???

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Would you look at that, mouse Goku (except the pants). You can't get the orange and blue past anyone. Even the shoes look similar. And the parts are of a Brawler, nice.

Holy crap this thread got so many posts since i've been last on

What's new?

^ possible legendary crash bandicoot in separate topic