darkSpyro

it's already 3-4 pm there

Time zones only change the hour, so it's "3:37" right now.

What time is the press thingy going down?

maybe 4?

I can't wait to see what this game is about.

it only 11:40 here

The press event has been going on for some time now, according to someone who works with FamilyGamerTV. We, sadly, probably aren't seeing anything until tomorrow.

maybe he's at the event and won't report until later today?

I really hope so!
Come on, it's just a day (less, now)! How much difference could it make?

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I really hope so!
Come on, it's just a day (less, now)! How much difference could it make?

I work tomorrow, and I'm off today. Makes all the difference when you're waiting on an announcement like this lol

I'm off today too, and at school tomorrow, but what I meant was, why keep it so much secret, when it is still just a single day before it's "official" american announcement?
I don't see a single reason to keep it secret, at this point.

i'm in school; tomorrow as well.

BUT

if it's announced at 8:00 NYC time, we'll get news at 5:00 Pacific time.

(Oh darn I posted)


The name is quite peculiar... Seeing as how there is such a great difference with that title comparing to the past 3. If it actually turned out to be real, it would seem Activision is finding a new viewpoint for the franchise, or so I'd assume. With that said, it would lead my imagination into thinking something greater, something different would be included from now on in the series. As far as I can hope, a possibly different kind of story. Of course, being a kids franchise I wouldn't expect some darker story, but something a bit more serious (i.e. A more serious enemy than Kaos) would actually be quite nice to see.

^Disney didn't have a problem with darker stories. It can be done tastefully. The game shouldn't be all Comedy Central either. More serious (let one or two do the comedy) would be a good start. More at stake.

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Skylanders 4. You can play as Chompy =DAY ONE for me LOL

BTW I can't wait for tomorrow

One hit kill. That would make for interesting gameplay.

This is getting repetitive.
The skylanders cycle:

New Game Rumors are out
Fans get excited, hoping to see basic features like online 4 player multiplayer
The game Is announced, hype builds up even more, everyone is excited about the latest concept
Figures are shown, everyone falls in love.
*cue long waiting time for game to be released*
Game is released, fans complain about how the game is too short, and how the figures are too expensive.
People complain that there is nothing new in the latest game.
Fans start waiting for the next game and start speculating on what will be new.

It's gonna happen again guys. Expect S4, a short game, and no online multiplayer.

^There's a degree of truth in many of your statements, and I suspect if they don't bring what the fans want they'll feel the pain appropriately. I'm not optimistic about "longer"...I am hopeful however for "longevity" of gameplay...provided they innovate to provide more to like on returned re-plays...there are ways to do this without having to do more from a work perspective. The big question is are they going to let their "target market" cloud legitimate judgements that could truly satisfy what I suspect are just as big of an audience as the kids they want to serve.

I would be truly disappointed in no online capability, but deep down I suspect we'll be disappointed on one or more target areas this board has been very vocal on.

Major buzzkill. Unfortunately I have a feeling you are right.

It's simple.

Make the game patchable
Add online multiplayer
Increase content

Sure there are other things that would be great, but that's the gist of it.

-make your own levels
-better purpose for money
-shorter levels but more of them
-more in game unlockables via playing
-more 'star' related items that require multiple play throughs

*shrug*
- Unreall

The major difference is that people generally learns after a couple of times, and those on the fence will finally make negative purchase decisions. This in conjunction with the "developer's paradox" of playing it safe may finally do one of two tings---promote change or designate the beginning of the end. It's up to Activision to realize what's going on, what people want, and act accordingly. I feel a bit more optimistic this time around because TfB is at the helm. We'll see.

As Unreal says, the major thrust are tweaks to make multiple play throughs more needed to provide more value. Time Attack / Points is a start...what can we do however to make the playthrough different or provide additional content/value that wasn't shown the first time? Good Grief does anyone remember Resident Evil 2? The same game, but had areas of new content and new storyline with minimal rework. In that game you had A/B scenarios and they all played out differently depending on which character you started with in the A scenario. That means you have to play 4 times to see all of the content! That's what I'm talking about. It seems people forget the simple things developers had to do to increase re-playability when we had technology constraints.

Reliability/patched content, tournaments online, gameplay innovations to make it more strategy and less "run and gun"... all are things that add up hugely to the overall experience. Stupid things like what got our goat in Swap Force (no skipping, forced reviewing of videos, no benefit for reaching portal rank 80, lack of heroics) all count in there.

I always kept my excitement from Swap Force from the day of the reveal to the time the game was released. However, I am a little bored with it. I find myself buying the newest figure and just leveling him/her up and thats it... I've only had the game 5 months. I hope the new game brings in some longevity in some way, especially attached to the figures like the heroics. But I always know that I will enjoy pretty much all the characters. There were few with Swap Force that I didnt like. Also...I really hope there is no more than 16 new characters. It gets to be a bit much with 32. I really enjoyed Giants for that reason.

32 new is reasonable, what makes it untenable is that PLUS crazy store exclusives, reposes, re colorings etc. making it 60+ figures. I'm saying no to reposes if they keep doing what they've been doing, will more than likely start targeting the unnecessary lightcores, store exclusives, etc. next and just stay to core new only. If they bring their A game to make the purchases justifiable (more so), I'll reconsider. But they've always been too heavy on the toy side with this game...and it needs more balance.

Apparently it's embargoed until tomorrow at 7PM EST.

Andy talks about the Trap Team leak.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/an...r-skylanders-4/

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Apparently it's embargoed until tomorrow at 7PM EST.

What a senseless decision!
Oh, well. At least let's hope the game is worth the wait.

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The major difference is that people generally learns after a couple of times, and those on the fence will finally make negative purchase decisions. This in conjunction with the "developer's paradox" of playing it safe may finally do one of two tings---promote change or designate the beginning of the end. It's up to Activision to realize what's going on, what people want, and act accordingly. I feel a bit more optimistic this time around because TfB is at the helm. We'll see.

As Unreal says, the major thrust are tweaks to make multiple play throughs more needed to provide more value. Time Attack / Points is a start...what can we do however to make the playthrough different or provide additional content/value that wasn't shown the first time? Good Grief does anyone remember Resident Evil 2? The same game, but had areas of new content and new storyline with minimal rework. In that game you had A/B scenarios and they all played out differently depending on which character you started with in the A scenario. That means you have to play 4 times to see all of the content! That's what I'm talking about. It seems people forget the simple things developers had to do to increase re-playability when we had technology constraints.

Reliability/patched content, tournaments online, gameplay innovations to make it more strategy and less "run and gun"... all are things that add up hugely to the overall experience. Stupid things like what got our goat in Swap Force (no skipping, forced reviewing of videos, no benefit for reaching portal rank 80, lack of heroics) all count in there.

Just to fan this post a little more, they need to look at one of the best selling and most played games of all time - the Diablo series. You literally farm the same content for YEARS. How do they keep interest going? Between PvP, Ladders, and just 'options' to improve your character (along with defining different playstyles based on those characters).

Skylanders will NEVER be a Diablo style game, but they should look into those factors that made people play it for so long.
- Unreall

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Andy talks about the Trap Team leak.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/an...r-skylanders-4/

Very cool that DarkSpyro is cited as the source!!

-vm

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Just to fan this post a little more, they need to look at one of the best selling and most played games of all time - the Diablo series. You literally farm the same content for YEARS. How do they keep interest going? Between PvP, Ladders, and just 'options' to improve your character (along with defining different playstyles based on those characters).

Skylanders will NEVER be a Diablo style game, but they should look into those factors that made people play it for so long.
- Unreall

Thing is, new Skylanders games are released each year, not every 10 years

Well lookie who it is - it's Ranger! Just posted on the Skoylandurs Twitter (and presumably Facebook too). Could this be our two new starters? Ranger and... The small guy? These are two completely new characters we've not seen (well, scratch that last part). People are calling the small guy 'Super-Sayan Trigger Happy'.

They're being revealed tomorrow.

Edit: Take note (I'll be doing a test tomorrow), the crystal looking background. Remember the translucent weapons? Remember the "Crystal Power" leak months ago? Remember the enemies that popped out of Crystals?

SUPER SAYAN TRIGGER HAPPY! I WANT THAT

Not to mention they picked the names for voting yesterday. We'll defineitly see some of the unnamed characters.

OMG
CALL HIM SAYANARA MUCHACHOS TRIGGER HAPPY

Trap=little buddies that help you fight?

Really glad to finally see something! At least staying awake until now was worth it.
Really happy to finally see something more of "Ranger", not that much for that almost sure S4 Trigger Happy... Hoped for a new character instead of a repose.
Crystals are definitely going to play a big role in the new game, and this seems really exciting!

Maybe two-part figures? Ranger is a little generic for someone.

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Really glad to finally see something! At least staying awake until now was worth it.
Really happy to finally see something more of "Ranger", not that much for that almost sure S4 Trigger Happy... Hoped for a new character instead of a repose.
Crystals are definitely going to play a big role in the new game, and this seems really exciting!

The Twitter post specifically said two new characters we've "NEVER" seen before. So it's not Trigger Happy... It just looks like Trigger Happy. Which really just means it's an Imp like Pop Fizz too... But with guns...

Hmm...

what is the super sayan thing!?!?!?

"Ranger" is probably just a new type of Skylanders, like the Giants and the Swap Force members before them.
Something related to interchangeable weapons?
Doesn't seems that innovative, and could be a big damage, in terms of characters uniqueness, but, who knows...

well, pop fizz was going to be named "Alchemist" but it was changed by E3.

i suspect the've already changed the name and we will find out tomorrow

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Really glad to finally see something! At least staying awake until now was worth it.
Really happy to finally see something more of "Ranger", not that much for that almost sure S4 Trigger Happy... Hoped for a new character instead of a repose.
Crystals are definitely going to play a big role in the new game, and this seems really exciting!

The Twitter post specifically said two new characters we've "NEVER" seen before. So it's not Trigger Happy... It just looks like Trigger Happy. Which really just means it's an Imp like Pop Fizz too... But with guns...

Hmm...

Dont know about Twitter, but the Skylanders Facebook Page often describes reposes as "never seen before brand new amazing characters".
And I am not exaggerating.
That Skylander is too much similar to Trigs, to be someone else. Another imp with guns would mean an incredible lack of creativity by TfB designers.
As for Ranger... I hope so.

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"Ranger" is probably just a new type of Skylanders, like the Giants and the Swap Force members before them.
Something related to interchangeable weapons?
Doesn't seems that innovative, and could be a big damage, in terms of characters uniqueness, but, who knows...

Rangers that help other characters?

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Really glad to finally see something! At least staying awake until now was worth it.
Really happy to finally see something more of "Ranger", not that much for that almost sure S4 Trigger Happy... Hoped for a new character instead of a repose.
Crystals are definitely going to play a big role in the new game, and this seems really exciting!

The Twitter post specifically said two new characters we've "NEVER" seen before. So it's not Trigger Happy... It just looks like Trigger Happy. Which really just means it's an Imp like Pop Fizz too... But with guns...

Hmm...

Dont know about Twitter, but the Skylanders Facebook Page often describes reposes as "never seen before brand new amazing characters".
And I am not exaggerating.
That Skylander is too much similar to Trigs, to be someone else. Another imp with guns would mean an incredible lack of creativity by TfB designers.
As for Ranger... I hope so.

I'd be disappointed to hear if the Trigger Happy look-alike is just a repose and not a totally new character. I love him, but I'm tired of reposes. Even if it was a new character, it seems too similar to Trigger Happy to be original. We're only judging by a silhouette though, maybe when we get some more info tomorrow we'll actually see how the character's like.

Oh yeah, and the guy on the right is totally the ranger. I can't wait for tomorrow

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Well lookie who it is - it's Ranger! Just posted on the Skoylandurs Twitter (and presumably Facebook too). Could this be our two new starters? Ranger and... The small guy? These are two completely new characters we've not seen (well, scratch that last part). People are calling the small guy 'Super-Sayan Trigger Happy'.

They're being revealed tomorrow.

Edit: Take note (I'll be doing a test tomorrow), the crystal looking background. Remember the translucent weapons? Remember the "Crystal Power" leak months ago? Remember the enemies that popped out of Crystals?

Quote: ZapNorris

SUPER SAYAN TRIGGER HAPPY! I WANT THAT

I want one too


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Quote: Drek95

Really glad to finally see something! At least staying awake until now was worth it.
Really happy to finally see something more of "Ranger", not that much for that almost sure S4 Trigger Happy... Hoped for a new character instead of a repose.
Crystals are definitely going to play a big role in the new game, and this seems really exciting!

The Twitter post specifically said two new characters we've "NEVER" seen before. So it's not Trigger Happy... It just looks like Trigger Happy. Which really just means it's an Imp like Pop Fizz too... But with guns...

Hmm...

It's pop fizz and trigger's love child!


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what is the super sayan thing!?!?!?

google it: it's from a 1980's Japanese anime dragonball z. 1990's/2000 if we are talking the us release/dubbed officials

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Quote: bionicle2809

The Twitter post specifically said two new characters we've "NEVER" seen before. So it's not Trigger Happy... It just looks like Trigger Happy. Which really just means it's an Imp like Pop Fizz too... But with guns...

Hmm...

Dont know about Twitter, but the Skylanders Facebook Page often describes reposes as "never seen before brand new amazing characters".
And I am not exaggerating.
That Skylander is too much similar to Trigs, to be someone else. Another imp with guns would mean an incredible lack of creativity by TfB designers.
As for Ranger... I hope so.

I'd be disappointed to hear if the Trigger Happy look-alike is just a repose and not a totally new character. I love him, but I'm tired of reposes. Even if it was a new character, it seems too similar to Trigger Happy to be original. We're only judging by a silhouette though, maybe when we get some more info tomorrow we'll actually see how the character's like.

Oh yeah, and the guy on the right is totally the ranger. I can't wait for tomorrow

His name is not ranger dear. That's a character type. 'Member how there are Ranger Vehicles?

One of the figures in the silhouette is featured in this mega bloks image from Toy Fair 2014

Omg! Maybe the Guy beside Super-Saian-Trigger-Happy is Hunter! Surely not, but it would be so great

Hmmph. It definitely looks like a Pop Fizz and Trigger Happy combo.

Ranger will definitely be the first gimmick character revealed, although I was hoping for the mummy-like Undead character.

I hope so to on my computer I speculated a ghost roaster wow pow

Don't forget the Golden Lion, Orange Hammer guy, and Undead Mummy:

I've just realised, those four new characters all have translucent coloured weapons. Maybe they're crystal? Perhaps the new gimmick charaters have something to do with this?