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I just hope it has more levels but less boss levels as I didn't enjoy them as much except for Kaos' Mom level and the Kaos boss fight, the other three were kind of irritating.

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What now activision? Swapping Giants? Nano Skylanders? wonder whats next...

Swapping Giants...Wow.

That's a story plothole.

as the giants swap jimmes rustle slowly

If they make us all buy new portals of power again, it's just plain greed on Activision's part in making money...at the end of the day, we're all padding the pockets of the guys making these games and have to draw a line somewhere as to what we'll accept for future games. I'm done with the franchise if they require us to buy another portal for the new game.

[sarcasm coming up]

let me guess, the main villian this time is KAOS????

OMG again atleast this time I know to get it on wii U if iget it and R.I.P wallets,purses money boxes

I hope we don't need a new portal. I already have 4!!!

Maybe Ghost Roaster or Boomer will be reposed as s2.

Oh and wind up and warnado as well!

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[sarcasm coming up]

let me guess, the main villian this time is KAOS????

I am sick and tired of Kaos. He was kinda funny in the first two games but now he's just annoying. I just hope they don't dumb down the game as much as they did with Swap Force. I want dialogue that doesn't make me want to burn the TV

^Honestly, I thought the Dialogue was better than Giants'.

And with all the villains we have in the series(console, adventure packs, handheld) I think Kaos should team up with a few of them in a future game.

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^Honestly, I thought the Dialogue was better than Giants'.

And with all the villains we have in the series(console, adventure packs, handheld) I think Kaos should team up with a few of them in a future game.

That's what I meant. I cannot stand the dialogue in Swap Force....

YAY! hopefully will return!

I really want Kaos to have a break- if not just get sent on permanent vacation- soon. He's just not that entertaining any more. He was cool in the first game because of having the "Portal Master" aspect that made it feel like he was a real rival. But in Giants and SWAP Force, he was pretty much just on a repeated tape saying DOOM over and over. He didn't feel threatening at all- he didn't do anything that really did make him feel threatening in any way. The character was never that amazing in the first place but he was supposed to be a Portal Master- like a great responsibility, a rare power- and it was kinda funny that he was such a wench and turned out to be so hated even with all the power he had. And again, having that aspect also made him a good rival, you were a Portal Master too, you wanted to fight him and stop his misuse of power. And he had armies. He had his own world in The Outlands. And he had that mean old Hydra on his side. They should have just killed him after SA, IMO, he was great- even though he was undeniably cheesy- there.

Come to think of it- Flynn is the same. He was always my least favourite character(besides Persephone and Rufus), easily. I think he had some good lines in the first game though... Like, "fifth wall" and "heroes like us, who like cake". And for those golden lines that he did get, that I'm still quoting to my friends, I still liked him. Not so much in Giants and SWAP Force... Where he honestly felt like one of those Internet kids that try to be "random" by shouting "PIE x3 !", and was made just to keep the attention of the less mature demographic. Honestly, I just can't remember anything he said from Giants or SF- he just didn't entertain me at all. Plus, he's really been shoved down our throats lately, I mean for goodness sake the main plot in the SF 3DS game is about Flynn getting a golden statue of himself in his hometown and he's pretty much the main character of the series in general now. In SF he didn't have so much screentime all the time, and other characters got screentime to balance out his presence. He's just not an interesting or entertaining character to lead the story. I was sick of him after I got through Giants. He made me cringe every time I saw him in SF.

Both these characters need to take a break, IMO. I would LOVE a main series game with a genuinely threatening villain. I mean look at Hektore, he outright KILLED (kinda) a character in the first cutscene. The father of your main guide, no less. And he chases you when he finds about your presence so that he can hunt down your Skylanders. He actually did something to stop you instead of Kaos, who literally gave you the elements that he needed, and the other 3DS villains who just weren't threatening and didn't really do much(though Frightbeard almost succeeded, so I'll give him a bit of credit for that, but that didn't feel serious at all anyway). I thought that he was a genuinely good villain... He didn't need much dialog, just his presence while he was chasing you was kind of threatening, honestly. Though I will admit, his boss battle sucked so that made him a bit less of an awesome.

And who would replace Flynn? Easy. Just make Hugo and Cali the main characters. Now I know some of you hate Cali and I understand why, but she's still less annoying than Flynn, in my opinion. But mainly: both of them (not to mention Tessa? They should fit her in somewhere?) NEED CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. They just feel like filler. Hugo has been gone since SA and Cali was totally dumped to the side in SF with Tessa "replacing" her. Plus, I think it would be more interesting to see Cali and Hugo in a story together, because I think that they could have some pretty entertaining lines, and they're generally more mature than Flynn which would pave the way for a more in-depth story, if you will.

And that would be the polar opposite of Flynn and Kaos. It would be nice to get even one game that was just a bit more serious about things. I'm not trying to say "stop having fun" to the story- I'm trying to say "stop being so stupid and annoying", or better yet, "please try to be a bit more mature".

I don't mind if it has a light hearted theme, but it was kind of grating in Giants, and it just feels like lowest common denominator pandering in SF. When was the last time that Kaos actually felt like a villain and when he actually did something a villain would do instead of being completely stupid? It was fine in SA because he "underestimated" you and got too cocky but in Giants and SF he knew you were powerful and should have acted more seriously. Does using a Portal suddenly make a Portal Master a dumbnut? (omgusingthatasheadcanonnow) And Flynn, just isn't as well written now, IMO. He doesn't have any line nearly as clever as some of the stuff he said in SA. He had a lot of roll-your-eyes moments, sure, but they've been showing him more and more which is why he is becoming worse now.

I had a better post typed out but then lost that data, so w/e, but I hope I'm getting my point accross. I just find Flynn and Kaos obnoxious now. They've been done. We've seen 'em, they were funny in a cheesy way in the first game, but please stop plastering them everywhere because they're just becoming predictable, annoying and negative adjective of your choice now.

I liked the somewhat serious tone of the first game--where your adversary feels threatening. It seems like a Sunday Park stroll now with the plot lines...moving it closer to center and taking more chances on the characters we connect to would be appreciated. I like the voice actor doing Flynn, but I agree he and Kaos are "overdone".

Time for new blood.

I would love to see the Undead Dragon King, Malefor as the new antagonist for Skylanders 4. Seriously it would be SO awesome.

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I really want Kaos to have a break- if not just get sent on permanent vacation- soon. He's just not that entertaining any more. He was cool in the first game because of having the "Portal Master" aspect that made it feel like he was a real rival. But in Giants and SWAP Force, he was pretty much just on a repeated tape saying DOOM over and over. He didn't feel threatening at all- he didn't do anything that really did make him feel threatening in any way. The character was never that amazing in the first place but he was supposed to be a Portal Master- like a great responsibility, a rare power- and it was kinda funny that he was such a wench and turned out to be so hated even with all the power he had. And again, having that aspect also made him a good rival, you were a Portal Master too, you wanted to fight him and stop his misuse of power. And he had armies. He had his own world in The Outlands. And he had that mean old Hydra on his side. They should have just killed him after SA, IMO, he was great- even though he was undeniably cheesy- there.

Come to think of it- Flynn is the same. He was always my least favourite character(besides Persephone and Rufus), easily. I think he had some good lines in the first game though... Like, "fifth wall" and "heroes like us, who like cake". And for those golden lines that he did get, that I'm still quoting to my friends, I still liked him. Not so much in Giants and SWAP Force... Where he honestly felt like one of those Internet kids that try to be "random" by shouting "PIE x3 !", and was made just to keep the attention of the less mature demographic. Honestly, I just can't remember anything he said from Giants or SF- he just didn't entertain me at all. Plus, he's really been shoved down our throats lately, I mean for goodness sake the main plot in the SF 3DS game is about Flynn getting a golden statue of himself in his hometown and he's pretty much the main character of the series in general now. In SF he didn't have so much screentime all the time, and other characters got screentime to balance out his presence. He's just not an interesting or entertaining character to lead the story. I was sick of him after I got through Giants. He made me cringe every time I saw him in SF.

Both these characters need to take a break, IMO. I would LOVE a main series game with a genuinely threatening villain. I mean look at Hektore, he outright KILLED (kinda) a character in the first cutscene. The father of your main guide, no less. And he chases you when he finds about your presence so that he can hunt down your Skylanders. He actually did something to stop you instead of Kaos, who literally gave you the elements that he needed, and the other 3DS villains who just weren't threatening and didn't really do much(though Frightbeard almost succeeded, so I'll give him a bit of credit for that, but that didn't feel serious at all anyway). I thought that he was a genuinely good villain... He didn't need much dialog, just his presence while he was chasing you was kind of threatening, honestly. Though I will admit, his boss battle sucked so that made him a bit less of an awesome.

And who would replace Flynn? Easy. Just make Hugo and Cali the main characters. Now I know some of you hate Cali and I understand why, but she's still less annoying than Flynn, in my opinion. But mainly: both of them (not to mention Tessa? They should fit her in somewhere?) NEED CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. They just feel like filler. Hugo has been gone since SA and Cali was totally dumped to the side in SF with Tessa "replacing" her. Plus, I think it would be more interesting to see Cali and Hugo in a story together, because I think that they could have some pretty entertaining lines, and they're generally more mature than Flynn which would pave the way for a more in-depth story, if you will.

And that would be the polar opposite of Flynn and Kaos. It would be nice to get even one game that was just a bit more serious about things. I'm not trying to say "stop having fun" to the story- I'm trying to say "stop being so stupid and annoying", or better yet, "please try to be a bit more mature".

I don't mind if it has a light hearted theme, but it was kind of grating in Giants, and it just feels like lowest common denominator pandering in SF. When was the last time that Kaos actually felt like a villain and when he actually did something a villain would do instead of being completely stupid? It was fine in SA because he "underestimated" you and got too cocky but in Giants and SF he knew you were powerful and should have acted more seriously. Does using a Portal suddenly make a Portal Master a dumbnut? (omgusingthatasheadcanonnow) And Flynn, just isn't as well written now, IMO. He doesn't have any line nearly as clever as some of the stuff he said in SA. He had a lot of roll-your-eyes moments, sure, but they've been showing him more and more which is why he is becoming worse now.

I had a better post typed out but then lost that data, so w/e, but I hope I'm getting my point accross. I just find Flynn and Kaos obnoxious now. They've been done. We've seen 'em, they were funny in a cheesy way in the first game, but please stop plastering them everywhere because they're just becoming predictable, annoying and negative adjective of your choice now.

I have to say, I agree with you (Other than getting rid of Flynn). Kaos in the first game did feel like a threat because he killed Eon (Even though he comes back as a Jedi spirit), who in a way is your mentor. He had a rare power and knew when and how to use it. In Giants I actually forgot he was a Portal Master because he never did anything remotely Portal Master-ish. That goes the same for SF. Kaos' mother was a great character, IMO. She felt evil in te game and should ave been the primary villain instead of Kaos. Hopefully we'll see more of her.


I was very, VERY disappointed, with Hugo being put in the back seat after SSA. He had a lot of potential (I even made a fan theory about Hugo being a secret Portal Master in training). Cali begs for more development, I'd like to see her relationship with Flynn have some development as well, that's all I have to say about those two.

The games could, I think, could get a little darker. The series over all is kinda like the Adventure Time of video games (Crazy characters, bizarre world with little to no humans. TfB looks like it wanted to go in that direction with Giants using the Wilikin. I wanna what this "Big hurry" the Wilikin were talking about and why they're are so good at making guns. I'm also pretty sure that the Troll mentioned in Kaos' Kastle didn't just fall in.

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I would love to see the Undead Dragon King, Malefor as the new antagonist for Skylanders 4. Seriously it would be SO awesome.

I'm sure other fans would love to see that happen, they mention that Malefor would return one day after Hex defeated him.

Yes. Maybe 's new plan could be to raise ?

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I hope we don't need a new portal. I already have 4!!!

i also already have 3 portals

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Hopefully they will stop rushing their games and have the next one released in 2016, they always rush their games and release them too early.

That's why they are alternating developers - to give each game more cooking time....

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Yes. Maybe 's new plan could be to raise ?

It would be neat if Kaos did that, and then Malefor took over... perhaps Kaos would even need to come to the Skylanders for help.

But the game has been in production for a year now, so likely the plot is already set.

Oh yes, great news.

Possible ideas for what would be awesome new figure types:

Removable accessories that appear in game (projectile weapons for every figure)

Removable organs such as a heart and brain for Stump Smash

Play doh Stump Smash

Gigantic Stump Smash

Sea monkey Stump Smash living toy

Battle Mech Stump Smash - Tech & Life elements together

En fuego Stump Smash - Fire & Life elements together

Stump Smash encased in ice - Life & Water combo

Magic Tree - Stump Smash Magic/Life combo

3-4 player mode, ie. 3-4 stump smash mode

online battling, ie. 1v1 my stump smash bro

1st person deathmatch mode (with the new accessory weapons) ie. become Stump Smash mode

Wings accessory for Stump Smash. Flying trees.

Stump Smash mobile. So he can drag race with Hot Head and Fryno

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I liked fighting Kaos, Robot Kaos, and "Super Evil" Kaos. BUT I think the next one will be a prequel. Maybe Arkeyan-era when Kaos wasn't even a twinkle in his mother's eye. Mark my words. Prequel or time travel to the past.

Remember it's a kids game. Not once have I heard my kids complain about character development or script.
I have nothing against Flynn, Cali or Kaos. I think they all fit the game well. Maybe it is time for a new enemy though.

I like the time travel idea, the Skylanders going back to help defeat the Arkeyans. What I want MOST in the next game is more "platforming". I had hoped with jump that there would be more to the game than the odd bit of block pushing but seriously?

The whole game was reduced to some button mashing and about 20 seconds worth of block pushing. I know it's a hard line to walk with it being a kids game they have to make it work for kids, especially younger ones who tend to walk off the edge a lot.
I feel the "Swap-ability" was completely ignored. They made nothing of that in game. You could super glue the figures together and never notice the difference in game. There should have been levels where you could climb with climb swappers to get to some hidden extra. Or underground hidden rooms you had to dig too.

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Remember it's a kids game. Not once have I heard my kids complain about character development or script.
I have nothing against Flynn, Cali or Kaos. I think they all fit the game well. Maybe it is time for a new enemy though.

I like the time travel idea, the Skylanders going back to help defeat the Arkeyans. What I want MOST in the next game is more "platforming". I had hoped with jump that there would be more to the game than the odd bit of block pushing but seriously?

The whole game was reduced to some button mashing and about 20 seconds worth of block pushing. I know it's a hard line to walk with it being a kids game they have to make it work for kids, especially younger ones who tend to walk off the edge a lot.
I feel the "Swap-ability" was completely ignored. They made nothing of that in game. You could super glue the figures together and never notice the difference in game. There should have been levels where you could climb with climb swappers to get to some hidden extra. Or underground hidden rooms you had to dig too.

And the reason why none of the things YOU asked for will be included is because it was a kid's game. See how that comment is a double-edged sword? It escapes responsibility.

Maybe it's time for a toys to life game for adults.

i bet skylanders4 will have online co-op/multiplayer as its gimmick...

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i bet skylanders4 will have online co-op/multiplayer as its gimmick...

Won't be good enough....it will have to be both online AND a toy innovation. Infinity Online will be over a year old by then-they will only be catching up.

Dare I say---they will actually have to work on CONTENT and overall BETTER gameplay? Ring in 12 chapters next year and I won't spend a dime.

Also, based on SF--if patches aren't supported and updated content isn't viable...I won't be bothered.

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If they make us all buy new portals of power again, it's just plain greed on Activision's part in making money...at the end of the day, we're all padding the pockets of the guys making these games and have to draw a line somewhere as to what we'll accept for future games. I'm done with the franchise if they require us to buy another portal for the new game.

I seriously doubt they make money on the portals. The second game gave the option not to buy one. The 3rd game couldn't do the swapping without a new portal, so a portal owners pack wasn't an option. There's nothing nefarious about it. A new video game usually costs $60. For $15 extra dollars (in the US anyway) you get Swap Force and 3 guys that sold separately would have set you back around $40. That's not even including the portal. So how you imagine they are making a mint on the portal I'm not sure.

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If they make us all buy new portals of power again, it's just plain greed on Activision's part in making money...at the end of the day, we're all padding the pockets of the guys making these games and have to draw a line somewhere as to what we'll accept for future games. I'm done with the franchise if they require us to buy another portal for the new game.

I seriously doubt they make money on the portals. The second game gave the option not to buy one. The 3rd game couldn't do the swapping without a new portal, so a portal owners pack wasn't an option. There's nothing nefarious about it. A new video game usually costs $60. For $15 extra dollars (in the US anyway) you get Swap Force and 3 guys that sold separately would have set you back around $40. That's not even including the portal. So how you imagine they are making a mint on the portal I'm not sure.

It would be nice as a whole to allow ALL games moving forward to make the purchase of JUST THE GAME an option. We still have enough portals. And if someone new starts in Swap Force, why must they buy a portal for the first game? It just makes good sense depending on when someone enters the franchise.

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I had hoped with jump that there would be more to the game than the odd bit of block pushing but seriously?

I'd like more, but I expect less. TFB didn't want it in the game, I doubt they would expand it's role.
And to be fair, my niece already has a hell of a time in SSF - the water-wheel cogs, heaven help me.

* Get Rid of the 'old' Cheiftess *

So... still no word on a new "Spyro" or "Crash"?

Lame...

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So... still no word on a new "Spyro" or "Crash"?

Lame...

FIRST: IT WAS A FAN MADE RUMOR SAYING IF SKYLANDERS DOES WELL WE WILL GET A NEW SPYRO GAME
SECOND THAT CRASH SITE WAS FAKE
on topic
Yayyy

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Skylanders: Swap Force engine built with next-gen in mind

It follows Activision’s press release on the matter, stating that the game runs at 1080p native on both PS4 and Xbox One. The revelation comes from the pages of OXM, during which Wilson said that the game’s engine was, “always built with next-gen in mind. This tech allows the team to produce, “volumetric water, dynamic lighting with ambient occlusion, physics, high levels of antialiasing/anisotropic filtering, and the biggie – parallax occlusion mapping, a cutting edge effect used to procedurally create 3D definition in textured surfaces.”

The what-what in the what-now?

Either way, it’s nice to know that Skylanders is getting some next-gen love ahead of the Xbox One launch, seeing as it always sells gangbusters.

link:
http://www.vg247.com/2013/11/1...tech-discussed/


if there is a skylanders4 for the old wii, it will be worse than it have been with swap force... its all nextgen now.

Guys, don't expect a Wii port.
Wii owners were lucky enough to get a Swap Force version.

Wii is dying and even Nintendo is starting to phase out support. The only wii that will be sold now is Wii Mini, which lacks any form of network support or backwards compatibility.
I personally do not see a Wii version of Skylanders 4 happening at all. PS3 and Xbox 360 are still going to happen, because both Sony and Microsoft sell those consoles like hotcakes.

Nintendo only sells the Wii in the states, they've stopped everywhere else.
-Unreall

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Nintendo only sells the Wii in the states, they've stopped everywhere else.
-Unreall

Wrong, they still sell it in Australia and Canada.

Sorry for DP but to also say about the Wii version, take into consideration that it was developed by an entirely different company than the other versions. Also, if you played any beenox games, this is not a surprise. Most of their games are utter garbage.

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Yes. Maybe 's new plan could be to raise ?

It would be neat if Kaos did that, and then Malefor took over... perhaps Kaos would even need to come to the Skylanders for help.

But the game has been in production for a year now, so likely the plot is already set.

It would be neat plot though.

I probably won't buy it, i just like modifying the figures.

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Nintendo only sells the Wii in the states, they've stopped everywhere else.
-Unreall

Wrong, they still sell it in Australia and Canada.

Not to mention all the unlicensed vendors in China and Thailand to a lesser extent. And brand new, too (though normally pre-hacked).

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Nintendo only sells the Wii in the states, they've stopped everywhere else.
-Unreall

Wrong, they still sell it in Australia and Canada.

Yeah, because a total of three markets really amount to World Domination. And 'having units on the shelves still!' doesn't truly count as 'Actively making, shipping, and advertising' a product. It's a 'dead' console that doesn't seem that way to a lot of people because it landed in so many homes and its successor has been purchased by 9 people (I'm one of them har har). No big name VG company is going to develop for the Wii, they only port to it because of its excessively large user base, but - as SWAP shows - its a "we can get this in more homes and make money off more figures if we dump it on this console" - more so than a sincere attempt at making a great Wii game.

At this point, if Capcom or Activision or EA release a game for the Wii - it is purely a cash grab, with little to no focus on 'high quality' product. It's an after thought akin to Nike throwing in an extra pair of shoe laces *different color) in the box when you buy some running shoes.

Don't get it twisted, I'm not saying its right, I'm not saying you can't enjoy those games, I'm just trying to explain the gauge of expectations you should have. If it was done on the old engine - then you an expect similar quality, but all new work? You can compare it to the 3DS version.
- Unreall

what if kaos dad will be the villian this time

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what if kaos dad will be the villian this time

Uh, no

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what if kaos dad will be the villian this time

Uh, no

ull never know i has plans

I am excited!

Not that exited they just need to wait a few years, serously they are just taking it too far... but if they are going to stop making the Wii version then they should make a PC version so Wii users can still play it on PC so that they are not left out.

You guys say that they should stop releasing them for a few years, but these games just don't have enough stuff to keep you involved for more then a year.
If they wanted to do that, they'd have to do something CRAZY for Skylanders 4, like:

16 New Cores
16 New Swappers
16 New Giants which actually do something other then feats of strength and opening boxes.
8 Series 4
16 Series 3
8 Series 2
8 New LightCores
6 Adventure/Level Packs which include 2 Chapters with 4 levels each and 2 magic items. No figures.
6 Battle Packs which include 2 Figures, 2 arenas and a new Minigame.

And, have a 30~Chapter game with arenas and ONLINE content.
Then, we'd need something like 1 Battle Pack and/or 1 Adventure Pack PER MONTH until the next game is released.
THEN we're settled for 2 years or so.
Oh, and PATCHES for the darn games!
Also since we'd have a good 88 Characters+12 Adventure/Battle Packs, with surprise ones coming after.

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[sarcasm coming up]

let me guess, the main villian this time is KAOS????

I NEVER saw this coming!!!!!!!!!!

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You guys say that they should stop releasing them for a few years, but these games just don't have enough stuff to keep you involved for more then a year.
If they wanted to do that, they'd have to do something CRAZY for Skylanders 4, like:

16 New Cores
16 New Swappers
16 New Giants which actually do something other then feats of strength and opening boxes.
8 Series 4
16 Series 3
8 Series 2
8 New LightCores
6 Adventure/Level Packs which include 2 Chapters with 4 levels each and 2 magic items. No figures.
6 Battle Packs which include 2 Figures, 2 arenas and a new Minigame.

And, have a 30~Chapter game with arenas and ONLINE content.
Then, we'd need something like 1 Battle Pack and/or 1 Adventure Pack PER MONTH until the next game is released.
THEN we're settled for 2 years or so.
Oh, and PATCHES for the darn games!
Also since we'd have a good 88 Characters+12 Adventure/Battle Packs, with surprise ones coming after.

A man can dream, can't he?