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Personally, I don't mind buying the same game twice(in fact, I have all the versions of Pokémon), but it is an issue with Skylanders when a completed collection costs upwards of $300 and you can't control yourself.

Pokémon, Mario, Zelda etc. do have pretty much the same gameplay with several subtle tweaks- but you don't need more than subtle tweaks most of the time. To be honest, I can't remember any game sequel that HAS wowed me for having lots of additions... But I love them because they refine the formula of the older games to brilliance and actually give the adventure a new feel. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is my favourite game of all time, and that was pretty much a rehash of the first game, but they did add a few new things and changed some old things that I didn't like, and that made the game even better... Boy, that's saying a lot with how fantastic Galaxy was.

Gameplay is important- and if you get it wrong, your game is a failure as a game- but just because they don't change gameplay or add on things, it doesn't mean that the game is the same, the worlds and stories are also a huge part of what can make a game good.
I love Pokémon because it gives me a sense of adventure. The gameplay is still virtually the same after all these years, but learning about new Pokémon, exploring new regions and making new friends throughout my travels all add to the sense of adventure, which is why I still play it. They add new worlds to explore and new Pokémon you can meet- which is changing the adventures you go on. Pokémon is an experience in that way. You can't just embrace gameplay, embrace the worlds the games make, otherwise you won't notice how they've really changed things. Want different gameplay? I don't mean to sound mean, but then play a different game! That's what we have 'em for.

You can say any game sequel has pretty much the same gameplay with a few tweaks, honestly, I can't think of one that didn't. I can nitpick any game sequel and just say it changed a few things or any story and say it's basically just a remix of that trope, or say how any innovation or invention is something that only adds to the experience in X way, but really, I'd just realise how pointless buying anything is after that.

Yeah though, personally, I was most upset that they took out walking Pokémon because that made me bond with them more. But hey, they added Pokémon-Amie so I'm cool with it now.

The stores may be a bit more crowded since October 13th is also the same day that Disney (by no coincidence I am sure) has decided to release the next wave of Infinity figures/playsets. I think the crowds will be exacerbated by the fact that a lot of stores have the Skylanders & Infinity figures on competing aisles across from one another.

Sigh.

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See for me I kind of agree with Arc. It's not what you change but what you make better. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Pokemon has a tried and try system that has had several additions that have made it stand the test of time. I don't want them to change the battle system of the way I collect and train Pokemon...Although this new training system looks 1000000 times better than the E.V. (Effort Values for those that don't know) system. lol remember when TM's were consumables...that sucked. That's just one example of a welcome change. The hot key/short cut menu, way better map, C-Gear, and many more. I personally feel Swap Force is to Skylanders what X Y is to Pokemon. Granted that's hard to see given Skylanders much shorter life span but I believe both games are making huge transitions to better their overall playability and quality of life.

As a rule the market for Pokemon and the market for Skylanders isn't the same. I doubt it'll be an issue.

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Not really. Pokemon is just a game; Skylanders is a whole action figure series AND a game.

(I know, Pokemon has figures, but most of them are just boring, static figures.)

Oh god, someone insulted Pokemon, time to bring out the defense.

Pokemon is more than a "game", Pokemon is a powerhouse. How have they managed to stay alive for near 15 Years if it is just a game huh? I expect one more Skylander game then done. Not everyone wants to spend 10.00 on one figure with like 12 Powers and 20 levels, why not get one game for 40.00, but have over 700, each on with 100+ Powers and 100 Levels? And the eight badges you collect,not to mention all the story line and plot. Skylanders is just: Find Kaos, beat him, yay! Nothing aftergame really. Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory. At least Pokemon has replay value. How can one game with like 20 Levels, and rip-offs like Dark Skylanders, compete with pokemon? And the arguement: "oh they have figures, they win" Let's see, they have collectibale cards, plushes, and even figures, and even something like Skylanders. SKylanders did not invent the "game that connects with figures that have chips", no. Pokemon is and always will be better than Skylanders.

I agree that Pokémon is better and Skylanders didn't invent the Toys to Life Idea, but its not that much better.

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Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory

That's basically ALL Pokémon is, they've been doing the same routine for the last 15 years. The Story and Gameplay remain almost exactly the same for each of their games, with few significant improvements and light changes. Some of the games such as Emerald & Platinum have so little changes that they feel more like upgrades to their sister games rather than actual sequels (imo at least), much like Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge.

As for the replay value, better than Skylanders, but still a tad disappointing. All you basically unlock is finding older Pokémon in the Wild (not very many of them either), migration of Pokémon from the current game's predecessors, stronger rivals, and Battle Frontier.

So basically, Pokémon is cool and all but it lathers, rinses, and repeats its games too much; much like Mario or Call of Duty games. I wish they would make one game with several changes that are actually significant:

- Brand New Story
- A faster, quicker way of Grinding exp
- Better, Unique Boss Fights
- Something to do with your Pokémon that doesn't involve battling (Like Skylanders Heroic Challenges, it gets old after doing it for the 100th time)
- More Maps and Areas than just one region
- NO MORE EXTRA VERSIONS!!!! Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, BW2. If they must upgrade the current games, they should turn them into DLCs or Updates instead of remaking the same Game for another $35 or $40 with a new save file. Technology has now evolved, this stuff is not cool anymore.

I will still play Pokémon through my Life though.

You make great points! I would like to point out some stuff though:
- Well, each gen is "new", but it is kind of the same basis, I see what you mean.
- They have added this actually, it is horde battles, also EXP goes to all of your party now.
- Gym Leaders and E4 is sort of this.
- Pokemon-Amie is a fun new way to become better friends and care for them, along with Super-Training, a new mini game.
- Well, this gen they are including a ton of old Pokemon.
- This one I have to disagree on. It is basically an update yes, but all of them do it. Like iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5, Xbox 360 -> Xbox One, Wii -> Wii U. See what I mean? These ones are usually the best and after a year of waiting for them, I think you'll have saved up 40$ by then Unlike Skylanders which can cost up to like 500$ over the course of one year. In two years, spending 120$ is eons away.

Plus Pokemon has Chesnaught

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Oh god, someone insulted Pokemon, time to bring out the defense.

Pokemon is more than a "game", Pokemon is a powerhouse. How have they managed to stay alive for near 15 Years if it is just a game huh? I expect one more Skylander game then done. Not everyone wants to spend 10.00 on one figure with like 12 Powers and 20 levels, why not get one game for 40.00, but have over 700, each on with 100+ Powers and 100 Levels? And the eight badges you collect,not to mention all the story line and plot. Skylanders is just: Find Kaos, beat him, yay! Nothing aftergame really. Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory. At least Pokemon has replay value. How can one game with like 20 Levels, and rip-offs like Dark Skylanders, compete with pokemon? And the arguement: "oh they have figures, they win" Let's see, they have collectibale cards, plushes, and even figures, and even something like Skylanders. SKylanders did not invent the "game that connects with figures that have chips", no. Pokemon is and always will be better than Skylanders.

I agree that Pokémon is better and Skylanders didn't invent the Toys to Life Idea, but its not that much better.

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Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory

That's basically ALL

I will still play Pokémon through my Life though.

You make great points! I would like to point out some stuff though:
- Well, each gen is "new", but it is kind of the same basis, I see what you mean.
- They have added this actually, it is horde battles, also EXP goes to all of your party now.
- Gym Leaders and E4 is sort of this.
- Pokemon-Amie is a fun new way to become better friends and care for them, along with Super-Training, a new mini game.
- Well, this gen they are including a ton of old Pokemon.
- This one I have to disagree on. It is basically an update yes, but all of them do it. Like iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5, Xbox 360 -> Xbox One, Wii -> Wii U. See what I mean? These ones are usually the best and after a year of waiting for them, I think you'll have saved up 40$ by then Unlike Skylanders which can cost up to like 500$ over the course of one year. In two years, spending 120$ is eons away.

Plus Pokemon has Chesnaught

I should point out my takes too:

- I'm well aware of both horde battles and exp all. However, I should've mentioned that I meant a way to grind that again, doesn't involve battling. Grinding is kinda time consuming post-game and gets old quick, and I feel like switching to another game for a little bit.
- Gyms and E4 aren't all that unique. To me, they're just normal battles with above-normal difficulty and they heal their Pokémon, whoopee!!!

I was thinking of adding a boss fight with a creature or object that is not a Pokémon, like a Space Alien or a Tank. This is the kind of stuff it would have:

- Exclusive Moves and Abilities that Pokémon can't have. It could even have 2 or more abilities, where Pokémon only get one.
- Since its not a Pokémon, its not in the Pokedex and is completely unobtainable.
- Could Steal Items from your Bag
- Requires a certain Pokémon or conditions in order to be fought or defeated.
- Can be fought again at any time through a Boss Run Mode.

etc.

- Pokémon-Amie is like a virtual pet game, I don't really like Virtual Pet games to be honest and I have little interest in this new Game Mode. To me, Heartgold and Soulsilver are the best Pokémon games: Only because of the Olympic Games and Pokewalker. I wanted minigames where Pokémon have different stats and behave differently, such as Basketball with Squirtle or something. But hey, at least Pokémon-Amie is not Battling! I guess I'll give it a chance.

- The Pokémon are the least of my worries, I'm a little focused more on the regions they came from rather than they, themselves. But I guess its still cool.

- Those are Technology Evolutions and Console Upgrades, not the game updates. Now that Technology has evolved, they don't really need to rehash their games with light changes anymore, they could just be DLCs instead for much cheaper. Or, they could also delay the release of their games and spend more time on them to add new content, defeating the purpose of even having extra versions.

I hope one day (not gonna happen) they will make one game called Pokémon Rainbow with every region and Pokémon as a MMORPG.

EDIT: I added more arguments in opposition to yours (not trying to be rude or anything).

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I expect one more Skylander game then done.

I doubt it. Do you know how many toys they've sold and how successful this game was? Just because you and a couple of other people (including myself) don't like some things about the game doesn't mean everyone thinks so. I actually agree with you that Skylanders is far from perfection (and I do mean far), but tons of other people will continue buying the toys and games regardless of what you and I have to say.

Darkstalkers Ressurection is an Arcade Compilation of 2 classic arcade games in an attempt to revitalize the franchise, as it been put on hiatus for 15 years. To revive it though, it had to sell enough copies to prove that fans demanded for a sequel, about as many copies as Super Street Fighter IV. Unfortunately, Sales have been less than favorable and Capcom claims it was a commercial failure and as a result, they have no plans for a new game right now or in the future (which I thought, was bull**** for a ton of reasons).

Skylanders on the other hand has sold over 100 million toys right now and is a success. Why would they cancel it when its been so successful? Its all about the money.

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How can one game with like 20 Levels, and rip-offs like Dark Skylanders, compete with pokemon?

Again, over 100 million toys helps. They expect to sell 500 million by the end of the year. To be honest, I don't think they will sell that many toys but will come at least close, but I'm obviously not a fortune teller. Even then, the only true competition they have is Disney Infinity, we're going to see a great Battle between it and Skylanders SWAP Force. Although I wish the latter would win (I like Infinity a bit more), I believe Skylanders will come out victorious and remain the top seller, because they released their game first and the fanboys who (incorrectly) think Disney copied them.


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Let's see, they have collectibale cards, plushes, and even figures, and even something like Skylanders

Seems like you're talking about Pokémon Rumble U. The Rumble series is nowhere near as Popular as the Main Series Games and has only Average reviews from Critics, its not considered to be a very good game by many. Plus, its a Wii U only game and has less distribution.

I'm pretty sure earlier in the year (feb) there were rumours of a pokemon rainbow game for Wii u which is a MMORPG. That was way back so I don't know now but you might be onto something

I have a feeling I won't like the horde battles, it seems a little unfair when you get attacked 6 times in a row, but hey, as long as weaker pkmn show up I'm fine. It's really odd they haven't released all the new Pokemon yet, 6 days left and still nothing about everyone else, in Gen 5 everyone was known about by now. A bit odd Nintendo.

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I have a feeling I won't like the horde battles, it seems a little unfair when you get attacked 6 times in a row, but hey, as long as weaker pkmn show up I'm fine. It's really odd they haven't released all the new Pokemon yet, 6 days left and still nothing about everyone else, in Gen 5 everyone was known about by now. A bit odd Nintendo.

Ehh I'm o.k. with this. A few surprises in game are kind of fun. Horde battles look awesome. Abilities like Rock Slide and Surf will be o.p.

Don't SSF comes out Thanksgiving weekend for us Canadians! I personally have a long weekend, since Maverick crime has gone down, I get a day off on Friday, plus Monday is a holiday, meaning I'll have more time to play Swap Force!

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I agree that Pokémon is better and Skylanders didn't invent the Toys to Life Idea, but its not that much better.

That's basically ALL Pokémon is, they've been doing the same routine for the last 15 years. The Story and Gameplay remain almost exactly the same for each of their games, with few significant improvements and light changes.

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Some of the games such as Emerald & Platinum have so little changes that they feel more like upgrades to their sister games rather than actual sequels (imo at least), much like Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge.

^ That's exactly what Emerald and Platinum were. They were basically upgraded remakes of the original two and that's what Pokemon was going for. In some ways they were special editions of the originals which included some additional bells and whistles as well as a bit more in story line. Infact, Yellow was even called the 'special pikachu edition'.


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As for the replay value, better than Skylanders, but still a tad disappointing. All you basically unlock is finding older Pokémon in the Wild (not very many of them either), migration of Pokémon from the current game's predecessors, stronger rivals, and Battle Frontier.

So basically, Pokémon is cool and all but it lathers, rinses, and repeats its games too much; much like Mario or Call of Duty games. I wish they would make one game with several changes that are actually significant:

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- Brand New Story

Yeah, each new gen has a new story. White and Black also had an different Story than the others, B2&W2 difenitly did.

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- A faster, quicker way of Grinding exp
- Better, Unique Boss Fights

*shrug*


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- Something to do with your Pokémon that doesn't involve battling (Like Skylanders Heroic Challenges, it gets old after doing it for the 100th time)

Let's see... Pokemon Contests, Battle Frontier, Pokemon Musical, Pokethalon, all say hello. Infact, there's even some new things in X&Y coming out.

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- More Maps and Areas than just one region

Granted, though pointing out that Gold/Silver and their remakes had 2 regions kanto and Johto. Plus you have to remember, memory space on the game.


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- NO MORE EXTRA VERSIONS!!!! Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, BW2. If they must upgrade the current games, they should turn them into DLCs or Updates instead of remaking the same Game for another $35 or $40 with a new save file. Technology has now evolved, this stuff is not cool anymore.

First off, Black 2 and White 2 are not 'extra versions'. They are down right sequels to the first ones. And when I say sequel I don't mean like the '3rd version' that I explained earlier that are not sequels but are remakes/special editions. See BW2 have a different story, takes place 2 years in furture of the first one. So yeah they aren't extra versions, they're sequels. Besides, that, I do kind of agree with you. I prefer a new region or even like firered and Heart Gold and what not as they were up to current gen remakes and what not.

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I will still play Pokémon through my Life though.

Me too.


Now back on topic. Admitilly, I do think having them come out a day apart. I mean yeah that makes it easier to get them both... if you're like me and managed to acumulate the money. But it would of been nicer if one was a little sooner, that way we could like play that while waiting on the other.

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^ That's exactly what Emerald and Platinum were. They were basically upgraded remakes of the original two and that's what Pokemon was going for. In some ways they were special editions of the originals which included some additional bells and whistles as well as a bit more in story line. Infact, Yellow was even called the 'special pikachu edition'.

I'm well aware. Point is though, this isn't necessary anymore and upgraded versions could now just be DLCs. Better yet, they could just move the Main Series games to Consoles.

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Yeah, each new gen has a new story. White and Black also had an different Story than the others, B2&W2 difenitly did.

New Story? No way!!! Each storyline is almost exactly the same in each gen:

- You're the same kid who abandons his mom and leaves home(and also does not live with his dad).
- Same Professor or Professor's Assistant who gives you your first Pokémon. Its also the same person who wants you to fill out the Pokedex for him/her.
- Same Criminal Organization with dreams of Stealing Pokémon or Taking Over the World
- Same 8 Gym Leaders you must Battle in order to get in the Pokémon League
- Same annoying Kid who lives next door and picks the Pokémon that would elementally beat yours and is your Rival
- Same 2 Legendary Pokémon Mascots for the Game you must encounter in some point that the Criminals want to take control of or something (does not apply to Gen 1).

So yeah, new Story? I think not.

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Let's see... Pokemon Contests, Battle Frontier, Pokemon Musical, Pokethalon, all say hello. Infact, there's even some new things in X&Y coming out.

Guess what? Once a New Game comes, all of those things say goodbye and get replaced by another. Guess that's why Pokeathlon isn't in BW or BW2, huh?

Contests and Musicals are terrible anyway (in my opinion), they don't have a lot of Minigames or depth like the Pokeathlon. Playing them for like 20 times gets old fast. None of these modes have Online Play either.

I have the same problem with Skylanders too. The gameplay focuses on Combat, Puzzles, and Little Else. There are only like 3 game modes (4 in Swap Force I believe), all of which have Great Flaws that stop them from being Fantastic.

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First off, Black 2 and White 2 are not 'extra versions'. They are down right sequels to the first ones. And when I say sequel I don't mean like the '3rd version' that I explained earlier that are not sequels but are remakes/special editions. See BW2 have a different story, takes place 2 years in furture of the first one. So yeah they aren't extra versions, they're sequels.

The Story is only Slightly different from the first, you're still the same kid (except you now have a ridiculous name, haircut, and clothing) who ditches mom and blah, blah, blah. The gameplay still hasn't received enough changes to feel different, other than the PWT and Link Connecting with BW1.

So basically, its just like a Pokémon version of Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge (really awesome game, very little known and underrated). Another game that's considered a sequel, but is more like an upgrade.

... oh wait i forgot this is a swapforce thread... was about to further debate you.... but if you'd perfer my reply to what you said... I'll pm it to you if you want.

Ugh, another war about POKEMON ON A SPYRO/SKYLANDERS WEBSITE. What's the point if this anyway? And if you are thinking "Well, this is just my two cents" or however it goes. This argument would total up to a lot of lost two cents if you don't quit now.

i dont think many peeps will buy pokemon rather then skylanders but i like its coming out on a sunday we get a day to play it before we go to school or work the next day. right?

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Ugh, another war about POKEMON ON A SPYRO/SKYLANDERS WEBSITE. What's the point if this anyway? And if you are thinking "Well, this is just my two cents" or however it goes. This argument would total up to a lot of lost two cents if you don't quit now.

At least it's more civilised than most of the arguments here. There isn't any name calling yet

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Ugh, another war about POKEMON ON A SPYRO/SKYLANDERS WEBSITE. What's the point if this anyway? And if you are thinking "Well, this is just my two cents" or however it goes. This argument would total up to a lot of lost two cents if you don't quit now.

^ I direct you to my own post just about yours.

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... oh wait i forgot this is a swapforce thread... was about to further debate you.... but if you'd perfer my reply to what you said... I'll pm it to you if you want.

Meaning, I am stopping now on it and I said pretty much what you said about not continuing it in the threads.

anyways, back on topic, October 13 works for me cuz like I said, I'll allready be going into town thanks to church, thus no extra trip to getting it. Though as I said in my first post in the thread, I wouldn't of minded if Pokemon X&Y came out sooner.

Well whaddaya know!? http://venturebeat.com/2013/11...-to-activision/

I guess this means he was right about Pokémon X and Y!

Maybe Hirshberg needs to reflect on the quality of the software as at least one data point to consider. There are a number of variables in their control they chose to ignore--like the fact their competitors had features they still don't have on the third generation....the fact that they aren't bringing enough value to lightcore and reposes...fewer levels...

The things they can't change....the economy....budgets...kids growing up....

He's clearly delusional on at least one data point:

“There are a couple things to remember,” said Hirshberg. “One, the vast majority of our sales for this game come in November and December. Two, we also have the best game in the franchise’s history. Three, the toy-attach rate is as high ever. And four, awareness and purchase intent is as strong as ever.”

I'll go with best LOOKING game...but does it play better?

Wow..This exploded.

I can't feel sorry for Activision. Some brilliant suit decided that it was a wise idea to actively try to compete with Pokemon. Their decision to release Swapforce one day after Pokemon X and Y was downright terrible marketing. Forcing kids to choose between their two favorite franchises, especially given that Skylanders is so much more expensive, was a set up for disastrous sales. There's a reason why Pokemon has been a sales juggernaut and THE iconic children's game for well over a decade, kiddos.

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I can't feel sorry for Activision. Some brilliant suit decided that it was a wise idea to actively try to compete with Pokemon. Their decision to release Swapforce one day after Pokemon X and Y was downright terrible marketing. Forcing kids to choose between their two favorite franchises, especially given that Skylanders is so much more expensive, was a set up for disastrous sales. There's a reason why Pokemon has been a sales juggernaut and THE iconic children's game for well over a decade, kiddos.

I agree with a lot of your points, I feel no sympathy towards Activision either. Why release SF a newer game right after the day of a more popular franchise that is sure to attract kids too, especially if yours will be a lot more expensive for parents to pay (they should pay more attention to the parents rather the kids)?

Not only that, but Disney is also competing with them and they knew from the beginning that they would have a new, already being confident that Skylanders would remain the top seller and were overall unfazed. As it turns out, DI has sold like 1 million starter packs in the US right now and is continuing to grow, Disney overall has more popular and recognizable brands than Activision will ever have. Monsters University, Wreck-It Ralph, Phineas & Ferb, etc. are undoubtedly more popular than Spyro the Dragon or any of his new weird-looking friends that are so new, they are sure to draw some kids away from Skylanders (not to mention having "Infinite" possibilities and doing a tad more advertising).

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I can't feel sorry for Activision. Some brilliant suit decided that it was a wise idea to actively try to compete with Pokemon. Their decision to release Swapforce one day after Pokemon X and Y was downright terrible marketing. Forcing kids to choose between their two favorite franchises, especially given that Skylanders is so much more expensive, was a set up for disastrous sales. There's a reason why Pokemon has been a sales juggernaut and THE iconic children's game for well over a decade, kiddos.

I agree with a lot of your points, I feel no sympathy towards Activision either. Why release SF a newer game right after the day of a more popular franchise that is sure to attract kids too, especially if yours will be a lot more expensive for parents to pay (they should pay more attention to the parents rather the kids)?

Not only that, but Disney is also competing with them and they knew from the beginning that they would have a new, already being confident that Skylanders would remain the top seller and were overall unfazed. As it turns out, DI has sold like 1 million starter packs in the US right now and is continuing to grow, Disney overall has more popular and recognizable brands than Activision will ever have. Monsters University, Wreck-It Ralph, Phineas & Ferb, etc. are undoubtedly more popular than Spyro the Dragon or any of his new weird-looking friends that are so new, they are sure to draw some kids away from Skylanders (not to mention having "Infinite" possibilities and doing a tad more advertising).

Yes but D.I. also has one thing that Skylanders doesn't have...the ability to piss off your players when they realize that a bunch of their favorite figures are only usable in a portion of the game. Skylanders are usable in every part of the game. D.I. can't say the same thing and they don't make it very obvious either. The nail in the coffin for me was finding out Wreck it Ralph wasn't getting a play set...WTF it's a movie franchise based on a video game???!111?!!!?!!/11/1!?1!?!!1/1/1/1?!! I would have gotten rid of D.I. if my daughter didn't like to play it from time to time.

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I can't feel sorry for Activision. Some brilliant suit decided that it was a wise idea to actively try to compete with Pokemon. Their decision to release Swapforce one day after Pokemon X and Y was downright terrible marketing. Forcing kids to choose between their two favorite franchises, especially given that Skylanders is so much more expensive, was a set up for disastrous sales. There's a reason why Pokemon has been a sales juggernaut and THE iconic children's game for well over a decade, kiddos.

I agree with a lot of your points, I feel no sympathy towards Activision either. Why release SF a newer game right after the day of a more popular franchise that is sure to attract kids too, especially if yours will be a lot more expensive for parents to pay (they should pay more attention to the parents rather the kids)?

Not only that, but Disney is also competing with them and they knew from the beginning that they would have a new, already being confident that Skylanders would remain the top seller and were overall unfazed. As it turns out, DI has sold like 1 million starter packs in the US right now and is continuing to grow, Disney overall has more popular and recognizable brands than Activision will ever have. Monsters University, Wreck-It Ralph, Phineas & Ferb, etc. are undoubtedly more popular than Spyro the Dragon or any of his new weird-looking friends that are so new, they are sure to draw some kids away from Skylanders (not to mention having "Infinite" possibilities and doing a tad more advertising).

Yes but D.I. also has one thing that Skylanders doesn't have...the ability to piss off your players when they realize that a bunch of their favorite figures are only usable in a portion of the game. Skylanders are usable in every part of the game. D.I. can't say the same thing and they don't make it very obvious either. The nail in the coffin for me was finding out Wreck it Ralph wasn't getting a play set...WTF it's a movie franchise based on a video game???!111?!!!?!!/11/1!?1!?!!1/1/1/1?!! I would have gotten rid of D.I. if my daughter didn't like to play it from time to time.

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Skylanders are usable in every part of the game.

Every part of the game? That's not exactly true.

1. Normal Skylanders can't go in SWAP Force Zones, which is pretty much the same as Characters without Playsets in D.I. (except they are smaller and do not last as long).

2. If you die, you cannot use that Skylander again for the rest of the level unless you restart or exit it, there isn't any way to revive yourself sadly. Why can't I just pay 200 gold at a shop so I can revive my Rip Tide and go back in battle without having to restart? I know this doesn't really count as a locked location, but its still pretty similar and I thought it'd be worth nothing.

3. You need a Tech Skylander to unlock this gate!

4. Soul Gems, would you like to preview Punk Shock *selects No*? Not a location, but Soul Gems are obviously advertisements to try and get you unlock that figurine. This would be cool if you could just unlock him/her for free later on in the game, but the ugly truth is that you have to pay $10 to get him/her at a store, you might not even be able to find him without using the internet. Not a "part" of the game you refer to, but its still locked content.

And personally, I don't really mind Characters being unusable in some Playsets, the Toy Box is the main reason I would play the game anyway and they all still work there. The only reason the Playsets locking characters does bother me is because you need to buy another figure to use 2 Player mode in that playset. Even then, I am an only child and the only person I play it with is my little cousin when she visits, where she just wants to play Minecraft because of her obsession for it (I think Minecraft is overrated, the most Overrated game of all time ). So I just play by myself most of the time.

Despite what that fool BahamutBreaker (and a few other fanboys) believes, I still like both games anyway and I think they had potential that has been wasted (mostly with Skylanders to be honest though).

Skylanders needs a longer story and to focus more on the gameplay than the toy collecting, I'm getting tired of the Soul Gems and stuff advertising in my face; I'm not gonna say all the flaws that bother me cuz I already said it and some you already know why (even if you don't, it'll be WAY too long of a message).

D.I. needs more gameplay differences between its characters, remove grinding for all the Spins, and fix its numerous glitches. Luckily they're still developing it and working on the glitches, going as far to cancel some Iron Man Star Wars games so they can polish D.I.

They're both good, but my Games of the Year remain to be Pokémon X and Darkstalkers Ressurection.

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I agree with a lot of your points, I feel no sympathy towards Activision either. Why release SF a newer game right after the day of a more popular franchise that is sure to attract kids too, especially if yours will be a lot more expensive for parents to pay (they should pay more attention to the parents rather the kids)?

Not only that, but Disney is also competing with them and they knew from the beginning that they would have a new, already being confident that Skylanders would remain the top seller and were overall unfazed. As it turns out, DI has sold like 1 million starter packs in the US right now and is continuing to grow, Disney overall has more popular and recognizable brands than Activision will ever have. Monsters University, Wreck-It Ralph, Phineas & Ferb, etc. are undoubtedly more popular than Spyro the Dragon or any of his new weird-looking friends that are so new, they are sure to draw some kids away from Skylanders (not to mention having "Infinite" possibilities and doing a tad more advertising).

Yes but D.I. also has one thing that Skylanders doesn't have...the ability to piss off your players when they realize that a bunch of their favorite figures are only usable in a portion of the game. Skylanders are usable in every part of the game. D.I. can't say the same thing and they don't make it very obvious either. The nail in the coffin for me was finding out Wreck it Ralph wasn't getting a play set...WTF it's a movie franchise based on a video game???!111?!!!?!!/11/1!?1!?!!1/1/1/1?!! I would have gotten rid of D.I. if my daughter didn't like to play it from time to time.

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Skylanders are usable in every part of the game.

Every part of the game? That's not exactly true.

1. Normal Skylanders can't go in SWAP Force Zones, which is pretty much the same as Characters without Playsets in D.I. (except they are smaller and do not last as long).

2. If you die, you cannot use that Skylander again for the rest of the level unless you restart or exit it, there isn't any way to revive yourself sadly. Why can't I just pay 200 gold at a shop so I can revive my Rip Tide and go back in battle without having to restart? I know this doesn't really count as a locked location, but its still pretty similar and I thought it'd be worth nothing.

3. You need a Tech Skylander to unlock this gate!

4. Soul Gems, would you like to preview Punk Shock *selects No*? Not a location, but Soul Gems are obviously advertisements to try and get you unlock that figurine. This would be cool if you could just unlock him/her for free later on in the game, but the ugly truth is that you have to pay $10 to get him/her at a store, you might not even be able to find him without using the internet. Not a "part" of the game you refer to, but its still locked content.

And personally, I don't really mind Characters being unusable in some Playsets, the Toy Box is the main reason I would play the game anyway and they all still work there. The only reason the Playsets locking characters does bother me is because you need to buy another figure to use 2 Player mode in that playset. Even then, I am an only child and the only person I play it with is my little cousin when she visits, where she just wants to play Minecraft because of her obsession for it (I think Minecraft is overrated, the most Overrated game of all time ). So I just play by myself most of the time.

Despite what that fool BahamutBreaker (and a few other fanboys) believes, I still like both games anyway and I think they had potential that has been wasted (mostly with Skylanders to be honest though).

Skylanders needs a longer story and to focus more on the gameplay than the toy collecting, I'm getting tired of the Soul Gems and stuff advertising in my face; I'm not gonna say all the flaws that bother me cuz I already said it and some you already know why (even if you don't, it'll be WAY too long of a message).

D.I. needs more gameplay differences between its characters, remove grinding for all the Spins, and fix its numerous glitches. Luckily they're still developing it and working on the glitches, going as far to cancel some Iron Man Star Wars games so they can polish D.I.

They're both good, but my Games of the Year remain to be Pokémon X and Darkstalkers Ressurection.

Di is boring glitchy and just not worth it they have only 5 more characters left skylanders has 4 times more than that and di story's are short took me 2 hours to finish mu
You can also change to a different character after you open any gate (not swapzones)

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LightSpyro ... you don't like Skylanders and you think Disney Infinity is a better product.

We get it.

Now please go away forever.

Thank you.

Stop being immature, and thats saying alot coming from me.

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Yes but D.I. also has one thing that Skylanders doesn't have...the ability to piss off your players when they realize that a bunch of their favorite figures are only usable in a portion of the game. Skylanders are usable in every part of the game. D.I. can't say the same thing and they don't make it very obvious either. The nail in the coffin for me was finding out Wreck it Ralph wasn't getting a play set...WTF it's a movie franchise based on a video game???!111?!!!?!!/11/1!?1!?!!1/1/1/1?!! I would have gotten rid of D.I. if my daughter didn't like to play it from time to time.

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Skylanders are usable in every part of the game.

Every part of the game? That's not exactly true.

1. Normal Skylanders can't go in SWAP Force Zones, which is pretty much the same as Characters without Playsets in D.I. (except they are smaller and do not last as long).

2. If you die, you cannot use that Skylander again for the rest of the level unless you restart or exit it, there isn't any way to revive yourself sadly. Why can't I just pay 200 gold at a shop so I can revive my Rip Tide and go back in battle without having to restart? I know this doesn't really count as a locked location, but its still pretty similar and I thought it'd be worth nothing.

3. You need a Tech Skylander to unlock this gate!

4. Soul Gems, would you like to preview Punk Shock *selects No*? Not a location, but Soul Gems are obviously advertisements to try and get you unlock that figurine. This would be cool if you could just unlock him/her for free later on in the game, but the ugly truth is that you have to pay $10 to get him/her at a store, you might not even be able to find him without using the internet. Not a "part" of the game you refer to, but its still locked content.

And personally, I don't really mind Characters being unusable in some Playsets, the Toy Box is the main reason I would play the game anyway and they all still work there. The only reason the Playsets locking characters does bother me is because you need to buy another figure to use 2 Player mode in that playset. Even then, I am an only child and the only person I play it with is my little cousin when she visits, where she just wants to play Minecraft because of her obsession for it (I think Minecraft is overrated, the most Overrated game of all time ). So I just play by myself most of the time.

Despite what that fool BahamutBreaker (and a few other fanboys) believes, I still like both games anyway and I think they had potential that has been wasted (mostly with Skylanders to be honest though).

Skylanders needs a longer story and to focus more on the gameplay than the toy collecting, I'm getting tired of the Soul Gems and stuff advertising in my face; I'm not gonna say all the flaws that bother me cuz I already said it and some you already know why (even if you don't, it'll be WAY too long of a message).

D.I. needs more gameplay differences between its characters, remove grinding for all the Spins, and fix its numerous glitches. Luckily they're still developing it and working on the glitches, going as far to cancel some Iron Man Star Wars games so they can polish D.I.

They're both good, but my Games of the Year remain to be Pokémon X and Darkstalkers Ressurection.

Di is boring glitchy and just not worth it they have only 5 more characters left skylanders has 4 times more than that and di story's are short took me 2 hours to finish mu
You can also change to a different character after you open any gate (not swapzones)

1. That's your opinion, not a fact. To me it was totally worth it and I love it more than Skylanders, even if you or anyone else doesn't.

2. And just because Skylanders has more characters doesn't mean it is good, some of them are pretty bad and lame. Warnado *cough* *cough*. One of the problems I have with Skylanders is that there are TOO MANY characters. 80 Skylanders? No thank you.

Disney Infinity still has 8 more figurines to release, not 5.

3. Skylanders story is just as short as one playset if not shorter, there are only 24 levels in the first game, 16 in the 2nd, and 12 in the 3rd (Boss chapters don't count). There are a total of 3 playsets in the starter pack that could take longer.

4. Skylanders Giants has a ton of glitches too, plus the Wii version of SWAP Force freezes up frequently. To make matters worse, VV and TFB are already done developing the games and are already announcing another game for 2014, they aren't making any updates to fix anything.

Disney Interactive is still working on DI and will eventually fix the glicthes sooner or later in patches and updates, even going as far to cancel an Iron man Game and Star Wars Game to keep developing it.

5. I don't care that you can still switch after going into an elemental gate, you still have to have a skylander of that element or you are completely banned from going in. This kind of thing would be cool if a character like that could be unlocked later in the game for free (at least as a demo or free trial), but the ugly truth remains that you need to buy it for $10.

Try as you might, nothing you can say or do will change my opinion.

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Every part of the game? That's not exactly true.

1. Normal Skylanders can't go in SWAP Force Zones, which is pretty much the same as Characters without Playsets in D.I. (except they are smaller and do not last as long).

2. If you die, you cannot use that Skylander again for the rest of the level unless you restart or exit it, there isn't any way to revive yourself sadly. Why can't I just pay 200 gold at a shop so I can revive my Rip Tide and go back in battle without having to restart? I know this doesn't really count as a locked location, but its still pretty similar and I thought it'd be worth nothing.

3. You need a Tech Skylander to unlock this gate!

4. Soul Gems, would you like to preview Punk Shock *selects No*? Not a location, but Soul Gems are obviously advertisements to try and get you unlock that figurine. This would be cool if you could just unlock him/her for free later on in the game, but the ugly truth is that you have to pay $10 to get him/her at a store, you might not even be able to find him without using the internet. Not a "part" of the game you refer to, but its still locked content.

And personally, I don't really mind Characters being unusable in some Playsets, the Toy Box is the main reason I would play the game anyway and they all still work there. The only reason the Playsets locking characters does bother me is because you need to buy another figure to use 2 Player mode in that playset. Even then, I am an only child and the only person I play it with is my little cousin when she visits, where she just wants to play Minecraft because of her obsession for it (I think Minecraft is overrated, the most Overrated game of all time ). So I just play by myself most of the time.

Despite what that fool BahamutBreaker (and a few other fanboys) believes, I still like both games anyway and I think they had potential that has been wasted (mostly with Skylanders to be honest though).

Skylanders needs a longer story and to focus more on the gameplay than the toy collecting, I'm getting tired of the Soul Gems and stuff advertising in my face; I'm not gonna say all the flaws that bother me cuz I already said it and some you already know why (even if you don't, it'll be WAY too long of a message).

D.I. needs more gameplay differences between its characters, remove grinding for all the Spins, and fix its numerous glitches. Luckily they're still developing it and working on the glitches, going as far to cancel some Iron Man Star Wars games so they can polish D.I.

They're both good, but my Games of the Year remain to be Pokémon X and Darkstalkers Ressurection.

Di is boring glitchy and just not worth it they have only 5 more characters left skylanders has 4 times more than that and di story's are short took me 2 hours to finish mu
You can also change to a different character after you open any gate (not swapzones)

1. That's your opinion, not a fact. To me it was totally worth it and I love it more than Skylanders, even if you or anyone else doesn't.

2. And just because Skylanders has more characters doesn't mean it is good, some of them are pretty bad and lame. Warnado *cough* *cough*. One of the problems I have with Skylanders is that there are TOO MANY characters. 80 Skylanders? No thank you.

Disney Infinity still has 8 more figurines to release, not 5.

3. Skylanders story is just as short as one playset if not shorter, there are only 24 levels in the first game, 16 in the 2nd, and 12 in the 3rd (Boss chapters don't count). There are a total of 3 playsets in the starter pack that could take longer.

4. Skylanders Giants has a ton of glitches too, plus the Wii version of SWAP Force freezes up frequently. To make matters worse, VV and TFB are already done developing the games and are already announcing another game for 2014, they aren't making any updates to fix anything.

Disney Interactive is still working on DI and will eventually fix the glicthes sooner or later in patches and updates, even going as far to cancel an Iron man Game and Star Wars Game to keep developing it.

5. I don't care that you can still switch after going into an elemental gate, you still have to have a skylander of that element or you are completely banned from going in. This kind of thing would be cool if a character like that could be unlocked later in the game for free (at least as a demo or free trial), but the ugly truth remains that you need to buy it for $10.

Try as you might, nothing you can say or do will change my opinion.

Just saying something.

Skylanders only have 80 because it has three games.
Disney Infinity has less because it is only one game.

^ While that is true, they easily could've removed some of the characters from SWAP Force (particularly a few of the "forgotten characters") or continue to develop the game to fix other issues like the short length of gameplay or underwhelming difficulty.

It doesn't stop there either:

- Reposes as Series 2 and 3 Figures
- Lightcores that cost $2 more than normal ones and don't have Wow Pows
- Recolored Variant Figures

^Well, in SSA there were more than 32 characters released whereas in Infinity there is only a total of 29


Not trying to start yet ANOTHER Infinity vs. Skylanders war, just saying. I love both.

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^ While that is true, they easily could've removed some of the characters from SWAP Force (particularly a few of the "forgotten characters") or continue to develop the game to fix other issues like the short length of gameplay or underwhelming difficulty.

It doesn't stop there either:

- Reposes as Series 2 and 3 Figures
- Lightcores that cost $2 more than normal ones and don't have Wow Pows
- Recolored Variant Figures

Yeah they should just stick to new characters and re release old figures...

U did not just insult pokemon. Pokemon is one of the best selling series of all time. It got better reviews, and each game has a different story, and u create a bond with ur pokemon. Skylanders costs waaayyyyy more money, I would rather buy pokemon x. Plus, it is so much cheaper.

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U did not just insult pokemon. Pokemon is one of the best selling series of all time. It got better reviews, and each game has a different story, and u create a bond with ur pokemon. Skylanders costs waaayyyyy more money, I would rather buy pokemon x. Plus, it is so much cheaper.

Only gonna address 3 things in your comment:

1. Who insulted it, me?

2. No, each game's story is almost exactly the same.

- Same (presumably) 10 year old Kid who abandons his Mom
- Same Professor who wants you to fill out a Pokedex and owns the 3 starter Pokémon
- Same Rival who picks the starter elementally stronger than yours and is obsessed with beating you.
- Same 8 Gyms you must challenge to get into the Elite Four
- Same Bad Guy Organization trying to take over the world
- Same Legendary Pokémon who gets involved in the Bad Guy's plans


Could it get anymore generic than that? This story has been has been rehashed for about 15 or 16 years and its gets old after seeing it for like the 5th time, New story that removes some of these plz.

3. In my opinion, Pokémon is overrated and overall the 2nd most overrated game on the planet.

- Several People play it and talk about it a lot, I've met at least 60 fans in the real world (excluding myself).
- Sold over 245 million copies in total as of now
- Has been turned into Trading Cards, Toys, Manga, an Anime Show, Board Games, and other Useless Merchandise.
- Almost always gets positive reviews, even perfect scores.
- Fanboys get mad if you say just one negative thing about it (especially Gen1ers)

In my eyes and ears, the only game more overrated than it is Minecraft; although I admit Skylanders is also overrated (but to a lesser extent). And before you say anything, Overrated does not mean bad. I still love the games anyway and I think of Pokémon X as Game of the Year (behind Darkstalkers Ressurection at least ).

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I agree with a lot of your points, I feel no sympathy towards Activision either. Why release SF a newer game right after the day of a more popular franchise that is sure to attract kids too, especially if yours will be a lot more expensive for parents to pay (they should pay more attention to the parents rather the kids)?

Not only that, but Disney is also competing with them and they knew from the beginning that they would have a new, already being confident that Skylanders would remain the top seller and were overall unfazed. As it turns out, DI has sold like 1 million starter packs in the US right now and is continuing to grow, Disney overall has more popular and recognizable brands than Activision will ever have. Monsters University, Wreck-It Ralph, Phineas & Ferb, etc. are undoubtedly more popular than Spyro the Dragon or any of his new weird-looking friends that are so new, they are sure to draw some kids away from Skylanders (not to mention having "Infinite" possibilities and doing a tad more advertising).

Yes but D.I. also has one thing that Skylanders doesn't have...the ability to piss off your players when they realize that a bunch of their favorite figures are only usable in a portion of the game. Skylanders are usable in every part of the game. D.I. can't say the same thing and they don't make it very obvious either. The nail in the coffin for me was finding out Wreck it Ralph wasn't getting a play set...WTF it's a movie franchise based on a video game???!111?!!!?!!/11/1!?1!?!!1/1/1/1?!! I would have gotten rid of D.I. if my daughter didn't like to play it from time to time.

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Skylanders are usable in every part of the game.

Every part of the game? That's not exactly true.

1. Normal Skylanders can't go in SWAP Force Zones, which is pretty much the same as Characters without Playsets in D.I. (except they are smaller and do not last as long).

2. If you die, you cannot use that Skylander again for the rest of the level unless you restart or exit it, there isn't any way to revive yourself sadly. Why can't I just pay 200 gold at a shop so I can revive my Rip Tide and go back in battle without having to restart? I know this doesn't really count as a locked location, but its still pretty similar and I thought it'd be worth nothing.

3. You need a Tech Skylander to unlock this gate!

4. Soul Gems, would you like to preview Punk Shock *selects No*? Not a location, but Soul Gems are obviously advertisements to try and get you unlock that figurine. This would be cool if you could just unlock him/her for free later on in the game, but the ugly truth is that you have to pay $10 to get him/her at a store, you might not even be able to find him without using the internet. Not a "part" of the game you refer to, but its still locked content.

And personally, I don't really mind Characters being unusable in some Playsets, the Toy Box is the main reason I would play the game anyway and they all still work there. The only reason the Playsets locking characters does bother me is because you need to buy another figure to use 2 Player mode in that playset. Even then, I am an only child and the only person I play it with is my little cousin when she visits, where she just wants to play Minecraft because of her obsession for it (I think Minecraft is overrated, the most Overrated game of all time ). So I just play by myself most of the time.

Despite what that fool BahamutBreaker (and a few other fanboys) believes, I still like both games anyway and I think they had potential that has been wasted (mostly with Skylanders to be honest though).

Skylanders needs a longer story and to focus more on the gameplay than the toy collecting, I'm getting tired of the Soul Gems and stuff advertising in my face; I'm not gonna say all the flaws that bother me cuz I already said it and some you already know why (even if you don't, it'll be WAY too long of a message).

D.I. needs more gameplay differences between its characters, remove grinding for all the Spins, and fix its numerous glitches. Luckily they're still developing it and working on the glitches, going as far to cancel some Iron Man Star Wars games so they can polish D.I.

They're both good, but my Games of the Year remain to be Pokémon X and Darkstalkers Ressurection.

Nit picker...lol. O.k. so there's like 5% of the game that is specific to one character.

Swap Force is longer than any one D.I. play set and you know it lol...come on now.

My point still remains regarding the value of D.I. figures that don't have a play set. If you're not in to toy box mode they are useless. That's my main sticky point and I like Toy Box mode to some extent. D.I. has crashed at least 30 times or more where S.F. has not crashed once. Both games are on PS3 for my play experience. Plus lets be honest the D.I. characters are almost all the same...especially from the same universe. Some exceptions are Tonto and Lone Ranger.

Also most people have Skylanders of every element from other games so elemental gates won't be a problem for most.

I'm not trying to talk you out of liking D.I. but for overall value per figure Skylanders has D.I. beat by a land slide.

Plus some of the game play in D.I. is so wonky and not kid friendly. Those bastard paint ball gunners from Monsters Inc. are just unfair since they never miss and are invulnerable....how is that enjoyable???

Another negative point is that damn split screen in D.I. Me and my daughter hate it. Vertical split screen needs to go. I could tolerate a horizontal split screen but vertical literally guts the experience. Skylanders has always encouraged (forced really lol) actual co-op play by working and sticking together.

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Yes but D.I. also has one thing that Skylanders doesn't have...the ability to piss off your players when they realize that a bunch of their favorite figures are only usable in a portion of the game. Skylanders are usable in every part of the game. D.I. can't say the same thing and they don't make it very obvious either. The nail in the coffin for me was finding out Wreck it Ralph wasn't getting a play set...WTF it's a movie franchise based on a video game???!111?!!!?!!/11/1!?1!?!!1/1/1/1?!! I would have gotten rid of D.I. if my daughter didn't like to play it from time to time.

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Skylanders are usable in every part of the game.

Every part of the game? That's not exactly true.

1. Normal Skylanders can't go in SWAP Force Zones, which is pretty much the same as Characters without Playsets in D.I. (except they are smaller and do not last as long).

2. If you die, you cannot use that Skylander again for the rest of the level unless you restart or exit it, there isn't any way to revive yourself sadly. Why can't I just pay 200 gold at a shop so I can revive my Rip Tide and go back in battle without having to restart? I know this doesn't really count as a locked location, but its still pretty similar and I thought it'd be worth nothing.

3. You need a Tech Skylander to unlock this gate!

4. Soul Gems, would you like to preview Punk Shock *selects No*? Not a location, but Soul Gems are obviously advertisements to try and get you unlock that figurine. This would be cool if you could just unlock him/her for free later on in the game, but the ugly truth is that you have to pay $10 to get him/her at a store, you might not even be able to find him without using the internet. Not a "part" of the game you refer to, but its still locked content.

And personally, I don't really mind Characters being unusable in some Playsets, the Toy Box is the main reason I would play the game anyway and they all still work there. The only reason the Playsets locking characters does bother me is because you need to buy another figure to use 2 Player mode in that playset. Even then, I am an only child and the only person I play it with is my little cousin when she visits, where she just wants to play Minecraft because of her obsession for it (I think Minecraft is overrated, the most Overrated game of all time ). So I just play by myself most of the time.

Despite what that fool BahamutBreaker (and a few other fanboys) believes, I still like both games anyway and I think they had potential that has been wasted (mostly with Skylanders to be honest though).

Skylanders needs a longer story and to focus more on the gameplay than the toy collecting, I'm getting tired of the Soul Gems and stuff advertising in my face; I'm not gonna say all the flaws that bother me cuz I already said it and some you already know why (even if you don't, it'll be WAY too long of a message).

D.I. needs more gameplay differences between its characters, remove grinding for all the Spins, and fix its numerous glitches. Luckily they're still developing it and working on the glitches, going as far to cancel some Iron Man Star Wars games so they can polish D.I.

They're both good, but my Games of the Year remain to be Pokémon X and Darkstalkers Ressurection.

Nit picker...lol. O.k. so there's like 5% of the game that is specific to one character.

Swap Force is longer than any one D.I. play set and you know it lol...come on now.

My point still remains regarding the value of D.I. figures that don't have a play set. If you're not in to toy box mode they are useless. That's my main sticky point and I like Toy Box mode to some extent. D.I. has crashed at least 30 times or more where S.F. has not crashed once. Both games are on PS3 for my play experience. Plus lets be honest the D.I. characters are almost all the same...especially from the same universe. Some exceptions are Tonto and Lone Ranger.

Also most people have Skylanders of every element from other games so elemental gates won't be a problem for most.

I'm not trying to talk you out of liking D.I. but for overall value per figure Skylanders has D.I. beat by a land slide.

Plus some of the game play in D.I. is so wonky and not kid friendly. Those bastard paint ball gunners from Monsters Inc. are just unfair since they never miss and are invulnerable....how is that enjoyable???

Another negative point is that damn split screen in D.I. Me and my daughter hate it. Vertical split screen needs to go. I could tolerate a horizontal split screen but vertical literally guts the experience. Skylanders has always encouraged (forced really lol) actual co-op play by working and sticking together.

I agree that the characters are identical and that the toy box only characters have a little less value, but Skylanders value is higher by a landslide? I do believe that's an overstatement. I won't lie, I honestly bought only 4 Infinity figurines at the moment because they are too similar in gameplay and bought more SWAP Force figurines. However, Heroic Challenges are removed and buying a new Skylander toy doesn't unlock as much content anymore when not counting elemental gates (unless its a SWAP Forcer, which is costs like $15); thus giving me a little less of a reason to buy them (also probably a small reason why their sales are starting to shrink), especially the Series 3 figurines which to me are almost completely worthless now. At least DI characters unlock Spins and Adventures (which I love A LOT more than the Heroic Challenges). And also, the Toy Box is the main reason to play DI, so it doesn't really bother me very much at all.

As long as I can still download other people's toy boxes and have fun, that's all that matters.

I admit that Skylanders figurines do hold more value (only because they have more differences between gameplay), but just barely.

The MU Sludge Bombers (not Paint Ballers) are enjoyable to have around because they have stealth mechanics and require at least some strategy to avoid. The combat system is shallow, but still enjoyable nonetheless. Skylander Stealth Mechanics? Easy, just pick Stealth Elf, turn invisible, and create a scarecrow and then they forget they ever saw you... despite the fact that you are still visible green glowing eyes and that you're standing right in front of them cutting their faces with Knives! Easily some of the biggest examples of AI stupidity in video gaming I have ever played.

I actually like the Split Screen, The world is too big (which is another superiority imo) to make you both share the same screen; plus I'm just used to it and seen it in lots of other games, doesn't seem like you have. Skylander just ties you both up and you are stuck with each other for every part of the game except Battle and Survival Modes, but neither of those are fantastic (in my opinion) and need improvement. Why can't just ditch my Little Cousin and leave her behind to be a little more competitive, to see who can beat the level first in a race? Huh? Huh? Huh? Because there's no split screen and we both share the same screen, that's why. The same screen would be cool if there was online multiplayer, but the ugly truth is: There is no Online Multiplayer. Skylanders would be so much better if they would add Online Play.


Not trying to start another DI vs Skylanders war, but this is just my opinion.