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Activision is either better prepared than we think or a lier... [CLOSED]
ninja9351 Emerald Sparx Gems: 4924
#1 Posted: 19:22:15 24/10/2013 | Topic Creator
So before you read this you may think that this has to do with the mobile games but in a way this has to do with SSF.

So you know we have this new portal so that they can read the Swappers, however if you use your Bluetooth Portal of Power you will see that it can read Swappers! Activision either prepared for Swap Force by making the Portal forwards compatible or they lied by saying we need a new portal. If this is a lie I bet they will make an extra million just for selling the portal. This honestly makes me mad.
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#2 Posted: 19:32:21 24/10/2013
Personally, I couldn't care less. I have no interest in buying a Booster Pack for the game ever. With Giants, Cynder and Jet-Vac didn't come out until months after the release of the game and the extra figures that come with the Starter Pack over the Booster Pack are worth the cost.
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#3 Posted: 19:32:55 24/10/2013
The new portal is needed to read the top half. The iOS portal just reads the info in the base.
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#4 Posted: 20:54:34 24/10/2013
I tried swap the swappers and put it in the bluetooth iOS portal and it doesn't work ... Try it yourself..
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#5 Posted: 21:10:12 24/10/2013
Quote: bionicle2809
Personally, I couldn't care less. I have no interest in buying a Booster Pack for the game ever. With Giants, Cynder and Jet-Vac didn't come out until months after the release of the game and the extra figures that come with the Starter Pack over the Booster Pack are worth the cost.


Exactly this ^

When you break down the numbers you are getting $40 worth of Skylanders and paying $35 for the game and portal - plus the little extras like posters and stickers. I'm good with buying a new Starter pack every release.
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#6 Posted: 21:26:37 24/10/2013
There is also a big difference between being able to read the character, and being about to read/write to the character fast enough that it doesn't corrupt the data on the figure.
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#7 Posted: 21:30:48 24/10/2013
Can you swap on lost islands.
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#8 Posted: 21:50:51 24/10/2013 | Topic Creator
Quote: Lash
The new portal is needed to read the top half. The iOS portal just reads the info in the base.



Yeah but I swapped it, and it read it.
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darkrai848 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3096
#9 Posted: 22:00:40 24/10/2013
Battle grounds can read the top part as it works if you swap them. I was going to post the same topic as TC, but was thinking it might have something to do with the fact that battle grounds only reads the chips and does not write to them, so it may not need to be as powerful.
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#10 Posted: 23:48:49 24/10/2013
The old portals can't read as much info and as fast compared to the new ones.
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#11 Posted: 02:41:42 25/10/2013
Quote: BashBigFan
I tried swap the swappers and put it in the bluetooth iOS portal and it doesn't work ... Try it yourself..



I put some of my swappers on my blue tooth portal and all it said was reading reading then as soon as I took them off they registered. so i'm not sure but my Bluetooth portal is reading the new ones just kinda of slow
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#12 Posted: 03:30:25 25/10/2013
It is also a matter of having multiple Toys at once... with the old portal you probably couldn't have 2 Swappers + a Magic Item at once.
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#13 Posted: 05:42:36 25/10/2013
Quote: newkill
It is also a matter of having multiple Toys at once... with the old portal you probably couldn't have 2 Swappers + a Magic Item at once.



I played battle grounds with 2 (swapped) swappers and the platinum chest on the portal at the same time, and it worked fine.
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#14 Posted: 05:53:24 25/10/2013
I'm speaking about Swap Force the console game, maybe the old portal didn't worked so they had to make a new one? I'm pretty sure there is more stuff going on with the reading/writing in Swap Force than in Battlegrounds.

Producing new portals cost them money anyway, people can't say they are trying to make more money or something like that.
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#15 Posted: 06:35:28 25/10/2013
Honestly even if they made a "owner's" package again i'd still buy the new portal with the 3 figures or the dark edition. The portal owners did save ppl money but alot of them are still rotting on store shelves. So maybe they lied to not have to make two diffrent ones? guess we will find out with sky4.


I think they did it because they needed a better portal for swap force like they stated. The rest is just positives of it.
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#16 Posted: 09:22:36 25/10/2013
Quote: darkrai848
Quote: newkill
It is also a matter of having multiple Toys at once... with the old portal you probably couldn't have 2 Swappers + a Magic Item at once.



I played battle grounds with 2 (swapped) swappers and the platinum chest on the portal at the same time, and it worked fine.


That is comparing one of the mobile games to the console versions.
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#17 Posted: 09:33:31 25/10/2013
Main problem is the 4 item limit on the old Portal.
I haven't checked the Bluetooth Portal but it is possible as this is much newer they upped the limit on that or made a firmware update.
The old Portal cannot be firmware updated so to work in SF and allow items/sidekicks in 2 player it NEEDS a SF portal.

Granted, the old portal would work for 1 player or 2 player not items if they allowed it.

I think they handled it very well all things considered.
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#18 Posted: 17:38:23 25/10/2013
Quote: Pyrofer
Main problem is the 4 item limit on the old Portal.
I haven't checked the Bluetooth Portal but it is possible as this is much newer they upped the limit on that or made a firmware update.
The old Portal cannot be firmware updated so to work in SF and allow items/sidekicks in 2 player it NEEDS a SF portal.

Granted, the old portal would work for 1 player or 2 player not items if they allowed it.

I think they handled it very well all things considered.



I feel the same, I was just stating that the iOS portal does work with 2 swappers and an item, but I know that the main game is very different.
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#19 Posted: 17:45:28 25/10/2013
I didn't realize there was already a thread about the portals. smilie

So, this is interesting... I was trying the whole "daisy chaining" portals with the older portal. I could not get it to read two swappers + one magic item...

However, I have two swappers on it and the weirdest thing is going on... I have Dark Blast Zone and Enchanted Hoot Loop on the old portal But the game says I have Dark Blast Loop and Enchanted Hoot Zone on the portal. Heh.

*edit* Now, I can't get the second (older) portal to load two Swappers in at all. I was trying to recreate the swapped glitch, but cannot seem to make it work.
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#20 Posted: 18:03:04 25/10/2013
hmmm.

Playing around, trying everything I could to get it to work again, I kept getting the "too many Skylanders" message whenever I'd put the second Swapper on the older portal.

Then, all of a sudden... character loading screen! Half Magic, Half Fire! It was Enchanted Hoot Zone again! But wait... place another Skylander on the portal? What? Last time, it loaded both... this time, it wants a third figure on the portal? So, I threw DMRS on the main portal and he loaded... and back to game play!

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Weird.

I guess this throws out the possibility of any of the signal being carried by the connection between the two figures, right?
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#21 Posted: 19:08:55 25/10/2013
The 2 half's are connected but just by a range extender, the top and bottom are read as 2 skylanders but the top does not have a large antenna chip and uses the one in the bottom.
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