darkSpyro

It's 1 day after Pokemon X and Y, this will affect therir sales.

It's the last day of the weekend!!!

Not really. Pokemon is just a game; Skylanders is a whole action figure series AND a game.

(I know, Pokemon has figures, but most of them are just boring, static figures.)

And plus, It will still get sales afterwards anyways.

Would you rather do it on the following Saturday?
Because I sure dont

October 11th Toys R Us is also releasing some exclusive Disney figures! Expensive weekend for some! Should know by now that 2/3 of video games, music, and movies are released in the last quarter of the year. Last year I'm pretty sure that Pokémon Black/White 2 was released the day or week before Giants too.

You guys underestimate the power of Pokémon.

Not everyone has a lot of money and dedicate it to Skylanders. I know many people who had to pick between the two and are going for Pokémon. It's a behemoth of a series that is the closest to "dominating" handheld gaming.

I'm sure the game will get sales later and it won't really hurt them but might lower their profit since price-lowerings are more common the further you get into a game's lifetime. Guess the figures make up for that though.

Still, at least I'll get to buy a Pokémon game at launch again since I decided to ignore SWAP Force unless I hear something about it that excites me much more than what we've seen.

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You guys underestimate the power of Pokémon.

Not everyone has a lot of money and dedicate it to Skylanders. I know many people who had to pick between the two and are going for Pokémon. It's a behemoth of a series that is the closest to "dominating" handheld gaming.

I'm sure the game will get sales later and it won't really hurt them but might lower their profit since price-lowerings are more common the further you get into a game's lifetime. Guess the figures make up for that though.

Still, at least I'll get to buy a Pokémon game at launch again since I decided to ignore SWAP Force unless I hear something about it that excites me much more than what we've seen.

Thank you! SSF Should have realeased today or tommorow, then they woulda had a bit of a head start and do better finnacially.

It is true. Pokemon sales will probably be as high as skylanders if not more because of its loyal fans and it also being made in a new format. Plus they have bundles as well. Pokemon and skylanders are rivals no matter what anyone on here says. Video games are video games no matter what comes with it or format. I like both and its mad hard to collect both. Everytime you try to catch up on one you fall behind on the other. Whether it was pokemon or gta v, its still a bad date to sell skylanders. I mean, come on. On a Sunday? That's more of a smack than getting it on a Tuesday.

It's fine by me.

If people want to buy Pokemon instead of SWAP Force that just means there will be more Skylanders for me to buy. I'm okay with this.

Wait a minute---a $60 game is a blip compared to the hundreds of dollars required to buy all of these wonderful toys.

You're kidding right, that $60 is to impact Skylanders sales?

Not everyone buys all the toys.

I know quite a few people who just buy stuff needed for 100% and one or two favourites. For them, $60 is quite a bit to justify spending on a game. So they ultimately decide to choose one and get the other when it's cheaper.

Grosses-wise Skylanders isn't really under threat, but Pokémon just has more consumer interest. So I think that it will steal some sales from Skylanders if you compare how they'll do- purely at the start.
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I'm sure the game will get sales later and it won't really hurt them but might lower their profit since price-lowerings are more common the further you get into a game's lifetime. Guess the figures make up for that though.

I know it's affecting my purchasing habits. It's $40 lees that I would be spending on Skylanders...It's Pokemon in 3D.

Oh by the way, there is a Toys R Us 20% off Skylanders Starters that will work with the Frito $10 off starter. Toys R Us can take one manufacturer coupon and one Toys R Us coupon per purchase. I was schooled on this by the associate in video games. So I'm getting my starter for $50 day one. Sorry Gamestop but you're just not competitive enough.

I would be better TODAY!!!

For my I don't care I will be buying pokemon x on the 12th but will most likely not even play it till after I beat both wii U and 3DS swap force.

What's Pokemon?

Good thing I already have 210 bucks saved for the weekend!

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For my I don't care I will be buying pokemon x on the 12th but will most likely not even play it till after I beat both wii U and 3DS swap force.

Good!!! That's a portal master!!!

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Good thing I already have 210 bucks saved for the weekend!

Good thing that I'm loaded with rare figures to sell..

All that really matters is that they release it before the holiday shopping season. First week sales will be strong either way because of fans like us. What's going to make or break the franchise is the long-term sales of the figures and games. Long-term sales won't be affected by this. I mean, Pokemon was going to come out one way or another. You can't help that.

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What's Pokemon?

Unrelated video game to the site
Basically you capture creatures and make them fight

Yeah Pokemon will take some of Skylander's sales, but there isn't a good time to release a game for it to be on sale for the holiday season without competition of some kind.

But since these are the two games I'm most excited for this year, (maybe kinda odd for someone in their mid 20s, but I like what I like) I budgeted my spending money accordingly

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You guys underestimate the power of Pokémon.

Not everyone has a lot of money and dedicate it to Skylanders. I know many people who had to pick between the two and are going for Pokémon. It's a behemoth of a series that is the closest to "dominating" handheld gaming.

I'm sure the game will get sales later and it won't really hurt them but might lower their profit since price-lowerings are more common the further you get into a game's lifetime. Guess the figures make up for that though.

Still, at least I'll get to buy a Pokémon game at launch again since I decided to ignore SWAP Force unless I hear something about it that excites me much more than what we've seen.

Thank you! SSF Should have realeased today or tommorow, then they woulda had a bit of a head start and do better finnacially.

Amen! I wouldnt mind it coming out a week early! I'm getting both on the 13th anyway so I don't drag my mom out cuz it's hard enough to get her to take me anywhere I want. Anyway, won't be playing it until I finish swap force, skylanders before Pokemon lately, my childhood must be frowning on me.... Oh well.

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What's Pokemon?

More competition than Infinity!

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It's 1 day after Pokemon X and Y, this will affect therir sales.

As popular as Pokémon is (only surpassed by Mario), Skylanders will still do fine even with them around. I'm sure that they will still be good for now, I only see them flopping in like 10 years in the future.

Not in sales, but in Game Critic Reviews.

The only real competition right now they have is Disney Infinity and normal everyday toys, and even then Skylanders will (sadly) remain the top seller. They've already sold 100,000,000 toys....

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You guys underestimate the power of Pokémon.

Not everyone has a lot of money and dedicate it to Skylanders. I know many people who had to pick between the two and are going for Pokémon. It's a behemoth of a series that is the closest to "dominating" handheld gaming.

I'm sure the game will get sales later and it won't really hurt them but might lower their profit since price-lowerings are more common the further you get into a game's lifetime. Guess the figures make up for that though.

Still, at least I'll get to buy a Pokémon game at launch again since I decided to ignore SWAP Force unless I hear something about it that excites me much more than what we've seen.

Thank you! SSF Should have realeased today or tommorow, then they woulda had a bit of a head start and do better finnacially.

Amen! I wouldnt mind it coming out a week early! I'm getting both on the 13th anyway so I don't drag my mom out cuz it's hard enough to get her to take me anywhere I want. Anyway, won't be playing it until I finish swap force, skylanders before Pokemon lately, my childhood must be frowning on me.... Oh well.

Sadly I might do the reverse seeing as I am currently without any kind of DS and will more then likely spend at least 2 days playing it (ordered 2ds and getting pokemon X) but I am still going to play a little bit

It's kind of good for me because when I get Pokemon y it will give me something to do while waiting for swap force xD

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It's kind of good for me because when I get Pokemon y it will give me something to do while waiting for swap force xD

This times infinity. My brain is already on overload waiting for both of these. Pokemon will save me next weekend while we wait.

I really think Gen 6 came out too soon, usually there's 4-5 years for one, but Gen 5 was only 3, that's annoying.

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I really think Gen 6 came out too soon, usually there's 4-5 years for one, but Gen 5 was only 3, that's annoying.

That's because there was bearly any spin offs like Battle Revolution.

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I really think Gen 6 came out too soon, usually there's 4-5 years for one, but Gen 5 was only 3, that's annoying.

I think thats why a lot if the new Pokemon look very poor designed.

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I really think Gen 6 came out too soon, usually there's 4-5 years for one, but Gen 5 was only 3, that's annoying.

That's because there was bearly any spin offs like Battle Revolution.

Plus let's face it, it's time they embraced 3D. When the Pokedex 3D was introduced I thought for sure the sequel to White/Black would be in 3D since they were basically showing us they had them already made up in 3D with battle animations and everything...but alas it was a BIG tease. This needs to happen now for them to stay relevant (I.M.O. don't shoot me). The collectible space is becoming crowded but could stand to get a little more crowded. The Pokemon Rumble figs. are just lazy on Nintendo's part. The could have easily done something closer to Skylanders with nicer random figs sold in the same manner as the Rumble figs but you unlocked them in game. I totally /facepalmed when I saw the Rumble figs and their interaction....Rumble???Really!!!!????!111?????

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I really think Gen 6 came out too soon, usually there's 4-5 years for one, but Gen 5 was only 3, that's annoying.

Actually, Gen II only lasted a few years as well.

no it won't skylanders will kick pokeass!

Sucks that it comes out Sunday for me but the next day is Columbus Day so no school for me!

Nope, I don't think it's a bad time

fine with me we get Monday off for thanks giving

yea it sucks. see you at christmas 2013 pokemon Y

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Sucks that it comes out Sunday for me but the next day is Columbus Day so no school for me!

Me too! It's good it's comin out next week (for me at least) anyway, far too busy this weekend plus we don't have this Monday off, Colombia may be an ass for what he did to the native Americans but he can sure pick great times for days off!

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It's kind of good for me because when I get Pokemon y it will give me something to do while waiting for swap force xD

That final day stall method

It doesn't even really matter. Most peoplr, if they're like me, will end up getting both. And fir SSF you don't have to get all the figures now. You can just wait till later to get them.

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Not really. Pokemon is just a game; Skylanders is a whole action figure series AND a game.

(I know, Pokemon has figures, but most of them are just boring, static figures.)

Oh god, someone insulted Pokemon, time to bring out the defense.

Pokemon is more than a "game", Pokemon is a powerhouse. How have they managed to stay alive for near 15 Years if it is just a game huh? I expect one more Skylander game then done. Not everyone wants to spend 10.00 on one figure with like 12 Powers and 20 levels, why not get one game for 40.00, but have over 700, each on with 100+ Powers and 100 Levels? And the eight badges you collect,not to mention all the story line and plot. Skylanders is just: Find Kaos, beat him, yay! Nothing aftergame really. Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory. At least Pokemon has replay value. How can one game with like 20 Levels, and rip-offs like Dark Skylanders, compete with pokemon? And the arguement: "oh they have figures, they win" Let's see, they have collectibale cards, plushes, and even figures, and even something like Skylanders. SKylanders did not invent the "game that connects with figures that have chips", no. Pokemon is and always will be better than Skylanders.

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Not really. Pokemon is just a game; Skylanders is a whole action figure series AND a game.

(I know, Pokemon has figures, but most of them are just boring, static figures.)

Oh god, someone insulted Pokemon, time to bring out the defense.

Pokemon is more than a "game", Pokemon is a powerhouse. How have they managed to stay alive for near 15 Years if it is just a game huh? I expect one more Skylander game then done. Not everyone wants to spend 10.00 on one figure with like 12 Powers and 20 levels, why not get one game for 40.00, but have over 700, each on with 100+ Powers and 100 Levels? And the eight badges you collect,not to mention all the story line and plot. Skylanders is just: Find Kaos, beat him, yay! Nothing aftergame really. Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory. At least Pokemon has replay value. How can one game with like 20 Levels, and rip-offs like Dark Skylanders, compete with pokemon? And the arguement: "oh they have figures, they win" Let's see, they have collectibale cards, plushes, and even figures, and even something like Skylanders. SKylanders did not invent the "game that connects with figures that have chips", no. Pokemon is and always will be better than Skylanders.

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YESSSSSS a debate. You know what Joerox, for the most part you are right.....EXCEPT Pokemon being better...I like them equally and it's really a matter of preference. Plus I think Pokemon has been around in the US since 1994 so almost 20 years. Pokemon satisfies an itch that no other game can satisfy. I am happiest when I'm collecting and leveling something. With MMO's I actually like the leveling process...Yeah I'm nuts I know. For me, it feels like I'm connecting to the creature I'm leveling and helping it achieve greatness. Skylanders satisfies that craving somewhat with the figure hunt and leveling but Skylanders all adds beating the ever loving crap out of a bunch of baddies like Diablo, and other hack and slash titles. Both have their place but it's hard to say what's better. I am 100% in agreement thought that Pokemon is not JUST a game...it's an experience.

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October 11th Toys R Us is also releasing some exclusive Disney figures! Expensive weekend for some! Should know by now that 2/3 of video games, music, and movies are released in the last quarter of the year. Last year I'm pretty sure that Pokémon Black/White 2 was released the day or week before Giants too.

What Disney is coming out the 11th?

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Not really. Pokemon is just a game; Skylanders is a whole action figure series AND a game.

(I know, Pokemon has figures, but most of them are just boring, static figures.)

Oh god, someone insulted Pokemon, time to bring out the defense.

Pokemon is more than a "game", Pokemon is a powerhouse. How have they managed to stay alive for near 15 Years if it is just a game huh? I expect one more Skylander game then done. Not everyone wants to spend 10.00 on one figure with like 12 Powers and 20 levels, why not get one game for 40.00, but have over 700, each on with 100+ Powers and 100 Levels? And the eight badges you collect,not to mention all the story line and plot. Skylanders is just: Find Kaos, beat him, yay! Nothing aftergame really. Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory. At least Pokemon has replay value. How can one game with like 20 Levels, and rip-offs like Dark Skylanders, compete with pokemon? And the arguement: "oh they have figures, they win" Let's see, they have collectibale cards, plushes, and even figures, and even something like Skylanders. SKylanders did not invent the "game that connects with figures that have chips", no. Pokemon is and always will be better than Skylanders.

I agree that Pokémon is better and Skylanders didn't invent the Toys to Life Idea, but its not that much better.

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Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory

That's basically ALL Pokémon is, they've been doing the same routine for the last 15 years. The Story and Gameplay remain almost exactly the same for each of their games, with few significant improvements and light changes. Some of the games such as Emerald & Platinum have so little changes that they feel more like upgrades to their sister games rather than actual sequels (imo at least), much like Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge.

As for the replay value, better than Skylanders, but still a tad disappointing. All you basically unlock is finding older Pokémon in the Wild (not very many of them either), migration of Pokémon from the current game's predecessors, stronger rivals, and Battle Frontier.

So basically, Pokémon is cool and all but it lathers, rinses, and repeats its games too much; much like Mario or Call of Duty games. I wish they would make one game with several changes that are actually significant:

- Brand New Story
- A faster, quicker way of Grinding exp
- Better, Unique Boss Fights
- Something to do with your Pokémon that doesn't involve battling (Like Skylanders Heroic Challenges, it gets old after doing it for the 100th time)
- More Maps and Areas than just one region
- NO MORE EXTRA VERSIONS!!!! Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, BW2. If they must upgrade the current games, they should turn them into DLCs or Updates instead of remaking the same Game for another $35 or $40 with a new save file. Technology has now evolved, this stuff is not cool anymore.

I will still play Pokémon through my Life though.

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Quote: Matteomax

Not really. Pokemon is just a game; Skylanders is a whole action figure series AND a game.

(I know, Pokemon has figures, but most of them are just boring, static figures.)

Oh god, someone insulted Pokemon, time to bring out the defense.

Pokemon is more than a "game", Pokemon is a powerhouse. How have they managed to stay alive for near 15 Years if it is just a game huh? I expect one more Skylander game then done. Not everyone wants to spend 10.00 on one figure with like 12 Powers and 20 levels, why not get one game for 40.00, but have over 700, each on with 100+ Powers and 100 Levels? And the eight badges you collect,not to mention all the story line and plot. Skylanders is just: Find Kaos, beat him, yay! Nothing aftergame really. Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory. At least Pokemon has replay value. How can one game with like 20 Levels, and rip-offs like Dark Skylanders, compete with pokemon? And the arguement: "oh they have figures, they win" Let's see, they have collectibale cards, plushes, and even figures, and even something like Skylanders. SKylanders did not invent the "game that connects with figures that have chips", no. Pokemon is and always will be better than Skylanders.

I agree that Pokémon is better and Skylanders didn't invent the Toys to Life Idea, but its not that much better.

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Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory

That's basically ALL Pokémon is, they've been doing the same routine for the last 15 years. The Story and Gameplay remain almost exactly the same for each of their games, with few significant improvements and light changes. Some of the games such as Emerald & Platinum have so little changes that they feel more like upgrades to their sister games rather than actual sequels (imo at least), much like Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge.

As for the replay value, better than Skylanders, but still a tad disappointing. All you basically unlock is finding older Pokémon in the Wild (not very many of them either), migration of Pokémon from the current game's predecessors, stronger rivals, and Battle Frontier.

So basically, Pokémon is cool and all but it lathers, rinses, and repeats its games too much; much like Mario or Call of Duty games. I wish they would make one game with several changes that are actually significant:

- Brand New Story
- A faster, quicker way of Grinding exp
- Better, Unique Boss Fights
- Something to do with your Pokémon that doesn't involve battling (Like Skylanders Heroic Challenges, it gets old after doing it for the 100th time)
- More Maps and Areas than just one region
- NO MORE EXTRA VERSIONS!!!! Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, BW2. If they must upgrade the current games, they should turn them into DLCs or Updates instead of remaking the same Game for another $35 or $40 with a new save file. Technology has now evolved, this stuff is not cool anymore.

I will still play Pokémon through my Life though.

They added mega evolutions which added a new battle. Options

Also exp share now gives to every pokemon in your team if the equipped pokemon battles. Not to mention you gain exp ileven if you catch a pokemon now

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Oh god, someone insulted Pokemon, time to bring out the defense.

Pokemon is more than a "game", Pokemon is a powerhouse. How have they managed to stay alive for near 15 Years if it is just a game huh? I expect one more Skylander game then done. Not everyone wants to spend 10.00 on one figure with like 12 Powers and 20 levels, why not get one game for 40.00, but have over 700, each on with 100+ Powers and 100 Levels? And the eight badges you collect,not to mention all the story line and plot. Skylanders is just: Find Kaos, beat him, yay! Nothing aftergame really. Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory. At least Pokemon has replay value. How can one game with like 20 Levels, and rip-offs like Dark Skylanders, compete with pokemon? And the arguement: "oh they have figures, they win" Let's see, they have collectibale cards, plushes, and even figures, and even something like Skylanders. SKylanders did not invent the "game that connects with figures that have chips", no. Pokemon is and always will be better than Skylanders.

I agree that Pokémon is better and Skylanders didn't invent the Toys to Life Idea, but its not that much better.

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Yet pokemon is: Catch Em all, get all the badges, beat the elite four, play sidequests, defeat afterstory

That's basically ALL Pokémon is, they've been doing the same routine for the last 15 years. The Story and Gameplay remain almost exactly the same for each of their games, with few significant improvements and light changes. Some of the games such as Emerald & Platinum have so little changes that they feel more like upgrades to their sister games rather than actual sequels (imo at least), much like Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge.

As for the replay value, better than Skylanders, but still a tad disappointing. All you basically unlock is finding older Pokémon in the Wild (not very many of them either), migration of Pokémon from the current game's predecessors, stronger rivals, and Battle Frontier.

So basically, Pokémon is cool and all but it lathers, rinses, and repeats its games too much; much like Mario or Call of Duty games. I wish they would make one game with several changes that are actually significant:

- Brand New Story
- A faster, quicker way of Grinding exp
- Better, Unique Boss Fights
- Something to do with your Pokémon that doesn't involve battling (Like Skylanders Heroic Challenges, it gets old after doing it for the 100th time)
- More Maps and Areas than just one region
- NO MORE EXTRA VERSIONS!!!! Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, BW2. If they must upgrade the current games, they should turn them into DLCs or Updates instead of remaking the same Game for another $35 or $40 with a new save file. Technology has now evolved, this stuff is not cool anymore.

I will still play Pokémon through my Life though.

They added mega evolutions which added a new battle. Options

Also exp share now gives to every pokemon in your team if the equipped pokemon battles. Not to mention you gain exp ileven if you catch a pokemon now

I'm well aware of Mega Evolutions. To me, all it seems like is just another evolution of a Pokémon; just requires an item and is only temporary (2 of which are also Version Exclusive). Still not significant enough to revolutionize the franchise.

I didn't know about the Exp All until now, thanks for letting me know. However, the Pokémon that do not participate in Battle only gain half the possible experience and still does not seem fast enough to finish grinding quick. Also not significant enough.

I thought the Horde Battles were a bigger addition than it.

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I agree that Pokémon is better and Skylanders didn't invent the Toys to Life Idea, but its not that much better.

That's basically ALL Pokémon is, they've been doing the same routine for the last 15 years. The Story and Gameplay remain almost exactly the same for each of their games, with few significant improvements and light changes. Some of the games such as Emerald & Platinum have so little changes that they feel more like upgrades to their sister games rather than actual sequels (imo at least), much like Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge.

As for the replay value, better than Skylanders, but still a tad disappointing. All you basically unlock is finding older Pokémon in the Wild (not very many of them either), migration of Pokémon from the current game's predecessors, stronger rivals, and Battle Frontier.

So basically, Pokémon is cool and all but it lathers, rinses, and repeats its games too much; much like Mario or Call of Duty games. I wish they would make one game with several changes that are actually significant:

- Brand New Story
- A faster, quicker way of Grinding exp
- Better, Unique Boss Fights
- Something to do with your Pokémon that doesn't involve battling (Like Skylanders Heroic Challenges, it gets old after doing it for the 100th time)
- More Maps and Areas than just one region
- NO MORE EXTRA VERSIONS!!!! Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, BW2. If they must upgrade the current games, they should turn them into DLCs or Updates instead of remaking the same Game for another $35 or $40 with a new save file. Technology has now evolved, this stuff is not cool anymore.

I will still play Pokémon through my Life though.

They added mega evolutions which added a new battle. Options

Also exp share now gives to every pokemon in your team if the equipped pokemon battles. Not to mention you gain exp ileven if you catch a pokemon now

I'm well aware of Mega Evolutions. To me, all it seems like is just another evolution of a Pokémon; just requires an item and is only temporary (2 of which are also Version Exclusive). Still not significant enough to revolutionize the franchise.

I didn't know about the Exp All until now, thanks for letting me know. However, the Pokémon that do not participate in Battle only gain half the possible experience and still does not seem fast enough to finish grinding quick. Also not significant enough.

I thought the Horde Battles were a bigger addition than it.

Yeah horde battles would be great for exp (Come on give us audino horde encounters)

Also exp all would help those who rely on mostly one pokemon instead of training everyone