darkSpyro

http://www.forbes.com/sites/er...s-to-life-game/

Pretty cool read about Skylanders and Swap Force. Nothing really new (although I don't recall seeing that Rattle Shake screen before) but they do reveal that at one point, the Swaplanders had swapable arms and heads and that the reason jumping was removed from SSA and Giants was that little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump...

Quote: spyroflame0487

little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump...

little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump
little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump

I learned how to drive in Mario Kart 64 at the age of 5. Humanity, I am dissapoint.

Quote: MoonHorizons

Quote: spyroflame0487

little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump...

little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump
little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump

I learned how to drive in Mario Kart 64 at the age of 5. Humanity, I am dissapoint.

I could not imagine this to be less true

Quote: MoonHorizons

Quote: spyroflame0487

little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump...

little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump
little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump

I learned how to drive in Mario Kart 64 at the age of 5. Humanity, I am dissapoint.

Also from Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/er...loper-ray-west/

While Spyro’s history was indeed platforming, we’d done plenty of platforming in our Madagascar games, and something we learned is that younger players have real troubles with the kinds of precise character controls involved with jumping/platforming. We’d watch Madagascar 2 playtest sessions and these 6- and 7-year-old kids literally could not walk in a straight line; they’d oversteer with their control sticks so they’d wobble back and forth, not be correctly lined up so they’d miss the jump and fall to their deaths. Over. And. Over.

I learned difficult timed jumps at 3, thanks to Crash Bandicoot.

How would kids have trouble with it? Jeez.

My first game was lego Star Wars that taught me jump and it was never that complicated

I learned to jump from Donkey Kong Country. Dang kids need to improve their gaming skills.

Another video game-related article to make you worry for today's youth:
http://www.nintendolife.com/ne...jack_these_days

We all grew up with video games and understood them fine, right?

Are kids these days dumber?

Quote: Okaps

Another video game-related article to make you worry for today's youth:
http://www.nintendolife.com/ne...jack_these_days

We all grew up with video games and understood them fine, right?

Are kids these days dumber?

That and spoiled (look at the new power rangers/transformers/showruiner of today's gen)

Yes, yes they are!
Seriously, it's true a lot of little kids I know are awful at games, but a lot are quite good!

I feel bad for the NEXT generation. They won't even be able to open doors!

..Or they can't drive cars.

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Yes, yes they are!
Seriously, it's true a lot of little kids I know are awful at games, but a lot are quite good!

Exactly
I use to be a part of a gaming club/hang out and I saw a kid die so many times on easy difficulty (forgot what game) on the first level.
Also I met a kid that I crushed in a pokemon battle. (Not at the club I met him this summer at gamestop)
His team was a single mewtwo and he told me all his moves and such (psychic, protect and 1 other psychic special attack) and allowed me to prepare my team. Thinking he couldn't lose.
I defeated him with a level 1 Rattatata (FEAR strategy)
He was so mad that he broke his DS in half.

Spoiled brat and a nub

Quote: MoonHorizons

Quote: spyroflame0487

little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump...

little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump
little kids weren't able to figure out how to jump

I learned how to drive in Mario Kart 64 at the age of 5. Humanity, I am dissapoint.

Never mind that kids of all ages since the advent of Donkey Kong in 1981 has learned to jump in games. LAME.

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I feel bad for the NEXT generation. They won't even be able to open doors!

..Or they can't drive cars.

A-men. Talking about dumbing down.

"But as it stands, we’ve spent more time as a family playing with the toys in the physical world than in the game."

The intent was to show how cool these toys in the real world, but the unintended effect to me is that there isn't enough content to enjoy the game and that it lacks re-playability. Now with 12 chapters, I wonder what they'll be saying in October...

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Never mind that kids of all ages since the advent of Donkey Kong in 1981 has learned to jump in games. LAME.

To be fair, most of the games we grew up with were on a single plane, so lining up the jumps wasn't such a mission. And even in the first 3d games, the path tended to be fairly linear - quite unlike the wide open areas in Skylanders.

This doesn't reall suprise me. I got into video-games a little later than some due to parental restricitons, but still at age 7:
-I had mastered Rainbow Road on Mariokart64 (much to the annoyance of my friends)
-Had played and was kinda good at a Mario Part on the N64
-Had played an arcade Sonic game, and had beaten the first 3 bosses.
-Could beat quite a few levels of Ms. Pac-Man (Oh fond memories of that arcade model)
-Yoshi's Island (Or whatever was on N64) was kinda easy in a fun way too.

The fact kids couldn't figure out jumping makes me just shake my head at the world today.

I don't know about you, but when I have kids, I'll be raising some Gamer babies who will be great at games.

Quote: Tel Prydain

Quote: GhostRoaster

Never mind that kids of all ages since the advent of Donkey Kong in 1981 has learned to jump in games. LAME.

To be fair, most of the games we grew up with were on a single plane, so lining up the jumps wasn't such a mission. And even in the first 3d games, the path tended to be fairly linear - quite unlike the wide open areas in Skylanders.

I get the 2d vs 3d thing. I remember cursing at Mario 64 when 3d was pretty new. But for good or bad, jump can be designed in a game to be kid friendly...as this game will obviously attest to. I even like how in some of the sections I've viewed that they make jump a requirement while at the same time retaining some of the push puzzles of the previous iterations. Maybe there will be some flaming barrels to deal with

Quote: Seiki

This doesn't reall suprise me. I got into video-games a little later than some due to parental restricitons, but still at age 7:
-I had mastered Rainbow Road on Mariokart64 (much to the annoyance of my friends)
-Had played and was kinda good at a Mario Part on the N64
-Had played an arcade Sonic game, and had beaten the first 3 bosses.
-Could beat quite a few levels of Ms. Pac-Man (Oh fond memories of that arcade model)
-Yoshi's Island (Or whatever was on N64) was kinda easy in a fun way too.

The fact kids couldn't figure out jumping makes me just shake my head at the world today.

I don't know about you, but when I have kids, I'll be raising some Gamer babies who will be great at games.

It's worth pointing out here that it's not they couldn't jump - it's that they kept MISSING the jump.

Also as to your examples:
Rainbow Road had no jumping - and it was one linear path.
Sonic was 2d.
Yoshi's Island was 2d.
Ms. Pac-Man was 2d and had no jumping.

And last but not least, lots of people on this forum are life long gamers (which is great). But what about all the other kids who never got past the forth or fifth world in Sonic. Just because the people who were good at games ended up here, lets not pretend that our generation was that much better.

I started around 4 or 5 and learned how to jump from Sonic the Hedgehog

When I was 7 I was playing SNES games like Super Mario World, DKC, TMNT: Tournament Fighters, Super Mario Kart, OH! and Mega Man X I kicked butt at Mega Man X

Good times man good times ^^

And again, that's great for you... but those are all 2d (other than the kart racer). Aiming and timing a jump in a 2d game is far, far easier than in a 3D game.

Quote: Tel Prydain

And again, that's great for you... but those are all 2d (other than the kart racer). Aiming and timing a jump in a 2d game is far, far easier than in a 3D game.

Whatever you say I didn't have any problems with Super Mario 64 or any of the other N64 games....
*shrugs* To each his own

Quote: Tel Prydain

Quote: Seiki

This doesn't reall suprise me. I got into video-games a little later than some due to parental restricitons, but still at age 7:
-I had mastered Rainbow Road on Mariokart64 (much to the annoyance of my friends)
-Had played and was kinda good at a Mario Part on the N64
-Had played an arcade Sonic game, and had beaten the first 3 bosses.
-Could beat quite a few levels of Ms. Pac-Man (Oh fond memories of that arcade model)
-Yoshi's Island (Or whatever was on N64) was kinda easy in a fun way too.

The fact kids couldn't figure out jumping makes me just shake my head at the world today.

I don't know about you, but when I have kids, I'll be raising some Gamer babies who will be great at games.

It's worth pointing out here that it's not they couldn't jump - it's that they kept MISSING the jump.

Also as to your examples:
Rainbow Road had no jumping - and it was one linear path.
Sonic was 2d.
Yoshi's Island was 2d.
Ms. Pac-Man was 2d and had no jumping.

And last but not least, lots of people on this forum are life long gamers (which is great). But what about all the other kids who never got past the forth or fifth world in Sonic. Just because the people who were good at games ended up here, lets not pretend that our generation was that much better.

For the record, if you timed it right ,you could jump over this large downhill area. Something I loved doing.

But you started on Sonic, so you knew games. How old where you when you got to N64 games, and how much experience with the controller did you have by then?
*sigh*
I'm not meaning any offense here, just saying in testing the kids where unable to land the jumps. It is what it is.

Quote: Tel Prydain

But you started on Sonic, so you knew games. How old where you when you got to N64 games, and how much experience with the controller did you have by then?
*sigh*
I'm not meaning any offense here, just saying in testing the kids where unable to land the jumps. It is what it is.

MarioKart64 was probably the first video-game I played. I was 7.

I went to a summer Day Care when I was little and they had an N64 and 4 arcade consoles (Sonic and Tails (or something with them), Ms. Pac-Man, and 2 I don't remember.)

Super mario bros, the orginal on the nes. Learned to gym when i was in kintergarden, which would make me at the time 6. So wtf are these ppl talking abt have children gotten stupider.

Super mario bros doesn't require to to navigate 3-dimensional space