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DrillSarge Gold Sparx Gems: 2327
#1 Posted: 19:28:25 04/08/2013 | Topic Creator
Since this game is about to release it is time for me to go. Im not getting into swap force like I have the past 2 skylander games. I was just wondering if anyone knew of a site that was as good as this one has been. I doubt with this being a spyro page that there will be a forum for this game. Any information is appreciated.
higherstandard Yellow Sparx Gems: 1017
#2 Posted: 19:35:13 04/08/2013
This one is pretty good:

http://www.disneyinfinityfans.com
hardcoreignitor Gold Sparx Gems: 2583
#3 Posted: 20:24:46 04/08/2013
I would suggest the DI website that Dark52 runs, Infinty Guru.
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#4 Posted: 20:24:53 04/08/2013
Check the home page. Dark runs the Infinity Guru.
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#5 Posted: 21:01:19 04/08/2013
Infinity Guru is nice but Infinity Fans has more information on it
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#6 Posted: 21:10:27 04/08/2013
Don't leave for the DI players!
Skylanders is much better overall and DI will fail to quickly
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Bazinga Blue Sparx Gems: 884
#7 Posted: 21:16:00 04/08/2013
Here is the thing..... Disney games have a hard time catching on in the states. I am not sure why but they do. I am not sure that people will be willing to give up all the money they put into Skylanders and switch to Infinity. Some people will but not everyone. I think the price point is going to be a big factor for a lot of people also. I know skylanders are not cheap but all in all they are cheaper than Infinity. I honestly hope they both do well as it will be better for everyone in the long run.
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#8 Posted: 21:58:45 04/08/2013
Disney games tend to not catch on because they're typically poorly made games. smilie

I think Infinity will start out better - we'll see if it can keep it up.

Skylanders works because, length (in particular, length vs. value) aside, it's a FUN game. So long as Dinsey understands this, they'll do fine. If they put out the licensed crap they have over the years... well, the toys won't save it.

Now, for those who think they're going to switch to save money. or have an esier time with exclusives.. heh. Wait until you see the exclusives Disney has planned. The theme-park exclusive figures will end up fetching high prices on eBay. Not to mention the Disney Rewards exclsuives that they'll probably push down the road.... smilie
DrillSarge Gold Sparx Gems: 2327
#9 Posted: 14:01:38 05/08/2013 | Topic Creator
I just want to give it a shot. Im tired of wasting so much money on a game the has very low replay value. If swap force Congress out and its a lengthy game with a little more difficulty I'll be back. If its 12 levels that can be beat in 12 minutes if the skylanders ran faster then I've lost all interest in sinking money into that again.
Pyrofer Gold Sparx Gems: 2495
#10 Posted: 14:59:24 05/08/2013
DI has "Toy Box" mode, that will be the saving grace that makes it work well.

I wish Skylanders had more to the games, with so much invested in the figures I feel they should put more into the digital content.

They should have DLC levels that don't require a Toy, I mean actual downloaded extra levels. Charge a little for them, fine, but please make them range in difficulty for adults and older gamers.
SlayerX11 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3488
#11 Posted: 15:04:50 05/08/2013
Sadly that may never happen, skylanders is geared towards small children. Online and children are things they don't want to mix. I do agree thou they need to do something other then adventure packs. I always felt they could include a small cd or something with extra levels in the pack that could patch the game/add more stuff. Thou again it's more kids will adults know to do this etc?
longsh0t Yellow Sparx Gems: 1293
#12 Posted: 15:14:16 05/08/2013
Quote: Bazinga
I am not sure that people will be willing to give up all the money they put into Skylanders and switch to Infinity.


That's assuming Disney is counting on only people who play Skylanders to switch or try DI. There are millions more who don't play Skylanders at all which I'm sure will be willing to try DI simply for the name.

If you really think about it, no one is really giving up anything. Their Skylanders aren't going to disintegrate into a pile of dust once they fire up DI on their console.

I've pre-paid for the entire first wave for DI. And even though I lost my entire Giants game save recently, I will still more than likely buy Swap Force. People can enjoy more than one franchise or type of game.
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#13 Posted: 15:17:03 05/08/2013
We'll see on Toy Box mode. "Create-your-own" tends to not be crazy-popular, but if they do it right, that could change.

I wasn't aware that the "power discs" are going to be sold in blind bags. Ouch.
GameMaster78 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3321
#14 Posted: 15:45:50 05/08/2013
Quote: DrillSarge
I just want to give it a shot. Im tired of wasting so much money on a game the has very low replay value. If swap force Congress out and its a lengthy game with a little more difficulty I'll be back. If its 12 levels that can be beat in 12 minutes if the skylanders ran faster then I've lost all interest in sinking money into that again.


Only thing that makes DI longer, content wise, is Toy Box, where people lose their lives making worlds that won't get them anywhere in life.

Outside of that, each Playset is 6-10 hours, but after that, it's Toy Box or bust.

No Heroics to max out your DI characters stats (which would take longer than playing the rumored 10 Playsets combined), no Battle Arena, no quests per character. It's just a two-trick pony (Playsets and Toy Box).

My kids will dig it, but they want Swap Force more. DI is just sloppy second filler in my household, even in my kids' eyes.
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#15 Posted: 16:37:31 05/08/2013
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Only thing that makes DI longer, content wise, is Toy Box, where people lose their lives making worlds that won't get them anywhere in life.


LOL. Pretentious much? Please explain how heroics, battle arenas and anything else you listed add to your quality of life.

With any hobby there are people who take it to the extreme such as spending all their time building virtual worlds, playing WoW, collecting numerous copies of the same Skylander so they can have multiple upgrade paths on hand, painting an entire room "Skylander Blue, planning to buy multiple copies of Swap Force figures so they can have EVERY SINGLE COMBINATION POSSIBLE.

What makes your obsession with Skylanders any different than someone who makes "worlds that won't get them anywhere in life"?
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#16 Posted: 17:19:50 05/08/2013
smilie +1

Post of the month, right here.
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#17 Posted: 17:51:37 05/08/2013
Quote: longsh0t
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Only thing that makes DI longer, content wise, is Toy Box, where people lose their lives making worlds that won't get them anywhere in life.


LOL. Pretentious much? Please explain how heroics, battle arenas and anything else you listed add to your quality of life.

With any hobby there are people who take it to the extreme such as spending all their time building virtual worlds, playing WoW, collecting numerous copies of the same Skylander so they can have multiple upgrade paths on hand, painting an entire room "Skylander Blue, planning to buy multiple copies of Swap Force figures so they can have EVERY SINGLE COMBINATION POSSIBLE.

What makes your obsession with Skylanders any different than someone who makes "worlds that won't get them anywhere in life"?


Well, with Heroics and Battle Arenas, and a story mode, you can finish all of that. Eventually, one runs out of Skylanders to level up. Heck, sometimes people don't do those period.

However, when one goes on a creation spree for games like Little Big Planet, Minecraft, and now Infinity, they never just stop at one. They're constantly building and building.

I guess I like my games to end and not run on for ages. I guess I also say this as someone whose career involves creating worlds, characters, and action, but can get paid - a lot - for it.

But it goes back to the point that Infinity's only longevity is in a creative tool used to design custom worlds. With Infinity as a whole, there is no overall story to build lore with. It's just standalone Playsets and a Toy Box, but with the Toy Box, there is no beginning, middle, and end narrative. It's just build, build, build, 'til your eyes bleed... or you get bored and finally move onto the next game.

Speaking of that last sentence, it just brought up a theory. What fun is an online based game, when most have moved on? I can't find people to play Worms, Bomberman, TMNT, with on XBLA. It's because people move from game to game so fast. So, in essence, one day, the only thing the Infinity platform will have going for it, is its standalone Playsets that costed 40 bucks for 10 hours of gameplay... each. Eventually, the's games biggest selling point will be its biggest downfall, as online for it will be deader than a doornail.

EDIT: Any my "obsession" with Skylanders won't stop me from having a life. I just know how to put things (some) into perspective. If I were to waste my life building worlds - using tools developers made for us to use while getting rich in the process - for others to enjoy while not getting paid, what could I be doing with that same amount of time, career wise? What could I do with the potential millions to be made from doing the same thing (creating), but on paper? See the world with my family? Fund my Skylanders hobby without breaking a sweat? Help those in need? The possibilities are endless.
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Windumup Emerald Sparx Gems: 3217
#18 Posted: 18:04:02 05/08/2013
When will this be released?
I want to go strike some skylander justice
I put a small army of skylanders who would appeal to the kids like wrecking ball and spyro for old school spyro fans.
Their mission is to persuade DI buyers into the skylander side.

I will help find new portal masters at my target/walmart.
Wish me luck
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GameMaster78 Emerald Sparx Gems: 3321
#19 Posted: 18:29:37 05/08/2013
Infinity releases on the 18th of this month, if that's what you're asking.

Swap Force releases on the 13th of October.
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#20 Posted: 18:30:14 05/08/2013
Quote: GameMaster78
Well, with Heroics and Battle Arenas, and a story mode, you can finish all of that. Eventually, one runs out of Skylanders to level up. Heck, sometimes people don't do those period.


And this pertains to quality of life how?

Quote: GameMaster78
However, when one goes on a creation spree for games like Little Big Planet, Minecraft, and now Infinity, they never just stop at one. They're constantly building and building.


Pretty sure that's the point.

Quote: GameMaster78
I guess I like my games to end and not run on for ages.


Weren't you the one complaining how Giants was too short?

Quote: GameMaster78
I guess I also say this as someone whose career involves creating worlds, characters, and action, but can get paid - a lot - for it.


Yes. We get it. You write scripts and there's tons of potential. There's plenty to say about this subject in regards to you and your "career" but I'll leave that one alone.

Quote: GameMaster78
But it goes back to the point that Infinity's only longevity is in a creative tool used to design custom worlds. With Infinity as a whole, there is no overall story to build lore with. It's just standalone Playsets and a Toy Box, but with the Toy Box, there is no beginning, middle, and end narrative. It's just build, build, build, 'til your eyes bleed... or you get bored and finally move onto the next game.


Again, what'st your point? Do you need a goal in everything you do? If someone jogs for enjoyment, should they stop because there's no end to it? I mean, they can still jog 2 more minutes? Jog, jog, jog until their feet bleed!

Quote: GameMaster78
Speaking of that last sentence, it just brought up a theory. What fun is an online based game, when most have moved on? I can't find people to play Worms, Bomberman, TMNT, with on XBLA. It's because people move from game to game so fast.


Yes. People move on from games. People try new things. It isn't a new concept. I'm sure there are plenty of people (myself included) who haven't touched Skylanders for quite some time but there's not wrong with that. Nor is there anything wrong with anyone who plays it day and night.

Quote: GameMaster78
So, in essence, one day, the only thing the Infinity platform will have going for it, is its standalone Playsets that costed 40 bucks for 10 hours of gameplay... each.


$25 for a battle pack that gets you a new level which can be completed in less than an hour is a better value. Got it.

Quote: GameMaster78
Any my "obsession" with Skylanders won't stop me from having a life. I just know how to put things (some) into perspective. If I were to waste my life building worlds - using tools developers made for us to use while getting rich in the process - for others to enjoy while not getting paid, what could I be doing with that same amount of time, career wise?


So just because there are some people who may take it to the extreme and spend their entire lives playing games like this you assume that everyone else is exactly that same?

Quote: GameMaster78
What could I do with the potential millions to be made from doing the same thing (creating), but on paper? See the world with my family? Fund my Skylanders hobby without breaking a sweat? Help those in need? The possibilities are endless.


Keyword: Potential. And since you're brining this subject up, weren't you the one who was stressing about money only a few months ago? You sound like a child bragging about how rich they'll be when they grow up. If you sell a script..then congrats. You worked for it then you deserve it. You just sound foolish when you talk about the "possibilities". I'm sure this will be the first place you come to brag about your "millions" though.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion (and most of what you're saying is just opinion) but that's not what I took issue with. I just find it highly ironic that a fanboy such as yourself is quick to judge anyone who might enjoy something different by saying it won't get them anywhere in life.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

I'm not Pro-DI or Anti-Skylanders. I guess I just feel like calling BS on someone on a Monday.
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#21 Posted: 18:31:48 05/08/2013
Yeah I meant DI
Cant wait to go make new portal masters via persuading people.
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#22 Posted: 19:24:56 05/08/2013
Quote: Windumup
Yeah I meant DI
Cant wait to go make new portal masters via persuading people.


There's always a stop watch to sway side-to-side, while saying "You're getting sleepy," lol. smilie

Skylanders will sell itself. Infact, they just announced that sales of Skylanders has reached 1.5 billion in revenue.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/s...=e607&ttag=e607

The cool thing about being the first, is that generally people will nostalgia all over it. People think FFVII is the best 3D FF, why? Well, it's either because people love the whole emo-trenchcoat-anime hair- long sword carrying characters like Cloud and Sephiroth, or maybe it's because it broke new ground by bringing the series into 3D. Same with Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, etc.

Skylanders is the first, while Infinity is just copying Skylanders and any game creating game that's been done already. I honestly think Activision has nothing to worry about when it comes to Skylanders vs. Infinity. Skylanders might be shorter games, compared to the supposed 10 Playsets of 10 hours each, but it makes up for it with more variety of things to do (ie Infinity's Playsets and Toy Box as opposed to Skylanders Story Mode, Heroic Challenges/Bonus Missions, Battle Arenas, Quests, Skystones, and PVP).
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#23 Posted: 19:50:49 05/08/2013
I honestly feel they are two different games, yes they share a toy on portal type concept but skylanders goes one way and DI goes another. I think both will be fine, the only thing bad i can see is if someone confuses the two and things they work together. I already know ppl that think DI is the next skylanders game and think that there skylanders work with DI.


Either way, the wifey is buying it cause shes a Disney freak so ya I guess I'll try it out. Toy box mode sounds to me like Sim City in a way, which is fine cause I love games like that once in awhile but they do get boring.


I do agree thou Skylanders needs to find a way to extend it past what comes out at launch if they are going to keep the game short, otherwise they should just sell an adventure pack expansion like 5-6months after launch, have it come with some cool figure.
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#24 Posted: 19:55:44 05/08/2013
Quote: SlayerX11
I honestly feel they are two different games, yes they share a toy on portal type concept but skylanders goes one way and DI goes another. I think both will be fine, the only thing bad i can see is if someone confuses the two and things they work together. I already know ppl that think DI is the next skylanders game and think that there skylanders work with DI.


Either way, the wifey is buying it cause shes a Disney freak so ya I guess I'll try it out. Toy box mode sounds to me like Sim City in a way, which is fine cause I love games like that once in awhile but they do get boring.


I do agree thou Skylanders needs to find a way to extend it past what comes out at launch if they are going to keep the game short, otherwise they should just sell an adventure pack expansion like 5-6months after launch, have it come with some cool figure.


Like they did with Dragons Peak (SSA) - If I remember correctly it came out in April.
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defpally Emerald Sparx Gems: 4158
#25 Posted: 19:57:00 05/08/2013
People really need to stop expecting Infinity as a clone to Skylanders. Yes, it has the portal thing, but the game is pretty much completely different. It is no more a clone than the new Angry Birds Star Wars or that Pokemon game. It uses a similar input mechanism, that's all. And I haven't seen any reference as to whether the figures store any data whatsoever, they appear to just be content unlocks.

That's isn't to say it will be a bad game. But just don't expect it to be Skylanders: Disney Edition. It'll be closer to Little Big Planet, Minecraft or maybe Toy Story 3. The competition only exists in people's heads, and only because all video games compete for a fixed pool of parent money. There is room for both on the shelf.

The game will be made or broken on the flexibility of the creation tools and the amount of fan created levels and how easy it is to find good ones. It might end up with a bunch of Super Mario rehash levels, or may inspire truly creative stuff. 99% of LBP levels are crap like trophy collection or the 8 millionth version of SMB level 1. But, every once in a while you run into something truly interesting.

Some people love open ended, world building games. Other want tight, story driven adventure games that focus on character building. Some like both. Directing someone that likes world building to Skylanders is a mistake. Likewise the inverse.
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#26 Posted: 19:59:07 05/08/2013
Quote: defpally
People really need to stop expecting Infinity as a clone to Skylanders. Yes, it has the portal thing, but the game is pretty much completely different. It is no more a clone than the new Angry Birds Star Wars or that Pokemon game. It uses a similar input mechanism, that's all. And I haven't seen any reference as to whether the figures store any data whatsoever, they appear to just be content unlocks.

That's isn't to say it will be a bad game. But just don't expect it to be Skylanders: Disney Edition. It'll be closer to Little Big Planet, Minecraft or maybe Toy Story 3. The competition only exists in people's heads, and only because all video games compete for a fixed pool of parent money. There is room for both on the shelf.

The game will be made or broken on the flexibility of the creation tools and the amount of fan created levels and how easy it is to find good ones. It might end up with a bunch of Super Mario rehash levels, or may inspire truly creative stuff. 99% of LBP levels are crap like trophy collection or the 8 millionth version of SMB level 1. But, every once in a while you run into something truly interesting.

Some people love open ended, world building games. Other want tight, story driven adventure games that focus on character building. Some like both. Directing someone that likes world building to Skylanders is a mistake. Likewise the inverse.


I agree other then the sharing a toy on a portal aspect, they are different games.
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#27 Posted: 21:58:18 05/08/2013
I haven't used it but my cousin uses Disney Infinity Fans, and has recommended it to people, and I hear positive things so maybe you can check that out. One upside Infinity Guru has is actually containing a blog, but I haven't heard any thoughts about the forum.

Anyway OP, I don't think it was a good idea to post this in this forum, as you could have searched "Disney Infinity Forum" and found Disney Infinity Fans on the first result.

Clickety Clack, it's Infinity Fans
Bippedy Boo, it's Infinity Guru

You might also have luck lurking around Tumblr as the game seems to have a decent-sized community there, but I don't know any Infinity-centered blogs.

Quote: Windumup
Yeah I meant DI
Cant wait to go make new portal masters via persuading people.

Wow
I'm just
I'm done now. Add one "failure" to your list Windumup, this fandom and the headaches it has given me may have convinced me to not even buy whatever comes after Swap Force, and maybe not even Swap Force. Judging by what's been going on here lately and the lack of staff stopping it, when Infinity and Swap Force are out practically every other topic will become a fight about which is better or contain snark against Disney and it will be impossible to find actual news or enticing discussion(and don't get me started on why that makes me want to stop playing).

OP asked for recommendations of places to go and people turned it into ANOTHER STUPID, FREAKING, ARGUMENT TOPIC ABOUT WETHER INFINITY OR SWAP FORCE WILL BE BETTER. bleep! GUYS, POST IN ONE OF THE THREE bleep TOPICS IN THE SWAP bleep FORCE FORUM!
It seems everyone complains about duplicate topics, but no! When it's the Swap Force v Infinity ones, people don't say, "we already have like seven of these topics", about those! Seriously! Stop! I came here for SKYLANDERS! If you're going to debate about it, at least have better arguments than "Infinity is a Skylanders copy". These arguments lead to nothing but bad, and repeating one's past mistakes is the height of foolishness...

Everyone- wether your a Skylanders or Infinity fan- I beg you, please don't contribute to the war between these fandoms. It's already bad enough, and gaming doesn't need another console-wars-esque battle. Just accept that some people want to buy Disney Infinity and some people want to buy Skylanders! God! Is there any gaming community out there that doesn't find interest in anything which isn't a 2hardcore4u argument?
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#28 Posted: 02:15:34 06/08/2013
Quote: SlayerX11
Sadly that may never happen, skylanders is geared towards small children. Online and children are things they don't want to mix. I do agree thou they need to do something other then adventure packs. I always felt they could include a small cd or something with extra levels in the pack that could patch the game/add more stuff. Thou again it's more kids will adults know to do this etc?


My 12 year old said "I'm done with skylanders" so I guess I can't buy the game for me since they're just targeting children. Here's an idea---if Activision is skipping features on purpose on the guise of the "for children" statement then I suggest they just fold the franchise now.
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#29 Posted: 03:46:27 06/08/2013
With an additional 500 million in revenue made between February and their latest earnings announcement this month, I doubt Skylanders will be folding anytime soon. Heck, I don't think Guitar Hero even pulled that kind of revenue each year for them.
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#30 Posted: 04:15:47 06/08/2013
This thread laughably reminds me of some Final Fantasy XI forums that I used to participate in years ago. The vast majority of the people who participated in those FFXI forums were straight-up addicts (myself included). And yet every time a shiny new MMORPG competitor (Phantasy Star Online, Aion, Final Fantasy XIV, etc.) was about to hit the market, the forums would flood with dummies touting that "I'm done with FFXI; I'm heading on to [insert new game here] when it comes out!!"

Bull ... ****.

Seriously. Ya'll that claim that you're "done with Skylanders" and that you're "not going to buy any Swap Force characters" ... ya'll are delusional. And lying to yourselves.

Inevitably, those clowns that bragged about how [insert new game here] was going to be the shizznit and that it was going to make you forget about your current passion/addiction ... they all crawled back to FFXI ... most of them within a few weeks or months, at most. And ya'll that are deluding yourselves into thinking that Disney's Infinity is going to set you free from your Skylanders passion/addiction ... ya'll will be crawling back here, too. Same ****, different day.
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#31 Posted: 05:04:41 06/08/2013
I've never been the type that gets addicted to anything, but I still play XI. Started playing during the PS2 beta in the summer of 2003 and still going strong. Went from Cactuar (beta), to Midgardsormr, to Quetzacoatl (due to merging of servers).

I agree about people who say they're done, not being done. I go off my rocker at times, but I could never quit Skylanders.
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#32 Posted: 14:47:48 06/08/2013
Quote: GhostRoaster
My 12 year old said "I'm done with skylanders" so I guess I can't buy the game for me since they're just targeting children. Here's an idea---if Activision is skipping features on purpose on the guise of the "for children" statement then I suggest they just fold the franchise now.


I think online would be very cool, and open some really great options - particularly with the Arena Battles. However the problem isn't that is it is a kids game, it is that it is aimed primarily at kids. Leaving out online is 1) cheaper development 2) eliminates the possibility of showing up on the news with some creep stalking kids. Sometimes it is better to simply not go there (at least as far as marketing is concerned).

Personally, I think if they really wanted to do it they could use parental controls to limit it, particularly voice chat. A great many parents don't even begin to know how to set up parental controls though. Until we, as a society of parents, stop freaking the heck out about "stranger danger" companies will continue to go out of their way to avoid even the chance of it.
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#33 Posted: 18:09:44 06/08/2013
i think the majority of us could care less about voice chat. if there so worried about stranger danger then just don't make voice chat possible.
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#34 Posted: 20:21:28 06/08/2013
Quote: Hazard335
i think the majority of us could care less about voice chat. if there so worried about stranger danger then just don't make voice chat possible.


That is harder than you think. Voice chat is somewhat separate from the game itself on the newer consoles and the 360. You can keep talking even if you are playing completely different games. I think one big problem is in order to play online it exposes children to the greater XBoxLive/PSN population, Nintendo limits this with "Friend Codes", but people hate those. Yes you can limit things like chat, ability to communicate and add friends - but honestly most parents have no idea how to do it. I don't agree with the philosophy that they should cater to the lowest common denominator, but I guess they are making a calculated decision that not having that feature diminishes sales less than the negative publicity of an incident.
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#35 Posted: 20:58:09 06/08/2013
Quote: defpally
Quote: GhostRoaster
My 12 year old said "I'm done with skylanders" so I guess I can't buy the game for me since they're just targeting children. Here's an idea---if Activision is skipping features on purpose on the guise of the "for children" statement then I suggest they just fold the franchise now.


I think online would be very cool, and open some really great options - particularly with the Arena Battles. However the problem isn't that is it is a kids game, it is that it is aimed primarily at kids. Leaving out online is 1) cheaper development 2) eliminates the possibility of showing up on the news with some creep stalking kids. Sometimes it is better to simply not go there (at least as far as marketing is concerned).

Personally, I think if they really wanted to do it they could use parental controls to limit it, particularly voice chat. A great many parents don't even begin to know how to set up parental controls though. Until we, as a society of parents, stop freaking the heck out about "stranger danger" companies will continue to go out of their way to avoid even the chance of it.


Frankly, given the money they've made in the game, I don't give a damn about saving Activision money. What I care about is features, and if Infinity is doing it, then you can know that Activision can do it too...anything else is just excuses.
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#36 Posted: 21:10:08 06/08/2013
I personally think online ruined the gaming industry. Then again, I have always been a very social person when around others. No shyness on this side.

I think it's a mix of systems having better graphics and online that ruined arcades. I remember arcades being a good place to meet and talk with other gamers.

During the 90's, back when people couldn't hide behind keyboards and be all anti-social when it came to gaming against or with each other, people had to have get togethers, which is something I still do today. There's nothing like a Halo "Lan Party" at my house, where I cook out steaks, burgers and dogs, or grab some pizzas, and we play system link over 2 60 inch HDTV's (4 on 4). Beats online anyday.

Now adays, you got adults acting like idiots online, because they know they can troll, because no one can see their face. I imagine kids being worse.

Again, I think online brought a bunch of laziness to gamers. Now instead of being social in person, they'd rather sit at home behind their headsets and TV's and game. God forbid people get off their bottoms and drive somewhere to game with others. It's one of the reasons the US is headed for Wall-E central, if you know what I mean.

Anyhow, online isn't all that and a bag of chips. Social get togethers for gaming curbstomps online gaming anyday. It's one of the reasons I plan on building a massive house where I live after I sell some movies. I have gaming and all sorts of social get together activities in mind. Skylander PVP tournaments (something Infinity lacks), Soul Calibur, Street Fighter, Smash Bros., New Super Mario Bros. (4 player), Left 4 Dead, Halo, Worms, and Bomberman parties: "YES PLEASE!"
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#37 Posted: 21:42:30 06/08/2013
Quote: GhostRoaster
Frankly, given the money they've made in the game, I don't give a damn about saving Activision money. What I care about is features, and if Infinity is doing it, then you can know that Activision can do it too...anything else is just excuses.


I don't care either about saving them money. Not justifying it, just stating why I think they are avoiding it.

They CAN do it. That isn't the question.

I also don't think the "protect the children" is much of an excuse. We all roll our eyes when the latest teenager gone bad inevitably rolls around to "HE PLAYED VIDEO GAMES OMG THATS WHY IT HAPPENED" in the news reports. Or the "MASS EFFECT SHOWED 2 SECONDS OF BLUE SIDE BUTT" on Fox News. Or even more dumb, our local CBS station had a "shocking" news story about Portal 2 because some local parent got upset GLADOS made fun of adoption in a single phrase. Yeah, that happened.

Every console out now has parental controls that limit online access if you are worried. Almost every game can be rented from a variety of places to try out if you are concerned about the content. The only thing preventing children from being "protected" is parent laziness. If someone is afraid their kid is going to be "harmed" by a game then rent it or at least read up on it before you give them $60 for it. I absolutely despise having my experience limited by the stupidity/laziness of others. But I see what Activision is thinking here.
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#38 Posted: 21:45:59 06/08/2013
GM: More is more. Less is not more. We want more. It's not complicated.

defpally: I agree. For all of my bemoaning Skylanders is a technically better answer, except for some of the content laziness. I do want them to keep the core intact and branch out more...I don't think I got it this time around (swaplanders concept notwithstanding).

Bahamut: I've been teetering and totering on my stance of the game...I literally can't do what I did in Giants. I am struggling with ANY investment in Swap Force because I know what will happen if I start and they haven't yet proved this edition to me (yet). We'll see.
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#39 Posted: 00:46:59 07/08/2013 | Topic Creator
Agreed. All the skylander fanboys want to feel like it's the best thing out they're so they will defend it until they die. I was a fan until they started being lazy on content and focused on making more figures. The exclusives they put out that nobody else can obtain unless spending lots on eBay. The sorry replay value. If they can do it then they won't bc so many people buy into the garbage they have given us. Time will tell but it looks like infinity has way more replay value. The chaeacters has been easy to pre order not even selling out. The only thing I see going for big bucjs is just the early release of figures we can all own at some point. There are alot of people not getting involved in either game. For me I'll go with the company that owns star wars bc that's what I like. Sinking a fortune into swap force or even a penny will be difficult for me unless the gameplay is worth it. Activision has let me down to many times. They charge us 80 $ for a game that couldhave been sold on xbox arcade for 10 bucks. Remember your on a spyro fanboy website. Hardly anyone will agree with anything negative you have to say here. They won't admit to the truth. THE FANS MADE THIS GAME POPULAR but what does activision do? They make exclusives for their employees while we spend hours and gallons od gas finding one exclusive. At least they made a blue fan exclusive bash last time around. The fans get no appreciation. Nobody knows going fwd how all of this will pan out but disney has always flooded the market with their products and supported their fans. This game could change all that but from every I've seen the lone ranger level is bigger than every skylander giants level put together and that's one play pack. Swap force could prove me wrong but with activisions history of laziness and loss of major titles in the past to other developers they adjust have a track record of getting rich quick and producing lazy garbage without taking any of their fans considerations unlike ea sports and other companies they devote mesage boards to fans wishlist and try to give their fans what they want in a game. Right now skylanders is for collectors of toys. They shouldn't even make a game abs just pump out skylander action figures because its turned into a collectors dream not a gamers Paradise or en a decent game. If they made no figured this series would have ended a long time ago but soon we will really be able to judge the truth. Until then I agree with all the bad comments on skylanders this will just be the last time I post it here bx nobody here will agree or want to hear it bc they've sunk thousands into the franchise and don't want to see their collection for whatIit is.....less than what they paid for it. I hope I'm wrong I really do bc I was so excited for giants bit hunting a yearllater for figures of a below average game is just so wrong I'm really over it. Trust me I really hope I'm wrong but I have a feeling history will repeat itself. Its kind of like playstation one owning the market until microsoft came along. How can you not chose a powerhouse like Microsoft their technology is better than the competitions. Disney is that powerhouse. Only time will tell how they throw their weight around or if it will be a repeat of garbage, lazy gaming with collecting as a priority or if they will make gaming the first priority and allow the collecting of digits to just add to the fun. Sorry my rant is over its just my opinion but that's the way I see it. Before you all blast me trust me I hope I'm dead wrong this is just how it appears at the moment and I'm glad to see an alternative to activisions laziness.
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#40 Posted: 01:55:29 07/08/2013
I agree that Activision should return to more chapters and more gaming content for the future Skylanders releases.
That said, I thoroughly enjoy the Giants game on PS3. Thoroughly. Both as an adult casual gamer on my own and as a parental gamer for my sons. I would have loved some more add-on content (much like the "Adventure Packs" during the SSA release cycle) along with the protracted sloooooooow release of the Series 2 characters during the first half of 2013. Activision definitely could have done better there. But aside from that, I'm pleased with Giants, and I anticipate that SwapForce will be similar or better on content.

As for the figurines (especially for GhostRoaster, who I know personally ... but also for anyone else who has handcuffed themselves to a "collect them all or bust!!" mentality during the Giants release cycle this year), my best advice is actually rather simple: buy the Series 3 characters that you actually LIKE and/or actually WANT. YOU be the boss of deciding when your collection is "complete". Don't let Activision dictate that for you.
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