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if every one in the world died, the world would be better off D:

If everyone in the world died, then how would anyone know the world would be better off?

Humans-er, I mean we wouldn't be damaging every aspect of the planet that could prove very useful if conquered.....


In all seriousness, we the world would be better off without us as the world happened to run perfectly fine until we showed up after the dinosaurs.....

True, without humans many of the extinct species would still exist.

Not always. Other species can be destructive too.

Humans have done a lot of good things to.

Yes, but that falls under natural selection and takes time.
Where as humans are extremely destructive on a very small time scale.

Still, if we hadn't existed, then the dinosaurs would be the ones "ruining" the planet.

And if we hadn't existed, we wouldn't know the world existed since we never existed.

Look, I'm all for helping the environment, but my god, do you seriously HAVE to hate your own race? Humans aren't all bad. Yes, we do cause a lot of damage, but we're not useless. And yes, we've caused a lot of damage, but who's to say that we can't figure out ways to UNDO our damage? And you value the lives of extinct species over that of all your family and friends? That's crazy.

I know it sometimes seems like we're bad, yes, but if we put our heads together and work, we can repair it. We have to join forces and decide that we're going to make this world a better place for ourselves, our children, our children's children and their children. We need to put aside our petty differences and realize that we all play an equal part in taking care of ourselves and the planet. I know that if we all work together, we can do it. Let's get to work.

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Still, if we hadn't existed, then the dinosaurs would be the ones "ruining" the planet.

.......Humans didn't kill dinosaurs. Dinosaurs died because of a meteor in....New Mexico, if iirc, that killed most species of dinosaurs. The rest? Simply died, likely unable to reproduce*. Humans existed LOOOOOOONG after dinosaurs.

Any animals on the top of the food chain would be ruining the planet. Like lions.

*i don't know this part for a fact; the rest is what i learned in school this year

I think what DummyZ meant is that if humans and other animals never evolved, then dinosaurs wouldn't have died out, which isn't necessarily true.

Also Baro, the meteor caused a chain reaction which led to climatic weather patterns and chemicals in the atmosphere and whatnot. That's really what killed the dinosaurs, the meteor only took out a small percentage of them.

This reminds me of the TMNT episode: Shredder Ville. https://www.youtube.com/result...ube.DKVtdfjiJag Watch the first 3 videos.

Then Penguins become the dominant race.

Its not sad! Its the future! But I refuse to leave my labrador behind when the apocalypse comes..

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Still, if we hadn't existed, then the dinosaurs would be the ones "ruining" the planet.

yeah. humans killed dinosaurs, i think humans should bring back dinosaurs using science and every human should kill themselves to make the world the way it was meant to be

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Still, if we hadn't existed, then the dinosaurs would be the ones "ruining" the planet.

yeah. humans killed dinosaurs, i think humans should bring back dinosaurs using science and every human should kill themselves to make the world the way it was meant to be

I didn't mean it in that way.

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Still, if we hadn't existed, then the dinosaurs would be the ones "ruining" the planet.

The dinosaurs died without us around anyway -___-'

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Look, I'm all for helping the environment, but my god, do you seriously HAVE to hate your own race? Humans aren't all bad. Yes, we do cause a lot of damage, but we're not useless. And yes, we've caused a lot of damage, but who's to say that we can't figure out ways to UNDO our damage? And you value the lives of extinct species over that of all your family and friends? That's crazy.

I know it sometimes seems like we're bad, yes, but if we put our heads together and work, we can repair it. We have to join forces and decide that we're going to make this world a better place for ourselves, our children, our children's children and their children. We need to put aside our petty differences and realize that we all play an equal part in taking care of ourselves and the planet. I know that if we all work together, we can do it. Let's get to work.

Sadly, that will never happen.

No, what's sad is when you buy ear buds and they give three large rubber parys, one medium sized rubber part, and three small rubber parts.

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Look, I'm all for helping the environment, but my god, 1do you seriously HAVE to hate your own race? Humans aren't all bad. Yes, we do cause a lot of damage, but we're not useless. And yes, we've caused a lot of damage,2 but who's to say that we can't figure out ways to UNDO our damage? And3 you value the lives of extinct species over that of all your family and friends? That's crazy.

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1) no i do not hate our race, but i believe that we are to lazy to see ahead

2) it's to late, the co2 level passed the no return zone( 400 parts per million) the only thing we can do now is try to stabilized it........

3) you pulled that out of your a$$, i did not say that D:<

And how do you propose we 'fix' things? Mass suicide?

And yes, let's ignore the good things humans have done, and focus solely on the bad. And say if every single human, no matter how good, died, everything would be better.

Yes. Makes perfect sense.

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Look, I'm all for helping the environment, but my god, 1do you seriously HAVE to hate your own race? Humans aren't all bad. Yes, we do cause a lot of damage, but we're not useless. And yes, we've caused a lot of damage,2 but who's to say that we can't figure out ways to UNDO our damage? And3 you value the lives of extinct species over that of all your family and friends? That's crazy.

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1) no i do not hate our race, but i believe that we are to lazy to see ahead

2) it's to late, the co2 level passed the no return zone( 400 parts per million) the only thing we can do now is try to stabilized it........

3) you pulled that out of your a$$, i did not say that D:<

1. Oh ok.
2. That's REAL comforting.
3. I know you didn't mean it, but it just goes to show, when you say something of that nature, people will take any sort of meaning from it.


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And how do you propose we 'fix' things? Mass suicide?

And yes, let's ignore the good things humans have done, and focus solely on the bad. And say if every single human, no matter how good, died, everything would be better.

Yes. Makes perfect sense.

This. Aran, I have a question: By dissing the rest of the human race, are you trying to imply that you're superior to everyone else?

Some animals live longer in captivity because there's no animals there to kill them.

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1) And how do you propose we 'fix' things? Mass suicide?

And yes, 2let's ignore the good things humans have done, and focus solely on the bad. And say if every single human, no matter how good, died, everything would be better.

Yes. Makes perfect sense.

1) umm no :/
humans are a very rare animal, to our knowledge we are the only animals that achieved sentient thought. to kill ourselves would be a slap to the face of 3.5 billion years of evolution.

2 i'm not solely looking at the bad side of humanity, i'm looking at the collective of humanity. and the collective of humanity, is not treating that planet that well :/
for example...
last week i planted 100 trees. but in the same area, loggers are cutting down 10,000 trees.
even tho if i helped the environment, there is still a loss of 9,900 trees.

and you guys are seeing this all wrong, it's not like we throw in the towel and give up.
i'll give you that same example....
if my population of my small town planted 10 trees than the 10,000 that got cut down would be replaced by 30,640 thus a gain of 20640

do you understand it now :/

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1) umm no :/
humans are a very rare animal, to our knowledge we are the only animals that achieved sentient thought. to kill ourselves would be a slap to the face of 3.5 billion years of evolution.

That right there

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if every one in the world died, the world would be better off D:

I believe you may have just contradicted yourself.

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2 i'm not solely looking at the bad side of humanity, i'm looking at the collective of humanity. and the collective of humanity, is not treating that planet that well :/
for example...
last week i planted 100 trees. but in the same area, loggers are cutting down 10,000 trees.
even tho if i helped the environment, there is still a loss of 9,900 trees.

But saying if WE ALL DIED, IT WOULD BE BETTER? Still a contradiction. If every single human on this whole damn planet died, who would replant those fallen trees then?

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and you guys are seeing this all wrong, it's not like we throw in the towel and give up.
i'll give you that same example....
if my population of my small town planted 10 trees than the 10,000 that got cut down would be replaced by 30,640 thus a gain of 20640

AND AGAIN

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if every one in the world died, the world would be better off D:

YOU JUST PRETTY MUCH SAID JUST THAT

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do you understand it now :/

I don't think you even understand a word you're saying.

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I believe you may have just contradicted yourself

i could see how this is a contradiction saying if we all disappeared it would be better for the earth and if we did disappear it would be a slap to evolution ancestors. but i'm not trying to say that...

i'm trying to say, with our ancestors that reach from million of years to present time. it would be a slap to the face for them if all for there hard work just to have there predecessor just decided to drop dead. but right now we are ****ing up the earth, and if something happened to us, the world would not just be living but it would also be thriving.


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But saying if WE ALL DIED, IT WOULD BE BETTER? Still a contradiction. If every single human on this whole damn planet died, who would replant those fallen trees then?

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the trees would create offspring like they have been doing for the past millions of years. but only now there would be no mass deforestation and no pyromaniacs to **** with the trees.... and how is that a contradiction :/

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YOU JUST PRETTY MUCH SAID JUST THAT

said what? the way you are cutting the quotes, i can hardly understand your point...


and lol i feel like we are doing this with one another ^__^

Almost everything in this thread...my god, people. I get tired of people saying "I hate everyone", sure, but really...why were we so quick to jump onto aran's back?

I'm pretty sure he more so means if we dropped off the planet right now, not what we could do or are capable of. We are degrading the planet as our population grows and grows out of control, our resources will not last and we devour things that are nearly irreplaceable. Of course, any beings in any organized way can do great harm and great good, this is what history has told us and what recent keeps telling us.

The whole "humans need to be here to replant trees so you're contradicting yourself" point is hardly a good point. The earth would take itself over after humans are theoretically gone, we have not scarred the world beyond repair in such an aspect that trees can't reproduce and that plant life cannot strive.

If we all just dropped dead, our corpses happen to be great nutrients and fertilizers as well, and will aid in growth. Of course, the lack of humans would also cause drastic shifts, likely in certain weather patterns and so forth, or perhaps we don't actually have as much of an influence than we think...and even with nuclear plants going off under lack of maintenance, and drastic apocalyptic changes could occur...life adapts, which is what history has also taught us. Humans have definitely adapted, however, ignorant in the beginnings and thus we adapted for our species instead of the planet we live on for most part. Our "pets" would die or find some sort of way to survive, but since there are so many creatures that are so dependant on us and all...

Something else, although, may come to the top of the food chain and may achieve equal destruction. It's not like the world would be "paradise" without us...it never has been.

Of course, this is all opinion on most part and much like predicting the weather by eye in this thread, by looking at the sky you can say it might rain, but with only this look you could also say it might storm, hail or thunder, and some may say it has an equal chance for more than the other or equally. You can mix science, facts and so forth within - but remember there will always be people who will find any way to optimist and chop down the other forces with it with, as well as the same way around.

The future remains variable, although - I believe in people, and of course I believe their ability to do good - no, their ability to achieve excellency and understanding with little harm to others, but it seems most of us need a huge kick in the face or push in the right directions. Hear about the plans to "plunder the arctic" of resources? Yeah...

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Hear about the plans to "plunder the arctic" of resources? Yeah...

i read about that. are they still planing to create an off shore oil rig....
i see nothing but bad news written all over that. looked how hard it was the close the BP leak, now picture that leak thousands of miles away with hurricane winds and 30 foot waves and all the ice....

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the trees would create offspring like they have been doing for the past millions of years. but only now there would be no mass deforestation and no pyromaniacs to **** with the trees.... and how is that a contradiction :/

I know about that, I was speaking within your example of humans replanting the trees. I'm not that stupid. But apologies for not clarifying. I knew I should've edited that to fix it, but too late now.

There are some things pointed out here I do agree with, but the attitude this topic opened with made me a bit...well, snappy. So, sorry, I guess.

But eh, I'm just gonna leave this topic.

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the trees would create offspring like they have been doing for the past millions of years. but only now there would be no mass deforestation and no pyromaniacs to **** with the trees.... and how is that a contradiction :/

I know about that, I was speaking within your example of humans replanting the trees. I'm not that stupid. But apologies for not clarifying.

But eh, I'm just gonna leave this topic.

yea... i think this debate was fun... but im going to close this topic

yea i'm also sorry, i was also to getting snappy.....forgiveness hug :3

Aran, by creating this topic, you have pretty much shat on the entire S&N board. I know you didn't mean any harm, and I'm definitely not one to talk, but please......Think before you post.

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the trees would create offspring like they have been doing for the past millions of years. but only now there would be no mass deforestation and no pyromaniacs to **** with the trees.... and how is that a contradiction :/

I know about that, I was speaking within your example of humans replanting the trees. I'm not that stupid. But apologies for not clarifying.

But eh, I'm just gonna leave this topic.

yea... i think this debate was fun... but im going to close this topic

yea i'm also sorry, i was also to getting snappy.....forgiveness hug :3

Forgiveness hug. :3

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Aran, by creating this topic, you have pretty much shat on the entire S&N board. I know you didn't mean any harm, and I'm definitely not one to talk, but please......Think before you post.

this topic was just a vague innocent sentence and it just spiral down into a cluster ****i dont know why but i loved watching the topic go down hill :/

well i think this is a good time to close the topic

OH GOSH !!!!!

<3 A fight has broken out???? What do?

Well, I GUESS if it continues and it is not resolved calmly and gently i can just close it (*^u^)

then again it COULD resolve calmly and gently, gosh josh mosh, i hope it does~! (*OuO)

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Aran, by creating this topic, you have pretty much shat on the entire S&N board. I know you didn't mean any harm, and I'm definitely not one to talk, but please......Think before you post.

this topic was just a vague innocent sentence and it just spiral down into a cluster ****i dont know why but i loved watching the topic go down hill :/

well i think this is a good time to close the topic

Not yet. We must see what becomes of it.

^ we could go down the rabbit hole and see what happens :3

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Aran, by creating this topic, you have pretty much shat on the entire S&N board. I know you didn't mean any harm, and I'm definitely not one to talk, but please......Think before you post.

this topic was just a vague innocent sentence and it just spiral down into a cluster ****i dont know why but i loved watching the topic go down hill :/

well i think this is a good time to close the topic

Not yet. We must see what becomes of it.

Lol You guys just have to push a topic as far as it can go don't you.


Anyway, I won't say all humans should die, but a good 90% probably deserve to. Especially those mother******* back in Ohio and Colorado that poisoned my dogs I say most people are sick sadistic ********!

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Aran, by creating this topic, you have pretty much shat on the entire S&N board. I know you didn't mean any harm, and I'm definitely not one to talk, but please......Think before you post.

this topic was just a vague innocent sentence and it just spiral down into a cluster ****i dont know why but i loved watching the topic go down hill :/

well i think this is a good time to close the topic

Not yet. We must see what becomes of it.

Well, discuss it in PM. If this ends in mud and blood, I'm not gonna be your maid.

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