darkSpyro

There's some speculation that Heroics are not coming back but instead are being replaced with side missions which are unlocked in the game itself. If this is true, this is pretty interesting as now they are effectively de-coupling any specific content you would get from a skylander in the game.

So, my questions...

1. If this is true, I'd love to see the source (please--no one talking in youtube video unless it's Activision themselves)

2. How long are these side missions?

3. Are there new elements of the skylander itself that we can upgrade on this release or is it the same stats?

4. Are these updated stats still being stored in the skylander or in the game? I'm assuming figure still but since the mechanic is slightly different might as well verify.

5. Is there any specific content that will unlock for your skylanders? If not, it definitely helps with a decision I may have to make.

6. Will all of the hard work you used to upgrade your skylanders in SSA and SG be read to allow your upgraded stats be used in Swap Force, or are they effectively ignoring them for the release. I'm assuming the level will be used but not the other stats based on the Giants precedent, but again would like to verify.

I hate cali but, Keep heroic

Quote: GigaCamo

I hate cali but, Keep heroic

I'm fine with a "future" concept of Heroics, I'm also in line with unlocking SERIOUS content from the skylanders to justify continued re-purchases. Moving away from this model makes it very easy for me to stop buying them for gaming purposes (but perhaps still collect them from a collectables standpoint).

I'm not fine with every heroic coming back with EVERY SINGLE RELEASE as that is mind numbing. I'm thinking about a lobotomy from the zillions of times I've played them already.

So, two aspects I want to talk about: is de-coupling content REALLY going to happen? And how can we make upgrading skylanders more interesting as heroics in general has a scalability problem as well as being very monotonous over time.

Hmmmm... To tell you the truth, that doesn't sound like a bad idea.

They should in my oponion have both heroics and the side missions.

So basically, we don't have to buy every single Skylanders figures in order to add "side missions"? I don't mind heroic challenges, but sometimes I think they are such a huge waste of time. I'd like to make all my favorite Skylanders stronger in much faster ways.

^That's the rumor on the street. They are very much a huge time sink. 2 hours per skylander x 100 = 200 hours of your life down the tubes. I also think if Auric shop's around there should be something like "Completely upgrade your skylander stats" for 65,000 or something like that. Price of entry has to be high enough for you to REALLY want to buy it (of course, someone will find a money cheat or the ones that exist in the first two games).

Also, we hear that the legendary treasure can be used to amp up stats as well---I wonder if one of them could be used to make any skylander on the portal "upgraded" instantly?

I don't want Heroics to return. There are already 50 of them at the moment, and we certainly don't need another 30 or so.

Yeah, and some of them are so annoying with certain characters. Plus, in Giants, I didn't buy too many new characters, for the most part just using my SSA collection, so my new Giants could only access a few challenges.

i think this is great news. no more going to hunt down that particular s2/s3 variant because i need the heroics.

also there is talk about cali getting her own adventure pack. so that can be a good sign the heroics as we know them are gone, and they have all been included ingame...

Interesting point, with no Heroics Cali is freed up and has more time, maybe she joined the 'landers?

What legendary treasure do you speak of, GhostRoaster?

Quote: TheShadowDragon

What legendary treasure do you speak of, GhostRoaster?

In one of the many E3 videos, they talked about Legendary Treasure being used now for "upgrades" and other in-game stat changes. I suspect they are going to do away with upgrading skylanders (or minimize it with removing Heroics) on this release...which admittedly is a grueling and montonous task if you have 100+ to upgrade, but ultimately will help REDUCE potential game time if this is the case.

What did Han Solo say? "I have a bad feeling about this."

I'm sure there's going to be a new and wonderful spin, but I'm hoping it will "add" to the experience as opposed to "take away". I'm hoping gameplay mechanic specifics are going to be covered soon.

Quote: kappapopm

i think this is great news. no more going to hunt down that particular s2/s3 variant because i need the heroics.

It's a double edged sword...it's good that if this the case you can now theoritically upgrade any skylander without buying all of them. It's bad from the standpoint that they've now reduced the value/reason for someone to buy these. If they didn't add content, then they must think they've grown to a point that they don't think it's necessary. I think there should be a reward for someone to WANT to buy these and I think Heroics was a good first step but they need to find another reason. Not sure what it is, frankly. Heroics as originally designed does not scale well after you get 100+ skylanders. On the other hand, without this huge commitment of time (b/c I have so many of them)...not sure if I would be playing it now or even a few months ago.

The smart thing to do would just not be lazy and create new heroics/stages for old characters/adventure stages. I was apalled when I booted up Dragon's Peak in Giants and found the exact same stage from SA.

No worries about that happening in SSF, you'll put your Dragon's Maze on the portal for it to load up....Nothing.

Yeah, NOW you can be TRULY appalled lol.

Quote: Terreneflame

No worries about that happening in SSF, you'll put your Dragon's Maze on the portal for it to load up....Nothing.

now he will just be even moar apalled...

Quote: Terreneflame

No worries about that happening in SSF, you'll put your Dragon's Maze on the portal for it to load up....Nothing.

wait if the past adventure packs dont work
1. how will we get the hats in them?
2. wouldnt they be lying about all the old figures working in the game?

Quote: Ninpire

Quote: Terreneflame

No worries about that happening in SSF, you'll put your Dragon's Maze on the portal for it to load up....Nothing.

wait if the past adventure packs dont work
1. how will we get the hats in them?
2. wouldnt they be lying about all the old figures working in the game?

So in their mind apparently "figures" are the skylanders characters themselves, not the adventure packs, magic items, location items etc. They may be in fact shooting them in the foot on sales of the new adventure packs if they know that they are end of life certain physical toys.

I played Pirate Seas, Empire of Ice and Dragon's Peak and found it to be a SHELL of an adventure, done in haste. If they can't bring more value than this for $25 or so (when the entire game is double this) I say adventure packs need to go away. I personally love the idea behind them, but I'd personally be ok with adventure packs being for a CERTAIN GAME ONLY but bringing SIGNIFICANTLY MORE CONTENT (2-3 times what I saw).

Quote: Ninpire

wait if the past adventure packs dont work
1. how will we get the hats in them?
2. wouldnt they be lying about all the old figures working in the game?

1. Can just sell them in a store, or hide them in normal levels
2. I’d bet they will work as spells, just not as levels.

Quote: GhostRoaster

I played Pirate Seas, Empire of Ice and Dragon's Peak and found it to be a SHELL of an adventure, done in haste.

They were all just as long as any ‘long’ SSA level. I think people misremember how long the SSA levels actually were, and that’s part of why people thing SG was short. They forget that half the SSA levels were tiny.

Maybe the old adventure packs will still work as magic items.

Quote: Tel Prydain

They were all just as long as any ‘long’ SSA level. I think people misremember how long the SSA levels actually were, and that’s part of why people thing SG was short. They forget that half the SSA levels were tiny.

You have a point.