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#1 Posted: 17:48:39 31/12/2012 | Topic Creator
This is just my opinion. The lightcore figures should all have been of the newlanders. Series 2 figures beat out the lightcore because they can switch paths and have wow pow. So if the lightcore were of the newlanders more people would be buying them so they could have a second newlander to have their alternate path.
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#2 Posted: 17:51:16 31/12/2012
I think it should have been the 8 that did not get a repose.
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#3 Posted: 18:06:32 31/12/2012 | Topic Creator
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That would also be great. Anything is better than having the same figure as series 1, series 2, and lightcore. |
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#4 Posted: 18:53:54 31/12/2012
There really is no reason the lightcore figures needed to have a standard repose as well.
Quote: joerox123
I think they did a good job in picking out what characters were lightcore (though I did find it odd that Eruptor got it over Ignitor). However, the 8 that were ignored should have totally been included as well. |
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#5 Posted: 19:38:45 31/12/2012
I don't really like lightcore. They don't light up very well.. or at least, the ones I've seen.
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#6 Posted: 20:12:21 31/12/2012
Yeah i only really like Eruptor's lightcore and even that isn't great. i just prefer the poses of the LC compared to the newlanders/reposes. Also if the 8 left out were LC, this would have been AWESOME
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#7 Posted: 20:44:45 31/12/2012
Quote: Hexin_Wishes
Wait until the 2013 game. That's when the "forgotten" Skylanders come back, they rotate different ones onto the shelved list, and they'll have gates that can only be accessed by a Lightcore Skylander of the appropriate element. (They need to add some sort of in-game gimmick to make them sell - Lightcore Eruptor, Prism Break and Drobot line the shelves in every store around here the way Wrecking Ball used to.) Odds are they'll just invent a new term for all figures for the new game - "Esper" or something - and give another new ability that only those newest figures will be able to obtain. So you'll need to have Lightcore Gill Grunt to access the Lightcore Water gates, and Esper Gill Grunt to have the Wow-Pow and newest ability. As well as Series 1 Gill Grunt to be able to access "Old School" gates that will be inaccessible to figures from Series 2 or above ... At which point the game will suffered the Activision Effect and that'll be the end of it. |
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#8 Posted: 20:48:46 31/12/2012
What is the Activision effect?
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#9 Posted: 21:19:15 31/12/2012
Quote: gillgrunt987
Make a sequel every year and not improve it much. It happened to Tony Hawk, Guitar Hero, and will happen to COD.
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#10 Posted: 21:27:42 31/12/2012
Quote: wgeorge111
all newlanders should been lightcore and there shouldn't be any s2 repose. all the older heroic challenges you should be able to buy in the ingame shop.. the pow wow should be done with older ssa and changing path for all skylanders allowed. 16 new ones and 5 legendaries is more than enough for the giants... THATS IT.. and there should be a online gaming option for the co-op, arena/battle and even skystone.... so there have been a point in upgrading all your skylanders after you have finished the game and collecting the skystones... IF NOTHING OF THIS IS DONE NEXT TIME... WE HAVE ANOTHER GUITAR HERO SCANDAL IN THE MAKING... the marked is now over saturated with figurines you never gonna have use for... THAT IS A FACT. the game is based on 8 elements... yeah you read right 8 elements... that's mean you ONLY NEED 8 FIGURINES to complete and explore the game to its fully. and here we are with two games and nearly over hundreds of figurines to buy... both game you finish in one week the rest is grind and repeat until you puke. its crazy... don't get me wrong the skylanders is a good game but all the figurines is just to much... for a game like this. it all just start to feel like another guitar hero allover again. AND THAT IS WHERE ACTIVISION WENT WRONG... they over saturated the marked. by the time we enter summer 2013 all shop will be stuffed with skylanders and very little is selling, mark my words. |
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#11 Posted: 21:57:44 31/12/2012
I agree with you, kappa. They need to cheapen the skylanders, or not as much peiple will buy them. Kids wont have the cash, collectors wont have the cash, activision will scrap slylanders, and a great game will be lost, all because acti pushed the prices. I predict that by april the skylanders will be out of interest. Just stop, activision.
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#12 Posted: 22:06:05 31/12/2012
You know what's worse? Activision was building up all this hype about the Lightcores like as if these would be more popular than the regular ones, but overall, they aren't all that special when you look at all the negatives and each one of the cons is worse than the next.
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#13 Posted: 22:12:45 31/12/2012
Kappa.
That was perfect. Not only will the toys stuff the shelves, Activision will rush everything and have nothing left in the summer. |
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#14 Posted: 22:20:09 31/12/2012
The worst problem with LightCore: NO Wow Pow..
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#15 Posted: 22:54:58 31/12/2012
To me and anyone who doesn't want to be cheated off they should have at least either the wow pow or the path switching but no, they get neither and that only makes them worse with the price.
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#16 Posted: 23:15:51 31/12/2012
Quote: kappapopm
this. ^ |
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#17 Posted: 23:26:27 31/12/2012
Lightcores should have:
-Something else besides the special Lightbomb ability. Or some way to control it. Like a special meter that charges so you can unleash it whenever you want. The ability is completely useless if you want to use the character from the beginning of the level. -NOT gotten S2 reposes as well. There was no need to have an S1 character, a Lightcore AND an S2 repose. The LC should have been the "S2" for the character, and that'd allow ALL of the characters to have been remade (for what I assume is futureproofing) -an increase in stats, or something to make them special. Just their model glowing in game isn't really worth the higher price tag. From what it looks like to me, the LCs also weren't very clear on the whole "light up" feature. (Which is why they all carry the new "LIGHTS UP!" sticker now). From that, and looking at figures from the racks, there's nothing to show that the LCs are different than the regulars except for the small holographic thing in their front. Personally, the ENTIRE blister should have had a pseudo- holographic blister along with the sparkly looking name tag. To a parent or average consumer, they look identical to the regular versions, and probably have made people angry getting to checkout with a higher price.
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#18 Posted: 00:00:23 01/01/2013
Quote: Ryanator20x6
I honestly don't know how CoD has remained as popular as it is. I stopped playing the series after CoD4/MW1. WaW/MW2/BO/MW3/BO2 was the downfall to me. CoD2/CoD4 were the best, IMO. Also, ever since Blizzard and Activision merged WoW has pretty much gotten worse. The past two expansions (Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria) at least IMO were/are pretty bad overall. I wouldn't be surprised if Activision got Stealth Elf from a Night Elf Rogue in WoW (one of the more popular races for a Rogue, next to Undead). EDIT: On-topic: I will be skipping all LC's entirely. There really is no point. If Legendary Lightcore Chill is actually true (not sure if confirmed or not), that'll probably be the only one I ever buy. I'll also probably stop playing the game/buying the figures if no online is added in Skylanders 3 as well.
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#19 Posted: 01:24:02 01/01/2013
i will tell you guys something.... i beat skylander giants nightmare mode with old skylanders from the first game (done 43 heroic challenges and level 15) i only need tree rex, jetvac and pop fizz 5 times in a 16 level game the rest was done with ssa spyro, eruptor, elf, chop chop and god old hated stump smash... and all was done on one day.
what does that tell you?... there isnt much game for over hundreds of figurines.. and your left with a hell of a lot of grinding... there is a lot of cool skylanders no doubt there. but would it be best to let some of them get released with a skylanders 3 game, so you got some new game play to level up with?? i dont mind if its a short game as long its good but here activision is focusing more on these figurines than the game.. what about using more of the time bug fixing and improving what you got??. no no no activision and bobby dont do that... cash in all you can while it last is the agenda... i feel sorry for toys for bob. |
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#20 Posted: 01:49:08 01/01/2013
Quote: Thumpterra12
They pushed the price because A People keep buying them to the point of sold out so they do sell and B scalpers to not get as much profit off of it.
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#21 Posted: 02:05:32 01/01/2013
Quote: WickedRogue
but there ain't much for scalper this time to get.. the waves that is out is out in the shops... people buying from scalper are people that dont drive to the shop or cant get the skylanders the ordinary way... all shop i went to before xmas was full of skylanders only missing hothead but i guess that is a regional thing... and hot head will be here... there will be no problem getting the 16 new skylanders in the summer of 2013, the shops will have a lot of all of them.. at least in my region i know.. like in 2012 summer i was at a lot of shop all was full and couple of month before xmas they was still full of the ssa figurines and got all new expect hot head of the newer skylanders... the shops maybe slow here compared to the usa shops.. but everything got here.. and shops full everywhere now.. |
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#22 Posted: 03:42:36 01/01/2013
Omg you read my mind.
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#23 Posted: 04:30:11 01/01/2013
I don't get the deal with Lightcores at all.
I never did plan on getting them again (which I can say the same for Series 2... except Stealth Elf as she's my top move favorite since the 1st day I found out about her and of course when I finally got her in my possession). The originals with lightcores should have the ability though like series 2 to change their path and the Wow Pow. Just because they "light up" shouldn't make their prices that high either. Even then though, I think the whole series 2 thing is a bit bogus too, which is why I refuse to buy any. Other than a few stats and a new power, I see no reason to get a Skylander I have already, which of course limit me in heroics which I think is also another rip off. I do agree with Kappa though, either that all the old skylanders should have their heroics in the game, or the ability to buy them within the game. Their set up is just greedy and ripping off the fans of skylanders. |
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#24 Posted: 04:41:44 01/01/2013
the deal about pow wow, heroic challenges is to get you to buy more figurines than you need.... if it should be fair.. then you only needed to buy 8 new giants and then just upgraded your old ssa figurines....... thats what i call that's fair...
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#25 Posted: 04:47:25 01/01/2013
Quote: kappapopm
What I think would be fair is... Original Skylanders get level 15, Wow Pow, Stats altered to be Series 2 (they're already altered as I noticed my stats were completely different since day 1 I played Giants), and their Heroics unlocked with them and the chance to switch between paths. New 8 Skylanders should get the same thing the originals get as I stated (minus the series 2 as there is no series 2 for new ones) with their own form of a Wow Pow too. Giants will get exactly what I stated for the new ones. So pretty much they should've just made 16 new skylanders to get and that's that. |
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#26 Posted: 04:54:36 01/01/2013
Quote: Laurix
Legendary LightCore Chill is realz.
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#27 Posted: 08:05:18 05/01/2013
Quote: kappapopm
YOU JUST TOOK MY THOUGHTS FOR THIS GAME AND LEGITAMIFIED IT. but seriously though, they went OVERBOARD with the figures. 1. WE DONT NEED NEW FIGURES OF OLD FIGURES WE BOUGHT LAST YEAR 2. legendaries are nice, but limit it to one per element. 3.NOBODY LIKES GIANT VARIANTS. 4. lightcores are ok 5.WHY EVEN ADD TRUE VARIANTS? SSA was a good game, SG tbh, was a try-hard.
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#28 Posted: 10:42:23 05/01/2013
Quote: kappapopm
you need 9 skylanders to beat the game which can be a giant of any element
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#29 Posted: 10:49:23 05/01/2013
The real problem with Lightcores is more the breakdown of the distribution boxes.
Wave 1 had: -Eruptor -Prism Bream -Drobot Wave 2 had: -Jet Vac -Eruptor -Prism Bream -Drobot Wave 3 had: -Shroomboom -Jet Vac -Eruptor -Prism Bream -Drobot No collector/small business would continue to buy the boxes if all they are getting are repeat figures constantly.
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#30 Posted: 03:17:55 03/02/2013
I don't like how 's lightcore is only his back. They could of made the back of his tail light up. But I like the other lightcores.
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#31 Posted: 04:42:08 03/02/2013
Quote: Hot Dog 542
His eyes should have lit up as well. |
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#32 Posted: 06:03:36 03/02/2013
I feel like LightCore should have been the Series 2 figures. A great new pose, cool lighting effects, great new Wow Pows and path switching rolled up into one attractive $12 package.
Plus there's less irrelevant figures clogging the shelves. Another cool idea would've been to implement a gallery that used codes from the Mega Bloks sets to unlock special features like minigames, concept art...even a Mega Bloks skin for that character in-game! Hopefully Skylanders 3 is more cost-effective. $300+ on figures is hard to stomach on a yearly basis. |
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#33 Posted: 18:38:36 03/02/2013
When giants came out I only had like 19 series 1 characters and thats it. I knew that they had the reposes. So I just decided that I would just buy the remaining 13 characters and if I happened to find it in SSA or Giants version it didnt matter. I wasnt going to buy original 32 and all the reposes. I finally got Zap but he is the reposed one with hot dog. As long as there are 48 total skylanders there Im not complaining. I didnt buy the Cannon battle pack though because i already had chop chop. But since the lightcore was released, i just bought it. And I also got the LC version of Jet Vac because I wasnt going to buy the starter pack of giants so I bought the portal owners pack and bought LC Jet Vac seperate because I already had cynder. All I care about is if I have all of them together whether they be series 1, 2 or lightcores. I guess 'm just not that hardcore of a collector. But yeah, if I didnt already have Eruptor or Hex, I would buy the LC versions. Everyone has a choice though. You dont HAVE to buy every S1,S2, or LC character. Its just options for those who never bought any of the first figures. Then they can start out with S2. I dont feel the need to buy all of them, but some may...
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#34 Posted: 01:48:26 04/02/2013
they should have made drobots eyes light up(couldve added lasers on the figure too)
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#35 Posted: 02:32:40 04/02/2013
I HATE WHAT LIGHTS UP ON LIGHTCORE DROBOT
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#36 Posted: 05:15:00 04/02/2013
Quote: Diggeh
I felt that the lightcore should have been of the s2 or of the new ones only. The light up gimic is neat but it should be part of something not its own seprate thing. Hopefully they learn this time around. From what i see its the lightcores that are the leftovers everywhere along with that battle cannon pack. The only lightcore i see selling is the shroom one, but thats prop cause kids wanted it, its sold alone at $12 and kids already had chopchop and didn't care for the cannon. |
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#37 Posted: 05:32:20 04/02/2013
Please, dont bump old topics. >.>
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#38 Posted: 17:30:52 10/02/2013
Quote: joerox123
Hmmm... That would be great! Especially on Warnado, because his tornado could light up!
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#39 Posted: 22:03:07 10/02/2013
The only lightcores that actually offer a nice benefit over their regular Giants counterpart are the Newlanders for Giants. LC Jet Vac and LC Shroomboom have everything the regular releases have and they also have the light bomb as a bonus.
I'm sure that since they decided to mix newlanders with SSA characters that they wanted to have their features consistent over all of them. I can see why they didn't do Wow Pows since those are kind of exclusive to a repose, but they should have allowed for Path Switching. I'll be interested in how they handle LCs in SSF.
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#40 Posted: 22:51:59 10/02/2013
I thought bumping was ok as long as you add to the topic, like an opinion, not just a response.
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#41 Posted: 23:17:15 10/02/2013
Quote: Hexin_Wishes
^ This. Plus the Eurptor LC was a huge disappointment. The best LC IMO is Prism Break. |
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#42 Posted: 00:28:58 11/02/2013
They sh/could have made eruptor's fists light up. and make jet vac's little vacuum pack light up, i really like what they did to shroomboom's mushroom though.
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#43 Posted: 00:36:42 11/02/2013
^ Jet Vac's vac-pack does light up..
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#44 Posted: 02:16:20 11/02/2013
Tech LC should have been Drill Seargant
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#45 Posted: 02:35:31 11/02/2013
Quote: Hexin_Wishes
Well, yes there is. They crippled the capabilities of lightcore to force a purchase of repose characters if you wanted the wow pow. But I agree lightcore concept is broke. It's a novelty. They should've done a "slipstream" concept with S3 but it looks like we're going to get more of the same--unless they decide that the ONLY appearance of certain characters will only be lightcore. If that's the case, then they shouldn't cripple them like they did in Giants. Quote: KiDFass65
I agree. Prism Break the best. Jet vac and Shroom Boom and Eruptor are "ok". Drobot was horrible. I heard in a video that they had technical issues which prevented the eyes from being lit.
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#46 Posted: 01:33:13 13/02/2013
Where didn't they go wrong with lightcores?!
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#47 Posted: 08:09:19 13/02/2013
Quote: GhostRoaster
nope, all down to costs, eyes can light up |
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#48 Posted: 11:00:45 13/02/2013
...How much do you want for that Drobot?
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#49 Posted: 12:21:38 13/02/2013
you should so make a video on how to make them light up more
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#50 Posted: 14:13:33 13/02/2013
Quote: t7gga
drobot done right! this shud is how shud drobot lights up..... Epic custom btw! if you have anymore type of this customs can you please post. thanks again for sharing.....
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