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Is this even a "Spyro" game? [CLOSED]
Gotmilk Red Sparx Gems: 31
#1 Posted: 22:20:10 18/05/2012 | Topic Creator
Is it? From everything I've heard and seen...it looks like a generic hack&slash with painfully generic characters, but OH HEY Spyro is one of the characters!

How exactly is this a Spyro game?
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#2 Posted: 22:22:28 18/05/2012
dont start this again. smilie
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#3 Posted: 22:22:30 18/05/2012
The question has been asked so many times before.

It's a game part of the Spyro franchise, it just has Spyro in it with a few elements and characters from previous Spyro games.
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#4 Posted: 22:23:26 18/05/2012
While this game looks gimmicky and Spyro WAS just slapped onto it, it is a Spyro game. It's not like they were doing anything better with Spyro, and now Activision has a blockbuster on their hands.
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#5 Posted: 22:23:48 18/05/2012
^yes. like cynder, and sparx.
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#6 Posted: 22:26:11 18/05/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: JuLeDoS
While this game looks gimmicky and Spyro WAS just slapped onto it, it is a Spyro game. It's not like they were doing anything better with Spyro, and now Activision has a blockbuster on their hands.


That's what I was wondering. From what I had seen, Spyro had little to no involvement with the plot, and really did seem like they just slapped him in to get all the Spyro fans' attention.

When "Spyro" was in the title, I was kinda expecting a Spyro game, not a generic hack&slash that lets you play as Spyro (and you don't even have to).
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#7 Posted: 22:27:09 18/05/2012
Quote: Gotmilk
Quote: JuLeDoS
While this game looks gimmicky and Spyro WAS just slapped onto it, it is a Spyro game. It's not like they were doing anything better with Spyro, and now Activision has a blockbuster on their hands.


That's what I was wondering. From what I had seen, Spyro had little to no involvement with the plot, and really did seem like they just slapped him in to get all the Spyro fans' attention.

When "Spyro" was in the title, I was kinda expecting a Spyro game, not a generic hack&slash that lets you play as Spyro (and you don't even have to).



in dotd do you have to play spyro? no. theres cynder, if you didnt know.
Gotmilk Red Sparx Gems: 31
#8 Posted: 22:29:24 18/05/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: trentd78


in dotd do you have to play spyro? no. theres cynder, if you didnt know.


But that game is actually ABOUT Spyro and related characters. He's actually a part of the plot. It's not just some random game that just happens to let you play as Spyro.

It's kind of ridiculous to have the game titled "SPYRO'S Adventure" and then the game isn't about him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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#9 Posted: 22:30:50 18/05/2012
It doesn't matter what the genre is, it is a Spyro game because Spyro is in the title, although I'm not sure if he will continue to be relevant to the Skylanders series, seeing as he hardly looks to be in Giants. But I don't think Skylanders will be able to develop far enough as a series that we'll have to worry about it branching out from the Spyro moniker.
EDIT: And character involvement doesn't matter too much either. I mean, The Legend of Zelda Link's Awakening doesn't even have Zelda in it.
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#10 Posted: 22:33:44 18/05/2012
This is what annoys me if you play the game you find instead of just asking is this even a spyro game anyway it made skylanders fans get spyro games so no one should be complaining
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Gotmilk Red Sparx Gems: 31
#11 Posted: 22:34:45 18/05/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: JuLeDoS
It doesn't matter what the genre is, it is a Spyro game because Spyro is in the title


but HOW exactly is it really a Spyro game if it's not about Spyro or any related characters? The plot seems to be centered around these "Skylanders" things, and Spyro was just slapped in as one of the characters. If you removed "Spyro" from the title, the game would be no different. S' what I'm trying to say. Why name it "Spyro's Adventure" if it's not about Spyro?

It's as if "Mario Party" was named "Yoshi Party" despite it not being focused on Yoshi at all.


Quote: JuLeDoS
EDIT: And character involvement doesn't matter too much either. I mean, The Legend of Zelda Link's Awakening doesn't even have Zelda in it.


No, but it's a part of the Legend of Zelda franchise which centers around Link, not Zelda.
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#12 Posted: 22:40:28 18/05/2012
Well, to be fair, Spyro is only in the subtitle. I agree that he was just kind of slapped on as well as a few characters from the Spyro universe, but this shouldn't take away from the enjoyment of the game. Skylanders is a fun and surprisingly deep game along with a cool concept, regardless of whether or not Spyro is central to the story. I see why Spyro fans would get angry, but come on. It isn't like the Legend of Spyro games were that great anyway...
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#13 Posted: 22:52:21 18/05/2012
Spyro's name is in the title for whatever reason but this is def not a Spyro game... It's a completely different story in a completely different world. Spyro was tacted on my Activi$ion to revive the franchise/ make money off of some fanboys...
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#14 Posted: 00:08:12 19/05/2012
It's about as much a Spyro game as Super Mario Kart is a Mario game. Very clearly and very directly related, but arguably not part of the main line. Then again, it is also the only reason Spyro is in a new game at all, so fans will have to take what they can get.
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#15 Posted: 01:19:01 19/05/2012
Spyro (and Cynder and Sparx) are really just guest stars in the Skylanders universe.
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#16 Posted: 01:24:32 19/05/2012
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#17 Posted: 07:48:01 19/05/2012
let me summarize
it "feels" like a spyro game
it has almost nothing to do with spyro. him and cynder are basically minor guest stars.
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#18 Posted: 09:52:07 19/05/2012
It's a Spyro game as much as Legend of Spyro was a Spyro game.

And no amount of denial or straw grasping will change that.
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#19 Posted: 10:59:13 19/05/2012
Yeah I mean legend of spyro was more about cynder about being evil then good and becoming in love with spyro
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#20 Posted: 19:12:33 19/05/2012
This may be upsetting to a small vocal minority, but... Skylanders is not only a Spyro game...
It's BETTER than all those older Spyro games...combined! Skylanders is the BEST and most successful Spyro game ever!!! smilie
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#21 Posted: 20:59:43 19/05/2012
Quote: sykotek
This may be upsetting to a small vocal minority, but... Skylanders is not only a Spyro game...
It's BETTER than all those older Spyro games...combined! Skylanders is the BEST and most successful Spyro game ever!!! smilie


1)It has been more profitable just because of the fact that you feel obligated to buy so many toys and many people do buy them. It would not be the best selling spyro game ever if it was just a game like the others. It's really not a valid comparison.
2) It's your opinion that it is the best ever. There is a difference between opinion and fact.
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#22 Posted: 21:39:18 19/05/2012
^LMAO smilie
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#23 Posted: 21:41:42 19/05/2012
^I don't see what's funny about it.
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#24 Posted: 23:25:32 19/05/2012
@Spyro and sonic
He probably thinks it's funny cause he already said not everyone would agree. Though you are right, Skylanders is making profit through the toys. But IT IS a good game.
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#25 Posted: 23:33:20 19/05/2012
I guess I kinda is a spyro game but spyro is not the main character, even in most packages I have seen stealth elf is featured at the front of the game. Skylanders Spyros Adventure, more like Skylanders Stealt elf's adventure (try sayin that three times).
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Gotmilk Red Sparx Gems: 31
#26 Posted: 01:30:14 20/05/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: D-Rex
It's a Spyro game as much as Legend of Spyro was a Spyro game.

And no amount of denial or straw grasping will change that.


Denial? Grasping at straws? wat. I'm looking at things logically.

Legend of Spyro series = About Spyro. Focused on Spyro. Spyro is the main part of the entire storyline and the main character.

Skylanders: Spyro is...a guest star with no real relation to the plot besides being a playable character. (that you don't even have to play as)

Tell me again how they're both equally as much a "spyro game"...?
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#27 Posted: 02:17:06 20/05/2012
If we look at activisions selling tactics, would people who love the spyro series brought skylanders if it didn't have spyro's name in it, I don't think so, so activision needed a bait to be able to sell this game. Using the Spyro name was the best marketing tool they could use. The game in my opinion is not a spyro game his name was used as a marketing tool, erego the drop of spyro's name in skylanders giants.
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#28 Posted: 02:43:50 20/05/2012
Quote: Gotmilk
Quote: D-Rex
It's a Spyro game as much as Legend of Spyro was a Spyro game.

And no amount of denial or straw grasping will change that.


Denial? Grasping at straws? wat. I'm looking at things logically.

Legend of Spyro series = About Spyro. Focused on Spyro. Spyro is the main part of the entire storyline and the main character.

Skylanders: Spyro is...a guest star with no real relation to the plot besides being a playable character. (that you don't even have to play as)

Tell me again how they're both equally as much a "spyro game"...?


Agreed. Skylanders isn't really a Spyro game, and it's kinda overrated. At least TLOS had some elements of the original games, Skylanders has hardly any.
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#29 Posted: 02:56:50 20/05/2012
This question has been asked multiple times, and I've already said my half.

Yes. There are refrances. ie: characters refrance old characters, items, backstories, ect refrance the other Spyro games.
Obvious: Spyro is in it, his name is said, his name is in the title, and there are sheep.

TORTCH THE SHEEEEEEP
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#30 Posted: 03:28:16 20/05/2012
Quote: Gotmilk

Skylanders: Spyro is...a guest star with no real relation to the plot besides being a playable character. (that you don't even have to play as)


You haven't looked into the supplementary materials, have you? He's the star of The Beginning trailer and he's the mascot of the franchise. His face is plastered essentially everywhere. The reason for the lack of actual in-game plot importance is obviously due to the options of other playable characters, to give players a freedom of choice. He is still intended as the star of the game, regardless. Just like how you don't have to play as Mario in Super Mario Bros 2.

Quote: arceustheprime

Agreed. Skylanders isn't really a Spyro game, and it's kinda overrated. At least TLOS had some elements of the original games, Skylanders has hardly any.


Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure has more elements of the original franchise than all the TLOS trilogy games combined. There's Moneybags, there's the sheep, and even minor cameos from the old games. And the 3DS version is a flat out homage to the platforming aspects of the original series. TLOS is an even worse offender of the "just using the Spyro" name since it's basically doing just that. It's a lame attempt at a edgier and grittier reboot to appeal to the "mature games for hardcore gamers such as myself" crowd. At least Skylanders actually has throwbacks and references to the older series, and it even gives a few nods to TLOS with Cynder and Malefor. Even more so, like the classic Spyro games, it is a title intended for all audiences as opposed to TLOS pandering to the teen DeviantArtist crowd. And I find it hilarious you'd say Skylanders is overrated when I found TLOS to be horrendously overrated.
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#31 Posted: 04:42:29 20/05/2012
Uh, Skylanders is more overrated than TLOS.... Firstly, Skylanders are flying off the shelf faster than the speed of light and you basically have to fight insane prices too. If TLOS was more overrated than Skylanders then why are the games so easy to find?. Also, I would like to point out that the figures can be more expensive than a single TLOS game itself.
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#32 Posted: 05:04:57 20/05/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: D-Rex
You haven't looked into the supplementary materials, have you? He's the star of The Beginning trailer and he's the mascot of the franchise. His face is plastered essentially everywhere. The reason for the lack of actual in-game plot importance is obviously due to the options of other playable characters, to give players a freedom of choice. He is still intended as the star of the game, regardless. Just like how you don't have to play as Mario in Super Mario Bros 2.


Except in SMB2, all of the characters were related to the same universe. Spyro is an outsider, in the Skylanders universe. All of the other characters and the universe itself have absolutely 0 relation to Spyro at all.

The fact that Spyro is plastered all over the trailers and boxes and "mascot" and such only makes it even worse that the game is not focused on him at all.


Quote: D-Rex
Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure has more elements of the original franchise than all the TLOS trilogy games combined. There's Moneybags, there's the sheep, and even minor cameos from the old games. And the 3DS version is a flat out homage to the platforming aspects of the original series. TLOS is an even worse offender of the "just using the Spyro" name since it's basically doing just that. It's a lame attempt at a edgier and grittier reboot to appeal to the "mature games for hardcore gamers such as myself" crowd. At least Skylanders actually has throwbacks and references to the older series, and it even gives a few nods to TLOS with Cynder and Malefor. Even more so, like the classic Spyro games, it is a title intended for all audiences as opposed to TLOS pandering to the teen DeviantArtist crowd. And I find it hilarious you'd say Skylanders is overrated when I found TLOS to be horrendously overrated.


Game elements alone do not make a Spyro game. And just because you don't like a game doesn't mean it's...wait what? You're saying that just because you didn't like the look of the game/plot, that it's less of a Spyro game than Skylanders and just "used" him? Despite all that I've pointed out before?

wat

Oh, and "overrated" is a silly term.
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#33 Posted: 05:05:47 20/05/2012
There's a difference between popular and overrated.
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#34 Posted: 05:17:47 20/05/2012
Quote: Gotmilk

Except in SMB2, all of the characters were related to the same universe. Spyro is an outsider, in the Skylanders universe. All of the other characters and the universe itself have absolutely 0 relation to Spyro at all.


How is an outsider? He's just as much a part of the universe as anyone else. He's not a visitor from another world, he's established as a resident hero of Skylands within the game's plot. He's more than just a tag on to sell, he's written to be as much as part of the Skylanders universe as say Trigger Happy or Stealth Elf. Do you not read the backstory? For goodness' sake, he was the one who redeemed Cynder, in a call back to TLoS, mind you. And his own even makes small hints to other adventures he's had.


Quote: Gotmilk

Game elements alone do not make a Spyro game. And just because you don't like a game doesn't mean it's...wait what? You're saying that just because you didn't like the look of the game/plot, that it's less of a Spyro game than Skylanders and just "used" him? Despite all that I've pointed out before?


Gameplay elements, references to past games, and even Spyro himself, in the starring role of the franchise, do not make a Spyro game. Then tell me, what does? Because clearly you must know more about what makes a Spyro game than Toys For Bob or even Insomniac. And no, I'm not saying that just because I didn't like the look of the game/plot, I said that because of what the game wanted to be made it less than a Spyro game than Skylanders is. Yes, Spyro is the star and there's Sparx too. But that's it. As opposed to Skylanders which has Spyro, and Sparx. And a lot else.

And pointed out what, that Spyro was part of the plot in TLOS? Yes, he's part of the plot, or what little of there is, of Skylanders too. Go take a gander at The Beginning trailer again. Who's the one they're mainly focusing on? Yes, that's right.

Slam Bam.


You seem to think that just because Spyro's not the top billed "You have to play as this character and nobody else" Skylander in game, he's just a "cameo", despite all evidence to the contrary that he's clearly meant to be the star, both within and without the game.
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#35 Posted: 05:18:54 20/05/2012
^ Don't double post.
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#36 Posted: 05:20:07 20/05/2012
Quote: arceustheprime
^ Don't double post.


Didn't mean to. I posted in response to your post and GotMilk's came up right before mine did.
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#37 Posted: 05:20:59 20/05/2012
Ah, I see now.
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#38 Posted: 09:38:39 20/05/2012
Well said D-rex, well said.
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#39 Posted: 09:49:37 20/05/2012
Yes, yes it is.
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#40 Posted: 13:03:10 20/05/2012
IMO, no this is not a spyro game. A spyro game should have spyro as the central character whom you must play as for most of the game. Skylanders doesn't have that-spyro is never actually required to progress the story based on what I'm hearing. Spyro is meant to be the central character in a spyro game rather than just one character with a plethora of others.

Also it is plainly obvious that spyro was simply shoved in the game to give the overly greedy activision more money. They never intended to respect spyro. The only reason they bought the character was for their own greedy purposes.

And finally, if skylanders isn't a spyro game then giants definitely is not. His name isn't even in the title! By skylanders 3 they will have tossed spyro aside and forgotten about him.
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#41 Posted: 13:25:19 20/05/2012
I agree with you, spyro and sonic. But it is a company's job to make money. And Activision really likes money... but to be honest I think most of the kids playing the game never really knew who Spyro was before Skylanders. This could be good if Activision makes a 'real' Spyro game, because kids will remember him from Skylanders and Spyro's popularity could come back if a new real Spyro game is ever made.
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#42 Posted: 13:46:11 20/05/2012
Quote: henryszuch
Quote: Gotmilk
But that game is actually ABOUT Spyro and related characters. He's actually a part of the plot. It's not just some random game that just happens to let you play as Spyro.

It's kind of ridiculous to have the game titled "SPYRO'S Adventure" and then the game isn't about him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



It kind of is about him because:


1. If you look at the trailer for the game he is kind of the leader
2. He is the main and first Skylander

and the reson they don't call it skylanders is this:

spyro is the main character in this 1


giants r the main charactor in the next 1 so its called skylander giants


skylanders is just the series or the group of heroes u may call them. like in the avengers its a group of super heroes skylanders its a group of creature heroes


I'm pretty sure they were not originally intending for it to be about spyro. Regardless giants is not a spyro game. Giants is the beginning of activision getting rid of spyro and probably letting him die. And can you guys try to use proper grammer.
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#43 Posted: 13:48:00 20/05/2012
^ Agreed.
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#44 Posted: 15:58:05 20/05/2012
Quote: D-Rex
There's a difference between popular and overrated.


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#45 Posted: 16:22:18 20/05/2012
I think this game is good for Spyro since it's getting him attention that can be later redirected towards your definition of a Spyro game that Activision may choose to make later. If yourefuse to think of this as a Spyro game, at least acknowledge it as a side game. I see it as what Super Mario Bros 2 was to the original. It's strange in comparison, but it adds to the universe in the game. And also, I read in GameInformer that Toys For Bob was working on this game before deciding to put Spyro in it. In the article it States that Toys For Bob wanted to choose Spyro for the game out of all of Activision's franchises. So you should be thankful you're even getting this, because otherwise Spyro would just be forgotten.
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#46 Posted: 19:20:27 20/05/2012
It's a game with Spyro in it so therefor it's a "Spyro" game. There, problem solved!

To be honest, why are people continually asking this? Just shut up and enjoy the game =)!

Video games are meant to be played and enjoyed, not questioned. Video games aren't reality so therefor shouldn't be taken seriously.
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#47 Posted: 19:22:50 20/05/2012
Quote: henryszuch
i didn't say giants were a spyro game. i no giants is getting rid of spyro but not skylanders sa


Giants is getting rid of Spyro!? Heavens no! Then that purple dragon that looks like Spyro must be someone completely different then!

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#48 Posted: 19:27:35 20/05/2012
This has been asked many of a many times and the answer is always 'it is a game from the Spyro francise'(don't know how to spell that word sorry)
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