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http://www.skylanders.com/sky/.../characters/hex

It really makes sense at how the end of DOTD saw Malefor being trapped at the center of the world in that crystal. He obviously died and became a spirit like ignitus said dragons become.

Malefor, is the UNDEAD DRAGON KING, Ice. Not another purple dragon. Different universe remember?

I quite agree with Ice Dragoness. In some points it would make sense. Another point is that I don't think they just used Malefor's name cuz they needed one. Malefore was also mentioned in Cynder's backstory. So I think they're talking about the same Malefor then.

Nah, this has already been proved to be a reboot. This isn't the same Malefor, not in the slightest.

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Nah, this has already been proved to be a reboot. This isn't the same Malefor, not in the slightest.

And those fans wonder why they confused themselves between a purple dragon from a different universe and an undead dragon with the same name in a reboot. Again, this Malefor isn't the same Malefor from the LoS, don't confuse yourself with fan speculation. It's already been confirmed. Just because Malefor is in the game of Skylanders, it doesn't automatically mean he's the exact same character after a reboot.

But aren't some elements of LoS present in Skylanders? If I remember, the director is also the one for LoS so it is a possibility. Until they prove it in an Adventure Pack or something, we're left to speculation. Although, it is very, very possible that some elements of LoS will be integrated in Skylanders. After all, Cynder's present.

But really, that's just me rambling. Reboots don't necessarily mean characters from previous series can't return. There's Hunter and his home world of Avalar in LoS.

Yes, there are some elements in Skylanders from the LoS. But again, it's a different universe. They just brought in some story elements for the characters, but it's not set in the LoS just because Cynder or Malefor is in the game. They're now completely different chaarcters, aside from Cynder's almost identical backstory.

*Ahem* here's my version of the story:

Malefor and Kaos used to be good friends. They both had many things alike, including ammense power. But, Malefor was the smarter one. BUT, they both had the same plan... to destroy Skylands and create and brand new world to rule and call as their own... and rule beside each other as dear friends and colleges. Malefor was King/Lord of the Undead, and Kaos was one of his most trusted lords.

Malefor and Kaos made a bet. Whoever destoryed Skylands first, would get to be the big cheese. Malefor went first. He unleashed his wrath onto the lands, but Spyro and the rest of the Skylanders (mainly Spyro) stopped Malefor and he was banished to the Underworld forever, and remained king. Years later, Hex came in and killed him off... she then became a master of the undead.

Then after a few more years, Kaos kept true to his word (And from the grief of loosing a dear friend.) and came to the Skylands to try and take over. He was neive and ignored the core of light. Back then, there were many Portal Masters... but they were killed by Kaos's army, leaving only Eon behind. He was the last Portal Master. He was the one who had trained since the start of his life and gathered all the Skylanders he could find. He was the one to stop Kaos. Kaos was then banished to the Outlands (a dark and depressing world.. like the alter world of Skylands.).

Then today, Kaos returned and destroyed the Core of Light (Out of pure hatred for his first loss.), sending it to all parts of the Universe, and sending his minions to go protect those pieces... and making his minions run rampid among the worlds of Skylands. Without the core, there is no Skylanders. Without the core... there are no Portal Masters. There is no power for Skylands.

Then, that's were we come in. The newest generation of Portal Masters. Our numbers keep growing, and are now so great, that Kaos will not stand a chance. Soon there will be many Portal Masters like Eon. Soon Kaos will meet his end for sure.

End

Anyone like it?

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Nah, this has already been proved to be a reboot. This isn't the same Malefor, not in the slightest.

And those fans wonder why they confused themselves between a purple dragon from a different universe and an undead dragon with the same name in a reboot. Again, this Malefor isn't the same Malefor from the LoS, don't confuse yourself with fan speculation. It's already been confirmed. Just because Malefor is in the game of Skylanders, it doesn't automatically mean he's the exact same character after a reboot.

The point is, to me, that they are trying to make some sort of connection with the LoS trio and Skylanders. Sure it may be a spin-off, the direct name usage using three of the characters suggests a hidden backstory. Maybe there's a missing chapter of Spyro and Cynder having to defeat an undead Malefor. Maybe undead dragons can't be purple cuz they're, undead. And then Hex's Malefor story, practically separate from the others suggests yet another chapter in which Malefor was an antagonist.

We've said and proved quotes that suggest Activision is willing to create more Spyro games if his fanbase proves worthy of it, or something like that. If this is true, what's stopping them from making a prequel to Skylanders that tells the story of Spyro, Cynder, and Hex battling Malefor?

Skylanders 2: The Malice of Malefor

i don't understand why people are trying so hard to connect LoS and skylanders, it's completely different. there are only similarities to draw in the older fanbase as well as children

^ This.
They're all reboots, and that's all. There's no timeline between Classic, LoS, and Skylanders.

I get the feeling there will be something revolving around this Malefor Chapter really.

When you go to the undead realm you find nothing of Malefor's forces or Malefor himself, sure let those people who had previously got a giant stamp on your head *Loser* win and after awhile they return in your realm to find some source.

Maybe he just didn't give a crap about what happended outside his realm?

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Malefor, is the UNDEAD DRAGON KING, Ice. Not another purple dragon. Different universe remember?

Then would you please like to explain why Cynder has the same backstory as TLoS?

TLoS and Skylanders ARE connected in many ways.

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Malefor, is the UNDEAD DRAGON KING, Ice. Not another purple dragon. Different universe remember?

Then would you please like to explain why Cynder has the same backstory as TLoS?

TLoS and Skylanders ARE connected in many ways.

It was the producer's or the Toy Story writer's idea to bring Cynder's fsmiliar backstory into the reboot that has nothing to do with the LoS, Ice, but it still confuses some fans, like yourself, so far that they think Skylanders is a 'sequel to the LoS trilogy'. Come on, Ice, think hard. They're not in the same universe, and they're not the same characters. It's a reboot, just because Cynder has the same backstory as her LoS counterpart, it doesn't mean she's the same exact character. They just brought in some elements from the LoS, that's all. They're not in the same universe.

How many times must I type this before this goes through some of your thick skulls?

LoS and Skylanders and Classics and reboots.
Activision only added LoS references like Dark Spyro and Cynder's backstory and Malefor to please LoS fans. Same with Classic fans; you see plenty of references from both games so both fans are pleased.

They aren't connected in any way, and just because Cynder's backstory is the same as LoS doesn't mean Skylanders and LoS are connected.

They'll be acting like some of those confused Spyro fans on youtube, spouting fan nonsense like, 'Hey guys! Cynder in Skylanders is in the same Cynder from the LoS! I have proof because they have the same exact backstory and I didn't bother looking deeper into the development of Skylanders to see if she's the same character or not, and I'm ignoring the fact that Skylanders is a reboot that has nothing to do with the LoS!'

^ This, actually.
It's empty logic and people should look it up a little more before making assumptions like that. Plus, it's been revealed so many times how it's a reboot and I think it's fairly obvious.

But they STILL try to make accurate assumptions.

Let's summarise here:

Cynder is not the same Cynder in LoS
Malefor is not the same Malefor in LoS


It's like saying "Spyro from LoS is purple and is very similar to the original Spyro, they must be the exact same person!"

^ Agreed.

@Aura
I hate it when people make assumptions without looking into the game more. Making an early inference is just fine, but look it up and see if you're right before going around saying you are.

Does that mean that the undead Malefor is now a dead Malefor? How exactly can you kill something that is already dead! He died like twice!!!

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How many times must I type this before this goes through some of your thick skulls?

LoS and Skylanders and Classics and reboots.
Activision only added LoS references like Dark Spyro and Cynder's backstory and Malefor to please LoS fans. Same with Classic fans; you see plenty of references from both games so both fans are pleased.

They aren't connected in any way, and just because Cynder's backstory is the same as LoS doesn't mean Skylanders and LoS are connected.

Only idiots are saying that they are connected. I'm perfectly aware that the story-lines are separate. But that doesn't stop me from wondering about a pre-Skylanders storyline. Some fans, not the stupid youtube comment ones, like to expand on the fandom. Different ways of doing this is role play, fanfiction, and world building. None of these are canonized throughout Spyro games very well, but for the fans that like to associate those things it's definitely worth wondering about to them. Even if Skylanders and LoS are not connected, there is STILL a long lost story that ALL of these Skylanders have. And saying that all of those stories are meaningless and not important pieces the ears of fans of lore.

I was talking about the people who seriously think that LoS and Skylanders and Classics are connected.

That's fine to make role plays and fanfictions about them and make fake storylines and such. But some people need to get it through their heads that those games are clean, plain reboots and aren't connected (the ones that are serious). Having fun at the idea with fanfictions is perfectly fine, and making pre-Skylanders storylines are fine. But you shouldn't think that LoS or Classics are really pre-Skylanders, as they're reboots.

That's true, they are worth wondering about. Though again, fanfictions and wondering are just fine. It's just if you really think Skylanders is connected to LoS other than references.

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Does that mean that the undead Malefor is now a dead Malefor? How exactly can you kill something that is already dead! He died like twice!!!

No, the Undead Dragon King Malefor is not the same Malefor from the LoS.

See, this is what some fans can get confused with if they don't do their research..

I like how Hex stopped Malefor and Spyro was just doing nothing at all but chasing Tail again for the 5th time.

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Does that mean that the undead Malefor is now a dead Malefor? How exactly can you kill something that is already dead! He died like twice!!!

No, the Undead Dragon King Malefor is not the same Malefor from the LoS.

See, this is what some fans can get confused with if they don't do their research..

That's about the 4th or 5th time you've had to say that - _ -

Well some fans here obviously didn't get the message.

I know Skylanders is technically a reboot. But the backstories hint at a story progression that has yet to be revealed, and it's not fan made. Skylanders is a 'reboot' why? Because they use totally different supporting characters? Because the antagonist and enemies are different? Because Spyro looks different? Because it creates too many plot holes in between the games? If the answer to these questions is yes, then what is stopping DotD from being a 'reboot'?

Because the beginning of the game is the end of the previous one?

People are wary of cynder in this reboot? Are they stupid I be more scared of the necromancer who owned Malefor like a bug

i want hex looks like a good character to be

Malefor is still my favorite! Even though he is dead.

it would be good if he turned good at the end and became a skylander

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*Ahem* here's my version of the story:

Malefor and Kaos used to be good friends. They both had many things alike, including ammense power. But, Malefor was the smarter one. BUT, they both had the same plan... to destroy Skylands and create and brand new world to rule and call as their own... and rule beside each other as dear friends and colleges. Malefor was King/Lord of the Undead, and Kaos was one of his most trusted lords.

Malefor and Kaos made a bet. Whoever destoryed Skylands first, would get to be the big cheese. Malefor went first. He unleashed his wrath onto the lands, but Spyro and the rest of the Skylanders (mainly Spyro) stopped Malefor and he was banished to the Underworld forever, and remained king. Years later, Hex came in and killed him off... she then became a master of the undead.

Then after a few more years, Kaos kept true to his word (And from the grief of loosing a dear friend.) and came to the Skylands to try and take over. He was neive and ignored the core of light. Back then, there were many Portal Masters... but they were killed by Kaos's army, leaving only Eon behind. He was the last Portal Master. He was the one who had trained since the start of his life and gathered all the Skylanders he could find. He was the one to stop Kaos. Kaos was then banished to the Outlands (a dark and depressing world.. like the alter world of Skylands.).

Then today, Kaos returned and destroyed the Core of Light (Out of pure hatred for his first loss.), sending it to all parts of the Universe, and sending his minions to go protect those pieces... and making his minions run rampid among the worlds of Skylands. Without the core, there is no Skylanders. Without the core... there are no Portal Masters. There is no power for Skylands.

Then, that's were we come in. The newest generation of Portal Masters. Our numbers keep growing, and are now so great, that Kaos will not stand a chance. Soon there will be many Portal Masters like Eon. Soon Kaos will meet his end for sure.

End

Anyone like it?

It makes so much sense.
YOU SHOULD MAKE A FANFIC OFF OF THAT.

THANKS BRO

I TOLD YOU GUYS A HAD A HUGE IMAGINATION. But you neeeveer listen to me, now do you? >:I

I noticed their backstories hint at more to their story and hint at a sequel. But it is obviously still a reboot. My 7 year old brother noticed that.
Those are a few reasons. If you know what a 'reboot' is, then you'd know it means "to start fresh with new ideas". The new storyline, the fact that the game isn't revolving around Spyro, the fact there's different characters. They'll all different, causing a 'reboot'. Make sense?

DotD being a reboot? It's fairly obvious DotD isn't a reboot.

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Because the beginning of the game is the end of the previous one?

There's this to prove that.
There's also the same characters, the same storyline, the (predictable) ending that the other two were hinting at. It's obviously connected to ANB and TEN. Something isn't a reboot just because the characters look different.

While it's a reboot and set in a different 'universe', persay, doesn't mean there can't be any story progression. Spyro's backstory hints that his previous adventures (or, should I say video games) still count for something.

If you reboot one of your saved game of a video game, will you progress in the story? Don't think so, you restart it.

Yet again, those are just references from the older games.
Skylanders is a reboot. That doesn't count for anything, because it is just a reference. The games aren't connected.

It was for TheWereCat

Ah! Okay. I'll edit that.

If this bothers people so much, why doesn't someone email Activision and ask?

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What is stopping DotD from being a 'reboot'?

I lol'd. Do you know what a 'reboot' is?
DotD isn't a reboot. The characters are the same, the storyline is the same, the ending of it ties up ANB and TEN, the games are obviously connected.

A reboot is when you start fresh with new ideas like a new storyline and universe and characters. It does not just matter on design.

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I noticed their backstories hint at more to their story and hint at a sequel. But it is obviously still a reboot. My 7 year old brother noticed that.
Those are a few reasons. If you know what a 'reboot' is, then you'd know it means "to start fresh with new ideas". The new storyline, the fact that the game isn't revolving around Spyro, the fact there's different characters. They'll all different, causing a 'reboot'. Make sense?

DotD being a reboot? It's fairly obvious DotD isn't a reboot.

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Because the beginning of the game is the end of the previous one?

There's this to prove that.
There's also the same characters, the same storyline, the (predictable) ending that the other two were hinting at. It's obviously connected to ANB and TEN. Something isn't a reboot just because the characters look different.

My point though, is that the real reason we call Skylanders a reboot is because it takes 'too big of a jump' to go from DotD to Skylanders, if that's the story arc one chooses to pick (there may be other possibilities with other Spyro games). These too big of jumps are characters and settings, and 'new' ideas. But all it takes is a well-made prequel of Skylanders to bridge the gap between the two and all of a sudden, Skylanders is considered in the same story-arc as the one being bridged with. It's not entirely impossible.

The problem I have with the word 'reboot' is that the assumption is that it's a reboot of Spyro. When really, it's a first time go with a brand new series and Spyro is in it. This game is a spin-off. Just because Spyro and Cynder are in it doesn't mean it labels the game a reboot. It would only label the characters as reboots if in fact their stories are refreshed. But they're not. Their backstories leave right where DotD left off. Don't forget that this isn't a Spyro game. It's a game with Spyro's name written on it.


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What is stopping DotD from being a 'reboot'?

I lol'd. Do you know what a 'reboot' is?
DotD isn't a reboot. The characters are the same, the storyline is the same, the ending of it ties up ANB and TEN, the games are obviously connected.

A reboot is when you start fresh with new ideas like a new storyline and universe and characters. It does not just matter on design.

I wasn't suggesting that DotD is a reboot. I was saying that people way back in 2008 complained that DotD was 'too different' from the other LoS games, and I suggested that those differences are the same reason why Skylanders is considered a reboot.

And the fact that it's taking place in our world/"realm".

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And the fact that it's taking place in our world/"realm".

I don't know what you mean.

That depends if they want to make a prequel to Skylanders and make it connected to LoS. Which I doubt they'll do. Skylanders is still just a reboot of Spyro unless they decide to make a prequel of it and connect it to LoS, like you said. But until then, it's in a whole different universe and it's still a reboot, as it's too different from Classic and LoS.

The game is a spin-off of Spyro. That's been confirmed already.
Mhm, and just because Spyro and Cynder aren't in it doesn't mean it's connected to LoS.
Their backstories are the same because it's just a reference for LoS Spyro fans. Besides, do you know how much of a storm Cynder fans will raise if her backstory is changed?

Are you sure? Most Cynder fans don't give a rats ass about what her backstory is...well the sane ones

^ Exactly. I understand most Cynder fans won't care much, although the insane (and some of the sane ones) would probably really get mad.
I even saw someone say on deviantART on some Cynder in Skylanders picture "if they change Cynder's backstory, I'm gonna send Activision some death threats! How could they disrespect Cynder like this! >:(" or something like that. :/