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a Shism is a separation of a group through a fight. In this case the Spyro fanbase was split by fight over
1.Classic Original vs. Classic Evolved
2.Classic vs LOS
3.Pre DotD Cynder vs DotD Cynder
4.Non Skylanders vs Skylanders

and possibly 5.Cynder (in SSA) vs No Cynder (in SSA)

^Is that right Prysom?

Anyway, I used the contanct info Bionicle2809 posted in the Spyro general section to contact one of the guys in the design department to tell him about our thoughts on putting Sparx in the game (or its potential sequel) and to let him know about the problems surrounding Cynder. I told him of her rabid fans, why her DotD design attracted them and why her Skylanders design would do the same, and what it would do to the fanbase and made my point that it would be best for the young people that SSA will attract if something were done to deter them in the first place.

Still no reply, but I'll let you know if/when I get one.

EDIT: I did not ask that Cynder be removed, only that she be altered.

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a Shism is a separation of a group through a fight. In this case the Spyro fanbase was split by fight over
1.Classic Original vs. Classic Evolved
2.Classic vs LOS
3.Pre DotD Cynder vs DotD Cynder
4.Non Skylanders vs Skylanders

and possibly 5.Cynder (in SSA) vs No Cynder (in SSA)

^Is that right Prysom?

Anyway, I used the contanct info Bionicle2809 posted in the Spyro general section to contact one of the guys in the design department to tell him about our thoughts on putting Sparx in the game (or its potential sequel) and to let him know about the problems surrounding Cynder. I told him of her rabid fans, why her DotD design attracted them and why her Skylanders design would do the same, and what it would do to the fanbase and made my point that it would be best for the young people that SSA will attract if something were done to deter them in the first place.

Still no reply, but I'll let you know if/when I get one.

EDIT: I did not ask that Cynder be removed, only that she be altered.

I don't think you'll get a reply to be honest, anyway, I wouldn't be suprised if someone had already sent them something like that already perhaps? I don't think there is much point in doing that since they can't be bothered to listen to the fanbase anymore. In one way I can't blame them, but in another the series shouldn't have CARELESSLY been messed around with from the beginning.

The separation of a group to from an entirely different group. . . is basically what schism means. It's like how we have the classics vs LOS vs Skylanders. Those three are the most popular schisms on this forum.

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The separation of a group to from an entirely different group. . . is basically what schism means. It's like how we have the classics vs LOS vs Skylanders. Those three are the most popular schisms on this forum.

Yeah, thanks.

With that, I wished that the series would have just ended with the third one, don't you think the fanbase would be less complicated? I'd rather it be a lot smaller and less complicated compared to what it is at now. You can't really have a conversation about a game without someone thinking that you're arguing with them, when you're really just happily discussing about it.

people think that the game is better now that cynder is in it? what makes her so special?

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people think that the game is better now that cynder is in it? what makes her so special?

I don't see how a character can make a game so fantastic. When the game hasn't even been played yet, and no one knows if Cynder will be any different. I can understand if you're a fan of Cynder and you're a little excited about it, but saying that it will somehow make the game awesome compared to what it was before is just niave.

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The separation of a group to from an entirely different group. . . is basically what schism means. It's like how we have the classics vs LOS vs Skylanders. Those three are the most popular schisms on this forum.

Why can't we just like what we like and get on with it? Why start wars and segregate ourselves into groups about it? I personally just LIKE SPYRO, and that's about all I need to think about it.

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Oh, it's very hypocritical. Same goes for the people who were fine with Skylanders but are now whining that they've gone too far because they put her in it, claiming that it either ruined the game (just don't buy Cynder, duh) or that ruining Cynder is just a step too far (Cyndoooork!). It's pretty lame either way.

Hypocrism is everywhere X3

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The separation of a group to from an entirely different group. . . is basically what schism means. It's like how we have the classics vs LOS vs Skylanders. Those three are the most popular schisms on this forum.

Why can't we just like what we like and get on with it? Why start wars and segregate ourselves into groups about it? I personally just LIKE SPYRO, and that's about all I need to think about it.

There are some people that just can't like everything from something, here's an example, I'm a big fan of the Beatles, and as much as I really like them, there are songs that I really dislike, and it's the same type of thing as with Spyro. You can't just force everyone to like something.

And like you can't force everyone to hate on something.

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And like you can't force everyone to hate on something.

Exactly.

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The separation of a group to from an entirely different group. . . is basically what schism means. It's like how we have the classics vs LOS vs Skylanders. Those three are the most popular schisms on this forum.

Why can't we just like what we like and get on with it? Why start wars and segregate ourselves into groups about it? I personally just LIKE SPYRO, and that's about all I need to think about it.

There are some people that just can't like everything from something, here's an example, I'm a big fan of the Beatles, and as much as I really like them, there are songs that I really dislike, and it's the same type of thing as with Spyro. You can't just force everyone to like something.

I think you misread me, . I mean, of course it's okay to like or dislike anything, but why can't people just be okay with their own likes/dislikes and those of others? Why do we have to fight about it? Such as, one person will say, "I like Classic Spyro", and another will say, "I like Legend Spyro better", and they'll both just be okay with it either way. It's not like being a fan or not of a video game is a life-or-death matter.

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people think that the game is better now that cynder is in it? what makes her so special?

I don't see how a character can make a game so fantastic. When the game hasn't even been played yet, and no one knows if Cynder will be any different. I can understand if you're a fan of Cynder and you're a little excited about it, but saying that it will somehow make the game awesome compared to what it was before is just niave.

the heck? im not a fan of cynder, we-ehere did you even-you completly missed my point. i aksed why cynder makes the game better since everyone else says so. im NOT excited at all infact. you have completly misunderstood my post. i never said cynder makes the game better. i am ASKING why people says so.

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people think that the game is better now that cynder is in it? what makes her so special?

I don't see how a character can make a game so fantastic. When the game hasn't even been played yet, and no one knows if Cynder will be any different. I can understand if you're a fan of Cynder and you're a little excited about it, but saying that it will somehow make the game awesome compared to what it was before is just niave.

the heck? im not a fan of cynder, we-ehere did you even-you completly missed my point. i aksed why cynder makes the game better since everyone else says so. im NOT excited at all infact. you have completly misunderstood my post. i never said cynder makes the game better. i am ASKING why people says so.

Because it's obvious, Lyra. Fans who really liked Cynder from the LoS and hated Skylanders like their lives depended on it, now like Skylanders because Cynder is in it, even deeming it '100% better' since she's in it. It's really hypocritical.

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people think that the game is better now that cynder is in it? what makes her so special?

I don't see how a character can make a game so fantastic. When the game hasn't even been played yet, and no one knows if Cynder will be any different. I can understand if you're a fan of Cynder and you're a little excited about it, but saying that it will somehow make the game awesome compared to what it was before is just niave.

the heck? im not a fan of cynder, we-ehere did you even-you completly missed my point. i aksed why cynder makes the game better since everyone else says so. im NOT excited at all infact. you have completly misunderstood my post. i never said cynder makes the game better. i am ASKING why people says so.

I wasn't talking about you in person, I was talking about people in general. I'm sorry if you got the wrong end of the stick.

i see. thats pretty lame.

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Why can't we just like what we like and get on with it? Why start wars and segregate ourselves into groups about it? I personally just LIKE SPYRO, and that's about all I need to think about it.

There are some people that just can't like everything from something, here's an example, I'm a big fan of the Beatles, and as much as I really like them, there are songs that I really dislike, and it's the same type of thing as with Spyro. You can't just force everyone to like something.

I think you misread me, . I mean, of course it's okay to like or dislike anything, but why can't people just be okay with their own likes/dislikes and those of others? Why do we have to fight about it? Such as, one person will say, "I like Classic Spyro", and another will say, "I like Legend Spyro better", and they'll both just be okay with it either way. It's not like being a fan or not of a video game is a life-or-death matter.

I don't even know the answer to that one, I think it comes from people over-reacting sometimes, that could be the half of it. (Sorry for double-posting)

What the **** is going on here?

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What the **** is going on here?

Use your eyes and read what's been happening, lol.

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i see. thats pretty lame.

Yea, at first they're were claiming that the game 'sucks' and they're suddenly loving it when Cynder was revealed..

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i see. thats pretty lame.

Yea, at first they're were claiming that the game 'sucks' and they're suddenly loving it when Cynder was revealed..

Don't you think that's kind of comical? I do.

It's hypocritical.

Well this Spyro wasn't my favorite look, but I've gotten use to him. Still though, he isn't my favorite look. But he's still better than DotD look but not as good as the ANB look. I'd have to say that YotD was my favorite look.

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Well this Spyro wasn't my favorite look, but I've gotten use to him. Still though, he isn't my favorite look. But he's still better than DotD look but not as good as the ANB look. I'd have to say that YotD was my favorite look.

I still don't like Skyro's look, I don't mind his concept art, but I don't really want to complain about it too much, my favourite would be from Spyro 5. I suppose as second best I would choose Spyro 2, then Spyro 3, and finally Spyro 1 out of the original series.

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I don't see how a character can make a game so fantastic. When the game hasn't even been played yet, and no one knows if Cynder will be any different. I can understand if you're a fan of Cynder and you're a little excited about it, but saying that it will somehow make the game awesome compared to what it was before is just niave.

the heck? im not a fan of cynder, we-ehere did you even-you completly missed my point. i aksed why cynder makes the game better since everyone else says so. im NOT excited at all infact. you have completly misunderstood my post. i never said cynder makes the game better. i am ASKING why people says so.

I wasn't talking about you in person, I was talking about people in general. I'm sorry if you got the wrong end of the stick.

oh, ok. i see. sorry.

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the heck? im not a fan of cynder, we-ehere did you even-you completly missed my point. i aksed why cynder makes the game better since everyone else says so. im NOT excited at all infact. you have completly misunderstood my post. i never said cynder makes the game better. i am ASKING why people says so.

I wasn't talking about you in person, I was talking about people in general. I'm sorry if you got the wrong end of the stick.

oh, ok. i see. sorry.

No worries.

Look wise?

ANB/TEN are tied with DotD.
Then YotD which is tied with StD/RR
Then its EtD.
AHT
SSA.

But I'm not playing on looks.

@ SSF & SequoiaDragon: Until people understand that not everyone sees exactly what they see, that people like what others might not like, that people come from different upbringings and backgrounds and accept that as one of the many ways to live a life out of choice; then there is going to be quarreling, wars, segregation and much more to come.

Some people are adamant on what they say or express. Because of that, I believe they are somewhat sensitive to someone responding to their post and will see it as an attack. However it's possible that they themselves were attacked without warning from other sensitive knuckleheads who can't accept or deal with people who share an opposing viewpoint towards there's. There's too many scenarios to list. If they wish to start a war,then they'll reap what they sew.

As for the argument about Cynder making Skylanders better. This is no different from SSBB (Super Smash Bros Brawl) when they announced some recurring, characters like Falco and Shiek (as an example). Some people were pretty bummed out that their favorite character wasn't going to make an appearance, until they finally announced that their favorite character will in fact be playable. Regardless its probably just puffery that their favorite character is playable.

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@ SSF & SequoiaDragon: Until people understand that not everyone sees exactly what they see, that people like what others might not like, that people come from different upbringings and backgrounds and accept that as one of the many ways to live a life out of choice; then there is going to be quarreling, wars, segregation and much more to come.

Some people are adamant on what they say or express. Because of that, I believe they are somewhat sensitive to someone responding to their post and will see it as an attack. However it's possible that they themselves were attacked without warning from other sensitive knuckleheads who can't accept or deal with people who share an opposing viewpoint towards there's. There's too many scenarios to list. If they wish to start a war,then they'll reap what they sew.

As for the argument about Cynder making Skylanders better. This is no different from SSBB (Super Smash Bros Brawl) when they announced some recurring, characters like Falco and Shiek (as an example). Some people were pretty bummed out that their favorite character wasn't going to make an appearance, until they finally announced that their favorite character will in fact be playable. Regardless its probably just puffery that their favorite character is playable.

Fair enough, and to be honest I don't play SSBB, or any type of game like that, I find those types of games to be boring.

I'm not crazy for it either, but I do find it enjoyable every once an a while.

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I'm not crazy for it either, but I do find it enjoyable every once an a while.

Ok, cool.

Holy ****, Activi$ion. Not only did you stick Cynder in your non-Spyro-game, but you had to give her tits? Seriously wtf, this is a kids game, and she's a dragon.....dragons don't have human breasts.

Like, really, who thought this was a good idea?

(inb4 one of the idiots here starts screaming "CYNTARD" at me)

Gotmilk, we don't really know if Cynder has breasts or not. We're relying only on her front view of her toy form. Have we seen her side view to know if she really has boobs or not? No we haven't. A lot of fans are already jumping to conclusions over Cynder thinking she has boobs all because of her scale pattern and not see another side of her toy form to see the full details.

It's funny how some fans can jump to conclusions so easily over only one picture of Cynder, especially her front view pic.

"Scale pattern" would not jut out from her chest like that and have a cleavage line.

Wait until we see her side view to see if she really has cleavage or not. Because simply looking Cynder from the front view and immediately claiming that she has 'boobs', doesn't really solve anything that she has 'cleavage' or not because we can't really tell in that perspective.

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a Shism is a separation of a group through a fight. In this case the Spyro fanbase was split by fight over
1.Classic Original vs. Classic Evolved
2.Classic vs LOS
3.Pre DotD Cynder vs DotD Cynder
4.Non Skylanders vs Skylanders

and possibly 5.Cynder (in SSA) vs No Cynder (in SSA)

^Is that right Prysom?

Anyway, I used the contanct info Bionicle2809 posted in the Spyro general section to contact one of the guys in the design department to tell him about our thoughts on putting Sparx in the game (or its potential sequel) and to let him know about the problems surrounding Cynder. I told him of her rabid fans, why her DotD design attracted them and why her Skylanders design would do the same, and what it would do to the fanbase and made my point that it would be best for the young people that SSA will attract if something were done to deter them in the first place.

Still no reply, but I'll let you know if/when I get one.

EDIT: I did not ask that Cynder be removed, only that she be altered.

Oh it's 6 then. 5 was the "Boob-noobs", those who liked Boobed Cynder.

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Wait until we see her side view to see if she really has cleavage or not. Because simply looking Cynder from the front view and immediately claiming that she has 'boobs', doesn't really solve anything that she has 'cleavage' or not because we can't really tell in that perspective.

Scales or not, it LOOKS like breasts. Even if it was just apoorly designed chest plate type deal, it sticks out too much and is too round, thus it looks like breasts and perves/cyndorks will still treat them like breasts.

Yep. The post above states the truth.

Cynder may be the trigger to the gun but it's the fanbase flame wars that made the bullet.

World of Spyro: Cynderatascm

The Boobs were the gunpowder though.

Let's hope it doesn't become Spyro: Dead or Alive.

I just hope that message get's some kind of realization out of the people working on this game, so that don't do it again if there's a sequel. The toy may stay the same, but no reason they can't change the in game model. Speaking of, I'd like to see what in game Cynder looks like.

That should well reveal a few things. Due to shifting angles, we will learn if it is boobs.

See post number 487. Like said, if it LOOKS like boobs it's TREATED like boobs.

Son,
am disappoint.

But seriously. They added, Cynder? What is this, are they trying to revive the Legend trilogy? Oh hey, they should add Hunter too. Oh, and make Malefor or Red as one of the bosses too.

When I saw that picture of Cynderp, I thought only one thing : boobs. Even if those are not boobs, they still look like ones. Ventral scales don't even go like that. I can already imagine Rule 34 of her as a skylander everywhere...

Not to mention her colour. My God, she's frigging' pink and purple! A total bomb for the fans...
/rant

But in other news, it's quite exciting for the fans. Having a big character to come back to the game is a blast...

^I agree. I wish someone would fix her and give her a flat chest, black scales, and red wings and belly, like she should be. It's not that Cynder's there that bugs me, it's the perve bait on her front.
I want to see her catchphrase/story, just to see how bad they made her. My god, could you imagine if they made the mistake of giving her a catchphrase like 'Let's do it!' ?! I mean really, boob-ish scales and bad color is fail enough, but to give her a saying that is often associated with physicality?!

I don't think it's Cynder, it's Cynder's nightmare about herself brought to life! Would explain the undead element, it's zombie ghost!

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^I agree. I wish someone would fix her and give her a flat chest, black scales, and red wings and belly, like she should be. It's not that Cynder's there that bugs me, it's the perve bait on her front.
I want to see her catchphrase/story, just to see how bad they made her. My god, could you imagine if they made the mistake of giving her a catchphrase like 'Let's do it!' ?! I mean really, boob-ish scales and bad color is fail enough, but to give her a saying that is often associated with physicality?!

'Let's do it'? Come on, SpyroLUVA, that's not even a Skylander-like catchphrase to match her powers.

oh all those rule 34 pictures of cynder are going to spread like a wild desiase......

As well as pics of others. -.-

Herpy will see a peak in traffic I think

To that toy design is reserved the greatest facepalm I am capable of giving...