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Quote: Razz

I expect it to be better than LoS, but, then, even when I liked LoS I expected a brick to be better than it, so that's not really a mark of high praise coming from me. It so far looks like it's going to be interesting at the least and I like what I've seen of the gameplay. Unlike the past several Spyro games we've had, it kind of looks fun to play in and of itself, which is nice.

Yeah, Skylanders isn't going to be GotY with Portal 2 hanging around, but no Spyro game has ever pulled that off so it's no loss. I am pleased to see how much effort Activision is putting into the project, though, and the big wave of interest in it outside of this fandom.

I just can't shake this nagging feeling that this might be all just hot air . It is indeed impressive that they are doing a lot of "grandstanding" in this endeavor, however if the game can't deliver or out rank all this stuff. . . ugh, just - ugh.

Hmm. . . I wonder if they'll announce a lower price on this game? That $70 price tag is still getting to me. But whatever, as it stands, all this pessimistic hoo-haw is just water under the bridge.

If it is just hot air, I've lost nothing. It still beats LoS in character design and concept alone for me.

We shall never know till the game is sold and played. Yes the designes may be better or worse, but what about the game play? I have played games with a good story, but bad characters, and will always prefer that to amazing characters with no story. Also, what about the feel of the game, do the controls feel right? Do the rhythms that tend to develop have a good flow? What about the size levels? How about the engine? Can it handle being overloaded well or does it crash quickly? What about the camera work, is there always a good shot, is the camera to far away/close? Does it "vibrate" with quick movements? How efficient is the game, does it require a beefy setup with lots to spare, or can it run on the piece of junk that I have left unused in the corner of my room? Is the game overly simple, or is it enough of a challenge to make it fun? What kind of game is it actually, does that fit with what they realeased it as, or is it much closer to something else? What about the game itself, does it seem to want to be played, or does it seem like it wants to left alone in some abandoned corner to die forgotten? Will all the systems be glitch free, of will there be a glitch at just about every turn? Does the game look good as a whole, is it a sight for sore eyes, or is it like a blank sheet of paper? What about the sound, is it like listening to an orchestra, or is it a badly tuned radio? And finally, was the game wasted potential, or did it do an amazing job giving the player all they expected and more?

These are somewhat exaggerated, but it is the point that I wanted to make.
I think that may have been a bit blunt or harsh. Maybe a little long?

Quote: Zackeio

Quote: Razz

I expect it to be better than LoS, but, then, even when I liked LoS I expected a brick to be better than it, so that's not really a mark of high praise coming from me. It so far looks like it's going to be interesting at the least and I like what I've seen of the gameplay. Unlike the past several Spyro games we've had, it kind of looks fun to play in and of itself, which is nice.

Yeah, Skylanders isn't going to be GotY with Portal 2 hanging around, but no Spyro game has ever pulled that off so it's no loss. I am pleased to see how much effort Activision is putting into the project, though, and the big wave of interest in it outside of this fandom.

I just can't shake this nagging feeling that this might be all just hot air . It is indeed impressive that they are doing a lot of "grandstanding" in this endeavor, however if the game can't deliver or out rank all this stuff. . . ugh, just - ugh.

Hmm. . . I wonder if they'll announce a lower price on this game? That $70 price tag is still getting to me. But whatever, as it stands, all this pessimistic hoo-haw is just water under the bridge.

Considering that the game comes with the disk, the portal and three toys and that each toy had been said to cost 10 bucks or less, I think 70 dollars is a fair price for all you get. Unless of course it sucks, in which case it's a rip off.

The thing that worries me is that this game is bound to draw in a huge crowd, and assuming they flock the net and this site, things could become horrible on here if they're as bad as or worse than the Cyndorks and LOS loons.

@ Razz:
Well at least you have a nice fall back for this game. I have to admit that's pretty good to think like that. If this game fails at least I/ we'll get a toy action figure of one of our beloved character's.

@Smirf:
All those questions are for the Design / Development team. How the game plays from start to finish is design. How well it responded to those designs, is development. The real factor though, does it work well for the clients (us, the players). That, is still the main factor here, and we won't know till this fall.

@SpyroLuva:
Yeah, I can see what you mean. But again that depends on how this game was designed. If was designed to be another Epic Cookie Cutter game like LOS. . . then yeah, I can see some tiresome fans coming to this site.

Hopefully they learned from thier mistakes.

Quote: Zackeio

Hmm, what's causing you to have second thoughts?

Because I do like LoS. And Krome had a better track record than Toys For Bob.

Also note that while the toy idea looks good now, they can easily mess up during the span of 5 months. Anything can go wrong and make the game much less than anyone expected. Overall, it shows promise, but the idea of Toys For Bob of all teams to develop it is basically the big problem that jeopardises the entire game. IMO of course.

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I have lost interest in the game at this point. The gameplay is mediocre from the trailer and screenshots. They haven't shown anything significant to do with the gameplay since the initial announcement either, which leads me to believe the premise of the game is unchanged (ie. generic "run, jump, attack" game). And I am playing games that are far more interesting, and will still be playing them when this game comes out, and there are more games coming out near that time that are more interesting to me (see my avatar for example).

It just looks like a replacement for Guitar Hero, only in a different genre. I sure hope Spyro gets to leave this Skylanders thing. If Spyro gets another series to properly call his own again, I will have some hope for the little guy. Otherwise, I will probably stop buying new installments(such as this one).

Sony, Sony, Sony... you only saw gameplay of the game from only the trailer and screenshots. Why not also look at the other gameplay of Skylanders that are already released, instead of just looking and relying on a few gameplay details that were revealed since February?

I belei ve he WAS reffering to all the gameplay seen so far.

Quote: sonicbrawler182

(ie. generic "run, jump, attack" game).

A lot of platformers are the "generic run jump attack" game that you state here. Mario is like that. Sonic is like that. LBP is like that once you take out the creation tool. Hell, Classic Spyro was like that.

And besides, what's stopping Sonic Generations from being "generic"? We have even less gameplay footage of that (none to be exact).

Quote: Aura24

Sony, Sony, Sony

Where'd that Sony piece come from? 0_o

Sony, small nickname I came up with, short for sonicbrawler X3

Quote: CAV

Quote: sonicbrawler182

(ie. generic "run, jump, attack" game).

A lot of platformers are the "generic run jump attack" game that you state here. Mario is like that. Sonic is like that. LBP is like that once you take out the creation tool. Hell, Classic Spyro was like that.

I agree. You're not used to platformers or something, sonicbrawler?

Aura, all of those other "gameplay" videos don't even show anything at all. They usually just show them demonstrating the Portal of Power. All you see is Spyro switch out with another character, or vice versa. And there are others that are of terrible quality, and when I make out what is going on, there is nothing interesting.

You know as well as I do that next to no gameplay details were unveiled since February. They told us what some of the characters moves were (like Spyro's headbash), and that's about it since February, other than a few new characters.

At this stage, we can decide whether or not the game is worth the money, and to me, it isn't. You are not going to change my opinion. The only ones who can are the game developers, and to do that, they will have to unveil something about the game that makes it look worth my money and time.

I don't know why you are standing up for the game like it is a holy grail. Like you always say to the haters, it's not out yet. You don't know if you will like it. I have many valid reasons for not wanting the game, and even if I did get the game, I would probably hardly play it, as I have other games that are far more immersive and addicting.

Quote: sonicbrawler182

Aura, all of those other "gameplay" videos don't even show anything at all. They usually just show them demonstrating the Portal of Power. All you see is Spyro switch out with another character, or vice versa. And there are others that are of terrible quality, and when I make out what is going on, there is nothing interesting.

And with Sonic Generations, all we have is a small trailer of 2 Sonics running. That's even less than with Skylanders, but you're jumping all around the place for that game.

Quote: CAV

Quote: sonicbrawler182

Aura, all of those other "gameplay" videos don't even show anything at all. They usually just show them demonstrating the Portal of Power. All you see is Spyro switch out with another character, or vice versa. And there are others that are of terrible quality, and when I make out what is going on, there is nothing interesting.

And with Sonic Generations, all we have is a small trailer of 2 Sonics running. That's even less than with Skylanders, but you're jumping all around the place for that game.

Indeed.

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A lot of platformers are the "generic run jump attack" game that you state here. Mario is like that. Sonic is like that. LBP is like that once you take out the creation tool. Hell, Classic Spyro was like that.

Look at the announcement trailer for SMG 2. Now look at the Skylanders equivalent. Which looks more fun?
Now do the same for any Sonic game you like.
Now do the same for LBP.

Mario and Sonic usually have some sort of interesting idea with each installment.
LBP is still an inventive game without the creation tool, especially LBP 2, which actually changes genre. You only own LBP PSP, so you cannot make a backed-up judgement on that.

Skylanders, however, looks like Shrek The Third: The Video Game....and trust me, that game, while kind of fun, WAS generic.

True, we do only have a teaser trailer for Sonic Generations....
....but the idea presented is more interesting to me. And if you are observant, you can pick up a lot from the trailer. For one thing, Modern Sonic is going to play like Sonic Unleashed's day stages/Sonic Colours, and that gameplay looks far more interesting and original than the Skylanders one. Heck, Skylanders couldn't even get an original song for the trailer.

And CAV, can you stop exaggerating?
I'm not jumping around the place. I'm somewhat excited for Sonic Generations, yes, but I am cautious, as they could do anything with two Sonics, for better or for worse.

Obviously exclude SMG. I'm talking about the original 2D Mario series.

And you still didn't take note about how Classic Spyro was generally the same thing as Skylanders.

Yes, but with that trailer all you can do is assume. At least with Skylanders, you have actual footage (even though it's not much), and you have a general idea on what's going on. With Sonic, you can only assume, and actually have no idea what they are going to do. You may think what you are, and then they could pull something completely different for all you know. And regarding the music, did you possibly think that Zimmer is only composing now, and didn't have a full song ready for the trailer?

Sorry, but exaggerating is what I do best. And it's somewhat true, seeing how you seem very hyped for the game, almost to the point where I can imagine you jumping around.

The original 2D Mario games were more inventive than Skylanders too.

Classic Spyro is not the same as Skylanders. Skylanders clearly has a focus on over-simplified fighting, while Classic Spyro focused on adventuring. Enemies were very tertiary to the Classic Spyro games, where they seem primary to Skylanders.

No, you can do more than assume. As I said, you have to look carefully.

That's not a good enough excuse for me. They should of started recording earlier, or released the trailer later. This makes me fear that Skylanders may come out unpolished, like it's trailer.

I thought being serious was what you do best...

And it's not true. I'm not very hyped. I'm cautiously optimistic. I will be as harsh on Sonic Generations as I am on Skylanders, if they give me something to be harsh about.

Would you know? You haven't seen the full game.

Would you know?

Even when you look carefully, all you can do is guess.

I can't help you with that one.

So you've jumped on the serious bandwagon as well, rather than asking why I may be serious or if I actually am or not?

And they gave you nothing. They didn't really give you much to be that excited either. The game could go horribly wrong, and until I see gameplay footage, my opinion stands that I'm not that excited for that game.

But I know it's premise. The premise is all that matters when judging whether or not it's inventive. Inventive doesn't mean good though. But Skylanders does not look like either to me. Therefore, I'm not buying.

You must not be looking carefully enough.

I have not jumped on a serious bandwagon. I will act the eejit if the situation calls for it!

Again, did I say I was extremely excited?
No. You did.

I'm well aware it could go wrong. I haven't forgotten Sonic's 15th anniversary.
But in general, I trust Sonic Team more than Toys For Bob.
So naturally, I would be a bit more excited about a game from Sonic Team, or even the Sonic franchise. I kind of prefer Sonic to Spyro now.

A premise doesn't mean it's everything. They could easily change something, or be hiding something that isn't shown in the premise, and could actually happen later in the game, but they don't want to spoil it.

Again, a 43 minute trailer with no gameplay footage whatsoever doesn't tell me jack **** about what the game has to offer other than the two main characters (or one, depending on how you view it).

Well to me it seems like you jumped the bandwagon. Apparently to everyone here, I'm just a serious person. Rather than ask, people assume............Buuuuuuuut that's besides the point.

Yes, I did. Judging by the way you've been acting at times.

I don't. Toys For Bob may not have a good track record, but Sonic Team has a much worse one, with many more bad games, and those bad games being even worse than what TFB has made. So naturally, I don't trust Sonic Team for anything. Toys For Bob could make or break Spyro. But Sonic Team already broke Sonic, and people are begging for the death of the franchise. And only last year did Sonic Team try to redeem themselves. But frankly, it's too late. For one thing, critics have paid more mind to Skylanders than to Sonic Generations, even dispite the double Sonic action.

Well, what they have presented me so far does not amuse me. Therefore, my current stance is "not buying". It could change, but that's up to TFB.

And the fact is, I'm not intersted in Skylanders. I have no obligation to be. Do you think my reasons are invalid or something?

I'm serious when the situation calls for it, and I act the eejit when the situation calls for it.

I have not really said much about Sonic Generations. Most of what I said was some sort of random joke.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

My status so far is simply "rent". Same applies to Sonic, although I have more hope for Skylanders.

No I don't. But at the same time you're acting as if Sonic told you everything you need to know, even though it barely said anything.

Well you aren't acting like an eejit. You're acting serious, hence why I believe you're jumping the bandwagon.

Well it's trash for a lot of people, including me. I much rather trust TFB over Sonic Team.

My oh my....

Sonic didn't tell me everything I need to know. I just happen to be more intersted. I shouldn't even need to explain myself, but I did take the time to.

You should know by now I'm an equal balance of serious and whimsical!

it's fine if you have more faith in TFB. As far as I know, I have never even played any of their games anyway.

I've played a share of TFB games. They're lackluster. But not as bad as a good amount of Sonic Team's games. And Sonic Team has made many more bad games than TFB.

it is all a matter of opinion.

Skylanders' theme song, the song from the teaser trailer X3

Yay, a song that I've known for years and have on my MP3 Player has now been posted. I am so overjoyed.

Heey, I was only lightening up the mood that was on this topic X3

If that's what you wanted to do, just use this song:



Uplifting....

Quote: CAV

Because I do like LoS. And Krome had a better track record than Toys For Bob.

Also note that while the toy idea looks good now, they can easily mess up during the span of 5 months. Anything can go wrong and make the game much less than anyone expected. Overall, it shows promise, but the idea of Toys For Bob of all teams to develop it is basically the big problem that jeopardises the entire game. IMO of course.

I think I understand. . . You like the two LOS games (If I understand that correctly) and the reason why you do so is because Krome has more experience making video games than Toys for Bob. Also by the sounds of things, it looks like you want this game to be an exclusive only type game instead of a game that targets all platforms. . . right?

Quote: CAV

Yay, a song that I've known for years and have on my MP3 Player has now been posted. I am so overjoyed.

^This.

There's a time when every game developer is inexperienced, though, isn't there...? And you don't need a good track record to make another good game (*cough* Rare *cough*.)

Quote: Zackeio

I think I understand. . . You like the two LOS games (If I understand that correctly) and the reason why you do so is because Krome has more experience making video games than Toys for Bob. Also by the sounds of things, it looks like you want this game to be an exclusive only type game instead of a game that targets all platforms. . . right?

Actually, I like all 3 LoS games. Including DotD....

That's not the reason I like LoS.

And no, I don't want that.

^ Ah. . . Well no biggie I suppose.

I'm still skeptical because the developers have zero name recognition in terms of making great video games to the best of my knowledge. That could prove to be a problem... <.<;

Quote: HIR

I'm still skeptical because the developers have zero name recognition in terms of making great video games to the best of my knowledge. That could prove to be a problem... <.<;

From what I heard they made Star Control 2, which is one of the best games of all time apparently.

That doesn't change anything for me, since that was years ago. Toys For Bob is the one thing that can mess up the entire game.

Quote: CAV

Quote: HIR

I'm still skeptical because the developers have zero name recognition in terms of making great video games to the best of my knowledge. That could prove to be a problem... <.<;

From what I heard they made Star Control 2, which is one of the best games of all time apparently.

That doesn't change anything for me, since that was years ago. Toys For Bob is the one thing that can mess up the entire game.

Never heard of it. <.< >.>

Me neither.

After three weeks of a period where information drought occurs, it's time for me to make another update due to more info relating to this upcoming game! The next update is targeted at Sunday, 4/17/2011.

Time flew.

that was three weeks?
that felt longer and shorter
at the same time

It just felt shorter.

Quote: Smirf991

that was three weeks?
that felt longer and shorter
at the same time

......

Quote: iSO

After three weeks of a period where information drought occurs, it's time for me to make another update due to more info relating to this upcoming game! The next update is targeted at Sunday, 4/17/2011.

*blows party tooter*

A forgotten update I guess. =)

Yeah, where's the update? :/

Or iSO is sleeping, dealing with a situation, at school, having a life of his own... He doesn't have to do this at all, really. He can take all the time he wants to post the update.