darkSpyro

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Activision makes the decisions on how games should be made so therefore it's entirely their fault.

I have no hope to see a new GOOD Spyro game ever again unless Sony steps in.

No they don't. They say "we want a Spyro game that will be revolutionary". From there, it's all on the developer.

Sony doesn't own Spyro. So you're out of luck my friend.

And you still have yet to address a single point I made.

''Design doesn't do that. Personality is what makes you like a character. Not the design. That's like loving someone for their looks. It's very shallow.''

I believe that I said voice acting as well as design. I think that people look for both personality and looks when it comes to characters. This is also true for love.

''Yeah, back then that was a lot. And I recall people complaining.''

Were you referring to the Mario design here? How would you know? You weren't around back then.

''A good story, yes. The story is being made by the people that made Toy Story. I highly doubt they can make a crap story. And once again, story isn't neccessary. Mario doesn't have a story, but it still manages to be a fantastic series of games.''

Well, there's always a first for everything but you're right there's a good chance that it will have a decent story.

To you and me, no but not to everyone. People actually like games because of the story. Mario does have a story, just not as in depth as others.

''Notice how all of the hate and the wars for LoS didn't start until Dawn of the Dragon was released. Prior to that, nearly everyone loved the series. And several Classic fans still do. So technically, I'm not making things up.''

No I didn't notice but I am pretty sure that many people disliked LoS from the start. Several Classic fans do, several don't.

''Sonic 06 according to Sega themselves was suppose to be a reboot of the franchise. Does the design HAVE to be different just to be a reboot? Are you really that shallow?''

''The term reboot, in media dealing with serial fiction, means to discard much or even all previous continuity in the series and start anew with fresh ideas.''

Design looks the same AND GAMEPLAY looks the same. I said that before. I never just mentioned design.

But if Sega said so, then fine.

''Wait. How can the gameplay be so close to the Classic games, and still not be a Classic games? Because of the damn design? Are you kidding me??''

What? When I said it's been the closest to the Classics, I didn't mean it is very close. It still doesn't resemble the classics. It just looks like a standard platformer with Spyro in it.

''Ok, so it resembles the classic R&C games in terms of the design, even though the gameplay is different? You are seriously that shallow? I can't believe it.''

Even though I said in a different direction there is some resemblance in gameplay too (I should have said that before). Gadgets, breaking crates, collecting bolts, platforming, swingshots. Very familiar.

All I said was, I was okay with it. It will not be better than the other Ratchet games.

VA is a part of personality, so yeah it does matter. Design doesn't matter THAT much to the point that someone can deem the entire game sucks before they even play it.

Were you?

Glad we agree on something.

To me, gameplay makes the game. A fantastic story is great and makes the game better, but it's useless of the gameplay is broken in the first place.

Yes, you had several people that didn't like LoS. But a lot of those people grew to love it, until DotD. LoS is love it or hate it. But a lot of Classic fans loved it up until DotD. Also note that with DotD, the developers listened to the fans, and got suggestions from them. They followed what the fans wanted. But look what happened. Toys For Bob is actually making a smart move by not listening to the fans. You don't want another DotD do you?

They do. I don't know. From there, I'm just following Sega's word.

It's impossible to be exactly like the Classics. Like I said, the only way that can happen is if Insomniac developed the games. And they stated that they don't want to.

Pfft. Ignorant fool.

How am I being the ignorant fool? I'm not the the one screaming "You fail!" to anyone that likes the design. Nor am I the one that's avoiding a point.

You want a valid point THAT badly? Fine! Skylanders' use of small toys with "brains" even though they are made from plastic and in no way carry any real data. Even if they do there's no guarantee it would be innovative since some of Activision's other titles are low-budget and go directly to the bargain bin (film licenses and a few guitar hero games).
This wouldn't be the first time Activision commissioned something gimmicky. Remember that awful motion sensing board in tony hawks ride and shred rather than what made Pro Skater popular in the first place? Remember how horribly they failed? Remember how this killed the Tony Hawks franchise? Whenever Skylanders is released, I doubt children would be bothered to get something as gimmicky. That fad is 10 years out of date.
The game has 32 characters? Why 32? I don't remember 32 characters. Aside Spyro, there was Sparx, Gnasty Gorc, Elora, Hunter, the professor, Zoe, Ripto, Gulp, Crush, Moneybags, Bianca, the Sorceress, Sheila, Sgt. Byrd, Bently, Agent 9 but if Skylanders is based on the original series then why aren't all in it? Who are all these rejects? I never saw them in a Spyro game before.
Speaking of rejects, that goblin Spyro is based off REJECTED design in favour for the one we know and love. Why do you think Insomniac chose the final design that looks like a dragon? What I'm seeing in Skylanders is not a dragon.
Your still forgetting Activision only publishes **** games now such as the horrendous Call of Duty and their dreadful Spiderman games. As long as a greedy asshole like Bobby Kotick is in charge, no game released by Activison will ever be good and Skylanders is no exception.
As for music, Spyro had Stewart Copeland who helped made a unique fantasy theme with a bit of rock on the side. I don't anything about Zimmer but if Spyro had to get a new composer, let it be Daisuke Ishiwatari (Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, Hard Corps Uprising)

THANK YOU FOR FINALLY MAKING SENSE.

They actually work like USB flash drives. They contain the same kind of chip. So technically, the toys are flash drives.

Activision didn't make the Tony Hawk Ride board. I would be happy if they did because then I can pin all the blame on them, but they didn't make the board. Neversoft did. Activision didn't kill Tony Hawk. Neversoft did by not knowing how to make a proper board.

You are aware that the game is a reboot? Therefore, Spyro is the only character returning in the series. If you read the plot summary, you would know that each of the 32 characters come from different universes.

Dude, dragons aren't real. Therefore, anyone can make a design of one in any way they choose. It doesn't HAVE to follow a template other than the fact that it has wings.

So because Kotick is a greedy bastard, every game from Activision is going to suck? What sense does that make? It's not like he's developing the games himself. Like you said, Activision only publishes them. If a game sucks or not is completely on the developer.

And I'm not forgetting anything. I think Call of Duty, Prototype, War For Cybertron, Goldeneye, and a few other games to be fantastic. If you think all of their games are crap, then that's fine. But don't blame Activision when all they do is slap their name on the final product. Blame the developers if you think a game sucks.

Ah. There's the problem. You don't know Hans Zimmer's music. So then why are you saying "**** ZIMMER"? If you want an few examples of his work, look at the soundtracks for The Lion King, Modern Warfare 2, The Dark Knight, and Inception.

I'm glad you finally decided to address the points I made. Calling me ignorant when you were being ingorant yourself isn't how you win an argument.

This was a waste of time. You'll when the game gets a 1/10. I wish Activision would just die! They are a plague to the gaming industry. Exploiting dull games that can never hold a candle to the real iconic classics EVERY SINGLE YEAR! Bobby Kotick even said he wants to take the fun out of making games. Do yourself a favour, play the PS1 Spyro games, Final Fantasy XIII, BlazBlue, Super Mario Galaxy or CTR: Crash Team Racing and see what your missing out.

What's a waste of time is you flaming people that like the design.

The game won't get a 1/10. The game could be bad, but it's a garentee that it won't get a 1/10. It could get a 3/10, but a 1/10 is out of the question.

Activision isn't a plague. They are greedy bastards yes, but they aren't the plague. Sega is.

Can I get proof that Kotick said that? Because it looks to me like you're blowing smoke out of you ass.

Funny how you mention those games when I have EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

Why do we always have to deal with ungrateful b******s every single ******g day of our lives?

I'm more talking about trolls. People who decide to create flame topics against others because they don't like them. A flame topic was created against me, and the people on there are ridiculous. Mad at me because I closed a topic they were trolling.

Who is Steve?

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Who is Steve?

Steve, if I'm not mistaken, is the user that CAV is talking to on Deviant Art. Pretty much, Steve is the unaware special guest, and main reason, for this thread.

So, with these "rules" in mind, the more Steve hates something the stronger it gets. In other words, and going with that logic, it would appear that Steve or any other troll for that manner is careening straight into a concrete wall. *shrugs*

Irony can be pretty harsh at times.

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So, with these "rules" in mind, the more Steve hates something the stronger it gets. In other words, and going with that logic, it would appear that Steve or any other troll for that manner is careening straight into a concrete wall. *shrugs*

Irony can be pretty harsh at times.

Steve isn't a troll. He's being dead serious.

So stevie is just your average, blind, and ignorant fool?

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So, with these "rules" in mind, the more Steve hates something the stronger it gets. In other words, and going with that logic, it would appear that Steve or any other troll for that manner is careening straight into a concrete wall. *shrugs*

Irony can be pretty harsh at times.

Steve isn't a troll. He's being dead serious.

So stevie is just your average, blind, and ignorant fool?

Well without trolls we wouldn't appreciate the better behaved people.
Besides it's rather fun to read

^Yes, but:

1. He doesn't seem to understand that Insomniac wants nothing to do with the franchise anymore.

2. Skylanders is a step to something bigger.

3. Apparently EVERYTHING from Activision is crap.

4. Flaming people for liking the design is not the proper way to act, and he should know this.

I can feel for him on that one. Sometimes I wish that Insomniac would reconsider making another Spyro game for old time's sake. But sometimes a different developer can out do the original. This is rare with today's standards, but there are some sparse good examples, IMO anyway, of this.

Well, that might be true, and that might not be. Sometimes bigger isn't always better, but one has to give credit for trying to find new land - so to speak. Lewis and Clark did it, and look what they found. SSA is not going to have a smooth ride into finding new fans, that's for sure.

If what you mean by bigger is in Activision making an "actual Spyro game", again that's IF they hold true to their word.

Well apparently he doesn't like Activision . Again, I concede to that, I don't like how they handle things, and I bet that's why Steve is so upset. I can assume that Activision is like the devil, to Steve, and the Devil has taken his childhood away from him, and there's nothing that he can do about it besides going on a tantrum. However, if he really wants to put the hurt on Activision, then instead whining about it, he should endure the struggles of being a game developer and make games, under the table so to speak, and persuade or lure all of Activison's fans away from them by giving them something else more alluring.

That or don't buy anything from Activision.

Should know, is not the same as, showing what they know. One's age does not factor into one's maturity. I've seen some pretty old people act like a 5 year old just because something didn't go their way. People can loose their control under certain circumstances. Some people have better experience maintaining their control than others. In this case, Activision has unknowingly pushed Steve's buttons and this is the result.

Hmm, whether or not he knows how to act, it would appear that he refuses to act in that manner to anyone who shows any like towards SSA. Its a small vendetta if you will.

However, mind if I ask you something: Why did you confront this guy to begin with? Out of anything he seems beyond persuasion, and learning the hard way would probably be best for him.

He's actually started to calm down. He's acting sane for the first time.

Because if I see ignorance and I don't do anything about it, it ends up eating me alive and keeping me up at night. Ignorance is a pet peeve of mine, and a really bad one at that.

Try not to get too over zealous now, ok?

He'll burn out eventually. You said it yourself, he's calmer now.

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He'll burn out eventually. You said it yourself, he's calmer now.

He claims he'll wait for reviews. Glad to see I got through to him.

Why is everyone making such a fuss over this game? I mean really, it is just a game. Calm down people.

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Why is everyone making such a fuss over this game? I mean really, it is just a game. Calm down people.

Yeah, but Spyro has been a part of their childhood and it's hard to let it go and see it change. To me, I don't really mind if Spyro looks different instead of the design others are so used to.

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Why is everyone making such a fuss over this game? I mean really, it is just a game. Calm down people.

Yeah, but Spyro has been a part of their childhood and it's hard to let it go and see it change. To me, I don't really mind if Spyro looks different instead of the design others are so used to.

I understand, Spyro has been a part of my childhood too, but designs aren't a big deal for me. To be honest, I'm not really interested in this game yet but I won't judge it untill I see more.