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OH MY GOD! Forget what I said earlier. THIS IS WAY LESS CREDITABLE then what that Laura Ann Franks fellow did. At she "tried" to make Spyro respectable (and failed) but THIS... FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!

HOW CAN THEY **** UP designing Spyro!? HOW hard is it to make a small purple dragon look like this! Why does he look like Crazy Frog!?

I ****ING HATE ACTIVISION! I ****ING HATE ACTIVISION!! I ****ING HATE ACTIVISION!!! AND ANYONE WHO LIKE THIS PIECE OF ****! You know what, **** is too ****ing good of a word to describe... THIS!

So because of a DESIGN, you automatically deem that the game sucks, and that you hate anyone that thinks the game is decent in any way. And along with it you decided to have a hissyfit, once again, because of a DESIGN.

I would understand it if you actually played the game and you don't like the gameplay, but you haven't played the game, and there isn't enough gameplay footage to hate it. But to hate a game because of a DESIGN is rather shallow.

Spyro was a beloved icon. You can't change an icon. That's like changing Mario or Master Chief. It doesn't work! Remember how they changed Sonic in Sonic Adventure? Design reflects what the game is about, without that familiar atmosphere, there's no point playing the game. You can't have gameplay and no story. You need a reason why to play through to the end. That is why I won't be getting DmC or this new abomination.

The trailer itself was already unfaithful to the Spyro universe in terms or music, camera angle, fireball as oppose to just breathing fire and all those characters. Nothing about Skylanders fits in the Spyro universe, especially the PS1 Insomniac Games-developed trilogy. Skylanders is being done by Activision so you know it will suck.

Several popular characters have gone through design changes without much complaining. Why when Spyro goes through the process do we need to hear *****ing?

And Mario DID go through a design change. In the first game he had red trousers and a green shirt, instead of the blue trousers and red shirt we are all used to.

Design is made to show off the developer's artistic feel. It doesn't dominate the entire game. Yes, it's true that you NEED gameplay. But at the same time, it's possible for the gameplay to be broken, and that has happened several times before, in the Spyro franchise itself (Enter the Dragonfly was a glitchy, broken mess of a game).

You need a reason why to play through to the end. Design makes you want to play until the very end? No. I don't know how it is with you, but for me what makes me play a game until the very end is great gameplay. I didn't play through all of Mass Effect 2 and Super Mario Galaxy 2 because the design was nice. It's because the gameplay was amazing and is something that could keep you glued to the screen for hours. If design is the reason you play games, then you have some problems and you can be considered shallow by some people.

The trailer, music, gameplay, and camera angle was unfaithful to Spyro? So was everything about LoS, and yet everybody gobbled it up and loved that **** to death. And the music. Hans. Freakin. Zimmer. This is the greatest composer of the modern day.

Skylanders is a reboot. Once again, LoS didn't fit into the Insomniac trilogy of games. Skylanders is wiping the slate clean. Everything that happened in the past games didn't happen at all. It's just like how Sonic 06 was a reboot of the series (a terrible one at that).

So because Activision is PUBLISHING (not developing, PUBLISHING) the game, it's going to suck. You don't know that. I don't know that. Nobody knows that.

Now, I hate Activision with every fiber of my being. Not because of their games, but because of their business decisions. I love their games to death. Call of Duty, Transformers, Spiderman, Prototype, Singularity, Goldeneye, Guitar Hero, classic Tony Hawk, you name it. I hate them only because of how they milk franchises (Call of Duty), and leave others to rot. They would milk Call of Duty (and they still are), and would leave Spyro to rot. Then you guys would ***** and whine about how you want this and that in the next Spyro game.

They are giving it to you now. Gameplay, level design, and everything is meant to be a tribute to the original games. You guys are getting what you've been asking for, and all you can do is ***** about Spyro's design. That is just sickening.

But if you want Spyro's old design back, here's what you can do. Go here: http://www.insomniacgames.com/about/contact_us/ and beg for them to make the games again, then watch as they ignore you or tell you what they said years ago on how they ran out of ideas for the franchise.

They need to realize that Insomniac isn't gonna be making any more Spyro games. They said it themselves they won't be making any more because they have no more ideas for the franchise. I hate Activision, too, because they overmilk CoD and their business plans, but I'm giving them a chance with Skylanders.

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They need to realize that Insomniac isn't gonna be making any more Spyro games. They said it themselves they won't be making any more because they have no more ideas for the franchise. I hate Activision, too, because they overmilk CoD and their business plans, but I'm giving them a chance with Skylanders.

Just because I hate Activision's business decisions doesn't mean I won't buy their games. I love almost all of the games they have. So obviously, I won't shun Skylanders simply because Activision is PUBLISHING (not developing, PUBLISHING) the game. I gotta wonder if this guy even knows what publishing means.

I've played a few games from them in the past and I thought they were okay. I never was a huge fan of the company. I was more of a Nintendo and Sega fan.

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I've played a few games from them in the past and I thought they were okay. I never was a huge fan of the company. I was more of a Nintendo and Sega fan.

I never stay loyal to certain publishers, but I do perfer some over others. Publishers I like are:

Nintendo
Capcom
EA

Developers are a different story. There are several out there that I love.

But now you know how much of a bastard I can be when I get pissed off.

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But now you know how much of a bastard I can be when I get pissed off.

I'm sorry, but all I see is an intelligent individual pointing out the facts to a whiny anti-SSA kid.

Seriously though, that's just..... Ugh.

Fans shouldn't even deserve to call themselves a Spyro fan if they only judge a video game by the character design of Spyro....

My main beef with these giant crybabies who are whining about the new design is mostly that they make calmer classic fans look bad. Really bad. The Spyro fandom as a whole has a horrible reputation right now and this is all just making it worse and more or less confirming the negative commentary about us.

Sonic, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, and Halo/Call of Duty have the worst fanbases out there. But with this fiasco, the Spyro fanbase is headed in there, and ARE the worst fanbase as of right now, since the other fanbases I just listed don't have much to talk about at the moment.

The one fanbase I'm still a part of and they gotta act like this.

I like to think there's a fair bit of difference between being confused about why people are upset and trying to figure it out to drawing images of a dead Spyro lying in a pool of his own blood with an Activision sign jammed into him. Or between having a conversation with fellow like-minded fans as opposed to screaming obscenities on every Skylanders video posted to YouTube.

...'What a sad, strange little man.'

Aren't you guys being just as bad as the whiners? All your doing is whining about people whining, it's a endless pardox of butthurt. Oh no! some random guy on the internet doesn't like the same things I do! I must tell dS right away

All of Activision's games are ****! I don't want to see anymore of the kind of games they release. I hope critics tear Skylanders a new one! You forget Activision tried to "innovate" with Tony Hawks Ride and Shred and what happened? They killed the franchise! This is what happens when you abandon what made a game popular in the first place for something alien and half-assed! Skylanders isn't a Spyro game it just has Spyro's name on it so then don't have to put any effort into making a Spyro game that is about Spyro.

I'll just stick to games that remind me of PS1 Spyro such as BlazBlue and Final Fantasy XIII.

**** Skylanders! **** Zimmer! And Call of Duty!

Activision didn't develop and create the Tony Hawk Ride board. Neversoft did. Once again, Activision PUBLISHES the games. They don't make them. Just like how they aren't making Skylanders. They are PUBLISHING the game. Do you know what publishing means?

**** Zimmer? Have you heard ANY of Hans Zimmer's music? Saying that tells me that you didn't hear a single track from him.

You didn't make a single valid point with that comment. I addressed several things to you, and you ignored them all and instead decided to scream "ACTIVISION SUCKS!". That doesn't make a valid arguement.

@ CAV

Yes, several characters have gone through changes in design without complaining but there are just as many characters who go through changes with A LOT of complaining. Let's take Crash Bandicoot for example, there were lots of people that hated his new look in Titans and the supporting characters too. Sonic is also an example. Sly Cooper changed his look for Move Heroes with a lot of complaining. Banjo and Bomberman too.

Design of a character influences whether they like a character or not, voice acting too. If you liked a character and play with them through several games, you might become attached to them. If you change the design and/or voice you lose that attachment because they become almost a completely different character.

Yes, it's true that character design doesn't make a game fun but it can make you like or dislike a character, which seems to important nowadays in gaming.

Mario just changed his colour of shirt and trousers. Wow! He still had his famous red cap and moustache, didn't he? Besides, he hasn't changed since. Over 20 years!

Yes, Gameplay is what makes me play the game till the end. That is true but it's worth saying that there are people that need a good story for them to finish the game.


''So was everything about LoS, and yet everybody gobbled it up and loved that **** to death.''

No. No. No. No. Stop making things up. There are a great number of people who HATED that series. Why do you think there are so many LOS vs Classic wars on YouTube and on the forums?

Was Sonic 06 actually a reboot of the Sonic series? The character designs were the same, the gameplay looks the same (but broken). I haven't played it but from what I've seen, it was just another entry to the series rather than a reboot.

''You guys are getting what you've been asking for''

No. No. No. This is not what we asked for.

I see flame breath and charge attack. I see colourful landscapes. That's about it. The gameplay is the closest to Classics yet but it's still not a Classic type game.

Let's look at All 4 One, the new Ratchet game. It took a different direction in terms of gameplay. I'm okay with this because it still resembles the classic Ratchet & Clank games.

Yes, they go through complaining, and then they boycott the game. It's one of the worst things you can do. The Spyro fandom as bad (if not worse) than the Sonic fandom when they complained about Sonic 4 having green eyes.

Design doesn't do that. Personality is what makes you like a character. Not the design. That's like loving someone for their looks. It's very shallow.

It cannot make you like or dislike a character. And gameplay is still more important to this day.

Yeah, back then that was a lot. And I recall people complaining.

A good story, yes. The story is being made by the people that made Toy Story. I highly doubt they can make a crap story. And once again, story isn't neccessary. Mario doesn't have a story, but it still manages to be a fantastic series of games.

Notice how all of the hate and the wars for LoS didn't start until Dawn of the Dragon was released. Prior to that, nearly everyone loved the series. And several Classic fans still do. So technically, I'm not making things up.

Sonic 06 according to Sega themselves was suppose to be a reboot of the franchise. Does the design HAVE to be different just to be a reboot? Are you really that shallow?

Wait. How can the gameplay be so close to the Classic games, and still not be a Classic games? Because of the damn design? Are you kidding me??

Ok, so it resembles the classic R&C games in terms of the design, even though the gameplay is different? You are seriously that shallow? I can't believe it.

Oh shut up CAV and get off your high horse, you totally missed of the point of what I was saying once again. Oh look I didn't quote anybody and this proves what point? Hell what point are trying to get prove anyway? Of course I wouldn't say anything because I don't have a reason too, personally I don't have the time for some random fantard, the entire internet is filled with them. Hell by the look the things, it's just some random troll. Stop being so paranoid, also how do you know I haven't told my opinion to anybody else? Seriously, you keep coming quick conclusions way too quickly again and again.

I agree but each to his own. People like that won't change anyway; you're wasting your time. You were thoughtful and sensible in your response, much more than him, but just a mad from what I could tell, so I will say to you what I say to people like him, many others and to myself more often than I like to admit: Chill. Just Chill. It's a game, so just relax, play, have fun, and when your done express your opinion by all means, but I would reccomend you, I and us all try not to get too upset about it.

Also, I agree with Blackholes, Byrn, Razz, and Zackieo.

And finally, we have enough of our own trolls, flamewars, whiners and spaz attacks on this site as it is. Is it really necessary to bring a pointless fight between a regular guy and a scorned, angry kid onto this site from somewhere else too?

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Oh shut up CAV and get off your high horse, you totally missed of the point of what I was saying once again. Oh look I didn't quote anybody and this proves what point? Hell what point are trying to get prove anyway? Of course I wouldn't say anything because I don't have a reason too, personally I don't have the time for some random fantard, the entire internet is filled with them. Hell by the look the things, it's just some random troll. Stop being so paranoid, also how do you know I haven't told my opinion to anybody else? Seriously, you keep coming quick conclusions way too quickly again and again.

I haven't seen you say this to anybody else on the site. You stay silent until I say something or make a topic, and then you say something. That gives me the vibe that you are being biased. So yes, I am jumping to conclusions, and I'm calling it how I see it. Don't say you haven't done that before. Don't you remember when you claimed I was new to the internet?

I didn't look for a random fantard. I was scrolling through topics here, and I found that image. His description and his attitude towards everything warranted a response. This is simply me, doing what I do best, responding to the ignorant.

And I was looking through his comments. He's claiming "YOU FAIL" to anyone that says "I like the design", and he praises anyone that agrees with him. He's being dead serious.

Be biased to who? YOU? The reason why I posted in this topic is because I was put my point across, it's the entire point of a message board. But apparently I can't post because I might be biased towards you