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Quote: Aura24

Well, it is Spyro's beginning. Maybe afterwards, after the trilogy, they'll continue in the LoS universe without so much war going on in the game.

I hope so.

Wars are cool though!.

And I'm sorry, but the clasics, over all for me 4/10. I hate hate hate them.
Legend is 100/10 IMO. I'm sorry but it is about time Spyro grew up.

Quote: spyrocynderfan7

Wars are cool though!.

And I'm sorry, but the clasics, over all for me 4/10. I hate hate hate them.
Legend is 100/10 IMO. I'm sorry but it is about time Spyro grew up.

Better watch out, I sense some Classic fans will disagree with you on the Classic opinion part..

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but it is about time Spyro grew up.

Again, I don't hate the series. I hate the wars...

WE KNOW.

Wars are cool.

And I don't care how people feel about LoS and Classics.

Like my profile says, I respect others opinions, but I love Legend, and nobody will change my mind.

Ahh, I won't bother explaining what I meant, because nobody will understand me.

But more on-topic again, I think it would be awesome if Amaze Entertainment(Creators of the GBA version of TEN) would make the game. I have almost 0% confidence in it, but I'd like that.

Yuk.

How about Bioware? Or interplay?
(MDK)
Or microsoft?
(Halo)

I guess if Krome were still in business, they'd be making it...

I'd vote for RARE, but they haven't made any good games in the past years I can think of thanks to Microsoft.

Quote: Aura24

Better watch out, I sense some Classic fans will disagree with you on the Classic opinion part..

Classic fans would accept his opinion regardless.

Classic Nazis will bomb him and want to behead him for saying that.

Quote: Aura24

WE KNOW.

CAPS MEANS YOU'RE SHOUTING. XO

As for wars, I don't mind them. Some games were meant for wars, usually FPS and Action/Adventure. But there are games that weren't. Spyro is meant to have both. Times of peace, and times where the peace got disturbed.

But you gotta think: If SK didn't have a war or any fighting, then what would you do for the entire game? Play Spyro Tetris?

I meant the fan wars!

Hm...

Oh!! Make yourslef clearer next time plz.

Anyway, RARE did GoldenEye 007, which was one h*** of a game. So I cansee that being good if it was the case.

Oh, well my mistake.

My opinion still stands though about wars in the games.

If I was to choose a developer for SK (besides Insomniac), it would be Radical or Capcom. Radical did a great job with Prototype and I would love to see what they could do with Spyro, and Capcom is one of the best developers out there at the moment.

Was it in development for a similar time as SK?

Capcom is only famous for Street Fighter and other cheesy Japanese games.

RARE, krome(plz reopen!), bioware, interplay, heck even Ubisoft, or maybe infogames interactive.

Insomniac tortured and pummeled spyro and left him for dead along side the street in the middle of a bblizzard (and Spyrocynderfan took him under his wing and raised Spyro back to health and now they are the bestsest of friends.)

Capcom also have MegaMan. *inb4Isis*

ubisoft or bioware are best for spyro.

^dah!^

Hell, I'm gonna say it. I think that if ANY company is GARENTEED to do the franchise justice, it would be Nintendo or Media Molecule if they were to work on something other than LBP.

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Capcom is only famous for Street Fighter and other cheesy Japanese games.

RARE, krome(plz reopen!), bioware, interplay, heck even Ubisoft, or maybe infogames interactive.

Megaman, Street Fighter, Dead Rising, Resident Evil, Darkstalkers, Pheonix Wright.

Rare is dead and isn't coming back.

Bioware could work if the game was an RPG. Otherwise, not really.

Interplay, maybe.

And while Ubisoft has a share amount of good games, it's weighed down by all of the terrible games they've made. I wouldn't really trust them with the franchise.

ubisoft could make just about any already half decent game into a headline game

Any company family-friendly could do it. That's why I'm happy SK is Ninty 'sclusive- while I feel sorry for everybody without a Wii or DS, Platformers mainly tend to be for everyone, and most of the darker ones are either unknown or bad. And Nintendo make great platformers; even the ones their third-party developers make are usually noteworthy titles.

EDIT: I forgot there's no proof this is going to have platforming

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Damn, I'm really scared about this now... At least we knew what to expect with ELB, but now it could be anyone or anything.

Am I the only one sensing that the new ETD is about to be made? Aw, crap. Please, no.

I loved ETD, so if SK turns out like it, I wouldn't mind it. :D

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Yeah what do you guys have againmst DotD? I'm on Warfang and the game if freaking awesome! Sure spyro and cynder looked different, but I'm used to it now. Cynder doesn't say "hiya" when she aatacks, I've played her most the game, and the only downside is the freaking chain and in valley of avalar, transporting the orbs to weight the raft.

I'm currently playing DotD as well, and have to agree... why do people hate the game? It's a HUGE improvement from TEN, and IMO the best Spyro game since YotD.

It sucks if you compare it to any other game outside the Spyro series. Comparing this game, which the creepy obsessive DotD fans consider the best game ever, to games like Zelda OoT, Zelda MM, Rayman 2 & 3 and Starfox 64 (love these games to bits. <3), it sucks big time. Even though people go as far to say, "DOTD IS DAD BEST GAME EVA!!!111", it's just impossible to compare it to the games listed above. IMO, the first three Spyro games can be compared to the games above and can be listed in there easily. <3

Quote: Aura24

Quote: spyrocynderfan7

Wars are cool though!.

And I'm sorry, but the clasics, over all for me 4/10. I hate hate hate them.
Legend is 100/10 IMO. I'm sorry but it is about time Spyro grew up.

Better watch out, I sense some Classic fans will disagree with you on the Classic opinion part..

And you don't think that TLOS fans do the same thing? Class fans aren't aloud to dis TLOS at all without some sort of complaint, yet TLOS fans can say whatever they want without any complaints like the comment above this rant (besides Aura's comment, which was mocking more than anything). And it seems to come out of your (Aura's) mouth in particular all the time. I'm sick off hearing, "oh, classic fans this... classic fans that...". It's all aimed at the classic fans. How about listening to our story for once instead of just going, "lol get over it and stop playing Spyro games" and supporting the whiny TLOS fans 100%? This is aimed at everyone who hates the classic fans, not just one person in particular.

Quote: spyrocynderfan7

Wars are cool though!.

And I'm sorry, but the clasics, over all for me 4/10. I hate hate hate them.
Legend is 100/10 IMO. I'm sorry but it is about time Spyro grew up.

No surprise there. People seem to only like the originals if they've grown up with them from the very beginning and are loyal to the characters, not liking the new series just because it has the same name and the fact that the main character is a purple dragon (no offense to anyone).

There is no reason for me to give my rating on both series. I'm pretty sure everyone knows it. It's the exact opposite to your rating, literally. xD

Also, you're not getting what GM is trying to say. She's (you are female, right GM? If not, then I'm sorry xD) not saying that War games aren't fun. She's talking about the fans. Look what's happening now. People are arguing because they get buthurt if one doesn't like their game. They complain if one person doesn't like their series. There is an originals vs TLOS going on at the moment, and it's just stupid. It got worse when DOTD came out, attracting a bunch of fans who are under 10, even under 9. That's what GM is talking about. Well, at least the originals vs legend part. Or, I'm the one who's wrong, and you support the war that's going on, thinking it's fun? If so... that's just... sick. >.<

I to, sometimes wish TLOS never happened, and it's not because I hate the games or anything similar to that. It's just that if TLOS was never made, this war wouldn't have started. Oh, if only Universal didn't rush ETD....

I used to be apart of that flamewar, and I used to be on the originals side, but now I've come to my senses and stopped. I now wish that the war would just stop acting like whiny children and accept each other's opinion without feeling buthurt all the time, or at least handle things in a mature manner and not like whiny little children. Even though I still love the originals and hate the legend, I still think this flame war is ridicules.

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10/10 across the board.

Who cares? As long as its fun that's all that matters!
Who gives a **** about the way it was written. It slaughters ANB and TEN.

DotD awesome game! That's my last word on the subject.

No offense, but that post sounded rather dumb. A game that's badly written cannot be enjoyable even if you force yourself to love it. So how can it be enjoyable in the first place? Also, I prefer ANB out of the three. I actually didn't mind ANB until it got extremely serious and predictable. I liked it up to the end of Tall Pines, when the game had a light hearted atmosphere to it even though the plot was serious. But it was mainly because I thought that ANB was a prequil to STD at first. I

If anyone wants to know why I don't like TLOS, read this review. It sums up all the reasons.

http://www.freewebs.com/vicieron/ranttime.htm < Srlsy, go to it before you go complaining to me.

I'm guessing no one is going to say, "lol be careful the TLOS fans might get buthurt" because TLOS fanbase is supported 100%, and it's the classic fans that get all the hate.

End of rant. I'm not talking about it anymore unless I read another bunch of dumb (no offense. I'm just really pissed off) comment.

When I was wondering if they looked into the Original Spyro games before the reboot, by the reboot I meant TLoS.. NOT another reboot. Should've made myself clearer.

Oh, sorry for double posting BTW. :<

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Yeah what do you guys have againmst DotD? I'm on Warfang and the game if freaking awesome! Sure spyro and cynder looked different, but I'm used to it now. Cynder doesn't say "hiya" when she aatacks, I've played her most the game, and the only downside is the freaking chain and in valley of avalar, transporting the orbs to weight the raft.

I'm currently playing DotD as well, and have to agree... why do people hate the game? It's a HUGE improvement from TEN, and IMO the best Spyro game since YotD.

It sucks if you compare it to any other game outside the Spyro series. Comparing this game, which the creepy obsessive DotD fans consider the best game ever, to games like Zelda OoT, Zelda MM, Rayman 2 & 3 and Starfox 64 (love these games to bits. <3), it sucks big time. Even though people go as far to say, "DOTD IS DAD BEST GAME EVA!!!111", it's just impossible to compare it to the games listed above. IMO, the first three Spyro games can be compared to the games above and can be listed in there easily. <3

Quote: Aura24

Quote: spyrocynderfan7

Wars are cool though!.

And I'm sorry, but the clasics, over all for me 4/10. I hate hate hate them.
Legend is 100/10 IMO. I'm sorry but it is about time Spyro grew up.

Better watch out, I sense some Classic fans will disagree with you on the Classic opinion part..

And you don't think that TLOS fans do the same thing? Class fans aren't aloud to dis TLOS at all without some sort of complaint, and it seems to come out of your mouth in particular all the time. I'm sick off hearing, "oh, classic fans this... classic fans that...". It's all aimed at the classic fans. How about listening to our story for once instead of just going, "lol get over it and stop playing Spyro games" and suporting the whiny TLOS fans 100%?

Quote: spyrocynderfan7

Wars are cool though!.

And I'm sorry, but the clasics, over all for me 4/10. I hate hate hate them.
Legend is 100/10 IMO. I'm sorry but it is about time Spyro grew up.

No surprise there. People seem to only like the originals if they've grown up with them from the very beginning and are loyal to the characters, not liking the new series just because it has the same name and the fact that the main character is a purple dragon (no offense to anyone).

There is no reason for me to give my rating on both series. I'm pretty sure everyone knows it. It's the exact opposite to your rating, literally. xD

Also, you're not getting what GM is trying to say. She's (you are female, right GM? If not, then I'm sorry xD) not saying that War games aren't fun. She's talking about the fans. Look what's happening now. People are arguing because they get buthurt if one doesn't like their game. They complain if one person doesn't like their series. There is an originals vs TLOS going on at the moment, and it's just stupid. It got worse when DOTD came out, attracting a bunch of fans who are under 10, even under 9. That's what GM is talking about. Well, at least the originals vs legend part. I to, sometimes wish TLOS never happened, and it's not because I hate the games or anything similar to that. It's just that if TLOS was never made, this war wouldn't have started. Oh, if only Universal didn't rush ETD....

I used to be apart of that flamewar, and I used to be on the originals side, but now I've come to my senses and stopped. I now wish that the war would just stop acting like whiny children and accept each other's opinion without feeling buthurt all the time, or at least handle things in a mature manner and not like whiny little children. Even though I still love the originals and hate the legend, I still think this flame war is ridicules.

Quote: spyrocynderfan7

10/10 across the board.

Who cares? As long as its fun that's all that matters!
Who gives a **** about the way it was written. It slaughters ANB and TEN.

DotD awesome game! That's my last word on the subject.

No offense, but that post sounded rather dumb. A game that's badly written cannot be enjoyable even if you force yourself to love it. So how can it be enjoyable in the first place?

If anyone wants to know why I don't like TLOS, read this review. It sums up all the reasons.

http://www.freewebs.com/vicieron/ranttime.htm < Srlsy, go to it before you go complaining to me.

I'm guessing no one is going to say, "lol be careful the TLOS fans might get buthurt" because TLOS fanbase is supported 100%, and it's the classic fans that get all the hate.

End of rant. I'm not talking about it anymore unless I read another bunch of dumb (no offense. I'm just really pissed off) comment.

Lol, that rant in the link was amusing.

^ I agree. xD

Geez.
Where did the huge argument towards TLoS fans come from, anyway?..

Well I've been w/ spyro since YotD was released, one word...boring.
YotD, spyro Fusion, and EtD ruined the series. AHT tried to bring it back, but never fully. LoS came out and I was like **** yes! A good game for once. Games fall out of style, and IMO the classics definitely have fallen out. The best one was AHT, but what massacred the series, for me anyway, was Spyro Fusion. I love crossover games and I was psyched about spyro orange and crash purple, until I bought the game. Then I was like holy ****! What did I just waste my money on! I bought a GBA for that sole reason, and I didn't get my money's worth until I bought pokemon sapphire.

And before you criticize me for damning an entire series just because of a single game, remember you opinions on Dawn of the Dragon and how that "ruined" The Legend of Spyro series for you all.

Fusion didn't kill the games. They were so easy, and it was bad, but ETD killed the classics, and they needed a change. It didn't have to be LoS, but eventually a change had to happen.

And I do kinda agree on that last paragraph. It isn't very fair to yell at someone for saying that YotD killed the Classics, when you yourselves have blamed DotD for killing all of LoS. It would be hypocritical.

And before anyone says I'm siding with LoS or anything, I'm not. I'm sitting on my fence, a fan of both equally, calling out bullcrap when I see it.

I'm just sick and tired of hearing people mock the games that I really like to play. I mean, c'mon!
And thank you CAV for understanding me. I appreciate that.

But, this! (and in no particular order)
1) Halo (It is NOT overrated. Reach was freaking awesome.)
2) Call of Duty: World at War (One of the only CoD games I like. I'd buy the game just because of the Russian campaign. Not a big one for Nazi zombies, and the American levels kinda sucked with the exception of Black Cats)
3) Medal of Honor (Rising Sun in particular but other 'classic' games.)
4) The Legend of Spyro (Especially Dawn of the Dragon. Christ I love that game, despite its flaws.)

And this is all really starting to **** me off. Know what I'm saying?

Heheh, that rant was awesome.

And as for all the rant and hate, man, I like videogames that the world hates - The ones that never get any praise, like Bubsy 3D. I don't get annoyed when people mock it and put it down. Sheesh, they have an opinion too, I don't like it, I just ignore it.

Back on topic, I'd like Amaze Entertainment too. If they could pull off a game like TEN GBA, I'd love to see what they could pull off on a major console!

I'm still supporting

-Shiny(MDK)
-BioWare/Interplay (MDK2)
-Rare(GoldenEye 007)
-Microsoft and/or Bungee (Halo (hey, a guy can dream can't he?))
-Nintendo--pending it is NOT solely for Wii and DS
-Treyarch(Spider-Man 2, Call of Duty: World at War (in co-op with ActiVision))

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I didn't find it fun after about 2 playthroughs...

*sighs* Sometimes even I wish TLoS wasn't made.

The majority of Classic fans wished TLoS wasn't made.

I' ll give it this: They introduced things that would make a nice addittion to Spyro along with aspects of the old, and brought in some traffic (alot of kids who scream at you if you say anything bad of LOS, but needed traffic all the same). I with LOS had ended differently, not just because I dislike DotD, but because I don't see amny things that can be done of ter ultimate evil, other than to ressurect that evil. But meh, goodness willing someone smart who cares about the games will be working on SK in a position that gives them power over what goes on.

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Quote: TheWereCat

Damn, I'm really scared about this now... At least we knew what to expect with ELB, but now it could be anyone or anything.

Am I the only one sensing that the new ETD is about to be made? Aw, crap. Please, no.

I loved ETD, so if SK turns out like it, I wouldn't mind it.

Same, it was my first Spyro game!

But I meant if it recieved the same 'praise' that ETD did... Then we're screwed. :S

Quote: Darby

Geez.
Where did the huge argument towards TLoS fans come from, anyway?..

Yeah that what's I was wondering... It's like the fandom in 2009 all over again.

Quote: CAV

Fusion didn't kill the games. They were so easy, and it was bad, but ETD killed the classics, and they needed a change. It didn't have to be LoS, but eventually a change had to happen.

And I do kinda agree on that last paragraph. It isn't very fair to yell at someone for saying that YotD killed the Classics, when you yourselves have blamed DotD for killing all of LoS. It would be hypocritical.

And before anyone says I'm siding with LoS or anything, I'm not. I'm sitting on my fence, a fan of both equally, calling out bullcrap when I see it.

I admit Spyro needed a change, but not that much of a change.

Quote: CAV

Fusion didn't kill the games. They were so easy, and it was bad, but ETD killed the classics, and they needed a change. It didn't have to be LoS, but eventually a change had to happen.

And I do kinda agree on that last paragraph. It isn't very fair to yell at someone for saying that YotD killed the Classics, when you yourselves have blamed DotD for killing all of LoS. It would be hypocritical.

And before anyone says I'm siding with LoS or anything, I'm not. I'm sitting on my fence, a fan of both equally, calling out bullcrap when I see it.

Fans of both should deserve a Spyro game that has both qualities from Classic and Legend, so one-side Classic fans and one-side LoS fans can enjoy it altogether.

Quote: Aura24

Quote: CAV

Fusion didn't kill the games. They were so easy, and it was bad, but ETD killed the classics, and they needed a change. It didn't have to be LoS, but eventually a change had to happen.

And I do kinda agree on that last paragraph. It isn't very fair to yell at someone for saying that YotD killed the Classics, when you yourselves have blamed DotD for killing all of LoS. It would be hypocritical.

And before anyone says I'm siding with LoS or anything, I'm not. I'm sitting on my fence, a fan of both equally, calling out bullcrap when I see it.

Fans of both should deserve a Spyro game that has both qualities from Classic and Legend, so one-side Classic fans and one-side LoS fans can enjoy it altogether.

I don't really know how the developers can do that really, but meh?

Quote: Aura24

Quote: CAV

Fusion didn't kill the games. They were so easy, and it was bad, but ETD killed the classics, and they needed a change. It didn't have to be LoS, but eventually a change had to happen.

And I do kinda agree on that last paragraph. It isn't very fair to yell at someone for saying that YotD killed the Classics, when you yourselves have blamed DotD for killing all of LoS. It would be hypocritical.

And before anyone says I'm siding with LoS or anything, I'm not. I'm sitting on my fence, a fan of both equally, calling out bullcrap when I see it.

Fans of both should deserve a Spyro game that has both qualities from Classic and Legend, so one-side Classic fans and one-side LoS fans can enjoy it altogether.

Agree. But good graphics plz!

Another thing I like about DotD, interactive cutscenes, just like Sonic Unleashed.

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Heheh, that rant was awesome.

And as for all the rant and hate, man, I like videogames that the world hates - The ones that never get any praise, like Bubsy 3D. I don't get annoyed when people mock it and put it down. Sheesh, they have an opinion too, I don't like it, I just ignore it.

Back on topic, I'd like Amaze Entertainment too. If they could pull off a game like TEN GBA, I'd love to see what they could pull off on a major console!

Agreed!
And, yes, I am a girl

It'd be easy.
Make Spyro confident, playful, compassionate and caring, and include platforming, flying, combat, scavenger hunting, a big evil main baddie and lots of side quests. Bring back the Guardians (LOS) the Elders (SL/AHT), Cynder, Ember, Flame, the Manweeresmalls, the Fauns, the Cheetahs , the fairies and the dragonflies. Have wide areas which are the main levels, and portals leading to 'lesser' levels where you can collect extra items if needs be.* Mix orchestration and a bit of choir with synthesizer music (listen to the AHT soundtrack to hear what I mean).

*Imagine Avalar. You can move on to Warfang from there without using a portal, but if you want to gether currency or other things to help you gain abilities or whatever you need to enter a portal. Once in a portal you are given a main task like in YotD, and once said task is done (ie.save so and so, kill this baddie, get this essential device working again) you earn something which is essential to the completion of the game (ie. a special gem needed to open a vortex so you can fight the main bad guy). Aside form the main task and collectable, you can also explore and find other things (ie.currency to buy upgrades, armor, gallery-unlocking thingies, etc.)

Anyone else like these ideas?

Sounds good to me! I hope we see improvement on SK.

Me too! I WANT A GAME TO LOVE AGAIN!

That is an awesome idea. <3

But the poor LoS fans. How would the fighting fit in there? I didn't like it much, anyway, but they deserve something.

Tone it down a bit but keep it. Don't swarm us every time we take a step, and let the enemies die after 3-5 hits. MAke it a bit more immersive than one button mashing. Keep the mashing yeah, but give us real moves, like you could crab an enemy swing him around and aim him before release for maximum damage. Yeah, you could knock a whole group of enemies off a cliff with one well placed toss! Also, would anyone else like some actual variation in melee according to element applied? Don't get me wrong the jump and spin moves were nice to look at with the pretty colors, but how about moves that are swifter and more eratic if you're using lightning, and moves that are slower and more destructive for earth? And finally, BRING BACK THE MAGIC ATTACKS AND FURIES FROM TEN!

Exactly!

I hated the combat moves in ANB and TEN, I didn't mind them so much in DOTD.

The combat on the WII version of dawn of the dragon could have been better I mean when ever i try to use a heavy attack wing sheild happens.

I knew the controls on how to use the combat, but I just thought "Meh, nothing fantastic, kind of boring"