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I can see where you are getting at Super, but I kinda like "new" Spyro's personality better. I'm also a fan of taking child icons and throwing them in a darker environment.

Having "classic" spyro in LoS' dark universe would be kinda awkward. "Classic" just seems to lighthearted for LoS' univese.

I don't, I think the personality is too bland, don't see what's so special about it, and really in the Classic series, you didn't really see much of a personality for him because there wasn't much of a storyline, so really they have randomly just given Spyro a personality, which in my case, doesn't suit him at all.

I personally would rather have the series end, it would stop me from moaning about it and thinking "Why? Does this have to happen to one of my favourite characters" but then again I can think "**** it, it's just a game"

Last time I checked, you were excited all about the LoS during 2007- 2008, Samuel. :3

Gimmie a break, that was when I first found out about it, of course I'd be excited, that was when I first found about TLOS thinking that it would be an awesome series, lol.

AHT and StD are my two fave classic.

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I don't, I think the personality is too bland, don't see what's so special about it, and really in the Classic series, you didn't really see much of a personality for him because there wasn't much of a storyline, so really they have randomly just given Spyro a personality, which in my case, doesn't suit him at all.

I personally would rather have the series end, it would stop me from moaning about it and thinking "Why? Does this have to happen to one of my favourite characters" but then again I can think "**** it, it's just a game"

Last time I checked, you were excited all about the LoS during 2007- 2008, Samuel. :3

Gimmie a break, that was when I first found out about it, of course I'd be excited, that was when I first found about TLOS thinking that it would be an awesome series, lol.

And you were a Classic and Legend Spyro fan back then. Ahhh, the memories of you being Samuel, always cheerful... :3

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AHT and StD are my two fave classic.

I feel that StD was done just right, I liked the fact that you had to find literally every collectible,
it just made it so fun and interesting, I loved all the random cutscenes that you got from each dragon, I always found that as a type of reward for finding them.

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Last time I checked, you were excited all about the LoS during 2007- 2008, Samuel. :3

Gimmie a break, that was when I first found out about it, of course I'd be excited, that was when I first found about TLOS thinking that it would be an awesome series, lol.

And you were a Classic and Legend Spyro fan back then. Ahhh, the memories of you being Samuel, always cheerful... :3

Yeah, it took me a little while to realise which was decent, and why would that make me a bad person in the first place?

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Gimmie a break, that was when I first found out about it, of course I'd be excited, that was when I first found about TLOS thinking that it would be an awesome series, lol.

And you were a Classic and Legend Spyro fan back then. Ahhh, the memories of you being Samuel, always cheerful... :3

Yeah, it took me a little while to realise which was decent, and why would that make me a bad person in the first place?

When you noticed the plotholes of DotD and all, that's when your personality had changed about the LoS series, not me.

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And you were a Classic and Legend Spyro fan back then. Ahhh, the memories of you being Samuel, always cheerful... :3

Yeah, it took me a little while to realise which was decent, and why would that make me a bad person in the first place?

When you noticed the plotholes of DotD and all, that's when your personality had changed about the LoS series, not me.

Personality? Okay?
Everyone changes.

Yeah, you were cheerful at first, but then after seeing plotholes of DotD, you turned into one of those Classic Spyro fans that complain about not having the kind of Spyro game they deserve to have.

And if Spyro's Kingdom is set in the LoS universe, no need to force yourself to play it.

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Yeah, you were cheerful at first, but then after seeing plotholes of DotD, you turned into one of those Classic Spyro fans that complain about not having the kind of Spyro game they deserve to have.

And if Spyro's Kingdom is set in the LoS universe, no need to force yourself to play it.

Of course I will complain, it does make me feel annoyed that I know I will never be able to play a new Classic Spyro game ever,
and to not have that feeling of interest anymore.

If Spyro's Kingdom is set in the LoS universe, I won't complain about that, I'll be interested in it, but if the gameplay still fails and is like the TLoS series, then I can't be bothered with it, unless they actually try and do something very different.

Ah...I have to agree with Aura, sorry Super.

But, and I'm throwing Cynder in the mix as well, she's getting the brunt of my wrath as well (Lol.) Why do you think SpyroxCynder is too rushed? Technically it was a little over three years they knew each other, and besides, Cynder might "love" Spyro for the sole reason that he saved her life instead of letting her die in ANB?

I doubt bad guys even if they have a change of heart would understand the emotion of "love" especially considering CYnder was Malefor's pawn for however long she was alive, and I highly doubt Malefor taught her about love from the other side of Convexity.

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Ah...I have to agree with Aura, sorry Super.

But, and I'm throwing Cynder in the mix as well, she's getting the brunt of my wrath as well (Lol.) Why do you think SpyroxCynder is too rushed? Technically it was a little over three years they knew each other, and besides, Cynder might "love" Spyro for the sole reason that he saved her life instead of letting her die in ANB?

I doubt bad guys even if they have a change of heart would understand the emotion of "love" especially considering CYnder was Malefor's pawn for however long she was alive, and I highly doubt Malefor taught her about love from the other side of Convexity.

.....Urgh, no comment, lol.

Off topic but...

You got Dark Side of the Moon? Sweet album huh?

The Wall's pretty awesome too (I like "The Wall" better to tell the truth.)

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Off topic but...

You got Dark Side of the Moon? Sweet album huh?

The Wall's pretty awesome too (I like "The Wall" better to tell the truth.)

Oh yes, when I was listening to it, I was like "Whoa, what is this?" but in a good way, lol.
It's fantastic, a little depressing at some parts, but all in all, very different, also I thought it was released in the mid 1980's,
I read the booklet and I was amazed to see that it come out in the early 1970's, I think they were ahead of their time.

1974 actually.

In 1979, The Wall, my fave PF album, was released. And in 1984, Pink Floyd: The Wall (the movie based on the album) was released.

Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care
Leave, don't leave me
Look around
Choose your own ground

Long you live and high you fly
The smiles you give the tears you cry
All you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be

Run, rabbit run
Dig that hole
Forget the sun
When at last, the work is done
Don't sit down its time to dig another one

Long you live and high you fly
But only if you ride the tide
Balanced on the biggest wave
Race towards an early grave

Breathe
Pink Floyd
The Dark Side of the Moon
1974

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1974 actually.

In 1979, The Wall, my fave PF album, was released. And in 1984, Pink Floyd: The Wall (the movie based on the album) was released.

Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care
Leave, don't leave me
Look around
Choose your own ground

Long you live and high you fly
The smiles you give the tears you cry
All you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be

Run, rabbit run
Dig that hole
Forget the sun
When at last, the work is done
Don't sit down its time to dig another one

Long you live and high you fly
But only if you ride the tide
Balanced on the biggest wave
Race towards an early grave

Breathe
Pink Floyd
The Dark Side of the Moon
1974

1974, still feels like early 70's to me, lol.
Also, the track 'Money' is my favourite, and 'Us and Them'.

My fave is Breathe, but this one is good too...

The lunatic, is on the grass
The lunatic is on the grass
Remembering games
And daisy chains and laughs
Got to keep the Loonies on the path

The Lunatic, is in the hall
The Lunatics, are in my hall
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day, the paperboy brings more

And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if their is no room upon the hill
...something something something...
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

An excerpt of brain damage.

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I admit AHT is my fave of "Classic" (I bought it at gamestp a couple of days ago, and its fun."

But othr than that, the classic were terrible, and I'm not trying to offend anybody. The only other okay classic is the first game. RR was okay, but not great. And YotD was a total massacre, all I liked of that one was the trick skating on the "Enchanted Towers" level. Spyro fusion? Though I like crossover games, that was more minigame than storyline.

Whilst I do appreciate your opinion (as there are others out there who I'm sure agree with you), you have to realise that it really is just your opinion - The classic games received the highest rating in all of the Spyro games, as well as the highest sales.

So whilst some people may want LoS to continue through their own preference, they should also realise how much more popular the classics are overall.

I don't mind which series this new game is set in anymore - All I am tired of is people acting as though the Legend series was a huge hit. Which it was not.

It all depends on Activision's views of Spyro's sales in the Classic and Legend series.

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It all depends on Activision's views of Spyro's sales in the Classic and Legend series.

If anything, it all depends on which game Activision believe they can get more money out of.

That can mean Classic or Legend. If they think they can do a good enough job creating a newer Classic game, they'll do that. If they believe it's too much effort, they'll stick to the Legend series, which are arguably easier to create noawadays.

I honestly don't mind which place it is set in, but if the gameplay is anything like I've seen from TLoS, then I won't be interested.

Or ActiVision might go so far as to reboot the series...AGAIN

^This. Fun, good characters and at least a near plothole free story is all I really care about.

Aura, What was the point of saying how Super's opinion of LOS changed? Alot of people changed thier opinions of LOS because they didn't like DotD, and also everyone expresses things they dislike about something. You seem to like to rant at people who dislike LOS and like to talk about dislikes, but be honest, would you really hold your toung if SK turns out to ruin what you once liked? Would you really continue to be a fan of all Spyro if it's another reboot and it reintroduces a character you once loved in a way you can't stand? I'm guessing not.

@spyrocynderfan7: That to me doesn't sound like a good reason to be in love IMO. Also, they didn't really know eachother for any good amount of time. They were enemies in ANB and Cynder was probably withdrawn in the week separating ANB and TEN, then she ran off in TEN. They were trapped for three years unconcious in a crystal, and during DotD they never said anything that was meaningful, just stuff you would expect people with any soul or decency to say; they never even acted like friends, laughing and playing.

^as if I didn't know. It was a crack joke.

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^This. Fun, good characters and at least a near plothole free story is all I really care about.

Aura, What was the point of saying how Super's opinion of LOS changed? Alot of people changed thier opinions of LOS because they didn't like DotD, and also everyone expresses things they dislike about something. You seem to like to rant at people who dislike LOS and like to talk about dislikes, but be honest, would you really hold your toung if SK turns out to ruin what you once liked? Would you really continue to be a fan of all Spyro if it's another reboot and it reintroduces a character you once loved in a way you can't stand? I'm guessing not.

I would, mainly because I'm a dragon lover and a Spyro fan, and I'm not stuck-up on just one thing like some fans out there.

A dragon lover is one thing, Spyro fan is another. But I digress.

Like some others, I want to see some fun injected into this game. It doesn't have to be like AHT or anything, but for crying out loud, I'd like to see Spyro & Cynder (if she returns) laugh joyously at something.

Since Spyro's Kingdom is an AAA title, it will most likely have the following:

- High-quality
- Broad market
- High sales
- Large teams
- Big budget
- Polished audio-visual direction
- Perfect technical and artistic execution
- Playable & fully enjoyable within the first five minutes of play
- Exhaustively tested
- Bug free
- Great usability
- Continous, balanced entertainment from beginning to end
- Great graphical user interface
- First place in the markets, and great marketing
- Hype

Hopefully, at least... I can't see why Activision would label it as a AAA title unless their gonna put lots of effort into it...

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It's 2 months away from the release of COD, Activision will do anything to keep any game separate from COD, even if Spyro isn't a big competitor...

No they won't. They'll just hype CoD and completely forget Spyro.

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Which sold well AHT DotD or both?

Also, Spyro isn't Medal of Honor or Rising Sun.

I've said it a thousand times before, I understand the need for change, change is good, but it's so stupid to eliminate what made a game good/ popular and thereby alienate so many fans! Make deeper characters and a deeper darker story that's fine. Add in some more combat as well, that's okay too. But DON'T destroy the character's personality all together and DON'T eliminate all the elements that were present from day one ie. platforming, free roam, and scavenger hunting. They should have built off of what was existing, either to make a continuing game or make a sort of prelude/back story for Spyro. I don't say that simply becasue I am a classics fan. What I just said seems like a genuinely smarter idea IMO.

I have no idea what to say about this one. I partly agree, and at the same time I don't. All I can say is that what's done is done. Spyro didn't really need a reboot THAT badly, but eventually it would have to happen. The franchise that needed a reboot (not surprisingly) was Sonic.

Acti is getting sued for copyright infringement.

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The franchise that needed a reboot (not surprisingly) was Sonic.

Sonic 06 was a reboot.....yyyyeeeaaahhh.....
I like how they decided to not continue it!

But anyway, I noticed that people were saying how DotD got bad sales....which isn't suprising(this coming from someone who loves the game). I mean, just look at the long list of awesome/popular titles that came out near DotD's release....even I'm guilty I've buying Sonic Unleashed and LittleBigPlanet instead of DotD that year!

Also, the Classics sold so well simply because it was one of the few easily accessible games on the market at the time, not to mention that there weren't many mature games at the time. If the Classic Spyro games started in 2006 rather than 1998, along with great graphics, they would of sold worse than LoS....This coming from someone who loves the game to bits...

Concerning CoD

Classics mostly got good sales due to critical praise.

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Acti is getting sued for copyright infringement.

Payback's a *****.

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The franchise that needed a reboot (not surprisingly) was Sonic.

Sonic 06 was a reboot.....yyyyeeeaaahhh.....

He needs another reboot.

I don't think Sonic needs a reboot. The Unleashed day stages formula is awesome, and they improved it in Colours. I think they should stick with it.
Also, we have Sonic 4.

I count Colors as a reboot, seeing how the voice actors changed and all.

I don't, as the tone of the story is very similar to Unleashed....even the general theme is. Just listen to Endless Possibilities and then Reach For The Stars. They have similar lyrics. Same can be said for Dear My Friend and Speak With Your Heart.

Also, Spyro 2 changed Spyro's voice actor, and I know that's not a reboot!
...Or, it is a reboot, and I was just clueless....

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Since Spyro's Kingdom is an AAA title, it will most likely have the following:

- High-quality
- Broad market
- High sales
- Large teams
- Big budget
- Polished audio-visual direction
- Perfect technical and artistic execution
- Playable & fully enjoyable within the first five minutes of play
- Exhaustively tested
- Bug free
- Great usability
- Continous, balanced entertainment from beginning to end
- Great graphical user interface
- First place in the markets, and great marketing
- Hype

The bolded items are up to the idevidual critic/gamer, but I hope you're right all the same.
It's funny, that was kinda unexpected given how much you seem to loathe Activision.

About liking something for the dragons or Spyro... That says to me that you like dragons and Spyro (though the personalities are not the same) rather than the actual game.

What copyright did they infringe?

I have to correct you on the "Fully Enjoyable from the start" point, Aura. NO game can be fully enjoyable from the start.

....And does it matter WHY she likes Spyro?

Acti's getting sued because of one of ther CoD games, either MW2 or BO, it was on wikipedia

People can like Spyro for their own reasons. It's not for anyone to critisize..

What Aura said makes me really hopeful for this game..

What is "AAA Title"??

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Acti's getting sued because of one of ther CoD games, either MW2 or BO, it was on wikipedia

Wikipedia isn't always reliable. Why would they get sued?

A title that has high budget, big ad campaigns, is part of a well-known franchise, etc.
Examples: CoD, Mario, Final Fantasy

It means the game is recieving special treatment, all the care given to a top seller. I expect SK is getting such treatment as this is no doubt thier last ditch effort to make some monay from this game.

Copyright infringement. A friend thinks that because BOs storyline closely resembles one for the movie "Fight Club" (don't see it, except that one of the caharcters in the movie isn't real, like Reznov in BO) that director is suing them.

^As said above.
And them trying to make money from this game isn't neccassarily a bad thing. Don't you want to make money from your product?
That may mean they'll make this what the fans want, so they'll reccommend it to others, so they'll rack in the money, and we'll want more. Basically, there'd be something in it for both of this. Maybe they'll actually make it worth it. I'm just trying to stay positive until i have a reason to believe otherwise.

I'm staying positive too, despite all the things some fans keep saying about Activision. I just wish they'd release a trailer.

God I hope cynder is in this one and that Spyro and Cynder freaking kiss at least.

I hope there isn't too much fanservice (ie. too much focus on Cynder and SxC) Speaking of too much focus on Cynder, who else what to learn more about the other characters?

Same.

I'd love to hear a backstory on the guardians in particular!

Woo there
Haha
I mean, a lot of people dislike the pairing, and a lot like the pairing. So I think they should be careful there. When a couple becomes official, like in the game, I think it causes a bunch of arguments.. Not that there aren't already..
But ehh. I really don't know. I like the couple, personally, but I hate the arguments that follow.