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New Spyro game? [CLOSED]
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#1501 Posted: 21:32:55 25/11/2010
Quote: Razz
Literally the only reason I played LoS at all is because I was an old school Spyro fan to begin with and I was curious. I don't understand how anyone outside of Spyro fandom who wasn't paid to play it ever did. As a nice touch, Mike Graham (or maybe Chris Wilson; I get them mixed up) said himself in an interview that the LoS team could care less about their older fans and that they were aiming for a new audience. It was a nice spit in the face to the people who actually liked Spyro and I think there's more than one reason why LoS was a financial failure.

I really hope Activision is learning something from the success of games like New Super Mario Bros. Wii. If you're going to keep a franchise going, you need to aim for the old fans to start. New players will come in through word of mouth if you deliver a good gaming experience that is familiar to older players (or you must innovate in such a way that your new game is really new and also good, which is much harder to pull off).


Seriously?! He didn't use those words exactly did he? Do you have a link to the quote?
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#1502 Posted: 21:34:18 25/11/2010
Quote: Razz
Cynder was tolerable when she was an anti-hero. I really hate her now that she's a princess/token girlfriend.

I'd be happy with a return to creativity for the new game. Ditch this paint-by-numbers epic story crap and have something interesting. And I want to see some more old characters come back (especially the girls). But, honestly, I have no hopes for this game. It's going to have to prove itself before I shell out $60.



What do you mean by Anti hero?
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#1503 Posted: 21:39:19 25/11/2010
Quote: Razz
Yeah, I've heard the only fandom worse than Spyro is Sonic. smilie


I hear Warriors is just aweful!
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minredd Blue Sparx Gems: 698
#1504 Posted: 21:42:20 25/11/2010
Warriors? We're not too bad. The Warriortards who are 8 years old are.

Worst fanbase award though, that's definitely taken by Twilight.
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#1505 Posted: 21:43:56 25/11/2010
^Agreed, minredd!
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#1506 Posted: 21:48:42 25/11/2010
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Seriously?! He didn't use those words exactly did he? Do you have a link to the quote?


He didn't use those words exactly, I don't think, but it was something along those lines. I've been digging around, but I can't find any of those old interviews. It was either Mike Graham or Chris Wilson who said it while talking about the upcoming DotD, if memory serves.

An anti-hero is a character who either is or was a villain but isn't entirely evil (or may have good reasons for being evil). Darth Vader at the end of "Return of the Jedi" is a good example.
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#1507 Posted: 21:51:41 25/11/2010
Ah, okay I thought it meant something like that but I wasn't really sure. thanks for informing me!
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#1508 Posted: 22:57:04 25/11/2010
I'm pretty sure that's an anti-villain, not anti-hero. Anti-heroes are the ones who technically do good, but are morally ambiguous about it.
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Eh.
BlackNight12 Gold Sparx Gems: 2343
#1509 Posted: 23:06:13 25/11/2010
You sure there, Burning Gnorc? because the names sound like they would go the other way around.
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#1510 Posted: 23:32:37 25/11/2010
Soo does that mean your for or against the idea of a split, in which both ember and cynder are included and both vie for spyro's companionship? I mean ya all want similar things kinda, and oh with wii and DS games its less money, like 30-45$
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#1511 Posted: 23:38:05 25/11/2010
what? what are you talking about, spyropurple?
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#1512 Posted: 23:54:32 25/11/2010
ppl say about the classic being best, and at other times say the same about the LOS series, well i heard about it being LOS but still having ember and flame return. Well if so how do you guys see that? I mean do you think it'd make a better game? Just out of curiousity. Cause i honestly feel that way. It wasn't off og yur topic but just as a general statment, my bad blacknight.
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#1513 Posted: 23:57:29 25/11/2010
Oh, I see! confused me there for a second. Anyway, well sure, I mean if they add them in it again I would like to see them come back I guess. though there are some other old spyro characters I would like to see more.
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#1514 Posted: 23:57:55 25/11/2010
Well for me DOTD was way too short i beat it in 1 day which was 4 hours of gameplay and thats pretty bad since im a racing gamer and rarely play any other sort of game type really. Yes longer would be better and yes more fun but also free roam is a must there were alot of levels in DOTD that made me wonder, what was out there beyond the point A to point B missions. Spyro and cynder dating thing i dont mind it because its a game really, as long as what people have said gameplay is good meh its not a huge issue really now if it was a movie then i could see that being a issue.
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#1515 Posted: 00:01:13 26/11/2010
Sorry that I'm going a little off topic here, but some parts of the Warriors fandom are awful (I am a Warriors fan). I had someone say something very unpleasent to me because I said I didn't like Hawkfrost. Back on topic, it would be nice to see the return of the old female characters (as long as they aren't stuck in randomly and have a good, logical part in the story).
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#1516 Posted: 00:04:09 26/11/2010
Like Elora and Bianca? smilie
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#1517 Posted: 00:55:24 26/11/2010
Quote: BlackNight12
Like Elora and Bianca? smilie


^I'd love to see Elora and Bianca come back
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#1518 Posted: 01:53:29 26/11/2010
Quote: BlackNight12
You sure there, Burning Gnorc? because the names sound like they would go the other way around.


Burning Gnorc is right; an antihero is a protagonist, not an antagonist. It confused me the first time I heard about it too.
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#1519 Posted: 03:04:02 26/11/2010
Thank god someones said it, when i played AHT for the first time a month ago i finished with merely this to say...

1) Why on earth were ember and flame downplayed soo much?

2) Wait? I saw hunter, sgt bird, sparx, even a new guy blink, but they cut out bianca, why in the world would they purposly ditch the one character.
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#1520 Posted: 03:11:28 26/11/2010
Let's not turn this into another topic about Original vs TLoS.
BlackNight12 Gold Sparx Gems: 2343
#1521 Posted: 04:13:19 26/11/2010
^Don't worry no one's turning this into an Original vs Tlos topic. We were just making some suggestions on what or who they should add in the next game. unless you mean't something else but I don't notice anything pointing to that.
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#1522 Posted: 04:46:06 26/11/2010
Quote: SpyroPurple
Thank god someones said it, when i played AHT for the first time a month ago i finished with merely this to say...

1) Why on earth were ember and flame downplayed soo much?

2) Wait? I saw hunter, sgt bird, sparx, even a new guy blink, but they cut out bianca, why in the world would they purposly ditch the one character.


Ranting much, SpyroPurple? Don't go start ranting about AHT, it's very off-topic.
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#1523 Posted: 08:54:28 26/11/2010
oh, my bad Aura24. I do that sometimes, and im still a bit nervous about what i post as im new.
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7105
#1524 Posted: 09:14:23 26/11/2010
Yeah, Burning Gnorc is right about the anti-hero thing. They are heroes, but will do anything to get the job done.
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DarkCynder_543 Platinum Sparx Gems: 5210
#1525 Posted: 10:00:29 26/11/2010
I'm sure an anti-hero means that the character is a hero, but doesn't share the quatlities of a hero. While most heroes would give up their life to save something, an anti-hero wouldn't even think to do such a thing. They're also somewhat selfish, and sometimes only be heroic for the reward they get. Conker from Conker's Bad Fur Day is a good example of an anti-hero. He only helps people so he can get the money, and he even kills innocent creatures, such as crushing the baby dinosaur.

Sometimes I feel that original Spyro is a bit of an anti-hero. He doesn't like saving the world, and he certainty wouldn't risk his life to save his friends. He only saves the world multiple times because he has too. If he wasn't forced, then he would gladly sit back and let someone else do it, unless it involves kicking butt. He showed attitude of not wanting to save the dragon kingdom in ETD, at the end of the beginning cut scene
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#1526 Posted: 10:06:01 26/11/2010
That's kind of what I mean, they will do anything as long as they don't get hurt. Shadow is an anti-hero but developed somewhat past that.
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#1527 Posted: 14:29:21 26/11/2010
If the new game is a 180 degree turnaround from DotD, I'll be very happy! <.<;
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#1528 Posted: 17:16:40 26/11/2010
@ Spyro purple, I'd very much like a blend of old and new, but with more than just Ember and Flame. I'd want all the old characters prefferably as they were, but with some small alterations if necessary, and keep the Guardians and other new characters including Cynder if they fix her. I'd also like to keep the combat but a little less and add more platforming/scavenger hunting. More comedy, with a touch of seriousness where it's really needed. Some kind of use for Sparx, not necessarily as a health meter but more than comic relief. NO fight for Spyro's love; no Spyro x someone pairings at all actually. Portals, more collectables, a good story, well developed plot and characters. More mini games and side quests, with varying tones to them (some just fun/silly ie. racing, some serious and condusive to some part of the plot; ie. clearing debris around a destroyed village so help can get through.)

I might add more later.
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#1529 Posted: 17:53:41 26/11/2010
I just want mah portals back. *sniff*

And girls. Come on people, it's the 21 century and girls take account for around 40-50 percent of gamers. Yet I think it was less than 10% of the games star a strong female role. (by this I mean NOT a 'working girl')
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#1530 Posted: 17:56:23 26/11/2010
Want strong female characters?
Play Final Fantasy XIII.smilie
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#1531 Posted: 19:35:58 26/11/2010
I thought of something. What if Spyro's kingdom is actually a re-mastered collection of the first three games? unlikly, maybe... but think about it Spyro's 'kingdom'. Perhaps it could mean something like collection, hm? what do you think?


This was just another thought I decided to throw out there.
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#1532 Posted: 19:41:57 26/11/2010
If that turned out to be true, my dreams have come true too smilie
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#1533 Posted: 19:42:03 26/11/2010
Yeeeaaaaaa......I doubt it, and I honestly hope it isn't. I want them to move the series forward, not re-hash the old ones. I wouldn't mind if there was a steady flow of games already, but it's been two years since we got a new game. And that's what I want. A NEW Spyro game.
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#1534 Posted: 19:46:29 26/11/2010
Quote: sonicbrawler182
Want strong female characters?
Play Final Fantasy XIII.smilie


I did, didn't like it. Another example of why graphics don't make a game. Story was okay, so was gameplay. But no towns, no world map, can't talk to people, and not to mention the horribly linear levels.
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#1535 Posted: 20:09:47 26/11/2010
What is the problem with linearity? And in Chapter 11, the game becomes really open.
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#1536 Posted: 20:24:13 26/11/2010
I'd like it if the original three Spyro games were remade again and put into a collection, but not remade exactly the same, maybe they could change the designs of the levels slightly, and maybe make the levels longer, and add extra challenges, characters and stuff.
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#1537 Posted: 20:31:11 26/11/2010
You know what I would like even more? if they also did ETD and AHT in it too. I would love it if they re-mastered ETD and finished it. smilie
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#1538 Posted: 20:32:54 26/11/2010
Quote: BlackNight12
You know what I would like even more? if they also did ETD and AHT in it too. I would love it if they re-mastered ETD and finished it. smilie



ETD makes me want hot dogs.
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#1539 Posted: 20:35:47 26/11/2010
Lol, why? smilie
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#1540 Posted: 20:37:20 26/11/2010
The tiki guys have them on their sticks. Hot steamy dogs....

On topic I hope the new game continues with the LOS chars, but adds some oldies in too, I want to see Elora again.
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#1541 Posted: 20:44:06 26/11/2010
yea, I want them to add some old characters and fix some of the new ones too. you know if they are going to keep with Tlos.
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#1542 Posted: 20:46:03 26/11/2010
I would like a game with more similarities to the oldies, not just a remake of the first three.
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#1543 Posted: 20:49:46 26/11/2010
^ I agree, I was just giving another idea. we waited two years I want something really good from Spyro and he needs it too.
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#1544 Posted: 20:53:20 26/11/2010
Yes and yes.
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#1545 Posted: 20:53:22 26/11/2010
If Activision is hiding Spyro's Kingdom like treasure, then they're bound to show us something unexpected of some sort.
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#1546 Posted: 20:55:40 26/11/2010
Yea, I wonder what it could be. there has to be something good!
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#1547 Posted: 21:00:18 26/11/2010
It's getting to the point where all I want is fun, new, and interesting that doesn't spark huge fights and debates; I almost don't care what universe it's set in.
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#1548 Posted: 21:06:26 26/11/2010
smilie Really?
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#1549 Posted: 21:08:44 26/11/2010
Well, there will always be fights. It takes two to tangle.

I really want them to expand on LoS. That's what I would like most. I only recently got back into Spyro, and I like where this new series is going.
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#1550 Posted: 21:18:35 26/11/2010
Well, there would be less fights sure enough if there was less to argue about.

Oh, and i'm surprised at what NEW_spyroLUVA just said! smilie
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