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I just took one look at that... Dust cloud?

Also Light base, and then when you see the light base, there's some really odd borders. Nice choice of pose, I guess.

i mean, it's the best i could do in firealpaca

also lmao, people are getting hype for a fake figure

well the waiting for E3 is killing us so we get hype from anything that might look like a new skylander.

It tricked me for one split second and that's more than any other fake figure in the past has ever done.
Consider it a small success.

Don't know which Element could suit him the most, probably Air because of the speed (which is also why I think Light wasn't that bad of a choice) or... Earth because... Bash...?

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It tricked me for one split second and that's more than any other fake figure in the past has ever done.
Consider it a small success.

Don't know which Element could suit him the most, probably Air because of the speed (which is also why I think Light wasn't that bad of a choice) or... Earth because... Bash...?

i picked light cuz sonic can go at the speed of light, or sound, whatever

also air brawler was taken by air strike, so there

Woah I'm the only one who didn't thought it was real when I saw it?

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Woah I'm the only one who didn't thought it was real when I saw it?

it is intentionally fake after all, so yeah

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For the time of E3, here's a Skylanders Sonic



dammit, now i want a skylanders sonic

Same i want a Skylanders Sora, but that's hopeless, also nice edit.

I'm bored and waiting for E3 I made this

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For the time of E3, here's a Skylanders Sonic



dammit, now i want a skylanders sonic

This is so cool dude...I have always wanted him to be in skylanders , but as an air brawler.

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i picked light cuz sonic can go at the speed of light, or sound, whatever

also air brawler was taken by air strike, so there

Sonic fits more of an air brawler than that mustached monkey thing. In fact, Sonic is the air brawler of his games.
Also how is Crash even considered a teacher/sensei?

Nice mock-up pic, though.

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I'm bored and waiting for E3 I made this

Lmao I can't see it

I'll be honest i would like to see another guest star, but it's unlikely to happen.

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I'll be honest i would like to see another guest star, but it's unlikely to happen.

As long as it's not console exclusive Im okay with it

My most wanted characters/figures now are:

Kaossandra
Dreamcatcher
Broccoli Guy
Glumshanks
Bad Breath
Luminous
Nightshade
Sheep Creep

Around here Imaginators seem to still do very well. EB/Gamestops around me even say although the smaller stores don't have room for them since POPs are their main thing, they admit they sell fast when they get them. No character other than maybe Tri-tip and Adventure Packs are easy to find.

I just want more content, don't need new figures, there are already hundreds of them.
- Unreall

Even though I don't own a PS4, I will be watching the Sony Press Conference, just for the chance that skylanders might be there

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I just want more content, don't need new figures, there are already hundreds of them.
- Unreall

Agree.

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I just want more content, don't need new figures, there are already hundreds of them.
- Unreall

Agree.

Right, from your standpoint as a consumer, this is clearly the best option. But as producers, they're in the business to make money... and they still make more money on the figures than they do the games, so it's in their best interest to come up with another new gimmick to force you to buy all-new characters if you want to experience the full game.

I don't think a new "gimmick" is what is needed, I'm rather thinking about more levels and game styles/mechanics (battle arenas, challenges, PvP, etc.) to make the game more complete and assorted. Compared to the rest of franchise, Imaginators is the simpler and more straighftorward game of all, by an important margin, IMO.

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I don't think a new "gimmick" is what is needed, I'm rather thinking about more levels and game styles/mechanics (battle arenas, challenges, PvP, etc.) to make the game more complete and assorted. Compared to the rest of franchise, Imaginators is the simpler and more straighftorward game of all, by an important margin, IMO.

Again, you're thinking from the standpoint of what you want, not what's going to make them the most money.

Locking content behind new gimmicks = $$$.

It's also the basis of what's killing the Toys to Life genre, but making sustainable money over time is less important to most businesses than making a ton of money "rite nao."


Also, LOL PVP. It never makes money for games that aren't designed to be competitive from the ground up.

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I don't think a new "gimmick" is what is needed, I'm rather thinking about more levels and game styles/mechanics (battle arenas, challenges, PvP, etc.) to make the game more complete and assorted. Compared to the rest of franchise, Imaginators is the simpler and more straighftorward game of all, by an important margin, IMO.

Again, you're thinking from the standpoint of what you want, not what's going to make them the most money.

Locking content behind new gimmicks = $$$.

It's also the basis of what's killing the Toys to Life genre, but making sustainable money over time is less important to most businesses than making a ton of money "rite nao."


Also, LOL PVP. It never makes money for games that aren't designed to be competitive from the ground up.

It's not black or white. As you said, doing this is also killing the franchise. It'll be better if you make toys to sell them "friendly", like in Giants. "We give you a type of toy with the game that is usefull to unlock new in-game areas and new mechanics, but if you want more, here, new characters for you to buy and play for fun". So you need a solid game with a gimmick that encourages the client to buy the product rather than obligue him/her. But if you do the things like in Trap Team, which is an agressive business strategy, people is going to get disappointed and eventualy leave the product.

So I disagree, tons of new gimmicks aren't the only thing you need to make money. If the "moneymaker" aspect stands out over the quality of the product all the time, you maybe get what you get at first try, but at second try you're going to get disappointed, and at third try people'll just give a **** about you because you are the first greedy monster who gives a **** about people that are buying your product. And that's exactly what happened.

That's why, at this stage, you need to improve in-game content apart from producing new toys/gimmicks if you want to increase the income.

P.S: PvP was just and example, relax.

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I just want more content, don't need new figures, there are already hundreds of them.

Except that the new content will come included in the new Sensei bases. They could add more Imaginator parts through a patch, there's that.

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That's why, at this stage, you need to improve in-game content apart from producing new toys/gimmicks if you want to increase the income.

Or instead, ignore what they've milked to death and spend the money on "the next big thing."

That's Activision's modus operandi. Drive a franchise into the ground, drop it entirely, and then **** out a horrible mess of unspeakably poor quality sequel/reboot and then blame the franchise for the poor sales rather than the (lack of) quality of the game. (The Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero reboots from the last couple years say hello from the toxic waste vats that spawned them.)

Yes... sad but true.

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I just want more content, don't need new figures, there are already hundreds of them.
- Unreall

Agree.

Right, from your standpoint as a consumer, this is clearly the best option. But as producers, they're in the business to make money... and they still make more money on the figures than they do the games, so it's in their best interest to come up with another new gimmick to force you to buy all-new characters if you want to experience the full game.

You have me slightly misunderstood. You aren't wrong, first and foremost, but I'm just saying that all the comments and excitement over possible new figures, but if this is just new figures to play the CURRENT Imaginators with? I'm not interested. Hell, if they try more of the Row Bow or Wildstorm crap, I'm not interested. The buisness model is already too expensive to maintain, especially in the current climate...paying $30 for ONE BLOODY LEVEL of content? Its not enough for me to care. I'm not even on the look out for LIM because the idea of dropping 30 for it does not entice me.

While this is Activision so we can predict what will happen (just bleed the current format till dry, wait for it to re hydrate, bleed again), content can EASILY net them substantial chunks of money. No it won't ever approach what it did in the Trap Team days, but that doesn't mean they can't still make money hands over fist. Why did SuperChargers not live as long as it could have? Because of content. People such as myself, completionist, didn't even force ourselves to get everything last time, I definitely didn't this time. If they just want to pump out toys, release posable figures and link them to the TV show like everyone else. In a couple years do a video game based on the TV show.

If they want Skylanders to succeed - financially, they have to earn back consumer trust that's been lost with the money grabs and to some of us, poor content. I'm "tired" of spending $15 for a figure that I won't play on the next game, or a gimmick that won't transfer. It's why re-release could be so good if done right. Even beyond that, something like Imaginators was GREAT, very little in the way of flaws, but its missing expandable content. I'm not asking to go full on Disney Infinity, but even something as simple as Diablo-esque - randomized "dungeons", what the Brain missions SHOULD BE - would go a long ways towards a reason to keep playing.

There is this assumption that polishing current content or creating expandable content would be this massive undertaking, when its not. Pieces can be stolen from other places. the same way level packs from the first game worked on the next two games. The same way figures are transported from one game to the next, why not do that with some of the bad guys...why not mix in some of the old levels with the new in a Remix mode...I'd love to fight the rapping driller again.

Make my money worth something and I'll care more.
- Unreall

Starlink just got announced as a TTL game that uses digital pieces as well as physical. Hm... If Skylanders survives the next few years, wonder if this game's performance would change Acti's mind about their figures distrubution... Because Lightseekers came out and no one cared(it's just Runescape with none of the plot, I guess) even if it also uses the same system while the figures aren't out.

I was about to tell everyone about that Bifrost : P

Cool story bro. I'm not into space games, but it'll be interesting to see how they can work with spaceship figures. Those do sell, but usually with franchises like Star Wars and Star Trek.

Guys Eric hirshberg was talking about Skylanders. And they're still continuing the franchise https://twitter.com/jasoninqui...387040619593729

Well then... Still want them to actually reveal stuff but that's kinda reassuring.

Gosh... that sounds that they'll keep the merchandise and IP, but nothing more beyond that. You know, the TV series, books, etc., but nothing more. They'll just milk the few they can from the cow as long as they can, and that's all.

I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like a formal answer for me.

Well, that's relieving.
Could just be talking about Academy and the mobile game, but at least it shows they still care.

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Guys Eric hirshberg was talking about Skylanders. And they're still continuing the franchise https://twitter.com/jasoninqui...387040619593729

The "in different ways, obviously..." after talking about Skylanders development is not super reassuring.

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Guys Eric hirshberg was talking about Skylanders. And they're still continuing the franchise https://twitter.com/jasoninqui...387040619593729

THANK GOD

That sounds like every marketing speak for "we might cancel the franchise at a whim but you don't get to know that". This info adds nothing whatsoever.

edit: that post went all over the place, let me rephrase that. Developers will say they're working on stuff even if it gets cancelled. We really won't know until leaks and rumors start dropping in bigger numbers. Just like Scalebound getting cancelled not too long after they reassured it was still being worked on - it's like schrodinger's videogame.

Well I guess we kinda find out tomorrow...

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Guys Eric hirshberg was talking about Skylanders. And they're still continuing the franchise https://twitter.com/jasoninqui...387040619593729

The "in different ways, obviously..." after talking about Skylanders development is not super reassuring.

different ways, huh?

sounds like academy only.

And the mobile game, and the book. Maybe some toys, stickers and plushes. But that'll be all. The more I think about it the more I think that statement is more painful than relieving.

Welp, I'm probably gonna be logging out for the night in a minute, and I won't be back on until about 4:00 PM tomorrow, EST. So I'll have missed it all. I hope that whatever the outcome, we can all reach out answer, draw our own conclusions, and either celebrate or move on. We'll have to see.

In one way I think we'll see something because of the "leaks," but at the same time I'm pretty sure we'll see nothing at all. I guess time will tell.

Goodnight, you guys. Hope it all works out tomorrow.

Goodnight to you.
Let's hope we'll all wake up with something to look for, tomorrow.

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Goodnight to you.
Let's hope we'll all wake up with something to look for, tomorrow.

Amen, brother.

Fingers crossed

25 minutes, then the conference

*Heart Beats really loudly*

well, hey, at least they put the holy game on PS4.

Welp, I guess no Skylanders at Sony

I guess Zap was right

Why would Skylanders be at the conference? If there was a PlayStation guest star then ok yeah but still

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Why would Skylanders be at the conference? If there was a PlayStation guest star then ok yeah but still

Just give up. They won't announce this Year 2 anymore.
It was all big fake (a very good one, with actual modding?) created by somebody.
Oh, if they're going to announced it later or tomorrow, well, good then but it's unlikely at this point

I wouldn't go that far yet. I honestly was (and still am) pretty sure they'd announce it tomorrow TBH. If it isn't tomorrow though, that's bad news for sure.

it's over, you guys.


we're dead.

Yeah, still one day left of E3 before I completely give up hope for the series... At least in terms of games and content.