If Activision (or whoever's in charge) decide to retire some figures, who would it likely be? By retirement I mean no new reposes and no longer playable in future games.
Never had a repose and never available in singles
Ghost Roaster
Sunburn
I think both of these would be up for retirement
SA's that never had a repose
Boomer
Voodood
Dino Rang
All 3 seems like candidates, although I'd hate to see Dino go.
SA's that got a repose, but no S3
Bash (I hope he's not done)
Double Trouble (seems replace by dunebug)
Drill Sergeant (seems replaced by countdown/wind up)
Drobot (please no)
Flameslinger (please no)
Hex
Lightning Rod
Ignitor
Slam Bam
Sonic Boom
Stump Smash (seems replaced by Tree Rex)
Wrecking Ball (seems replaced by Pop Thorn)
Zap
Zook (seems replaced by bumble blast)
Giant cores that didn't get an S2
Shroom Boom
Fright Rider
None of the actual Giants got reposes, but it seems unlikely they'd retire them so early since they were the primary selling point for the game a generation ago.
Also, if they retired, I would think they'd retire figures from each element equally. So, my guesses are as follows:
Round 1:
Air - Lightning Rod
Earth - Dino Rang
Fire - Sunburn
Life - Stump Smash
Magic - Voodood
Tech - Boomer
Undead - Ghost Roaster
Water - Slam Bam
Round 2:
Air - Sonic Boom
Earth - Bash
Fire - Ignitor
Life - Zook
Magic - Double Trouble
Tech - Drill Sergeant
Undead - Fright Rider
Water - Zap
Round 3 (can't see this happening)
Air - Warnado
Earth - Slobber Tooth
Fire - Flameslinger
Life - Shroom Boom
Magic - Wrecking Ball
Tech - Dobot
Undead - Hex
Water - Wham Shell
Edit: fixed spelling
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#1 Posted: 13:25:26 02/02/2014 | Topic Creator
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#2 Posted: 14:32:49 02/02/2014
Zap seems to be replaced by Punk Shock
Ignitor seems to be replaced by Blast Zone
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#3 Posted: 16:01:01 02/02/2014
Hot Dog seems to replace Wrecking Ball.
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#4 Posted: 17:19:29 02/02/2014
I don't see this actually happening, ever. I'm sure it's possible, but probably not probable. I think that choosing to make any amount of figures, or characters in general, unplayable would complete put off the fanbase. If not in its entirety, at least in its majority. Suddenly making one of your 80 (plus?) playable characters not playable, especially when you have the figure right there, just isn't a wise thing to do. And while I agree that some characters have similar attacks (or etc.), I can't say that any of them replace each other. And to be honest, half the replacement I see here is based on looks. Popthorn and Wrecking Ball play nothing alike, same with Ignitor and Blast Zone. Sure from a character design stand point, they look like replacements, I guess, but when it comes to play style, they're two different beast. When all is said and done, I think the game where they finally retire any skylander figure, is the day they make the last skylander game.
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#5 Posted: 18:00:12 02/02/2014
This will never happen, sorry. They have already stressed a lot on how they want to support the existing fan base. Sorry but this will not happen. I mean why? They would lose the ability to rose these guys. The ones that are unreposed that latter get reposed will sell like crazy. They would just never do this...
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#6 Posted: 20:29:40 02/02/2014
I really don't think they will retire specific characters. If they ever do that, it will be a group of characters. In the future, it could become too difficult to support all the different gimmicks on one portal, so they could for example, make the Swap Force characters unavailable in Skylanders 8.
Also, with the power of the new consoles and their disk space, a lot of characters can be supported, so keeping all of them is not difficult.
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#7 Posted: 20:34:11 02/02/2014
I'd doubt they'd "retire" a figure but you could call one that doesn't get a repose a "retirement" in a sense. (And plenty of ebayers use the word to describe figures from SSA)
More than likely, we'll simply see newer characters replace the older ones as the promo/"main" characters of the series.
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#8 Posted: 20:45:35 02/02/2014
Yeah, I don't see them stopping support for any characters. No reposes perhaps if it's not a good seller etc, but given that the abilities and design already exist, it's not THAT much work to keep including it in future releases as compared to coming up with a new character from the ground up.
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#9 Posted: 03:21:47 03/02/2014
I see them alternating characters for games and I take it more of those that can be involved at that point in that part of skylands story wise. I think if you wish to use the retirement term it might be temporary until another game is released where they will bring certain ones back later especially since camo might be the first from SSA to come back from missing giants as a series 2 while warnado and wham shell became light cores.
It's already been stated that they could easily make money as such to drive sales. Since they always want to make more characters, there will be some that will be supported to another repose while others might not. It is possible that some could be retired, but that all depends on how many games they make before they are done to determine that.
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#10 Posted: 05:33:48 03/02/2014
The Giants are probably the most "retired" as I doubt we will see them reposed.
But they need to retire Spyro, Trigger happy, Stealth elf and any other figure that has been in all 3 games. Although I don't see Spyro getting "retired". By "retired" I mean not reposed but still playable in future games.
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#11 Posted: 09:44:33 03/02/2014
Don't forget Eruptor, there are like what? five of him now?
I hope they always make the old figures playable, it would be real sad to loose some of the old old figures like Dinorang.
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#12 Posted: 13:12:18 03/02/2014
They always said that their plan was to always make all the characters playable. The problem is making them available. Their solution seems to be reposes, but I disagree. I think they may need to change the way they market the Skylanders. Right now, we're getting SSA, Giants and Swap Force, but what if they just start making a more generic solution? Now that we have S3 figures, I believe that is enough. For most people, they would probably just care about getting the newest repose, so once a new game is released, any figure that isn't being reposed, should be included in a generic figure line (i.e. Skylanders Universe or something). They can continue to switch out the case assortments so they don't have them all out at once to make it easier for distribution and store space. But having the one generic line would make it much easier for the stores who have to deal with the different lines. Most stores, currently, only keep up with Swap Force (the latest) and maybe some Giants (the previous game). I don't see stores wanting to change the 2 figure line limit. So have the latest game and instead of just the previous game, have the generic line. Now it may get confusing for a lot of the general public (especially parents) on which ones will work with the older games, but it can be designated on the package, just like they do now. It's not like it's confusing, now, where they don't realize that older figures will work with newer games or if newer figures work with the older games. Although having just one line is probably more confusing, but I just see it as the more simpler way of releasing them and keeping the characters in distribution. Variants may have to be unreleased and kept as a collector's thing, or maybe they can randomly throw them in. The same goes for reposes. I guess they could go the route of trying to throw in the different reposes as different versions of the character (much like how they release Star Wars or Batman figures of different outfits for the same character), but that may get more complicated. Either way, they need to do something about how they handle this going forward.
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#13 Posted: 13:18:42 03/02/2014
I would stop buying new skylander games if any of my original "retired" figures cannot get in on the action . That word retired is an ebay word designed to make a skylander toy seem rare .
Since Giants never got a repose i guess that will also be the case for Swop Force figures.
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#14 Posted: 15:12:53 03/02/2014
Wait... I thought that you guys meant "figures that didn't get any reposes and haven't been used in advertising" by "retire" the whole time! My definition of "retired" is simply Skylanders which haven't had any new toys based on them for two or more games(so to me, Voodood, Dino-Rang, Sunburn, Boomer and Ghost Roaster are the only "retired" toys). Yeesh, didn't think you meant excluding them from the game.
If they ever make it so that any old figures cannot be played in a future game, I draw the line there. No matter what else the game has, that is where I stop playing the games. Period.
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#15 Posted: 16:37:48 03/02/2014
The new way to bring them back but not code too much for them may probably be the lightcore route.
Flashwing, Wham-Shell and Warnado, all returned and reposed as Lightcores. New physical toy design, but no new Wow-Pows, etc. Honestly, I don't see them giving up on any character as of yet. The franchise is still only 3 years old. That may be ages in the strictly digital world of video games, but this game has a physical, collectible component in the figures. |
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#16 Posted: 18:45:59 03/02/2014
Ebay sellers needed to invent the word "Retired" because if they described the unpopular toys that did not sell as Unpopular Toys that did not sell For Sale . It would kill their sales .
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#17 Posted: 18:50:19 03/02/2014
Whirlwind!
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#18 Posted: 18:58:00 03/02/2014
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Storage/CPU is not the consideration for supporting hundreds of characters. It boils down to--does Activision have their ducks in a row to minimize coding/development changes for "legacy" characters from game? Granted testing has to happen regardless...but for me it's how much can they squeeze into the yearly rollout schedule. I suspect at some time they MAY start to concede some of this but I'd highly advise against it as that was what separated this franchise from any others...backwards compatibility. The fact that reposes are still very much in the mix more or less guarantees that I doubt they have plans anytime soon to do that. From a technical standpoint though, gotta give them props for as long as they do this...cause it's AWESOME! BOOM!
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#19 Posted: 22:25:51 03/02/2014
I don’t think TFB would ever allow the permanent removal of characters from the game. And I’d be unsurprised to see the return of Sunburn, Voodude and Dinorang as reposes in the future – although I have a bad feeling that Ghost Roaster might be permanently out (I recall that some parents complained he was too scary for a kids game).
If they go out of their way to support volcanic vault and old adventure-pack toys, I’m sure that characters will continue to be supported. I’ve said this before, but they should stop doing reposes all together, focus on new figures and start a ‘Legacy’ line of figures that contains the last version of any given character. I know that cost means they can’t (and shouldn’t) keep every store stocked with every character – but it would be enough to include a new handful of characters every few months. |
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#20 Posted: 23:45:34 03/02/2014
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Thats what the Legendarys should be IMO, to bad they cant do that with TRU exclusivity... But I guess they could. i cant imagine any other outlet selling as many as TRU |
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#21 Posted: 01:07:54 04/02/2014
The only Skylanders that are retired are Giants and the Swapables. They served their purpose and they really don't have a central role.
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#22 Posted: 05:26:49 04/02/2014
I'd be happy not seeing another Spyro/Chop Chop/Cynder/Stealth Elf/Whirlwind/Eruptor/Trigger Happy/Gill Grunt/Prism Break in the next game. We get it, they're core staples. But I think we own these guys to death. It may have been Spyro's Adventure, but the people buying the game aren't buying it for Spyro any more.
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#23 Posted: 11:54:13 04/02/2014 | Topic Creator
The question really wasn't so much about what your reaction to retirement was, or whether or not you thought it would happen, but which ones would retire in the hypothetical situation. No matter though.
I honestly don't think they will retire any for round 4, but I do think they will when/if there's a round 5. I understand that being able to play the old figures is a selling point to a lot of people, but there are good reasons for the company to retire figures. 1 - As previously pointed out, coding for the figures takes up disk space and memory, and although they have plenty, people already complain about loading time. I don't know for sure, but I imagine part of that loading time is loading characters (unless it's all done when you place the character on the portal). More characters could mean more loading time, which would turn off fanbase. 2 - More figures means more coding. I'm sure they optimize as much as possible, but more coding inherently means more points of failure, more chances for bugs, more testing time. That potentially means they sacrifice game features for more figures, buggier code and an inferior product. 3 - There is little money in it for Activision. They can only put out so many reposes to sell (otherwise they'd repose them all) and if they aren't selling a figure they aren't making money off the figure. They do it now a little bit for selling old figures and for more enjoyable game play, but those reasons have diminishing returns as time goes by 4 - They can reuse old attack abilities with new characters. They can't do that and sell it so well if it's already available with an old character that's still playable. 5 - They can always bring characters out of retirement for the next game. 6 - Fans wouldn't care as much as you think. This website is not a representative demographic of the Skylander fan base. Most fans are not collectors and they aren't trying to get them all and they aren't playing the old figures that much. I think a lot of fans would be understanding that Activision chose not to keep figures going forever. 7 - The old fans can threaten to leave the franchise if figures retire, but how many will actually follow through with it? Are you really going to miss out on 16-32 new characters, new adventures, etc on principle that you can't play these 8-16 old characters? How many fans would leave for other reasons regardless? 7 - Kids seem to go for the new figures way more then the old figures 8 - From a new collector's standpoint, a smaller number of figures to acquire could make it more appealing. And the number of possible characters seems rather daunting to parents sometimes. Again, I'm not saying I'm pro retirement or I think it's likely or anything like that. Just saying that there are business reasons for retirement. Some reasons weaker then others, granted. |
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