darkSpyro

I'm currently maxed out on friends and still have about 45 incoming friend requests pending. I'm sorry I cannot add these.

I don't know why Activision has implemented a limit but it's pretty annoying.

And even more annoying, they removed the gifting statistics with the kudos friend system so I have no way of knowing who is an active gifter and who is not and could be replaced by a new friend.

And it's just too time consuming to keep track of gifting statistics myself.

So Activision, please remove the friends cap and bring back the gifting statistics!

Amen to all brother
Plus, it would be nice if there was a way to gift massively, it is a pain scrolling and clicking 100 envelopes one by one.

I tend to give people 2 weeks to sign on to the game before I delete them to make room for the pending notifications. When you go to your activate page, scroll all the way to the end of your friends list to see when they last logged on. I find this to be helpful.

I keep a spreadsheet tally of who gifts me and who doesn't. I'm such a nerd. I'm amazed at how many people don't gift for like a week but then when I check when they last logged in it will say "1 hour ago". What the heck people? You can't spend five minutes to give gifts?

It's the people who haven't logged in for a week that I'm usually hesitant to delete. I worry that they might be on vacation. I guess after 2 weeks I'd be ready to axe them, though.

Lol at midas, at least I should be on the good side of the list

I can't fathom ignoring the red !.

/panic

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Lol at midas, at least I should be on the good side of the list

You missed two days in the middle of October buddy! What's up with that?

I have very few perfect or near perfect gifters, but you're up there (with Charred (missed one day), among thers).

And thank you, for your support! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIajxgBZkYY

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Lol at midas, at least I should be on the good side of the list

You missed two days in the middle of October buddy! What's up with that?

Lol, was away on business, kids wouldn't let me take the ipad...

Haha....I missed a day. I love that you noticed.

You know what we need, a list of uber gifters so I can fill out my list.

Maybe Ill start tracking next week as well.

Is anyone having trouble getting to the activate friends lists? I can gift/visit/receive kudos fine. The little "A" on the left menu has the red ! and while I used to be able to click it and go to the list where I could add new people or delete etc, now it just goes to a screen with the "A" logo in the middle and an X to close the screen in the top left. I thought it might just be loading the first couple times, but it never went through.

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Is anyone having trouble getting to the activate friends lists? I can gift/visit/receive kudos fine. The little "A" on the left menu has the red ! and while I used to be able to click it and go to the list where I could add new people or delete etc, now it just goes to a screen with the "A" logo in the middle and an X to close the screen in the top left. I thought it might just be loading the first couple times, but it never went through.

I've been having this issue a lot lately. In rare occasions I can access the Activate browser and I have the same issue with Battlegrounds. No idea what's causing it.

Quote: midas73

I keep a spreadsheet tally of who gifts me and who doesn't. I'm such a nerd. I'm amazed at how many people don't gift for like a week but then when I check when they last logged in it will say "1 hour ago". What the heck people? You can't spend five minutes to give gifts?

I need to do that. I started just gifting back when I receive a gift, but it's not the best solution.

The problem is that I can only gift when logged in, that can sometimes be a pain (especially on weekends) but at least I know who to cull from my list with some confidence.

Even when the game kept stats, I used to track gifters on my spreadsheet as the stats weren't thorough enough for me.

I'm sick, it's true...

This really is a most intriguing thread. I'm fascinated by the different ways players are relating to kudos. Would I like stats returned? Yes, but I can certainly live without them. Would I like the friend cap increased? Yes, but it would effectively mean the death of visiting. I can't visit all 100 friends now inside 2 hours, so what on earth would be the point of having any more friends unless visiting gets abandoned in favour of gifting alone?

Let's say they release another 2000 kudos item to buy. With 100 friends, that's a pathetic THREE DAYS worth of kudos. And we're worried about missing a kudo here or there? With most of us sitting on thousands of idle kudos and those with a full friends list and Batterson capable of getting 700 kudos a day minus any gifts received as gems or wishstones, the devs would have to introduce an item costing well over 10,000 kudos before most of us would even blink.

And since kudos were introduced almost two months ago, the devs are clearly in no hurry to offer anything for us to spend those kudos on. Anyone who avidly visited could now be sitting on a pile of around 40,000 kudos. In typing this, it's finally dawned on me that I should now get Gurglefin. As near useless as wishstones currently are for me, they're not as completely worthless as kudos are. At least you can 'trade-in' the wishstones at the well for a bit of gold and energy. I bought a field of sheep topiary's and quickly realized I couldn't be bothered tapping on all of them.

Please, please devs - either give us something decent to spend an astronomical number of kudos on, or offer us the ability to convert kudos into some other resource. I'd be more than happy to get a gem for every 200 kudos.

Perhaps someone else has a better idea...

Man, I feel like a softy soft, since Ive got friends who haven't gifted me in like 4 months and I haven't cut them loose. Maybe I need to get on that.

The thing that annoys me is I still have 9 friends on my activate list missing from my game. Grrr.

I have a theory on that. Need to try it out more to see if it has any legs. But my theory is not to gift to people and then immediately drop them from your friend list. When I've done that, the person I replace them with rarely shows up in the game. When I know I'm going to drop someone, I've recently started not sending them gifts for a few days and then dropping them. So far, of the 4 I've done this with, the new friends all immediately showed up in the game. My theory is that because you have an outstanding gift, the game may wait for the person you sent it to to log in and collect the gift before freeing the space in your in-game friend list. I think this "glitch" only occurs when you have just sent a gift to someone before removing them once a cylcle or two go by and you can resend a gift to the person you're removing the issue goes away. Who knows, it's probably not an accurate theory and I'll be proven wrong the next time I cull some folks. I'll report back.

Quote: Woz

This really is a most intriguing thread. I'm fascinated by the different ways players are relating to kudos. Would I like stats returned? Yes, but I can certainly live without them. Would I like the friend cap increased? Yes, but it would effectively mean the death of visiting. I can't visit all 100 friends now inside 2 hours, so what on earth would be the point of having any more friends unless visiting gets abandoned in favour of gifting alone?

Let's say they release another 2000 kudos item to buy. With 100 friends, that's a pathetic THREE DAYS worth of kudos. And we're worried about missing a kudo here or there? With most of us sitting on thousands of idle kudos and those with a full friends list and Batterson capable of getting 700 kudos a day minus any gifts received as gems or wishstones, the devs would have to introduce an item costing well over 10,000 kudos before most of us would even blink.

And since kudos were introduced almost two months ago, the devs are clearly in no hurry to offer anything for us to spend those kudos on. Anyone who avidly visited could now be sitting on a pile of around 40,000 kudos. In typing this, it's finally dawned on me that I should now get Gurglefin. As near useless as wishstones currently are for me, they're not as completely worthless as kudos are. At least you can 'trade-in' the wishstones at the well for a bit of gold and energy. I bought a field of sheep topiary's and quickly realized I couldn't be bothered tapping on all of them.

Please, please devs - either give us something decent to spend an astronomical number of kudos on, or offer us the ability to convert kudos into some other resource. I'd be more than happy to get a gem for every 200 kudos.

Perhaps someone else has a better idea...

How about a companion that can be purchased with kudos that harvests the topiaries? Maybe a small thing but I sure would appreciate it.

Also, I dispute the assertion that most of us (a) have Batterson or (b) visit all (or any) friends every day.

Now that the "best glitch ever" is gone, I've stopped visiting altogether.

But that makes me want more friend even more. The only kudos I get are from gifts. Instead of getting 80 or so kudos a day, if the friend cap was raised I could get more (nowhere near 700--you are a true power player Woz).

Of course, I'd have to expand my tracker spreadsheet....

The problem with dropping people after two weeks is sometimes you end up killing someone that had legitimate reasons for no playing. Say the reason was not being able to start the game due to corrupt save that took Activision three weeks to resolve. I lost 15 friends during that period with a couple of the names appearing in this thread.

No Midas, I never asserted that most players have Batterson or visit friends every day. I asserted that most of us are sitting on thousands of idle kudos.

I'm currently sitting on 6600 kudos. I'm capable of 700 gems each day, but why would anyone bother visiting when there's nothing to spend kudos on? I only purchased Batterson (and half-price Cali and half-price Flynn) because I inherited 6000 gems from the glitch in one go.

I really like your suggestion of a topiary companion, but it's destined not to happen. It would entail the devs effectively acknowledging that players are buying fields of topiaries as mini-crops rather than what they were intended to be - decorations.

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I have a theory on that. Need to try it out more to see if it has any legs. But my theory is not to gift to people and then immediately drop them from your friend list. When I've done that, the person I replace them with rarely shows up in the game. When I know I'm going to drop someone, I've recently started not sending them gifts for a few days and then dropping them. So far, of the 4 I've done this with, the new friends all immediately showed up in the game. My theory is that because you have an outstanding gift, the game may wait for the person you sent it to to log in and collect the gift before freeing the space in your in-game friend list. I think this "glitch" only occurs when you have just sent a gift to someone before removing them once a cylcle or two go by and you can resend a gift to the person you're removing the issue goes away. Who knows, it's probably not an accurate theory and I'll be proven wrong the next time I cull some folks. I'll report back.

Sounds like a good theory, except I had missing people from the beginning of the kudos system and I had never dropped anybody (in fact, I didn't even have that many friends). I only dropped people because they weren't showing up in my system, but then I would add them back. Over the past few weeks, I've noticed that every friend I add ends up in my friends list. I usually accept their invitation, then go back to my game, close my banner menu and wait to get a notification on the banner. When I go back to my friends list, a new friend appears. So it seems like they may have fixed the issue, at least, to me. I just need to figure out who's missing and delete them and maybe try re-adding them. Maybe other people are still having issues with new Activate friends being added, but I haven't had an issue in, at least, a month. The only issues I've been having is being sent back to my island after timing out, and some of my friends have the wrong level on my list. Woz is listed as 22 and I have a couple that are at levels above 600. The kick back to my island is steady on some people's islands (i.e. Woz), but I've seen it do it on islands I know I've visited before. In fact, I went to my wife's island once and it kicked me back with an error. I haven't had a problem with her's since.

Yea, I never dropped anyone either.

obidawsn, the only part of your post that really worries me is when you note there are some of your friends that are listed as having levelled beyond 600. I'd be naming those friends here and urging them strongly to make sure they have a recent local backup, or PM them if possible.

I don't know if the 'cloud save' that visitor's access is the same as the 'cloud save' that a player's own device updates to, or simply an older backup at Activision. But I was hoping we'd seen the last of those statistically ridiculous corrupt saves.

I had a friend that showed as level 643. Peekme. I never received gifts, so I deleted them after a while. But that's the only one I've seen.

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I have a theory on that. Need to try it out more to see if it has any legs. But my theory is not to gift to people and then immediately drop them from your friend list. When I've done that, the person I replace them with rarely shows up in the game. When I know I'm going to drop someone, I've recently started not sending them gifts for a few days and then dropping them. So far, of the 4 I've done this with, the new friends all immediately showed up in the game. My theory is that because you have an outstanding gift, the game may wait for the person you sent it to to log in and collect the gift before freeing the space in your in-game friend list. I think this "glitch" only occurs when you have just sent a gift to someone before removing them once a cylcle or two go by and you can resend a gift to the person you're removing the issue goes away. Who knows, it's probably not an accurate theory and I'll be proven wrong the next time I cull some folks. I'll report back.

Sounds like a good theory, except I had missing people from the beginning of the kudos system and I had never dropped anybody (in fact, I didn't even have that many friends). I only dropped people because they weren't showing up in my system, but then I would add them back. Over the past few weeks, I've noticed that every friend I add ends up in my friends list. I usually accept their invitation, then go back to my game, close my banner menu and wait to get a notification on the banner. When I go back to my friends list, a new friend appears. So it seems like they may have fixed the issue, at least, to me. I just need to figure out who's missing and delete them and maybe try re-adding them. Maybe other people are still having issues with new Activate friends being added, but I haven't had an issue in, at least, a month. The only issues I've been having is being sent back to my island after timing out, and some of my friends have the wrong level on my list. Woz is listed as 22 and I have a couple that are at levels above 600. The kick back to my island is steady on some people's islands (i.e. Woz), but I've seen it do it on islands I know I've visited before. In fact, I went to my wife's island once and it kicked me back with an error. I haven't had a problem with her's since.

Oh well. It was a good theory. I'm still missing a friend, and it was a recent addition so they don't have it fully fixed yet...

Mine are peekme and fatman69. They both tend to show up at the bottom of my list, so I may not be getting gifts. It says that fatman69 hasn't been on since last month and is after some that say 4 weeks, so either they lost their game or hasn't been playing. It says peekme was on yesterday. Not sure what's going on with Woz being 22. I noticed that the day I ha a weird glitch and all the islands looked the same (including his who I can never get to). I force closed the game and reopened it to fix the island load problem but he has still shown up as 22.

Yea, peekme is always at the bottom of my list, shown as level 643. It never shows him/her as having the six kudos for visiting, but we exchange gifts almost every day. I remember because it's odd that he/she is always at the bottom of my list below the ones with no gifts, even when there is a gift or envelope.

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I tend to give people 2 weeks to sign on to the game before I delete them to make room for the pending notifications. When you go to your activate page, scroll all the way to the end of your friends list to see when they last logged on. I find this to be helpful.

Thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten about that.
It hardly replaces statistics because it does not catch people who do play but don't gift. But it's better than nothing I guess.


Quote: Kerania

Is anyone having trouble getting to the activate friends lists? I can gift/visit/receive kudos fine. The little "A" on the left menu has the red ! and while I used to be able to click it and go to the list where I could add new people or delete etc, now it just goes to a screen with the "A" logo in the middle and an X to close the screen in the top left. I thought it might just be loading the first couple times, but it never went through.

I do not use the activate page much with my friends maxed out but when I do I have never encountered this problem.


Quote: Woz

This really is a most intriguing thread. I'm fascinated by the different ways players are relating to kudos. Would I like stats returned? Yes, but I can certainly live without them. Would I like the friend cap increased? Yes, but it would effectively mean the death of visiting. I can't visit all 100 friends now inside 2 hours, so what on earth would be the point of having any more friends unless visiting gets abandoned in favour of gifting alone?

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I rarely visit friends even though I still need more kudos to buy more sheep topiary. I did visit more trying to take advantage of the Hyde glitch but sadly never found him on another island than my own.
It's just that visiting costs too much time. My cautious estimation is it will take more than a hour to visit 100 friend not including those irritating connection errors.
Gifting and receiving takes only a few minutes so no problem there if the limit would be doubled.

I'm curious as to the reason of this friends cap. It is a technical one or has it to do with game play to limit the amount of kudos, gems and wishstones players can get from friend.

I always gift everyday.

Loving the idea of not gifting until you recieve the gift. This way at the end of the day, you have a nice little list of everyone who didnt gift. This becomes a fast way to put metrics together.

On adding new friends...

When you add, if they dont show up in one minute they dont show up. So add people one at a time and if they dont show up, you have to go back and delete then. Its the only way to keep yourself at 101. Unfortunate bug.

I had some that showed up in game 2 weeks after they accepted on Activate.

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Loving the idea of not gifting until you recieve the gift. This way at the end of the day, you have a nice little list of everyone who didnt gift. This because a fast way to put metrics together.

On adding new friends...

When you add, if they dont show up in one minute they dont show up. So add people one at a time and if they dont show up, you have to go back and delete then. Its the only way to keep yourself at 101. Unfortunate bug.

Yeah but if the other person you're not gifting has the same policy, and believes they are the last one to send a gift, they you'll end up losing someone who might otherwise have been a good gifter.

For example, I see you hadn't gifted me yet today. What if I decided not to gift you back? We could have ended up in a cycle of not gifting each other!

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I had some that showed up in game 2 weeks after they accepted on Activate.

I've had them show up weeks after as well.

Oh that is a good point. I can tell by my kudos per day that I have a lot of dead beats. Worse is that I have few people that are not logging in. I want the people that log in and dont gift off my list.

I need some way to figure this out without keeping a list of 100.

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I had some that showed up in game 2 weeks after they accepted on Activate.

I've had them show up weeks after as well.

Me, too. I'm still waiting on the last to appear of the seven friends I added at the end of September. The other six took anywhere from a few days to a few weeks.


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Oh that is a good point. I can tell by my kudos per day that I have a lot of dead beats. Worse is that I have few people that are not logging in. I want the people that log in and dont gift off my list.

I need some way to figure this out without keeping a list of 100.

Totally agree. I don't want to keep a separate Excel sheet or something. The old statistics did suffice in that respect.
If I have to tally everybody when browsing through my fiends list it becomes more like work instead of fun.

Yeah, if other people do it too it becomes an issue. What I've been doing is only gifting back when I receive a gift and then I take a screenshot of all of the nongifters and then gift them anyway. Just in case. Now I need to make time to look through and see who is a regular on that list. I wish stats were back in some fashion. Even if we needed to go to a separate page or the activate menu thing or something. Huge pain!

Yea I guess the solution is to gift everyone at the end of the day but record the non-gifters to look for trends.

Hence the spreadsheet!

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I had some that showed up in game 2 weeks after they accepted on Activate.

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I had some that showed up in game 2 weeks after they accepted on Activate.

I've had them show up weeks after as well.

Has it happened recently? It seems in the past month, or so , they usually as within a couple of minutes. As long as you do one at a time. Haven't tried adding more than one.

Tried to add Mcquist about a week ago. No dice after three days - appears in Activate but not in-game. Ended up defriending him yet again and issuing a new invite, which finally worked. But it never worked from his direction to me despite multiple attempts.

Quote: Pico

The problem with dropping people after two weeks is sometimes you end up killing someone that had legitimate reasons for no playing. Say the reason was not being able to start the game due to corrupt save that took Activision three weeks to resolve. I lost 15 friends during that period with a couple of the names appearing in this thread.

I'll own up to being one of those, but my reason was actually that you had appeared in my list of friends, but not in my game. I was still trying to get Admiral Thumpback at that point, and when I came to the forum to find more names to add, I saw you were unable to play, so sending you a "second attempt" invite didn't seem like a good idea.

Sorry - no offense was intended.

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I had some that showed up in game 2 weeks after they accepted on Activate.

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I had some that showed up in game 2 weeks after they accepted on Activate.

I've had them show up weeks after as well.

Has it happened recently? It seems in the past month, or so , they usually as within a couple of minutes. As long as you do one at a time. Haven't tried adding more than one.

I've only been playing for a month