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From the info we have from E3, we now know that any SwapForce figures that had an S2 in Giants and get a repose for SwapForce will be considered S3 and any New (S1) Giants that get reposed will be considered S2. From that format you would think that if any forgotten 8 (SSA) characters get reposed they will be considered S2. I hope you follow me cause my confusing question will be next.

Before I ask the confusing question, I personally think Activision screwed up the s1/s2/s3 format. To make it simple they should have just made SSA (Green base) = s1, Giants (Orange base) = s2 and Swap (Blue base) = s3. This would be so much easier and less confusing for newbies.

Here is the question that all of you have been waiting for:
We know that Activision is coming out with 16 New (Never Seen in any other Game) Skylanders for Swap Force right? With the current format in place you would consider them S1 (Series1) even though they will not have s1 on the package. Please visit the site below:
http://www.skylanders.com/swapforce/faq
and click on the "What Skylanders are in the Game?"
You will see the "16 New Skylanders Characters" but the Icon has an S3 associated with it. This contradicts the format that was introduce at E3.
This format shown here: http://www.skylanders.com/swapforce/faq
would back up the simple/easy way of using the s1/s2/s3 format. That All Swap Force (New and Old) are considered S3 and that All Giants are considered S2.

They cant call the new Swap Force characters S3 if the new characters from Giants (i.e. Sprocket) and the forgotten 8 from SSA (Boomer) are considered S2?

I hope someone from Activision is reading this so they can explain this to me.

You're reading a little too much into what (more than likely) is an error on the page. The new characters coming with SWAP Force have only been referred to officially as "Core series". As of right now, Giants are considered part of a series. They're Giants just like SWAP Force figures are SWAP Force.

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You're reading a little too much into what (more than likely) is an error on the page. The new characters coming with SWAP Force have only been referred to officially as "Core series". As of right now, Giants are considered part of a series. They're Giants just like SWAP Force figures are SWAP Force.

I can understand the error on the web site, but to say they refer them as "Core Series" on the site is wrong. You may need to visit the site again, because they refer the "16 New Skylanders" for Swap Force as "S3".

One other interesting thing I noticed is that the "16 Returning Characters..." on the site shows an icon of a Giant and a regular Character. Does this mean that some of the 16 characters will be a Repose Giant (i.e. Ninjini)? Or did they make an error on that icon too?

If it helps, the 16 new corelanders are indeed S1. If you pay attention when watching the demos when characters like Countdown and Roller Brawl are put on the portal, under their name in small text to the right, you see "Series 1."

As Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pTtmvDwE5U

Skip to about 0:13 when the video is paused.

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You're reading a little too much into what (more than likely) is an error on the page. The new characters coming with SWAP Force have only been referred to officially as "Core series". As of right now, Giants are considered part of a series. They're Giants just like SWAP Force figures are SWAP Force.

I can understand the error on the web site, but to say they refer them as "Core Series" on the site is wrong. You may need to visit the site again, because they refer the "16 New Skylanders" for Swap Force as "S3".

I didn't say that they were referred to as "Core series" on the site. I said that they have only officially been referred to as "Core series" ie all of the interviews and demos that came out of E3. What's causing you to think that they are calling the new figures "Series 3" is the error I was referring to: The fact that they have the Series 3 logo in front of the bulletpoint advertising the new figures. Just like the have the wrong icon (Giants series) in front of the bulletpoint advertising the reissued figures.

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If it helps, the 16 new corelanders are indeed S1. If you pay attention when watching the demos when characters like Countdown and Roller Brawl are put on the portal, under their name in small text to the right, you see "Series 1."

As Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pTtmvDwE5U

Skip to about 0:13 when the video is paused.

Thank You.
That explains that the icon on the skylander.com/faq site is an error. I hope they see this soon and fix it. I doubt the package would have the icon of S3 of a New Swap Force character.

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Quote: portalflip

You're reading a little too much into what (more than likely) is an error on the page. The new characters coming with SWAP Force have only been referred to officially as "Core series". As of right now, Giants are considered part of a series. They're Giants just like SWAP Force figures are SWAP Force.

I can understand the error on the web site, but to say they refer them as "Core Series" on the site is wrong. You may need to visit the site again, because they refer the "16 New Skylanders" for Swap Force as "S3".

I didn't say that they were referred to as "Core series" on the site. I said that they have only officially been referred to as "Core series" ie all of the interviews and demos that came out of E3. What's causing you to think that they are calling the new figures "Series 3" is the error I was referring to: The fact that they have the Series 3 logo in front of the bulletpoint advertising the new figures. Just like the have the wrong icon (Giants series) in front of the bulletpoint advertising the reissued figures.

Good. Sounds like we are now on the same page. Error on the Skylander.com/faq site. Again I hope they fix this soon, otherwise we will be explaining this to someone that did not read this post or to someone new to this site, when Swap Force gets closer to its release date.

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From the info we have from E3, we now know that any SwapForce figures that had an S2 in Giants and get a repose for SwapForce will be considered S3 and any New (S1) Giants that get reposed will be considered S2. From that format you would think that if any forgotten 8 (SSA) characters get reposed they will be considered S2. I hope you follow me cause my confusing question will be next.

Before I ask the confusing question, I personally think Activision screwed up the s1/s2/s3 format. To make it simple they should have just made SSA (Green base) = s1, Giants (Orange base) = s2 and Swap (Blue base) = s3. This would be so much easier and less confusing for newbies.

Yeah, I've been aware of this numbering snafu for months, since before we were aware of Swap Force. I did indeed notice that only reposed figures would say "Series 2" when placed on the portal. When I first came on these forums I understood and used "S1 = green base, S2 = orange base". I even had that in my signature. But I then learned that the S1, S2 is referring to RELEASE. The first release is S1 (no matter which game it is), the second is S2. (Never mind variants, of course).

I agree, S1 = SSA, S2 = SG makes more sense to me.

Yea at this point Activision is making so much money, they don't care.

What a mess... characters made for the first game should be S1, the second game S2 and next game S3 regardless of previous versions of the character.

I don't understand why people want to eliminate useful terminology in order to have multiple terms that all mean the same thing. That's what would happen if S1 is for green base, S2 is for orange base, etc. We already have the color of the base to indicate which game a figure was released for. Using a series number to indicate the exact same thing is redundant. Meanwhile, the series number as it's actually used indicates not only which release of a character a particular figure is, but what functionality it has.

Green base - S:SA figure
Orange base - S:G figure
Blue base - S:SF figure

S1 - first release, no path switching, no wow-pow
S2 - second release, path switching, 1 wow-pow
S3 - third release, path switching, 2 wow-pows

Core - one of the 32 basic figures released for each game (Spyro, Jet-Vac, Roller Brawl, etc.). Basically, any of the figures that aren't one of the 16 lightcores, 8 giants, or 16 swap force members.

yah this was a close call... this s2 and s3 thing did nearly make me go nuts too....

This could really just be a matter of the web developer putting the wrong icons on that page.

The Series 3 icon has text '16 new SKylanders characters'
The icon next to it says '16 returning....'

If you swap the icons alone, then it actually makes far more sense.

To me, the ultimate is really what the game itself shows. That's going to be the real determining factor, IMO.

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I don't understand why people want to eliminate useful terminology in order to have multiple terms that all mean the same thing. That's what would happen if S1 is for green base, S2 is for orange base, etc. We already have the color of the base to indicate which game a figure was released for. Using a series number to indicate the exact same thing is redundant. Meanwhile, the series number as it's actually used indicates not only which release of a character a particular figure is, but what functionality it has.

Green base - S:SA figure
Orange base - S:G figure
Blue base - S:SF figure

S1 - first release, no path switching, no wow-pow
S2 - second release, path switching, 1 wow-pow
S3 - third release, path switching, 2 wow-pows

Core - one of the 32 basic figures released for each game (Spyro, Jet-Vac, Roller Brawl, etc.). Basically, any of the figures that aren't one of the 16 lightcores, 8 giants, or 16 swap force members.

So the 8 characters in Giants that may or may not get reposed (Jet-Vac, Sprocket, Chill) are only going to have 1 wow-pow?

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I don't understand why people want to eliminate useful terminology in order to have multiple terms that all mean the same thing. That's what would happen if S1 is for green base, S2 is for orange base, etc. We already have the color of the base to indicate which game a figure was released for. Using a series number to indicate the exact same thing is redundant. Meanwhile, the series number as it's actually used indicates not only which release of a character a particular figure is, but what functionality it has.

Green base - S:SA figure
Orange base - S:G figure
Blue base - S:SF figure

S1 - first release, no path switching, no wow-pow
S2 - second release, path switching, 1 wow-pow
S3 - third release, path switching, 2 wow-pows

Core - one of the 32 basic figures released for each game (Spyro, Jet-Vac, Roller Brawl, etc.). Basically, any of the figures that aren't one of the 16 lightcores, 8 giants, or 16 swap force members.

So the 8 characters in Giants (Jet-Vac, Sprocket, Chill) are only going to have 1 wow-pow?

No, they will not have any. They are technically S1 in that there is only the first generation.

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Quote: Teratron

I don't understand why people want to eliminate useful terminology in order to have multiple terms that all mean the same thing. That's what would happen if S1 is for green base, S2 is for orange base, etc. We already have the color of the base to indicate which game a figure was released for. Using a series number to indicate the exact same thing is redundant. Meanwhile, the series number as it's actually used indicates not only which release of a character a particular figure is, but what functionality it has.

Green base - S:SA figure
Orange base - S:G figure
Blue base - S:SF figure

S1 - first release, no path switching, no wow-pow
S2 - second release, path switching, 1 wow-pow
S3 - third release, path switching, 2 wow-pows

Core - one of the 32 basic figures released for each game (Spyro, Jet-Vac, Roller Brawl, etc.). Basically, any of the figures that aren't one of the 16 lightcores, 8 giants, or 16 swap force members.

So the 8 characters in Giants (Jet-Vac, Sprocket, Chill) are only going to have 1 wow-pow?

No, they will not have any. They are technically S1 in that there is only the first generation.

I was refering to their repose character that may or may not be out for SwapForce?

Maiby just an error...

EDIT: Like the 1-4 player for swap force... Nintendo changed it to 1-2 after...

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Maiby just an error...

EDIT: Like the 1-4 player for swap force... Nintendo changed it to 1-2 after...

Please invest in a dictionary if you can't spell maybe.

I asked one of the guys at the Skylanders booth at E3. He said that they are taking a different approach in Swap Force. Rather than having "series 3" figures, all "reposes" will have slightly modified names, i.e. Ninja Stealth Elf instead of Series 3 Stealth Elf. There will be no Swap Force figures with the same name as a previously released figure.