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Anyone think that the next gen consoles will have skylanders as an option?

Not until Skylanders 4.

Yeah, they will probably announce a version of Swap Force for PS4/XBO at E3. It will be a quick port job, of course - with no new features other than a portal that will work on them, likely just a regular USB one. Port jobs to those far more powerful consoles are just too quick and easy for Activision to not want to collect the money. And Sony/MS will welcome the bolstering of their launch lineup with a popular game. Neither new console is backwards compatible either, so to play Skylanders they will have to port it. And if they were really clever they would pack in a quick port of game 1 & 2 to generate more interest (not likely).

Nice can't wait to get PS4 and XBOX ONE

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Nice can't wait to get PS4 and XBOX 720

It is not called Xbox720 it is called xbox one

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Nice can't wait to get PS4 and XBOX 720

It is not called Xbox720 it is called xbox one

Ya thats why i edited my post, i research i guess Xbox One is the real name for it then

Obviously I'm just speculating, so it isn't a confirmation. It just makes sense that the new platforms will get port jobs of a lot of the most popular games coming out this fall. It always happens, notably the WiiU launch lineup was FILLED with ports, including Giants.

New development is always lagging behind on launches, in an effort to maintain secrecy, development kits are held close and given to only the most trusted developers with heavy restrictions that tends to slow developments of initial new games. Consoles makers need to fill the launch lineup with something popular or else they get raked over the coals (see WiiU, 3DS, DS, PS3, Vita, etc. which would be even worse without the ports) for the next year by the press predicting that console to be a "failure". It isn't always accurate, but gamers can be an impatient bunch.

This will probably be like the WiiU. The didn't announce the WiiU port 'till about September/October. This will most likely be the case for PS4/XBO

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Not until Skylanders 4.

I don't see this game being made, especially with how the stores are getting fed up with current stock. I feel by the time they finish with swap force they're going to be done with this in general. I wouldn't count on a 4th game especially since the third hasn't even launched yet.

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Not until Skylanders 4.

I don't see this game being made, especially with how the stores are getting fed up with current stock. I feel by the time they finish with swap force they're going to be done with this in general. I wouldn't count on a 4th game especially since the third hasn't even launched yet.

I am pretty sure TFB are making Skylanders 4.

Swap Force isn't even out yet and people are talking about Skylanders 4 already lol

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Swap Force isn't even out yet and people are talking about Skylanders 4 already lol

Vicarious Visions are making Swap Force so I think TFB will get more time to make Skylanders 4, so it will be longer and better.

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Swap Force isn't even out yet and people are talking about Skylanders 4 already lol

Vicarious Visions are making Swap Force so I think TFB will get more time to make Skylanders 4, so it will be longer and better.

ya but why talk about something that don't have information on, i can understand talking about Swap Force because theres alot of information about it but Skylanders 4??

To be honest I'm surprised that they even bothered porting Giants to Wii U and Swap Force to Wii, because the former plays Wii games fine, and the latter is pointless since new 3D Super Mario and a Zelda remake will come out by the end of the year and make the Wii U explode exactly like the 3DS.

There will nearly certainly be an XBone port because it cannot play 360 games. I see utterly no need for a PS4 port, but it will make them money, and that is all they care about. I think that both will arrive. Of course, I'm not buying either, since I won't touch an XBone and I'm only getting a PS4 next Christmas(I'm getting a Vita this Christmas because the PSP1000 is horridly uncomfortable)...

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Anyone think that the next gen consoles will have skylanders as an option?

Given how cartoonish and the engine they're using...not sure how it will equate to a better experience. For me anyway, hardware capabilities have started to plateau.

As a noob PC enthusiast I shudder to think how dated consoles are going to become... Some builds could already be better than what PS4 and XBone offer! PCs are much more expensive, but that's offset by the cheapness of Steam and actually upgrading hardware. I'm quite frustrated with the push for graphics though, because it's just more tasking for devs and has added little to gameplay... Higher specs are a good thing to strive for. Using them just to upgrade graphics is horribly pointless compared to actually utilizing it on new ideas and more complicated gameplay mechanics.

I don't think consoles have really hit a plateau technology wise, but in reality they have reached a point where the casual user can tell a difference. So maybe there is a plateau in reaching Average Joe. The WiiU was necessary because Nintendo didn't go HD with the Wii. You can tell a difference in SD and HD. Compare Mario U versus Mario Wii and you can see a big difference.

But the XBox and PS did last generation and all the new consoles offer is MOAR POWAH. Unlike previous generations, this one has gone on much longer and I still haven't felt that the current one feels limited in what they can do with games. Previously toward the end of a generation you could tell they were reaching the end, frame rates would lag and slow down and later games (while pushing limits) you could tell they could do more if they just had a bit more power. I just don't feel it this time. The most recent games I have gotten do not feel performance limited at all.

Of course, graphics junkies feel otherwise, as they ooh and ahh over being able to zoom in and see pimples on their Call of Duty soldier (which they never do when they are, you know, actually playing).

I also don't feel their social network gimmicks are a big deal. I hooked my XB and PS to Facebook for a while, then realized it was pointless. No one wants to know that I finished level 3 in a game. XBO and it's television focus is just bizarre. I don't need new ways to find my favorite shows, a DVR does that just fine. If I want to look something up about a show, my smart phone is right there. I have the current Kinect, and waving my arms to navigate and speaking is cool at first - but I never use it anymore. I guess they have to do that, because getting a casual gamer's interest (ie the majority of buyers) you are going to need more than graphics improvements that only a dedicated person would really notice.

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Not until Skylanders 4.

I don't see this game being made, especially with how the stores are getting fed up with current stock. I feel by the time they finish with swap force they're going to be done with this in general. I wouldn't count on a 4th game especially since the third hasn't even launched yet.

I am pretty sure TFB are making Skylanders 4.

I'm pretty sure Activision has them working on different things now that aren't skylanders related. I read up on that on I can't recall the website or game publication but I don't think TFB is coming back to do more skylanders. That's why swap force was being done by VV. Considering the way they've managed these and what they plan on doing. We went from regular figs => giants => figures that can be randomized there's not much else you can actually do with them. I highly doubt there's going to be a skylanders 4. With disney universe around the bend in about 2 months and swap force is going to lose money. I think the fact with so many shelf warmers this time is a good indication swap force will be a finale.

Oh, there will be a Skylanders 4. Never count on Activision to give up on beating a property into a quivering bloody pulp until sales collapse. Which they haven't with Skylanders. They still sell like hotcakes, almost 9 months later. Sure you can say they have had distribution issues, but not sales problems. You just don't abandon a franchise that has made as many millions as they have been boasting about it making.

The thing is they haven't said what TFB is doing. Given the company's pedigree it will be figure related, likely Skylanders. Activision has a history of spinning a popular franchise to two different studios to handle alternating year games. You simply cannot do much more than an expansion pack in a year, as evidenced by Giants. They cleaned up the engine, added a new story and new figures and went with it. Swap Force is a new engine, new mechanics, new technology, new base platform (no longer developed and ported from the Wii version).

Yes, Skylanders will probably die down eventually. But, you are far too aggressive in your prediction.

I don't feel I am being so aggressive with it as even this site here shows how many of the spyro games have played out to the usual patterns. The main ones of significance usually come in 3s. The first trilogy and then the legend one. Skylanders while it can make a boat load of money, I'm just not seeing that this time around. That's more apparent in comparison from last year with adventure to now. There was far less riding on shelves and I think either they overstocked them compared from then, or they got a bit greedy in trying to spread certain waves over others. What most stores have is a 3.5 and it's been that way for weeks or possibly months now. Even with the release of scarlet in the U.S, it's over two months from any "new" figures to be released. We're finally starting to see LC Pop fizz and LC chill. Most stores probably only carried one or two boxes of actual wave 4 figs, especially spryo and wrecking ball and went back to stocking wave 3 and wave 2 non sellers.

The fact of so many reposes doesn't help figure sales as most won't be bothered to collect for heroic challenge or completion for collections as most at this time are awaiting swap force. We know they're making money, but making more than SSA? That's to be determined at this point now. From bloating so many stores with a certain wave of stock that no one is really buying. With increased competition and the likelihood that they could actually skip over spyro and cynder as reposes in an s3. It's looking more that at best they might be posed as Lightcores which would make a lot of sense at this point.

What else can tfb, vv and activision really bring to the table after 3 games? There's only so many times you can face the same end boss and buy countless figures for collections. Many have already or will be riding out 100+ figures even before seeing swap force. One has to consider how parents might react and see this as too much too soon and it really is. Many collectors might even bow out as there being too many newer figures in Swap force. This pending year will probably make or break the franchise, and this could very well be the last activision could milk of it because they did it so much. It doesn't have to take countless sequels to do it, just enough of the same old tactics and distribution too soon. How many guitar hero games for the systems came out? Skylanders is about on every possible platform you can think of so you will see a port of swap force for the new systems. It's starting to feel like the whole skylanders thing is dying down, your local retailers shelves are good proof of this, and it's going to show its wear when Swap force clogs them too.

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Not until Skylanders 4.

I don't see this game being made, especially with how the stores are getting fed up with current stock. I feel by the time they finish with swap force they're going to be done with this in general. I wouldn't count on a 4th game especially since the third hasn't even launched yet.

Which stores are getting fed up with current stock? The stores by me are still flying through this stuff.

It will take a while to make a portal for an unreleased console.

Consoles are unreleased to the public. Developer kits are sent to companies far in advance so they can make titles in advance for upcoming consoles. Otherwise the Ps4 would come out but no games would be released for it.

And both consoles have USB ports. It isn't as difficult as you think. All you need to do is write a driver for the hardware.

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What else can tfb, vv and activision really bring to the table after 3 games? There's only so many times you can face the same end boss and buy countless figures for collections. Many have already or will be riding out 100+ figures even before seeing swap force. One has to consider how parents might react and see this as too much too soon and it really is. Many collectors might even bow out as there being too many newer figures in Swap force. This pending year will probably make or break the franchise, and this could very well be the last activision could milk of it because they did it so much. It doesn't have to take countless sequels to do it, just enough of the same old tactics and distribution too soon. How many guitar hero games for the systems came out? Skylanders is about on every possible platform you can think of so you will see a port of swap force for the new systems. It's starting to feel like the whole skylanders thing is dying down, your local retailers shelves are good proof of this, and it's going to show its wear when Swap force clogs them too.

Guitar Hero
Guitar Hero 2
Guitar Hero 3: Legends of Rock
Guitar Hero 4: World Tour
Guitar Hero 5
Guitar Hero 6: Warriors of Rock
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
Guitar Hero: Metallica
Guitar Hero: Van Halen
Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s
Guitar Hero Smash Hits
Band Hero

... and that doesn't even count the spin offs/mobile/portable/arcade games or the fact there was Rock Band coming out with almost as many versions at the same time. And they were selling full sets of plastic instruments and massive quantities of downloaded tracks for them.

And you are thinking Activision is going to give up the ghost on Skylanders after THREE games? You VASTLY under-estimate the amount of video game plastic things people will tolerate.

Good list defpally, (Missed Dj Hero, just to keep adding to the point). But there are more games that came with plastic stuff from Activision.

Cabela's African Safari
Cabela's Alaskan Adventures
Cabela's Big Game Hunter
Cabela's Big Game Hunter III: The Next Harvest
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2009
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2011
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2013
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts: Ultimate Challenge
Cabela's GrandSlam Hunting: North American 29
Cabela’s Monster Buck Hunter
Cabela's North American Adventures
Cabela's 4x4 Off-Road Adventure
Cabela's 4x4 Off-Road Adventure 2
Cabela's 4x4 Off-Road Adventure 3

And then onto non w/ plastic thing games.

14 versions of Cod and still going,
16 versions of Tony Hawk.

Do we have to keep going to say Activision could take this to 4 or more?

Call of Duty is milked a lot to.

They will keep milking it because it is still selling. That is why they raise figure prices every year. They sell. To Acti, that means it's working, and has nothing that needs to be fixed. It has been said numerous times that they have more ideas for future releases and Skylanders 4 has basically been confirmed- they have said that TFB and Vicarious will switch between developing, they will both make a console game every two years. They have said that they would like the franchise to last for around 20 years. There are already 6 Skylanders games factoring in the iOS games, 8 if you count the 3DS ones since they're completely sepearate and unique. I think it's safe to say they're willing to make these until people stop buying them (or drop them while they're still doing ok for no reason, like GH)

Also, for the record, I never saw a difference between HD and SD that really made me feel gutted. Super Mario Galaxy is probably the best-looking game I've ever seen.

And, by the way, a while ago they said that neither TFB nor VV are working on anything but Skylanders at that moment(no Crash Bandicoot game for you!).

Just thinking about this. That will make swap force on like 6 different systems all at once. I also dont think swap force is coming to the wii? I thought they said wii u only. So that leaves ps3, ps4, xbox360, xbox 1, wii u, and prob some 3ds spinoff.

It's being ported to Wii by Beenox and n-Space will make the (undoubtedly mediocre) 3DS version.

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I don't feel I am being so aggressive with it as even this site here shows how many of the spyro games have played out to the usual patterns. The main ones of significance usually come in 3s. The first trilogy and then the legend one.
What else can tfb, vv and activision really bring to the table after 3 games?

This point is pretty interesting as well. We are talking about what Activision will do with the Skylanders series. Not what other companies have done in the past. Look up on that top bar where all the games are listed. Forget about the 3 Skylanders and count all the games left. Now guess how many Activision had their hand in?

If you guessed more than one you are not correct.

Dawn of the dragon was the only one Activision actually was involved in. And coming in at the end of a dying franchise is alot different than being able to start another from the ground up and do things according to their business model that has proven to be able to make a single game into 10+ games over time. Will they milk it until it dies? Sure. But isn't that what all companies do? Try to change it up to keep it fresh until interest is lost?

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Obviously I'm just speculating, so it isn't a confirmation. It just makes sense that the new platforms will get port jobs of a lot of the most popular games coming out this fall. It always happens, notably the WiiU launch lineup was FILLED with ports, including Giants.

New development is always lagging behind on launches, in an effort to maintain secrecy, development kits are held close and given to only the most trusted developers with heavy restrictions that tends to slow developments of initial new games. Consoles makers need to fill the launch lineup with something popular or else they get raked over the coals (see WiiU, 3DS, DS, PS3, Vita, etc. which would be even worse without the ports) for the next year by the press predicting that console to be a "failure". It isn't always accurate, but gamers can be an impatient bunch.

It's a symbiotic relationship. Games aren't nimble cute things anymore---they cost millions to make and there's NO ROOM for failure. Expect console makers to offer all sorts of help / support to get key titles to their hardware. I too expect an announcement of a "failure" but in reality games take a while on a new hardware platform and there's going to be mis-steps while everyone learns the new platform. Hopefully, it's evolutionary not revolutionary.

There is likely to be a Skylanders game for the new gen consoles- At least I'm not doubting it...

Specifically regarding Skylanders....I expect an announcement later in 2013 regarding new platforms and delivery of the game somewhere in 2014....my opinion. I think the engine change was in anticipation of looking ahead in this regard.

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It's being ported to Wii by Beenox and n-Space will make the (undoubtedly mediocre) 3DS version.

Cool, didn't know that. Good to know for those with only a wii.

They said at E3 that Skylanders Swapforce will be on PS4/XBONE,

The head of TFB has confirmed they are working on Skylanders 4.