darkSpyro

Has there been any confirmation in terms of who/where/when they will be released?

Molten hot dog is coming to Walmart soon in a single pack

I wouldn't mind Molten Hot Dog... Though I intend to grab the Scorpion Striker Battle Pack if and when I can find it, and I think Hot Dog is in there, isn't he? I already have two Cynders and 2 Gill Grunts (though a S1 and S2), I'm getting tired of having repeats, LOL! I already have Flashwing, got her in the triple-pack, so same problem.

They're not really the same character. They have different color schemes and appear different in the game.

Well I know that... And because of the appearance difference and rarity I tend to prefer getting varients over the standard. Actually, when I got the game at TRU they also had Legendary Bouncer so I snapped him up, now in the big fight video after Time Of The Giants it looks so strange to see a normal Bouncer, LOL!

I'm more concerned about functionality than appearance, though... Even the different functionality of Series 1 vs. Series 2 - WowPow, path switching and adding the heroic challenge - is not really enough for me to find it worth it to get Series 2 figures of anybody I have in Series 1. Just enough that if I somehow end up getting a repeat (like with Gill Grunt) that I won't mind that much.

I've never checked, but as I understand it, varients generally have SLIGHTLY different stats, but again, that slight difference isn't enough to interest me, especially since to keep things balanced, some stats might even be lower, to counter-balance any stats which are higher.

This is just me, though. Actually I have a very strong Collector mentality, hereditary it seems, so my having such policies are to fight my urge to have ALL. LOL! Would be way too pricey and way too difficult to attempt. Wanting ALL makes it seem like a waste to have a character twice, you see. I'd rather switch the repeat with someone I don't have!

I used to not like getting doubles. I'm going to try to get the starter pack for the 3DS for Punch Pop Fizz (almost typed Pop Punch Fizz for a second), and then I'll have an extra S2 Cynder and Tree Rex. Everything's been working out for me so far. In the first game I got Dark Spyro, Stealth Elf, and Ignitor. I traded Ignitor for my friend's Voodood, and later got another Ignitor from a triple pack with Warnado and Camo. I got another Stealth Elf in a triple pack and gave it to my other friends, and now I'm going to be getting another one in the Swap Force starter pack. I also got the Portal Master's Pack on accident for Giants but ended up getting S2 Cynder and Jet-Vac in the Mobile Starter Pack. I used to not want doubles, but I have Dark Spyro AND Spyro on different paths, and it works great for any situation, so now I actually WANT doubles. So I'll be fine with getting the 3DS Starter Pack, plus another game and two more Skylanders that'll be on two different paths.

tl;dr - Doubles rock.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Skyland...=item3a7e5029bf

^molten hot dog in package picture

Quote: niceguy1

Well I know that... And because of the appearance difference and rarity I tend to prefer getting varients over the standard. Actually, when I got the game at TRU they also had Legendary Bouncer so I snapped him up, now in the big fight video after Time Of The Giants it looks so strange to see a normal Bouncer, LOL!

I'm more concerned about functionality than appearance, though... Even the different functionality of Series 1 vs. Series 2 - WowPow, path switching and adding the heroic challenge - is not really enough for me to find it worth it to get Series 2 figures of anybody I have in Series 1. Just enough that if I somehow end up getting a repeat (like with Gill Grunt) that I won't mind that much.

I've never checked, but as I understand it, varients generally have SLIGHTLY different stats, but again, that slight difference isn't enough to interest me, especially since to keep things balanced, some stats might even be lower, to counter-balance any stats which are higher.

This is just me, though. Actually I have a very strong Collector mentality, hereditary it seems, so my having such policies are to fight my urge to have ALL. LOL! Would be way too pricey and way too difficult to attempt. Wanting ALL makes it seem like a waste to have a character twice, you see. I'd rather switch the repeat with someone I don't have!

Pretty much the same here. I am more concerned with the character rather than the variant appearance. And as a compulsive collector, I have to set a limit as to what to get so I don't just say "I want them ALL" For me, it's what's on the poster each game (minus Light Core). Yeah that means getting duplicate characters (path switching & wow pow are enough for me to justify it), but no variants.

Jade Flashwing looks beast.

Quote: niceguy1

Actually I have a very strong Collector mentality, hereditary it seems, so my having such policies are to fight my urge to have ALL. LOL! Would be way too pricey and way too difficult to attempt. Wanting ALL makes it seem like a waste to have a character twice, you see. I'd rather switch the repeat with someone I don't have!

I can empathize with that.

I have a strong desire to collect all of the characters as well, but I'm at a crossroads. My current stance is to NOT collect variants. Historically, that has meant the flocked, snow, stone, clear and glow in the dark variants were NOT on my list. With Giants they upped the ante a little by having variants that had an IN GAME difference...at least in terms of visual look.

That being said, I've now altered my variant stance to now INCLUDE characters that have an in game difference. Basically if Skylanders online recognizes them as a character, it's on my buy list. That means now Legendaries, Punch Pop Fizz, Gnarly Tree Rex, Dark Spyro, Royal Double Trouble, Granite Crusher, Jade Flashwing, Molten Hot Dog and Scarlet Ninjini are now on my buy list.

Btw, I'm irritated they are making you have to buy the 3DS/mobile game to get an exclusive. Moving forward they should also manufacture these stand alone (I know I'm dreaming). I may have to furher refine my variants to those that get released in a manner where it's not bundled with a product I don't use (like Punch Pop Fizz, Royal Double Trouble and Gnarly Tree Rex)

they aren't "making you buy a game you don't ue to get a variant"
they are giving a little bonus to the people who do. You are coming at it from a "I must (and deserve) to have them all" mentality. Why do you feel entitled to every variant they release? why can't some just be special for some situations?

LOL i hear ya i just can't help myself collecting the special varients. last year i ended up getting every single special there was :-). this year i'm not going as hardcore for the specials.
Pretty much doing what ghost roaster is grabbing so far for specials i have all ledgendarys, punch pop fizz,GLITD fright rider,sonic boom,and cynder,and i have gnarly rex and granite crusher on there way to me now i can't wait to see them does ne1 know if the show up as granite and gnarly or just reg looking?
Oh my so there is going to be a S2 dark spyro :-) when is he coming?
and reg spyro is still coming aswell right?

Quote: DragonsDream

they aren't "making you buy a game you don't ue to get a variant"
they are giving a little bonus to the people who do. You are coming at it from a "I must (and deserve) to have them all" mentality. Why do you feel entitled to every variant they release? why can't some just be special for some situations?

Because we all DO deserve to have them all! Or at least we're entitled a chance to... Anything else is exclusionist, and excluding people is wrong. It's bad enough that there are PS3 games I can't play because I'm on an XBox, these are accessories for a game that DOES exist for XBox. In fact, the Skylanders games are like the poster children for compatibility, having released on every current major console (I was a bit surprised they did both Wii and Wii U), with characters that work on any system.

Ridiculous, it isn't "exclusionist" in the slight. It's a business and there are deals made between companies to put a product out to the public. Sometimes these deals are cross platform and sometimes they are exclusive. It's just business.

Implying that they are excluding someone from getting the figure with your "we're all entitled a chance to get them all" is completely untrue. Why? Because you ARE given a chance to get them by purchasing the starter pack. It's not different to the original trio of SSA's console starter pack or Tree Rex in the Giants starter packs.

It's COMPLETELY true! I'm being excluded from the Wii exclusive because I both have the XBox version and I already have a Wii... I've owned a Wii since well before SSA came out, why should I not get the chance to get a figure just because I already own the system? And I chose the XBox version partially because I have SSA on the XBox, and I got both for XBox because the XBox is a higher-end system than the Wii. I'm sorry, I can't "choose" to get the other starter packs, because I'm not an idiot, I'm not stupid enough to spend a wad of money on a Starter Pack for a game I can't use, just to get a certain variant!

With things like the Golden Dragonfire Battle Pack, at least all I had to do was find it in an EBGames. It didn't matter if I was playing on an XBox or a Wii or a PS3, anybody could walk in and buy it. But with these special edition Starter Packs, it does indeed exclude people on other systems.

Sorry, but it's true.

If you want the Gnarly Tree Rex you are getting it because you are a collector. If you are worried about ANY variants you are being marketing too from the collector's viewpoint, not the causal gamer's. You are going to spend the money to get it with the Wii again, the PS3 in Europe, or buy it loose on the second hand market. If you don't already own a Wii, its a bonus. The character works the same as the regular Tree Rex you can get through the base game. You arent being excluded, you just dont like the fact of how much that "collector" piece is going to cost you compared to others.

Quote: niceguy1

It's COMPLETELY true! I'm being excluded from the Wii exclusive because I both have the XBox version and I already have a Wii... I've owned a Wii since well before SSA came out, why should I not get the chance to get a figure just because I already own the system? And I chose the XBox version partially because I have SSA on the XBox, and I got both for XBox because the XBox is a higher-end system than the Wii. I'm sorry, I can't "choose" to get the other starter packs, because I'm not an idiot, I'm not stupid enough to spend a wad of money on a Starter Pack for a game I can't use, just to get a certain variant!

With things like the Golden Dragonfire Battle Pack, at least all I had to do was find it in an EBGames. It didn't matter if I was playing on an XBox or a Wii or a PS3, anybody could walk in and buy it. But with these special edition Starter Packs, it does indeed exclude people on other systems.

Sorry, but it's true.

Cop-out answer. You certainly can choose to buy it because it's your money. It's also not only a bonus for the previous owners but also an incentive to possible new owners. The fact you don't understand this and feel you are entitled to it is not the fault of anyone nor is it a reality no matter how much you stomp your foot and whine about it.

Actually, why don't you be proactive and send them an email then about how unfair it is? See what their response will be and then report back to us.

Quote: GothamLord

If you want the Gnarly Tree Rex you are getting it because you are a collector. If you are worried about ANY variants you are being marketing too from the collector's viewpoint, not the causal gamer's. You are going to spend the money to get it with the Wii again, the PS3 in Europe, or buy it loose on the second hand market. If you don't already own a Wii, its a bonus. The character works the same as the regular Tree Rex you can get through the base game. You arent being excluded, you just dont like the fact of how much that "collector" piece is going to cost you compared to others.

Nail on the head. These are limited edition collector's items ultimately and so they are being released as such.

Besides, just because you choose not to sell the Wii system and starter pack on eBay to remake the entire cost of the Gnarly bundle, it doesn't mean the option isn't available to you. This is not a $150 toy. Heck, I MADE $40 when I got my Gnarly, because I sold everything else off.

I understand where niceguy1 is coming from---having reasonable availability of all of the items should be there without having to invest in versions related to systems you don't own or to have to buy a new system (I'm only assuming direct purchasing not aftermarket). At the same time, they've purposely made some of these items unreachable due to barriers to entry related to cost of an entire system. Some people like myself can waste hundreds (dare I say thousands) to get all of these cool toys but some can't. Activision claims up and down in EVERY video how they want to CATER to these types of OCD collectors who will buy ALL of the characters...and in some cases...MULTIPLES of ALL of these characters...yet purposely makes it an extreme PITA for them to do it.

Of course it's our decision---we're the CONSUMERS for crying out loud...and as such if a minority of collectors who in my mind may make up a pretty good percentage of their toy sales makes enough of a STINK about it (or better yet, vote with their dollars), then maybe they'll adjust some strategies. Maybe it will work...most likely won't...but it still doesn't mean they can't listen and understand different perspectives and viewpoints.

Oh wth am I talking about...just fork over your money already.

Quote: Tashiji

Besides, just because you choose not to sell the Wii system and starter pack on eBay to remake the entire cost of the Gnarly bundle, it doesn't mean the option isn't available to you. This is not a $150 toy. Heck, I MADE $40 when I got my Gnarly, because I sold everything else off.

So you sold your Wii for $200 that you bought for $150 and kept Gnarly?

^ Lol your math is way off.

Quote: Tupelo

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Skyland...=item3a7e5029bf

^molten hot dog in package picture

That picture has been around forever. Plus if anyone was to actually "preorder" Molten Hot Dog for that amount of money they need to get a good slap in the mouth.

Quote: DutRank

Quote: Tupelo

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Skyland...=item3a7e5029bf

^molten hot dog in package picture

That picture has been around forever. Plus if anyone was to actually "preorder" Molten Hot Dog for that amount of money they need to get a good slap in the mouth.

well its the first ive seen it on here.

Wow. Not getting support I'm prepared for, it's always a possibility when expressing an opinion online. But to get people vehemently opposing it, passionately defending the corporate greed I'm objecting to? Yikes!

Great thanks to GhostRoaster for proving that my message wasn't completely lost.

Quote: GothamLord

If you want the Gnarly Tree Rex you are getting it because you are a collector. If you are worried about ANY variants you are being marketing too from the collector's viewpoint, not the causal gamer's. You are going to spend the money to get it with the Wii again, the PS3 in Europe, or buy it loose on the second hand market. If you don't already own a Wii, its a bonus. The character works the same as the regular Tree Rex you can get through the base game. You arent being excluded, you just dont like the fact of how much that "collector" piece is going to cost you compared to others.

No, I want Gnarly Tree Rex (and any other variant) because they're UNUSUAL. After all, nearly EVERYBODY has regular Tree Rex, it's a nice feeling to know if mine is different than most people.

And yes, I'm being excluded. There were a couple of points I left unspoken, assuming them to just be universally known. Firstly, that I'm talking "from the stores" not aftermarket. eBay/Kijiji/whatever doesn't count. Anybody can get anything that way, it just requires more work, and more money. It's difficult for me to get deliveries, so I haven't even tried or considered them.

Secondly, I like collecting, but do not allow myself to get into that insane level where I do anything to get one, or pay $200 for a $10 figure! As far as I'm concerned, that's bordering on gouging. I'm willing to go a little higher than normal pricing, but that amounts to $20 for a Giant instead of the standard $15, that's it. Amazon is insane for asking $80 for $10 figures, they're a damned store! An online store, but a store! What's with the aftermarket-style gouging?

Yes, I realize that means I won't be able to collect every figure, but I'm determined not to, so that works out. I'm more objecting to the fact that it's not really my choice, unless I go extreme and/or underhanded. Not having Gnarly Tree Rex or Royal Double Trouble or the others wouldn't bother me in and of itself, but it's that they're unavailable to me, at least under reasonable circumstances.

I'm not even bringing up the exclusives to stores which don't exist near me... Even though there I'm being excluded for being Canadian. It's unfortunately so common I'm used to it, despite the fact that for the most part we have the same TV and products and such as the States.


Quote: Hexin_Wishes

Cop-out answer. You certainly can choose to buy it because it's your money. It's also not only a bonus for the previous owners but also an incentive to possible new owners. The fact you don't understand this and feel you are entitled to it is not the fault of anyone nor is it a reality no matter how much you stomp your foot and whine about it.

Most certainly is not a cop out answer! As I said, aftermarket (eBay, whatever) doesn't count. I'm surprised I have to say that. I should be able to get them from the MANUFACTURER, through whatever store, not be forced to settle for re-buying.

Quote: Hexin_Wishes

Actually, why don't you be proactive and send them an email then about how unfair it is? See what their response will be and then report back to us.

Naturally we all know their reaction without having to go get it. Why do you think I'm sharing these thoughts here, where I would think I'd get "Yeah I know, it sucks" support?

To be clear, I'm quite aware of their intent, and can't fault them for it as it works. I'm just saying it isn't fair to people who aren't insane about collecting, and those of us who would like the varients just in the interests of being different and not one of the crowd.

Quote: Hexin_Wishes

Nail on the head. These are limited edition collector's items ultimately and so they are being released as such.

No, these are toys which are accessories to a game. Certainly, the varients are designed to amp up their collectibility, but as I've pointed out, there's other reasons to want them outside of collecting them. And the ravenous collectibility is supposed to come later, years down the road when they can't be found in stores anymore. They're trying to jumpstart it.


Quote: Tashiji

Besides, just because you choose not to sell the Wii system and starter pack on eBay to remake the entire cost of the Gnarly bundle, it doesn't mean the option isn't available to you. This is not a $150 toy. Heck, I MADE $40 when I got my Gnarly, because I sold everything else off.

Well, firstly, that's way too, IDK, underhanded for me to do. It's not that there's anything actually wrong with it, but it feels too sneaky and stuff. Also, it's too risky for my taste. When you do such a thing, you have to be prepared for the possiblity of losing your money - in this case, not being able to sell the extra system and such. It's also a bunch of extra hassle, putting up the eBay posting, packaging up the stuff to send it off, etc. Needless to say, I've never sold anything on eBay, it's not to my taste.

At the very least I'd have to list it as the Skylanders edition of the system, and that it's opened and sans-Gnarly, both of which making it highly less marketable. Seems a little vile to not include Gnarly, even if I say so. And I'm too possessive to, say, include my standard Tree Rex, LOL!

You MADE $40? Please tell me that was without mis-representing what you were selling!

I think in Activision's eyes, they're rewarding people who are buying the bundles with a special figure. So far, the more "sought after" figures happen to be the ones contained in bundles (ie, Green Gill Grunt, Dark Spyro, Punch Pop Fizz, Gnarly Tree Rex and Royal Double Trouble ) because people don't want to spend the money just to get one figure out of them.

As such, because they've put them into bundles (that aren't cheap by the way), it makes it harder for people to obtain certain figures. Thankfully though, they haven't put a character into a bundle so far that can't be obtained anywhere else. Personally, I think that's why in Giants they made all the packs the same in terms of other characters. (In SSA, if all you had was the 3DS, you wouldn't have been able to obtain regular Spyro, Trigger Happy or Gill Grunt through an outside means...yet people who bought the regular consoles were able to purchase Stealth Elf, Ignitor and even Dark Spyro by themselves)

So it's kind of a double edged sword in a way. On one hand, if you have the dosh and or the need for a particular bundle, you're going to get a figure that's pretty rare (and in most cases, one you could actually resell to recoup whatever you spent on the bundle). On the other hand, you've got special versions of figures that kids AND collectors love to get completely blocked off from them.

I think a good alternative to this that'd end up making everyone happy is them releasing the specialty characters in single packs at the end of the games lifespan. (so like, some time in August or September). They'd obviously have to not announce they'd do this every game release (since that'd drive down anyone buying the bundles more than likely) but it also allows EVERYONE to get the special variants, regardless of what game system or spending range is. Part of me though expects this to happen in Giants; we should see singles of Punch Pop Fizz (maybe in UK only again lawl) and ones for Gnarly Rex and Royal Trouble. But...eh...I dunno. Right now though if you're really hurting for variants, check your local craigslist. I've seen the Green Gill Grunt (along with Spyro, Trigger Happy, 360 version of the game and portal) selling for about $35-$45 and I saw Gnarly, Cynder, Jet-Vac the portal and Wii Version of the game selling for $65 the other day.

^ This, this, and this.

Very good idea, releasing the bundle exclusives in singles in the last months leading to the new game each year would be a good approach. The original buyers of the bundles win because they get the exclusive 9 months before everyone else, the collectors win because the can still get the variants to complete their collections, and Activision wins because the sell more product.

This would also temper the scalper market because collectors would know exclusives such as Gnarly Tree Rex would eventually get a more general release.

^ That WAS gonna happen with Dark Spyro. He was gonna be Target exclusive, but got recalled right before launch.

Target reduces the price of their skylanders giants bundles all the time. two weeks ago they had them down to 109.99. I was able to sell the wii system for 92.99 and the starter pack without gnarly tree rex for 39.99. Its a win for all. everyone gets what they want and at a price that is less than purchasing them individually. There is nothing deceptive when you put the pics and description of exactly what you are selling right in front of the buyers face. Most people are actually quite appreciative to be able to get something as overpriced as a skylanders starter pack for a somewhat tolerable price. I think too many people on this forum are way to quick to jump all over the ebay resale of these items and mark the people that list the items as bad people. If you really want the gnarly version wait till the bundle is on sale and take advantage of giving a couple other people a good deal while making a few bucks for yourself or at the very least breaking even. You won't be "scalping" them because Target has way too many of them to be cleared out! I'd look for them to go on sale again right around or shortly after Easter. At that point I think they will be trying to clear out the rest of their inventory.

Quote: niceguy1

Wow. Not getting support I'm prepared for, it's always a possibility when expressing an opinion online. But to get people vehemently opposing it, passionately defending the corporate greed I'm objecting to? Yikes!

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I'm not supporting corporate greed, I'm supporting capitalism. If you don't like the way things are sold. Dont buy them. If enough people don't purchase the variants in the bundles, then Activision will either a)Stop making the insane amount of variants or b) move to just selling them as singles to see if people will still buy them that way.

The base line of a figure might start at $10, but when you bring in the collectors factor, the price begins to vary based on supply and demand. Its not a $10 figure anymore. You have to accept that fact. As for places like Amazon asking for $80 on a figure... you do realize thats not Amazon right? Thats a retailer selling through Amazon. Complain to Amazon about allowing their 3rd party sellers to jack prices, not that Amazon themselves is putting them up for insane prices. I certainly dont agree that a Thumpback figure should be selling for $80+ right now. But you know what? People keep shelling out the money for them at these insane prices. Until people actually stop being stupid about the figures its going to continue.

Buying the Wii for Gnarly and then reselling the system or the Wii game is a very reasonable option. There are plenty of people that might want the game on multiple systems but don't want to deal with duplicate figures. Heck, some people that dont even play Skylanders might want the Wii. At least it makes up for your "$10 dollar figure" costing more and might only end up costing you $30 or $40 after the fact. If you wait for a sale on the system you can save even more money. If you don't want to attempt to sell it, thats on you.

Quote: niceguy1

Wow. Not getting support I'm prepared for, it's always a possibility when expressing an opinion online. But to get people vehemently opposing it, passionately defending the corporate greed I'm objecting to? Yikes!

Of course people are opposing you, the entitlement greed you are supporting is scary! Talk about yikes. You are acting like Activision has some sort obligation to produce toys in a manner that suits you. Are you kidding me? They have no obligation, moral or otherwise, to do that whatsoever. They can produce their toys however they want, and you either buy them or not. You have no right to determine what free citizens should or should not do with their own property, and that's what this comes down to. Just because you want something does mean the other party should be forced to sell it to you for conditions they find unacceptable. Oh, and this isn't Hollywood fantasy land where every penny a company makes just goes in one person's pocket. The biggest expense in almost any business is labor. Not the CEO's salary either. I know that always sounds like a lot of money in Hollywood fantasy land, but the actuality is the biggest expense is to pay the "regular people" they employ. That's right, in real life the profit they make is used to pay their workers. Basically, you are saying that your getting toys is worth more than someone else's job. Now that's REAL greed.

^

Here Here. There are far to many Veruca Salts with entitlement issues.

Quote: GothamLord

^

Here Here. There are far to many Veruca Salts with entitlement issues.

I actutally know a girl that fits her 100% its scary.

Quote: GothamLord

I'm not supporting corporate greed, I'm supporting capitalism. If you don't like the way things are sold. Dont buy them.

Ech, that's always the failed argument that everybody always turns to. "If you have a complaint, don't buy it". Just because I have a complaint about the fair availability of characters doesn't mean I don't like the game or the variants! And my ceasing to participate won't make a lick of difference, only total and complete boycott could have an impact, which would never happen.

Quote: GothamLord

Its not a $10 figure anymore. You have to accept that fact.

From stores, yes it is. Always. No store charges more for rare figures, the rare figures cost the same as the regular ones. Which has the effect that rare figures fly off the shelves. When I bought my game from TRU, they had both Bouncer and Legendary Bouncer, both $15. I naturally snapped up Legendary because I knew he was exclusive and therefore more rare and more unique. Again, I'm not counting aftermarket purchasing, where yes, of course such supply and demand rules come into play and drive up the price. I heard someone, I believe Matteomax, selling a NON-WORKING Ninjini for $511. Due to the inavailability of any version of Ninjini, working or no, this doesn't surprise me. But I simply can't afford and refuse to be tempted into such nonsense.

Quote: GothamLord

As for places like Amazon asking for $80 on a figure... you do realize thats not Amazon right? Thats a retailer selling through Amazon. Complain to Amazon about allowing their 3rd party sellers to jack prices, not that Amazon themselves is putting them up for insane prices.

Yeah, okay, you've got me there. I keep forgetting that when I search something on Amazon that it sometimes slips in results that aren't Amazon, particularly when Amazon is out of stock or no longer selling.

Quote: GothamLord

I certainly dont agree that a Thumpback figure should be selling for $80+ right now. But you know what? People keep shelling out the money for them at these insane prices. Until people actually stop being stupid about the figures its going to continue.

EXACTLY!!!! It's stupid to pay these prices, and I refuse to participate! Which means either I hope to luck out finding varients at the store, or I don't get. I'm objecting to the fact that I can't even luck out with these.

Quote: GothamLord

Buying the Wii for Gnarly and then reselling the system or the Wii game is a very reasonable option. [...] If you don't want to attempt to sell it, thats on you.

Agreed, this is a reasonable option. Just that it's more effort and risk than I'm comfortable with. Yes, that's on me, I'm the one who hasn't sold anything before and is hesitant to explore this option. Money is too tight to attempt such things right now, but since it being suggested here I've been considering it, I may explore this option later.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

Of course people are opposing you, the entitlement greed you are supporting is scary! Talk about yikes.

Nooooooooo, it's corporate greed I'm objecting to... ???? Wow did you put words in my mouth and twist the meaning of the words I did say! I'm not talking about any entitlement ANYTHING, nevermind entitlement greed! I'm just saying that I'd like things to be more FAIR, to be more EQUAL. Since when is there anything wrong with equality?

Quote: SSj3 Derek

You are acting like Activision has some sort obligation to produce toys in a manner that suits you. Are you kidding me?

Again, stop putting words in my mouth. I said nothing about how they produce them. I simply expressed a desire that I wished they RELEASED them in a way that was accessible to all.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

They have no obligation, moral or otherwise, to do that whatsoever. They can produce their toys however they want, and you either buy them or not.

No obligation, yeah, you're right. Moral, that's a little more hazy. Being fair and equal is generally recognized as more right, I wonder why you don't.... Sure, they didn't have to release variants in a way that was more accessible. I just said I wish they had. That's all.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

You have no right to determine what free citizens should or should not do with their own property, and that's what this comes down to. Just because you want something does mean the other party should be forced to sell it to you for conditions they find unacceptable.

No, that's what the words you imagined I said comes down to. I never said I had any such rights, and I never tried to determine any such thing. Again, I expressed a wish. A wish that things were more fair. I never tried to tell anybody what to do, with anything.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

Oh, and this isn't Hollywood fantasy land where every penny a company makes just goes in one person's pocket. The biggest expense in almost any business is labor. Not the CEO's salary either. I know that always sounds like a lot of money in Hollywood fantasy land, but the actuality is the biggest expense is to pay the "regular people" they employ. That's right, in real life the profit they make is used to pay their workers. Basically, you are saying that your getting toys is worth more than someone else's job. Now that's REAL greed.

Well, the rest of this is a tirade against someone else, because it certainly isn't me. You DO realize, when I was talking about not paying $80 for a $10 figure, that other $70 doesn't go to Activision - or any of the regular people they employ - right? The excessive prices I'm saying I won't pay are to scalpers and eBay sellers, this extra money in no way goes to anyone involved in the game. Think before you speak, please.

Quote: niceguy1

Well, the rest of this is a tirade against someone else, because it certainly isn't me. You DO realize, when I was talking about not paying $80 for a $10 figure, that other $70 doesn't go to Activision - or any of the regular people they employ - right? The excessive prices I'm saying I won't pay are to scalpers and eBay sellers, this extra money in no way goes to anyone involved in the game. Think before you speak, please.

You can try to spin all you want, but none of the rest of us are going to buy it. When you say things like "I'm being excluded.", or "It's not fair.", or "It's corporate greed.", by definition means that they are in the wrong and you somehow have a right to buy these toys on whatever terms you dictate. In fact, let me give you the definition of fair

1. free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice: a fair decision
2. legitimately sought, pursued, done, given, etc.; proper under the rules

Let's see, is selling toys in a bundle biased? Nope, anyone and every has the opportunity to buy these. The fact that you don't want the rest of the bundle doesn't exclude you. Dishonest? Nope, you know what you are getting. Injust? Nope, they have the right to sell their toys however they want. Heck, these are luxury goods, you don't even need them. You just want them. Go ahead, try to tell me how your getting toys is somehow justice. I could use a good laugh. Is it legitimate to sell toys in a bundle? Why, yes it is. Again, they are free citizens who have the right to sell their toys how they choose.

And don't try to weasel out of what you said with the "$80 for the $10 figure" line. Now that is putting words in someone's mouth. You know as well as I do we are all talking about how you were complaining that the bundles were too much, and how that was "corporate greed" because you can't dictate the terms of how these toys are sold. Well those bundles help maintain people's jobs. Now if you don't want to buy them, don't. You have every right not to, but you have no right to decide how they are sold, plain and simple. You apparently think you have the right to do what you want with your property, but other people don't. You want things to be unequal and unfair in your favor. Too bad, they have the same rights you do. Seriously, enough with the greedy complaining. You don't want things to be fair, you just want things. You say "think before you speak" - well practice what you preach.

Finally, this line right here tells us everything we need to know about your REAL motivation -

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Agreed, this is a reasonable option. Just that it's more effort and risk than I'm comfortable with.

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Let's see, is selling toys in a bundle biased? Nope, anyone and every has the opportunity to buy these.

No, not really. See, while it is technically true, I am saying that already owning the particular system is a deterrant to buying the bundles, and am considering it as a reason I CAN'T buy the bundle, that it is unreasonable to do so, it is too extreme (excepting of course the technique already discussed, of reselling what you don't want).

Quote: SSj3 Derek

Dishonest? Nope, you know what you are getting. Injust? Nope, they have the right to sell their toys however they want. Heck, these are luxury goods, you don't even need them. You just want them. Go ahead, try to tell me how your getting toys is somehow justice. I could use a good laugh. Is it legitimate to sell toys in a bundle? Why, yes it is. Again, they are free citizens who have the right to sell their toys how they choose.

Never claimed it was dishonest. Unjust, perhaps though. I'm just talking about being fair (I'm getting tired of you not paying attention and having to repeat myself) and making things available to everybody, not just the people who HAPPEN to not own a Wii yet, but still want one. True, we know what we're getting, I never claimed otherwise. They do indeed have the right to sell their toys however they want, and they are luxury goods. I never claimed otherwise. Just because they can sell them however they want doesn't mean I can't wish it was more fair. It is perfectly legitimate to sell toys in a bundle, again I never claimed otherwise, I just expressed a regret that IN that bundle are toys that aren't available to anybody else (again, I'm counting "already have a Wii" as a reason that this bundle is unavailable, at least under reasonable circumstances)

Interesting how you're arguing against points I never made....

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And don't try to weasel out of what you said with the "$80 for the $10 figure" line. Now that is putting words in someone's mouth. You know as well as I do we are all talking about how you were complaining that the bundles were too much, and how that was "corporate greed" because you can't dictate the terms of how these toys are sold.

Ummmmmm, no. You need to work on your comprehension skills. I never EVER complained about the bundles being too much. The prices _I_ objected to are the aftermarket prices I would have to pay to buy these figures on eBay and whatnot, the only way I can get these variants without buying an extra Wii or extra game. I didn't try to weasel out of anything, I was trying to help you understand the points I made that you continue to insist on misunderstanding. My stances have not wavered in the slightest. Doesn't it seem strange that I'm talking about $10 when no bundle anywhere is $10? What idiot would expect to pay $10 for a game system bundle???!!?!?!? You can't even get the Portal Master pack - no portal, only one figure and the game - for that much! And the $80 is how much most figures I see on Amazon showing up for. Again, just the figure, no bundles.

The "corporate greed" I refer to are the tactics they're using to pump up demand. Like delaying release of certain figures. Like not shipping much to the stores. Like making rare variants even more rare by including them in bundles that many people can't use (again, barring the whole "sell what I don't need" concept). Which in the end is short sighted of them, they would sell more Gnarly Tree Rexs if they WERE bundled separately! But instead, they choose to use tactics designed to whip up demand to a frenzy.

(Since you're intellectually stuck on the concept that I ever complained about the price of any bundles, I'll skip the rest of your misguided argument)

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You want things to be unequal and unfair in your favor. Too bad, they have the same rights you do. Seriously, enough with the greedy complaining. You don't want things to be fair, you just want things.

Weird how all I say is that I wish things were fair and that these variants were available to everybody, and somehow you twist it to claim I just want things for myself and I'm being greedy. No. Just no. Seriously, I really DO wish that these figures were available to everybody, not just me. I know I'm not the only one who finds these variants to be unavailable, I know I'm not the only one who would like to get them. After all, if they DID release these guys in a way accessible to everybody, I certainly wouldn't be getting them all anyway. I know I'm just not lucky enough to manage to find all available variants when I happen to be in the appropriate stores. It's like a 1 in 100 shot (at least) PER FIGURE. It's just that my chances now are 0 in 100, I'm just wishing for a chance.

And again, I am demanding NOTHING. I've simply been expressing a wish that their distribution method for certain variants was more equitable. The way I bought Legendary Bouncer and the Golden Dragonfire Cannon was perfect. I was in the right store at the right time, grabbed them off the shelf, nothing with them which was useless to me. They're still exclusive, still special, but available to anybody, no factors to discourage buying like coming with a game system I already own. That's all. I wouldn't even really call this a complaint, it's more a mere irritant, a gripe. I certainly understand why they did it, as an extra incentive to get people to buy the system (which indubitably is in conjunction with Nintendo, so both companies benefit). All I'm doing is pointing out that this makes them unavailable to most of us, everybody who plays on a different system, everybody who already owns a Wii (I happen to be both).

Well, this thread has turned dark. As Charlie Brown's sister Sally would say "All I want is what's coming to me...all I want is my fair share."

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No, not really. See, while it is technically true, I am saying that already owning the particular system is a deterrant to buying the bundles, and am considering it as a reason I CAN'T buy the bundle, that it is unreasonable to do so, it is too extreme (excepting of course the technique already discussed, of reselling what you don't want).

Never claimed it was dishonest. Unjust, perhaps though. I'm just talking about being fair and making things available to everybody, not just the people who HAPPEN to not own a Wii yet, but still want one. True, we know what we're getting, I never claimed otherwise. They do indeed have the right to sell their toys however they want, and they are luxury goods. I never claimed otherwise. Just because they can sell them however they want doesn't mean I can't wish it was more fair. It is perfectly legitimate to sell toys in a bundle, again I never claimed otherwise, I just expressed a regret that IN that bundle are toys that aren't available to anybody else (again, I'm counting "already have a Wii" as a reason that this bundle is unavailable, at least under reasonable circumstances)

Let me repeat myself, and the dictionary - the definition of "fair" is

1. free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice: a fair decision
2. legitimately sought, pursued, done, given, etc.; proper under the rules

That, again, means that you are claiming bias, dishonesty, or injustice every time you say "it's not fair". You need to improve your reading skills a bit.


Quote: niceguy1

Ummmmmm, no. You need to work on your comprehension skills. I never EVER complained about the bundles being too much. The prices _I_ objected to are the aftermarket prices I would have to pay to buy these figures on eBay and whatnot, the only way I can get these variants without buying an extra Wii or extra game. I didn't try to weasel out of anything, Doesn't it seem strange that I'm talking about $10 when no bundle anywhere is $10? What idiot would expect to pay $10 for a game system bundle???!!?!?!? You can't even get the Portal Master pack - no portal, only one figure and the game - for that much! And the $80 is how much most figures I see on Amazon showing up for. Again, just the figure, no bundles.

Oh, you aren't complaining about the bundles, huh? Of course you will say that now that I told you those bundles keep people employed. You should consider running for office, this kind of dishonesty shouldn't be wasted. You see . . .

Quote: niceguy1

The "corporate greed" I refer to are the tactics they're using to pump up demand. Like delaying release of certain figures. Like not shipping much to the stores. Like making rare variants even more rare by including them in bundles that many people can't use (again, barring the whole "sell what I don't need" concept). Which in the end is short sighted of them, they would sell more Gnarly Tree Rexs if they WERE bundled separately! But instead, they choose to use tactics designed to whip up demand to a frenzy.

(Since you're intellectually stuck on the concept that I ever complained about the price of any bundles, I'll skip the rest of your misguided argument)

. . .in the next paragraph you are again complaining about the bundles! And no, it is not unfair. You saw the definition of that word above. Let me explain to you what unfair REALLY is. When someone is denied the right to vote because of their skin color, THAT is unfair. When a woman isn't allowed to drive or go to school just for her gender, THAT is unfair. When someone has their identity stolen and their credit wrecked, THAT is unfair. The fact that a toy is selling for more than you are willing to pay for it because it is part of a bundle - that is just you being greedy.

Oh, and the only reason you are "skipping" the rest of my response is you obviously don't have an answer. Heck, in the first paragraph, you couldn't even answer what I actually said, you cut out the definition of fair to try to spin it. Just like how you can't answer why you getting toys is more important than someone else keeping their job.

Quote: niceguy1

Weird how all I say is that I wish things were fair and that these variants were available to everybody, and somehow you twist it to claim I just want things for myself and I'm being greedy. No. Just no. Seriously, I really DO wish that these figures were available to everybody, not just me. I know I'm not the only one who finds these variants to be unavailable, I know I'm not the only one who would like to get them. After all, if they DID release these guys in a way accessible to everybody, I certainly wouldn't be getting them all anyway. I know I'm just not lucky enough to manage to find all available variants when I happen to be in the appropriate stores. It's like a 1 in 100 shot (at least) PER FIGURE. It's just that my chances now are 0 in 100, I'm just wishing for a chance.

And again, I am demanding NOTHING. I've simply been expressing a wish that their distribution method for certain variants was more equitable. The way I bought Legendary Bouncer and the Golden Dragonfire Cannon was perfect. I was in the right store at the right time, grabbed them off the shelf, nothing with them which was useless to me. They're still exclusive, still special, but available to anybody, no factors to discourage buying like coming with a game system I already own. That's all. I wouldn't even really call this a complaint, it's more a mere irritant, a gripe. I certainly understand why they did it, as an extra incentive to get people to buy the system (which indubitably is in conjunction with Nintendo, so both companies benefit). All I'm doing is pointing out that this makes them unavailable to most of us, everybody who plays on a different system, everybody who already owns a Wii (I happen to be both).

You really need to improve your reading comprehension. There is nothing biased, dishonest, or unjust (in other words, unfair, which you have said ad nauseum) about Activision including them in a bundle. Again, nothing about the bundle makes these toys unavailable to you. The fact that you consider that the bundle including things you don't want as "excluding you" does not make it true. You could consider a dog to be a bird if you want, that doesn't mean the dog is suddenly going to sprout wings and fly. Since no one is barring you from buying them, you are NOT excluded, you just find the price for those toys to be too high. There is nothing unfair about it. They set a price, you are unwilling to pay it, that's as fair as can be. It just means more money (or effort if you sell off what you don't want, like I and a number of other people did) than you want to put in. Oh that's right -

Quote: niceguy1

Agreed, this is a reasonable option. Just that it's more effort and risk than I'm comfortable with.

Convenient how you left that out, again.

And for the record, I want the variants just as much as you, maybe more. However, I'm not going to get mad if I can't get them. I have just as much chance as everyone else, and if it doesn't happen, it's not the end of the world.

I don't know how far away from high school you are, but when you graduate from it, you should consider joining the military. The U.S. military if possible, since we get around a bit more to other parts of the world. I know we had a few Canadian guys on my ship. You will see what unfair really is when you see some of the dirt poor places in the world I've seen.

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Ummm....so, any known timeframes for these variants? LOL

Well, UncleBob confirmed a member who works at Walmart's post that Molten Dog is coming out March 1st.

No clue about Jadewing one though.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

That, again, means that you are claiming bias, dishonesty, or injustice every time you say "it's not fair". You need to improve your reading skills a bit.

FYI, I cut out the definition the first time - and now again - because I don't need it, I'm using the word "fair" perfectly correctly (also for brevity, these posts are massive), and it's a little brainless of you to turn to quoting the dictionary just because you can't find any other way to counter what I say than to try to claim that I'm using the word incorrectly.

Since you obviously aren't going to understand how it applies unless I actually use one of the magic words in your quoted definition, I'll say the SAME THING again using one: This decision to include variants in these bundles is BIASED against people who already own the system in question, as well as people who play the game on another system. There, I used "bias". Does that now clarify for you how the word "fair" applies?

Quote: SSj3 Derek

Oh, you aren't complaining about the bundles, huh? Of course you will say that now that I told you those bundles keep people employed. You should consider running for office, this kind of dishonesty shouldn't be wasted. You see . . .

See, there you go, proving again that you need some serious help with your comprehension. I said I never complained about the PRICE of the bundles. My complaints are indeed about bundles, but just that they put variants in there where they are unavailable to others. Yes, I know, they are not "technically" unavailable, we can buy them if we wish. I'm just saying that this isn't enough for it to be classified as "fair" in my books, that having to buy a system you don't need makes it unavailable. See, I absolutely *hate* waste, and buying a system I already own means that system is going to waste - again, barring reselling.

No, I don't say that "now", I've been saying the same thing all along. People who change their tunes like that are just idiots, and I pride myself in standing by what I say. Since you are sounding more and more moronic with each post, you need to stop posting until you go back and reread things, and realize that I truly never complained about the price of the bundles, that nothing I complained about would have any effect on "keeping people employed". Yes, even if I was some all-powerful being who could and would make this happen, it still would have no effect whatsoever on people's income or their jobs. Period.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

. . .in the next paragraph you are again complaining about the bundles!

Yes, because that's all I've been saying all along. Again, you are confusing price and income with my true complaint: content. I am bothered that the bundles include variants, ones which are unavailable otherwise. If they put NORMAL Tree Rex in with the Wii bundle, I'd have nothing to say against it. The difference is that your argument is about the company making money and paying people, neither of which is affected by my complaints. I never said I thought they should charge less, or not make the bundles at all. My thoughts would have no effect on people's income or jobs. Companies have to make money, people have to make a living.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

Let me explain to you what unfair REALLY is. When someone is denied the right to vote because of their skin color, THAT is unfair. When a woman isn't allowed to drive or go to school just for her gender, THAT is unfair. When someone has their identity stolen and their credit wrecked, THAT is unfair. The fact that a toy is selling for more than you are willing to pay for it because it is part of a bundle - that is just you being greedy.

OH MY GOD that is so weak and pathetic! Turning towards the "first world problems" argument! Of COURSE this crap doesn't compare to real problems! Just because it's not a true problem I have no right to consider it a problem? Only an idiot wouldn't realize that such things are more important than figure variants. The difference here is that most people might be cowed by that, while I won't let you get away with such garbage. It's just a cheap trick because you probably know I'm right, but you insist on stubbornly sticking to your stance (as evidenced by your continued insistance on arguing me on points I never made and stances I never took)

Quote: SSj3 Derek

Oh, and the only reason you are "skipping" the rest of my response is you obviously don't have an answer.

No. Are you really THAT blind? I skipped the rest of your crap because you were arguing on an invalid tangent, that I had complained about the price, which I never did. I felt saying "I didn't complain about the price" 10 times over was unnecessary. Sorry for overestimating you, I thought you could comprehend that everything I cut would have a response of "I didn't complain about the price". And again, these posts are massive, I cut what I can in the interests of brevity.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

Just like how you can't answer why you getting toys is more important than someone else keeping their job.

Another invalid argument, you really love those. Again, me (or anyone else) getting certain toys has nothing to do with people keeping their jobs. They would still sell for the same prices. The only people who would miss out financially are scalpers. People clearing out shelves just to resell. I won't buy these variants from them, I'm not willing to pay scalpers hundreds of dollars to get a $15 figure.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

You really need to improve your reading comprehension. There is nothing biased, dishonest, or unjust (in other words, unfair, which you have said ad nauseum) about Activision including them in a bundle. Again, nothing about the bundle makes these toys unavailable to you.

Funny how the person with reading comprehension problems is accusing me of it. As the saying goes, that's like the pot calling the kettle black. I've already said how this is biased, if I need to repeat myself, just scroll up instead. And yes, they're unavailable. I know they aren't technically, but as I've said, getting them is beyond what is really reasonable circumstances. Making them unavailable under reasonable circumstances, which for me is enough to declare them unavailable.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

The fact that you consider that the bundle including things you don't want as "excluding you" does not make it true. [...cut out the nonsense...] Since no one is barring you from buying them, you are NOT excluded, you just find the price for those toys to be too high.

This isn't "don't want", this is "can't use". I find the difference significant. See, if I simply didn't want it, that's not enough of a deterrant. That's why I have 2 Cynders, 2 Gill Grunts, 2 Chop Chops. I bought their packages because I wanted the rest, and the doubles aren't useless. "Can't use" makes the extra system a waste, and I can't stand waste. I CAN'T USE that Wii, because I already have a Wii. There's nothing I could do on that Blue Wii that I can't do on my Black Wii.

(See? Need brevity, my reply was nearly 3,000 characters over the limit)

And this is not about price, either. If I was spending $200 or whatever just on a figure, yeah, that's more than they're worth (to me, anyway). But in addition to the figure that money buys a whole game system, a control, as well as the game. Between all the hardware, it's certainly worth it I'm sure. I made a similar argument about people complaining that the sidekicks aren't worth $30, I had to point out that the sidekick is FREE with a $30 purchase, that you still get the $30-worth of merchandise.

Quote: SSj3 Derek

Convenient how you left that out, again.

I left it out because I know what I said, and I stand by it (and again, keeping things brief). But even if I was willing to sell off the extra stuff - and I've said I'll probably do exactly that - I still feel that these measures are beyond what's reasonable, what would make this equal. The people who could use this bundle have an advantage, they don't have to risk money they may not get back, they're keeping the system. They don't have to go through the effort of finding a buyer, or of shipping it off. They have it easier. How is this not biased in their favour?

Quote: SSj3 Derek

And for the record, I want the variants just as much as you, maybe more. However, I'm not going to get mad if I can't get them. I have just as much chance as everyone else, and if it doesn't happen, it's not the end of the world.

Whoever said I got mad? I expressed an opinion, a wish for things being different. On this, I agree with every word you said right here (except "just as much chance" of course. We have a chance, but it's not exactly equal).

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I don't know how far away from high school you are, but when you graduate from it, you should consider joining the military. The U.S. military if possible, since we get around a bit more to other parts of the world. I know we had a few Canadian guys on my ship. You will see what unfair really is when you see some of the dirt poor places in the world I've seen.

Again, weak argument, trying to imply I'm in elementary school, not even in high school, while it's been quite clear I'm well beyond high school and am clearly older and wiser than you, and probably more worldly. And again, the "see dirt poor places" thing is a failed argument, it's a cheap ploy to distract from the discussion at hand. The fact that this issue pales in comparison to real problems doesn't make it not a problem, it just makes it unimportant by comparison. If I had to choose between getting every variant and ending hunger in one village, I of course would choose the village. Who wouldn't? It doesn't mean "dirt poor places" has any place in this discussion. If I get a variant it doesn't mean these dirt poor places have any less food or money, or that they'll have more if I'm denied variants, or that they're affected in any way. Cheap ploy. Be better than that.

WOW!!! What a topic!! I clicked on it to see if there's any Jade Flashwing info (since it's confirmed Molten is out March 1 at Walmart) but it looks like there's no new info about her...!! lol

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WOW!!! What a topic!! I clicked on it to see if there's any Jade Flashwing info (since it's confirmed Molten is out March 1 at Walmart) but it looks like there's no new info about her...!! lol

I realize some aren't believing me, but Jade Flashwing will be at Target in mid-march as an exclusive.

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Quote: Shroomy_Boomy

WOW!!! What a topic!! I clicked on it to see if there's any Jade Flashwing info (since it's confirmed Molten is out March 1 at Walmart) but it looks like there's no new info about her...!! lol

I realize some aren't believing me, but Jade Flashwing will be at Target in mid-march as an exclusive.

This is false. There is no mention of Jade Flashwing in any upcoming merchandise reports for Target.

You think it's false?
Trust me. I don't need merch reports to verify my information.
You go to Target on St. Patricks Day, she will be on the shelves. When you look at the March 17th Weekly ad front cover.... she'll be mentioned on the cover, and shown prominently inside.
and it's an exclusive for Target. She won't be anywhere else.

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You think it's false?
Trust me. I don't need merch reports to verify my information.
You go to Target on St. Patricks Day, she will be on the shelves. When you look at the March 17th Weekly ad front cover.... she'll be mentioned on the cover, and shown prominently inside.
and it's an exclusive for Target. She won't be anywhere else.

Not saying it won't be exclusive.
But the fact that you are basing it off of Saint Patricks day is hilarious.

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Besides, just because you choose not to sell the Wii system and starter pack on eBay to remake the entire cost of the Gnarly bundle, it doesn't mean the option isn't available to you. This is not a $150 toy. Heck, I MADE $40 when I got my Gnarly, because I sold everything else off.

So you sold your Wii for $200 that you bought for $150 and kept Gnarly?

I sold the Wii for $130 (go figure...), the copy of Giants by itself for $30, Jet-Vac and Cynder for $8.50 each, and the portal for $12.

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I sold the Wii for $130 (go figure...), the copy of Giants by itself for $30, Jet-Vac and Cynder for $8.50 each, and the portal for $12.

Ughh, I doubt anyone would want to buy a Wii (plus I don't know many people with 100$ lying around let alone 150! and who doens't already own a Wii).