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The Official Skylanders PROTOTYPE Thread [STICKY]
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#101 Posted: 01:18:32 26/11/2012
Oh this is by far one of the most interesting threads on here. Im always into learning something new and the stages skylanders figures are created is something ive been following since I learned of the variants last december. I applaud you for this thread.
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#102 Posted: 03:25:44 27/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Well... Glumby01 has just listed some more prototypes that he received from the same Chinese seller as before. Although the clear Stealth Elf isn't anything new...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/glumby...984.m1543.l2654

Have a look at the Chill. Does that look like "orange" lips? Nice crystal hand too!

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#103 Posted: 14:14:18 27/11/2012
dat neck
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#104 Posted: 02:49:24 28/11/2012
Quote: DluA
@Okaps: Could you post a pic or two of your green-bottom-less Sunburn?


I bought it from http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19325732364
He's cut up now :u I'm going to articulate him this week if I'm not too busy again hopefully. The lack of the green bottom is the only notable difference.
Or did you want pictures of the base bottom? I can get some of those later but the rest of him won't be there :3
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#105 Posted: 05:30:54 28/11/2012
I don't know but most of the "prototypes" listing on EBay (this time and last time) merely look like incomplete run items, possibly run tests, rather than actual prototypes?
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#106 Posted: 06:05:48 28/11/2012 | Topic Creator
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For the purposes of this thread, I would like to request that the definition of a Skylander Prototype be:
a one of a kind figure that was molded and painted by Toys for Bob (Activision), but NOT released to the media or for retail.

Two examples that would NOT be Prototypes based upon this definition are:
1.) 2011 E3's, such as Trigger Happy/Gill Grunt/Spyro in the original packaging
2.) Custom figures that were either articulated or painted


Yeah, I hear what you're saying about the term "prototype." I don't claim to be an expert on prototypes, but am trying to learn as I collect Skylanders. There are probably better terms and expressions that I could use, but "prototype" becomes the catch all phrase I suppose.

As a result of my inexperience, I definitely look to people like Glumby01 for advice. He's been doing this for some time. He has a reputuation in the GI Joe toy community. He expressed to me his "reputation" is something he openly appreciates and works hard to protect. While some of his listings wouldn't fit this threads exact definition of one of a kind items, things like the clear stumpy and slam bam i believe qualify. Things like the unpainted Sidekicks and such while perhaps not prototypes, are still things that I as a collector have yet to see in little over a year.
They remind me of some of the unpainted production figures in this picture:
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#107 Posted: 08:30:47 28/11/2012
^ after seeing that photo i'm definitely saying that the figures being sold are unpainted production figures and not prototypes.

still nice to have as collector though.
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#108 Posted: 09:11:42 28/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: t7gga
^ after see that photo i'm definitely saying that the figures being sold are unpainted production figures and not prototypes.

still nice to have as collector though.


The pic came from this article:

http://www.ripten.com/2012/10/...-sales-preview/

Given your wide ranging collection t7gga, I figured some of these would interest you. smilie

I've got more pics to share regarding some of these that have yet to be seen, just want to present them with their factory release figures side by side for immediate comparison.
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#109 Posted: 22:19:45 30/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Not the best pic in the world, but here's another pretty cool prototype of Prism Break. I remember when Cynder was the first of the clear crystal ice variants to be posted online, many speculated that a clear PB would be one of the others released. Well as we now know, that didn't happen, but Activision certainly tinkered with concepts such as this one! I think it's VERY COOL!

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#110 Posted: 22:27:53 30/11/2012
^ That should have been the final Clear Variant, instead of Wham Shell.

Anyway: DO WANT!
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#111 Posted: 22:31:59 30/11/2012 | Topic Creator
I know right! Which one do you like better as a proto? Ice Stumpy or Ice Prism Break???

That's tough. I really like both!!!
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#112 Posted: 22:32:52 30/11/2012
what do you use for cutting plastic?
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#113 Posted: 22:35:31 30/11/2012 | Topic Creator
I didn't mold or create this. It is a genuine prototype from China. I wouldn't begin to have the skills or tools to create this.
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#114 Posted: 22:47:54 30/11/2012
I think Prism would have been a better idea than Stumpy.
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#115 Posted: 23:34:25 30/11/2012 | Topic Creator
Hmmmm. Still can't decide yet. Something about the Ice Stumpy that is breathtaking! LOL. That sounds weird! Although, I'm looking forward to getting better pics of PB too. I'll let others weigh in on this one...

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#116 Posted: 23:44:17 30/11/2012
^ has anyone pulled off some of the flocking on a flocked stump smash to see what is underneath?
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#117 Posted: 23:46:54 30/11/2012
I think it has a clear plastic like the Prism Break.


Also, the Clear Stealth Elf is indeed a prototype, since it has a lighter green broken base.
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#118 Posted: 00:10:23 01/12/2012 | Topic Creator
I would be happy to, but I only have one and don't want to ruin it for collecting purposes. Anybody have a spare they can experiment on and report back with including pictures???
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#119 Posted: 00:12:36 01/12/2012
By using a flashlight, look inside his mouth, it looks like regular, cheap, white plastic.


I don't want to tear him apart, since he's worth about $30.00, BUT I have 2 of them, and can trade them for a PROTOTYPE! smilie
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#120 Posted: 00:56:55 01/12/2012 | Topic Creator
The FSS eyes' are painted the same as a regular SS, leading me to believe that it's a regular SS underneath. When I look at a FSS, I can see the white backing of the flocked material especially around the cutout of it's eyes. The mouth cutout is so small, I can't really determine anything.

Who wants to confirm this by performing stumpy skin surgery??? smilie
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#121 Posted: 09:37:07 01/12/2012
like yourself i only have 1 flocked stump smash so i'm not in a position to make him naked
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#122 Posted: 23:32:42 01/12/2012 | Topic Creator
I don't always see all of the threads that have prototype information in them. I noticed this video of a hacker, hacking SG and introducing the prototype character of "Sniper" or "Buckshot" not sure which at the 2:28 mark? WARNING: And... yes... it also shows Thumpback in game in the beginning of the video. At any rate, if anyone finds prototype stuff like this, I'd appreciate you posting it in this thread for others to discover. Thanks!

//forum.darkspyro.net/spyro/viewposts.php?topic=67146

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#123 Posted: 05:42:12 04/12/2012
So the latest batch of prototypes have sold, any winners amongst the folks here for them?
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#124 Posted: 12:02:55 04/12/2012 | Topic Creator
Between the 1st and 2nd lots of "prototypes" that were sold by Glumby01, the same buyer won all but 2 auctions... The Slam Bam and Whisper Elf protos.

If the winner of the majority of the auctions is a member of this forum, would love to hear from you. I think it's important to try and archive who has what and get people's reviews and opinions of those who actually own them.

- We know that Okaps and Kung Fu Man each have a Crystal Clear Stumpy proto, along with the winner of the initial auction.
- I will reveal that I won the Slam Bam auction, but no others. In addition, I have a complete set of Sidekick protos, the Crystal Clear Prism Break pictured above, and a Series 2 Terrafin proto.
- Kung Fu Man also has at least 2 of the Sidekick protos.

What am I missing?
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#125 Posted: 00:48:31 05/12/2012
Oh so you were the one I was in bid war with over the slam bamsmilie
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#126 Posted: 01:02:50 05/12/2012
DANG! I was in line to get Terrafin and Terrabite, but I got sniped.
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#127 Posted: 02:48:37 05/12/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: lucidity0001
Oh so you were the one I was in bid war with over the slam bamsmilie


Trust me, I wish I hadn't been. While I love SB, I really don't like to have to compete with others for a desirable collectible. My wife and my wallet tend to not approve! smilie


Quote: Matteomax
DANG! I was in line to get Terrafin and Terrabite, but I got sniped.


I've been on both sides of the sniping coin. Amazing how the last 5 seconds of an auction can be so DRAMA filled!!!
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#128 Posted: 00:18:16 06/12/2012
No me too I completely understand. I just said screw it. I had a feeling it was you thoughsmilie My car needs a new set of tires anywaysmilie
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#129 Posted: 01:13:15 06/12/2012 | Topic Creator
My review of Crystal Clear Ice Prism Break

Photo Gallery: http://s1271.beta.photobucket....149676484936835

Background: It came from the same Chinese seller on Taobao as the other recent auctions did. The seller had another clear PB but the mold on that one obviously didn't set correctly and the figure appears warped especially compared next to the one I purchased. http://i1271.photobucket.com/a...gejpeg_2_16.jpg

Apperance: Similar to what was reported with the Crystal Clear Stump Smashes, this clear PB has a yellowish hue to it. It really depends upon the lighting as you can see in the pictures I've included. The detail on this clear PB is dead on with the detail from a factory PB. The only slight variances that I see are the crystal prisms on the clear PB. The prisms in his hands are just slightly offset to either direction when compared with the factory PB. This, however, seems to be fairly common even when comparing factory PB's to one another. The prisms on the clear PB's shoulders appear different in the pictures, however, after careful comparison, they are quite similar.

Hardware: As has been the case with most prototypes, there is no RFID chip within the base, therefore, it doesn't work in game. The green base on the bottom is the same as the factory comparison, except that the clear PB's base has a lighter shade of green color to it. The embossed Model # is 84180888 and is the same on both figures.

Summary: After careful comparison, I believe this to be an authentic prototype. The level of detail is just so amazingly similar to a factory PB. I am really happy to have it in my collection!

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#130 Posted: 12:19:00 06/12/2012
I want it.. Any plans to sell it? smilie
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#131 Posted: 12:35:32 06/12/2012 | Topic Creator
I'm afraid not my friend. Already had others asking to buy it, but I'm not looking to sell anytime soon...
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#132 Posted: 12:37:12 06/12/2012
Contact me when you want to. smilie
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#133 Posted: 05:59:42 09/12/2012 | Topic Creator
My Review of Sidekick Unpainted Factory Samples from Activision

Photo Gallery http://s1271.beta.photobucket....180001009687864

Background: These also came from the same Chinese seller on Taobao as the other recent auctions did. Several of these were sold to various people via Taobao and eBay.

Appearance: These appear to me to be unpainted samples from the Chinese Activision factory. The detail and colored plastic is an exact match when compared to the Frito Lay promotional Sidekicks. The bases are fairly similar to the factory Sidekicks, except for the Terra Bite and Trigger Snappy bases. These were the lone Sidekick bases painted prior to the assembly process.

Hardware: As has been the case lately, there are no RFID chips within the bases, therefore, they don't work in game.

Summary: I find it pretty interesting to better understand how these and other Skylanders are being assembled. It would appear based upon the figures that have shown up recently, that the majority of figures are molded with colored plastic to start (and not painted), then painted, and then assembled. I'm sure there are other steps involved, but you get the gist. Although these things do next to nothing in the game, they do have a certain charm to them. I wish I had an extra set of samples, I'd probably try and customize them...

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#134 Posted: 15:32:22 09/12/2012
Darn, you got the Terrabite one? I was gonna get that. It looked like it had crap on it, though.
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#135 Posted: 04:13:40 10/12/2012
Well if anyone's interested in one of these, I am selling off my spare Gill Runt here. Also managed to completely restore the Stump Smash toy too, plugging a base and RFID chip into his old glue after using a blowdryer on it.
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#136 Posted: 05:15:54 10/12/2012
Cant we just buy it directly?
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#137 Posted: 08:41:34 10/12/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: Kung Fu Man
Well if anyone's interested in one of these, I am selling off my spare Gill Runt here. Also managed to completely restore the Stump Smash toy too, plugging a base and RFID chip into his old glue after using a blowdryer on it.



Nice! I'm sure it looks great on the portal!

I attempted to do the exact same thing on my SB, but the base is quite warped and broken in a spot, so putting on a newer base isn't quite meshing together. Unfortunately, i think I'll leave it as is for now.. I don't want to break the base the figure stands upon. I'm so tempted to mod my clear PB, but that base is in tact and i didn't want to damage what came to me in perfect condition.
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#138 Posted: 02:56:11 11/12/2012 | Topic Creator
Well... my fellow Prototype enthusiasts (and naysayers) smilie

I have just received written confirmation, that the Clear Ice Stump Smash(s),Clear Ice Prism Break(s), and Slam Bam figures are indeed AUTHENTIC Activision Prototypes!!! This was confirmed by a TFB employee who works within the QA department. He was able to confirm this by contacting his counterpart(s) at the Activision factory in China. He mentioned that the 2 clear Ice prototypes were in fact created to decide which would be the final three clear variants. In addition, the Slam Bam was initially proposed with the white plastic, until the final production decided upon the translucent blue plastic. He was also quick to point out that these are NOT TFB prototypes, but rather ACTIVISION prototypes.

This is fantastic news for those of us who were able to get our hands on these! Congratulations to all who did! These may quite possibly be the rarest Skylanders ever found in a personal collection.

Note: Out of respect for the TFB employee and to honor his wishes, I will neither forward the written confirmation, nor announce his name or position.

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#139 Posted: 03:05:02 11/12/2012
Why would this person be reticient to allow you to provide proof? I am not crying shenanigans, per se, but it is is a valid question...
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#140 Posted: 03:20:50 11/12/2012 | Topic Creator
I can't speak for this person, but his exact comment in his reply to me was;

Quote:
Feel free to convey this information, just no need to cut and paste my exact text or quote me on this.


I suspect part of the reason is because this TFB employee is an actual member of this forum. He mentioned this in another reply to me;

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I do spend about an hour almost every day here in the forums, and have been for the last year, just checking on interest, reviews, favorite toys and levels, as well as reported issues on the games. Feel free to tell people you talked to me, but no need to give out my email address to everyone.


Perhaps he will supply the answer to your question himself?
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#141 Posted: 00:13:04 18/12/2012
I bought the Gill Runt for $30.00!
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#142 Posted: 04:18:42 18/12/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: Matteomax
I bought the Gill Runt for $30.00!


Sweet! Congrats!

This is what the TFB rep said about the Sidekicks in his message to me;

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I asked about the unpainted Sidekicks as well and those look like unpainted factory toys. My personal guess is non-Activision guess is they were probably smuggled out of the factories some late night by some worker and sold. But I don't know for sure.


I tend to agree with his assessment as well.

As it happens, I actually have spares of the other three unpainted Sidekicks, that would give you a complete unpainted set! Hmmmm... the plot thickens!
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#143 Posted: 15:03:43 22/12/2012
Interesting. So the unpainted sidekick figures aren't really prototypes, they're more test shots. Would explain the markings and why so many exist.
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#144 Posted: 18:18:12 28/12/2012 | Topic Creator
Found a couple of new photos that I hadn't come across...

I really like the tech giant proto, I believe it was a Bouncer proto.
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Pretty interesting Sonic Boom protos as well...
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#145 Posted: 16:23:22 30/12/2012
↑ She was orange? And them machines... are they prototypes of adventure packs?
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#146 Posted: 16:35:00 30/12/2012
Quote: t7gga
^ has anyone pulled off some of the flocking on a flocked stump smash to see what is underneath?


It's just a plain Stumpy. You can kind of see this in the unflocked back of his mouth, and definitely under the fur. Have had a one-year-old chew on our opened one, so there can be no mistaking it. He's not painted aside from the eyes though.
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#147 Posted: 01:15:46 31/12/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: LegendaryFlames
↑ She was orange? And them machines... are they prototypes of adventure packs?



Yes! Apparently, TFB created an orange Sonic Boom during development.

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As far as machines, and other non figure items. There are all kinds of pictures floating around of prototype Skylander stuff. Not necessarily meant for Adventure packs...


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#148 Posted: 02:41:29 31/12/2012
Interesting things in the pictures:

Prototype Ghost Roaster; unpainted. (Bottom)

Prototype Magic items: Most noteable the SWAT! Lantern from Skylanders Universe. (Bottom)

Cheezy looking prototype Pirate Seas piece. (Top)

Random unpainted figure parts. (Bottom)

Small bases that have an Ahnk symbol on them. (Middle)

The 3 Drobot Protos. (Top)

What looks like an unpainted Zap prototype. (Bottom)

Portal prototypes. (Middle)
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#149 Posted: 02:51:35 31/12/2012
Too late for prototypes.............
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#150 Posted: 02:53:01 31/12/2012
It's never too late... I own a Prototype/unpainted Gill Runt courtesy of Kung Fu Man!
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