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Most of you may already know that Spyro and Cynder didn't really grow up in DotD. Here's an email reply I got from Chris Wilson last year, explaining about the changes of the last installment of the trilogy. I posted this confirmation on the other Spyro forum last year also, but didn't bother posting it here until now.

Why else do they still look smaller than the Guardians?

Regarding your question, when we began working with the new team at EL, we took the opportunity to explore different looks and "ages" for Spyro and Cynder. We also had to make some changes to allow for the new gameplay features, such as needing larger wings to work with the flight feature and to allow the characters to block with their wings. The team came up with a variety of concepts and we settled on what you see in DotD. We didn't want to change it too much, but it was a good opportunity to allow the characters to grow up a bit (just like many of the fans were growing up too). It was also a good time to make this change given that it was the 10 year anniversarry for the Franchise. Had we made the game with Krome, its difficult to say what would have happened, but I'm sure there would have still been some changes. Since this was the first time Spyro was on the next-generation consoles, we had to update the model to take advantage of the new technology on the PS3 and Xbox 360.

Its what I thought indeed.

well, he changed more in shape than size...

Still, Sierra purposely made a plothole.

I don't know about you guys, but I've noticed that Spyro looks a bit like they chopped him up into equal pieces and glued him back together. Just look at the DotD cover.

Quote: Dragon Lover

I don't know about you guys, but I've noticed that Spyro looks a bit like they chopped him up into equal pieces and glued him back together. Just look at the DotD cover.

lol so true o.o he looks so wierd in DoTD, your right about the cover ,there are lines on his back that make him look chopped ,even tho its supposed to be some sort of scales ... he looks like he has some sort of skin disease@_@
http://www.inside-360.de/wp-co...-the-dragon.jpg
Is it just me or does kinda look like he's been wraped in plastic or something =/
Anyway the whole design change EL made for DoTD is kinda dumb imo,
Maybe since it was supposed to be something UberEPIC they wanted to make him seem less cartoony and more realistic and grown up (even if he didn't grow)..blaah ,and thus creating another plothole...

Also on the box Spyro has a extra toe nail

I loved Spyro's desighn in DotD, but this is what i think of it: Yes, he does look like he was rapped in plastic because he wa so shiny(but its only in a few places eg: In the picKimbia28 posted.), i also think Spyro looks like he has big kiss ready lips(There so figgen huge!), but i still think he looks really cute. In my opion it was his cutest form yet.(Aside for Krome's vesoin)

I respect your oppinion and I agree on the mouth lol it looks funny xP

omg there achully some one on this site that can take in other ppl's oppinions! Sorry i just had to do that. But thak you for respecting my oppinion. But srsly they look like he had plastic sugery on them! Spyro's the new MJ!

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Also on the box Spyro has a extra toe nail

Lmao!! After seeing that post I looked on the box and it seems like he does! But I think it's another finger. (Doesn't he have four?)

He has 3 toes in the game and 4 on the box

Quote: Ice Dragoness

He has 3 toes in the game and 4 on the box

He does? Hm. I always thought he had four. I'll check into it. Sometime.

In DotD they look like they're wraped on plastic
But, they were trapped ''just'' 3 years. I think they wouldn't grow up that much.

They wouldn't grow at all since they were stuck in some time crystal thingy ,
But the change itself is more becouse of the gameplay and they wanted to make them seem a bit older becouse of it's dark story,drama and stuff...

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They wouldn't grow at all since they were stuck in some time crystal thingy ,
But the change itself is more becouse of the gameplay and they wanted to make them seem a bit older becouse of it's dark story,drama and stuff...

Actually, you usually grow in your sleep. Perhaps maybe they grew inside the crystal? It could've expanded as they grew.

yea you do grow in ur sleep but your not stuck in a giant time crystal hehexDD, but yeh who knows

Yeah it would be kinda hard to grow inside a gigantic crystal...

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Since this was the first time Spyro was on the next-generation consoles, we had to update the model to take advantage of the new technology on the PS3 and Xbox 360.[/i]

First off, TEN was on the Wii, a next-gen console (real smooth, Chris). Second off, allow me to present the scoreboard:

Next-Gen Technology: 1
Spyro: 0

*waves foam finger*

Quote: HIR

Quote: Aura24

Since this was the first time Spyro was on the next-generation consoles, we had to update the model to take advantage of the new technology on the PS3 and Xbox 360.[/i]

First off, TEN was on the Wii, a next-gen console (real smooth, Chris). Second off, allow me to present the scoreboard:

Next-Gen Technology: 1
Spyro: 0

*waves foam finger*

But the Wii does not have next-generation graphical power.

^ dont diss wiis! O:

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^ dont diss wiis! O:

I only stated fact, the Wii does not have next-generation graphical capablilities and therefore did not have the "new technology" that made the XBox 360 and PS3 good canidates for a model update.

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Quote: Ice Dragoness

^ dont diss wiis! O:

I only stated fact, the Wii does not have next-generation graphical capablilities and therefore did not have the "new technology" that made the XBox 360 and PS3 good canidates for a model update.

I agree. No offense, but I never liked the Wii in the first place.

^ except for super mario galaxy!!!!! and TEN (because my PS2 version is all mucked up)!!!!!!

I do enjoy the Wii. Graphics mean nothing ( which is why I still play Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 on my Gamecube). But on topic, that's interesting.

Spyro and Cynder could have easily flown over obstacles in DotD, like the debris that separated them from Hunter in Warfang. But they didn't. Evidence that they haven't grown nor change in appearance, since they couldn't fly over such obstacles when they were little dragons.

i know. they couldn't fly over it. which points to my theory. that their wngs did not grow but only gained more muscle support.

yes, it's not the best theory, but.. XP

technically spyro nd cynder are in their teens: Spyro was born and then it went ahead at least 10 years because he is a few years old in the beginning of ANB. Then he is trapped for 3 years, do the math

Yes, but they were frozen in time for 3 years. So they should've looked the same as they were in TEN after they were broken free at the beginning of DotD. Making them teenagers without any explanation was an unwanted plothole.

I guess the creators just needed an excuse to make them bigger and 'better'. *shrugs*

Quote: Aura24

Yes, but they were frozen in time for 3 years. So they should've looked the same as they were in TEN after they were broken free at the beginning of DotD. Making them teenagers without any explanation was an unwanted plothole.

i believe that was also my theory?

Are we complaining or just discussing?

WTF IS YOUR AVI???

How do you contact Chris WIlson?

He left the Spyro Team sometime after DotD was released in 2008, and this was his message before he left. So I don't know.

Hmm, who else could I possibly email who's on the Spyro team?? Could I somehow do so??

Nobody probably. The creators of the LoS trilogy are possibly looking over at popular Spyro forums for feedback of the recent Spyro game anyways. So we don't need to talk to them, until they decided to talk to us.

Quote: Gwenio

Quote: HIR

Quote: Aura24

Since this was the first time Spyro was on the next-generation consoles, we had to update the model to take advantage of the new technology on the PS3 and Xbox 360.[/i]

First off, TEN was on the Wii, a next-gen console (real smooth, Chris). Second off, allow me to present the scoreboard:

Next-Gen Technology: 1
Spyro: 0

*waves foam finger*

But the Wii does not have next-generation graphical power.

Doesn't matter. Do great graphics make great games? Not in a million years.

Agreed, HIR.

Wait, just thought of new theory. New for me, at least.
Okay, he was trapped in a mountain, right? and the beginning of the catacombs had lava. Metal, ice, and other objects expand in heat, but not too much. Spyro is now a different shape, but not much bigger. Of course, the teams making the games didn't have this theory, but it just goes to show you that it might be possible.
Yes.