darkSpyro

Because of all the oversensitive 8-yr-olds on this site, we've lost quite a few of our luxuries. I'm talking about enabling fodder to post, and people not getting banned or suspended as easily.

I do understand our site has younger users, but if they get offended and are not happy with the site's content, there isn't a rule keeping them from leaving. Honestly, a mob of users that are to young to be on the internet are no reason to change the site this drasticly.

I understand this topic may offend or irritate the admin, but I figured that someone should bring the issue to the attention of the admin and stop complaining about it amonst themselves.

If there has already been a conversation with the admin about this matter, I am completly unaware and I apologize.

I see the issue you're addressing, but what's your suggested solution? Because I really don't see one.

Agreed. This site may lose it's reputation.

It's already lost it for me.
And what will happen when those younger members become yellow sparx? Then they'll have a big ego to boast, and things'll just get worse and worse.

What are these "luxuries" you speak of?

^ guesst we lost them because of

OmG U LikEZ HaTes SpYrOz Like Omg

...Yep, DC pretty much summed it up.

I'm just suggesting that people stop getting banned, suspended, and having their messages moderated as easily just because younger veiwers may not be suited to this kind of content.

That's a great idea, but you honestly think the people doing it are going to listen, let alone care?

Well, maybe Dark52 should actually read the moderated messages before he deletes them just because some petty 8-yr-old reported someone. Also, there should be an age limit so we don't have to have the site censored for the younger users.

Yeah I understand where you're coming from; I've brought this issue up a few times before. Unfortunately though, I really can't say that there is a solution to this. I guess dark52 may be following the "customer/client is always right" regimen and thus if someone makes a complaint, the more attractive option is to appeal to that person. Of course, as you've said, their complaints are not always justified and so this option is not always plausible, but I never saw dark52 acting otherwise. The other thing is that we might not know the full story to every complaint except dark52, so a petty complaint may indeed be valid in some cases.

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Also, there should be an age limit so we don't have to have the site censored for the younger users.

Spyro is a game aimed at young children and you want to make this Spyro fansite exclude them with an age limit?

If I was dark52 I would shoot down this idea right now. (No offense to him.)

agreed to much 8 year olds running around, but then they just get angried being called that, plus they probaly think stupid is still a bad word o.o annoying. dark52 won't go for it, like doppel said

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Also, there should be an age limit so we don't have to have the site censored for the younger users.

Spyro is a game aimed at young children

To be specific, the game isn't aimed at young children in particular; it's not Dora or anything like that. It's for anyone who likes Spyro. It just happens to be that a younger population likes it. Ok, done with the semantics.

*Cough*

Aimed at everyone.

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Also, there should be an age limit so we don't have to have the site censored for the younger users.

Spyro is a game aimed at young children

To be specific, the game isn't aimed at young children in particular; it's not Dora or anything like that. It's for anyone who likes Spyro. It just happens to be that a younger population likes it. Ok, done with the semantics.

Ok, I think bmah is right but still, as I said popping an age limit will exclude most of the fans. Which this site is targeted for.

That's true, and certainly implementing an age limit will (while I would enjoy it), is a counterintuitive decision to attracting people to this kind of site. But I think Blink is complaining about some other problems that can certainly be remedied without imposing an age limit; for example, having dark52 be more critical in choosing what reported messages are considered valid complaints.

The internet in general isn't necissarily a place for young children, so I can see where an age limit is needed.

I agree with BlinktheCookie...

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dark52 be more critical in choosing what reported messages are considered valid complaints.

I would prefer this over an age limit. An age limit must be avoided at all possible reasonable cost.

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there isn't a rule keeping them from leaving.

Blink, if you don't like the excessive "8 year olds" on the site you can practice what you preach. You can leave.

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The internet in general isn't necissarily a place for young children, so I can see where an age limit is needed.

yes or you can put some limitations on them, like they can only post on the spyro forums and they can't have guestbooks

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dark52 be more critical in choosing what reported messages are considered valid complaints.

I would prefer this over an age limit. An age limit must be avoided at all possible reasonable cost.

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there isn't a rule keeping them from leaving.

Blink, if you don't like the excessive "8 year olds" on the site you can practice what you preach. You can leave.

You can stop flaming and adress the fact that users like you are the reason so many immature users are reporting messages.

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Blink, if you don't like the excessive "8 year olds" on the site you can practice what you preach. You can leave.

You can stop flaming and adress the fact that users like you are the reason so many immature users are reporting messages.

Flaming? Look, you excessively complain that there are too much "8 year olds" on this site that your "luxuries" are being suppressed. While you say that if a person is "not happy with the site's content, there isn't a rule keeping them from leaving." So, it makes perfect sense that if you are not happy with the "8 year olds" and loss of "luxuries" there is no rule preventing you to leave.

That is not flaming (which is just a mindless firing of insults). This is a polite conversation. And I completely reasoned my statements as much as I can.

EDIT: Spelling and Grammar fix.

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dark52 be more critical in choosing what reported messages are considered valid complaints.

I would prefer this over an age limit. An age limit must be avoided at all possible reasonable cost.

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there isn't a rule keeping them from leaving.

Blink, if you don't like the excessive "8 year olds" on the site you can practice what you preach. You can leave.

You can stop flaming and adress the fact that users like you are the reason so many immature users are reporting messages.

i dont think he was flamming

Sure, an age limit would be nice, but it just won't work on a Spyro forum. The average ages of Spyro players are usually 6-14, depending on the game.
Now, if Spyro were rated T, then I could see an age limit of about 12 working. But since it's not, an age limit is really out of the question.

Thank you, DARK CINDER and Cloudtail4ever.

The thing I don't like is that Spyro2008 got riptoed for trolling... And it's only the people who are young (about 9 years old) who can't handle the trolling.... So did dark52 riptoe Spyro2008 so the younger people would be happy? This is just a thought, please don't report this kiddies......

Trolling is trolling is trolling is trolling.

No matter how old or young you are, or how old or young the people you are hitting, if you are trolling you are violating the rules.

P.S. Doppel, refrain from trying to sound like a brownnoser.

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P.S. Doppel, refrain from trying to sound like a brownnoser.

I was taking the other side of this debate. Is it bad to take another side? :/

(What does that mean?)

Affinity for either rules, or of people higher up on the ladder such as the admin. Analogous to "teacher's pet" or a "stuck-up". If you didn't do it so frequently, I probably wouldn't have noticed.

Now that you think off it, bmah is quit right there....

I'd be better on the positive and neutral sides than the negative side.

Lol, well I'm just telling you know that brown-nosing is very much a negative, not a positive.

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Lol, well I'm just telling you know that brown-nosing is very much a negative, not a positive.

What would you consider a positive then? Kicking out the younger members, insulting, trolling... You get the idea?

(bmah's avatar here)

I can't complain... at Spyroforum there is no religion or politics... that's what I'm used too...

oh and there is always a time and a place for everything.... even killing and fighting asking me... if put in a situation where I can do anything that would create more good than bad to better the world if I'm capable of doing it... I will

Referancing trolling most in the last paragraph.... under unbendable rules a person is deminished to a machiene following it's programming... and that is where I stand....

I think we should have a meeting like NASCAR did (A meeting with everybody involved to talk about what can make NASCAR (in this case Dark Spyro) a better place)

What you take from this post is entierly up to you though being that of it's philosophical content...
A life leason...an argument... or some peice of.... never mind

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Lol, well I'm just telling you know that brown-nosing is very much a negative, not a positive. :)

What would you consider a positive then? Kicking out the younger members, insulting, trolling... You get the idea?

Everyone hates the teacher's pet / snitch, last time I remembered.

Don't point this at me.

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Lol, well I'm just telling you know that brown-nosing is very much a negative, not a positive.

What would you consider a positive then? Kicking out the younger members, insulting, trolling... You get the idea?

Neither...you're only describing extremities. On one side, you have trollers and people who always break rules; on the other hand, we have people who will obsessively refer to the rules in justifying their actions. You don't want to be on either ends.

That would be nice but I doubt it. I think this site has taken a turn for the worst. An age limit won't change anything. People will still lie about their age, and with the way Spyro is, there is no way. Once again, simply look at what some people consider mean, and the way some people act on here, such as whinnign about a game that isn't working on a system. I think Spyro2008 wasn't banned due to trolling, but other members imaturity. Same with spyro fan 8, instead of being something that broke the rules, it was reported because someone lacking maturity or brains. But isn't that how most post fall under rule breaking these days? I wouldn't be suprised if I was next, Dark's choise of who to ban has become so poor. Anyone smart might have already suspended someone for tracking or constantly trolling, such as Robo, but no, it was the one who was a troll who got the other banned. The lack of Mods doesn't help, but it isn't like you have a large selection for people either ways. Perhaps Bmah of Cynder543 would do a great job, but thats isn't going to happen either.

You might just get banned for that.

bmah has once again, given the best perspective of things. Can't we all just have fun on this site?

Ghakimx has a good point. You now know the limitations of this site, but anyone can turn this site around for the better if you start working your away around the limitations.

It would be nice to have dark52 respond to people's queries here, since it would be interesting to know his perspective on the situation. But knowing that you're probably just talking to yourself at this point, do something else.

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I would prefer this over an age limit. An age limit must be avoided at all possible reasonable cost.


Blink, if you don't like the excessive "8 year olds" on the site you can practice what you preach. You can leave.

You can stop flaming and adress the fact that users like you are the reason so many immature users are reporting messages.

i dont think he was flamming

He was calling me immature, which I take much offence to, and he was telling mo to leave the site.

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That would be nice but I doubt it. I think this site has taken a turn for the worst. An age limit won't change anything. People will still lie about their age, and with the way Spyro is, there is no way. Once again, simply look at what some people consider mean, and the way some people act on here, such as whinnign about a game that isn't working on a system. I think Spyro2008 wasn't banned due to trolling, but other members imaturity. Same with spyro fan 8, instead of being something that broke the rules, it was reported because someone lacking maturity or brains. But isn't that how most post fall under rule breaking these days? I wouldn't be suprised if I was next, Dark's choise of who to ban has become so poor. Anyone smart might have already suspended someone for tracking or constantly trolling, such as Robo, but no, it was the one who was a troll who got the other banned. The lack of Mods doesn't help, but it isn't like you have a large selection for people either ways. Perhaps Bmah of Cynder543 would do a great job, but thats isn't going to happen either.

I agree. Dark52 is banning/suspending all the wrong people. Simply because the younger kids can't handle anything. If they can't handle even a small opinion, they shouldn't even be on the internet because they will have a hard time.

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He was calling me immature, which I take much offence to, and he was telling mo to leave the site.

People use the word "maturity" wrong all the time here. *shrugs*

Then tell me, why haven't I left even with all these excessive 8 year olds? I wouldn't be surprised if I see a 13 year old act like an 8. I mean, seriously, that is the case in darkSpyro.

I can see why you've been banned on Spyroforum.

I believe lots off people need to take a trip to this topic.

Speaking of which...how many people actually look at that thread now?

...yeah.

^ I don't know. But, when I did put it up there, I did notise that the forum had gone more mature. But then in a couple off months, it went back to the way it was again..... Then this place had gone worst, and then the admin starts to ban/suspend the wrong people..... This site gets worst every weak.... .___.

I don't necessarily think he's banning the "wrong people". I mean, I disagreed with Shezi's reason, but she had it coming for a while. Same with Spyro2008, he had been gnorced 3 times and dark52 told him a while ago, he was walking on eggshells and one wrong move would have him ripto'd. I guess he made that wrong move.

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Blink, if you don't like the excessive "8 year olds" on the site you can practice what you preach. You can leave.

He was calling me immature, which I take much offence to, and he was telling mo to leave the site.

Please tell me when I called you immature? Could you quote one of my posts and boldface the part where I called you immature?

For the second part, I was not telling you to directly leave, I was suggesting you to. You are unhappy with the site, right? And there is no rule keeping people -including you- in here, right? So if you don't like this place, you can leave, right? You said it yourself.

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While you say that if a person is "not happy with the site's content, there isn't a rule keeping them from leaving." So, it makes perfect sense that if you are not happy with the "8 year olds" and loss of "luxuries" there is no rule preventing you to leave.

EDIT: Note that I used quotations (the tiny " at the beginning and end of the words) to relate to your original post, and not mock. Just to clear this one.