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What is The Dark Master? [CLOSED]
Lil-Cynder Blue Sparx Gems: 829
#1 Posted: 17:57:19 22/08/2007 | Topic Creator
Your opion? Is The Dark Master a ape or a dragon? All these apes worship the DM so I'm starting to wonder if he's a ape but I don't a ape having the power to curpt a dragon like Cynder. So he's probelly a dragon?
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#2 Posted: 18:02:22 22/08/2007
I think he's a dragon. In the trailer, in the part when Gaul is speaking in his castle, you can see on teh walls some 'dragonheads'from stone.
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#3 Posted: 18:14:57 22/08/2007
i think hes a spirit or some kind of thing from the past
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#4 Posted: 19:17:51 22/08/2007
I'm convinced that he's some kind of dragon. If you see the opening movie at the Wii section of Gamespot, you can see that the purple energy spurting into the sky came from some kind of structure with a dragon's head at the top. And that purple energy itself was conducted into the portal at Convexity.

There can be ways to gesture that he could be an ape as well. Maybe dragons of yore ended up combatting the Dark Master - whatever kind of form he was in at the time - and sealed him inside the structure. And given that Spyro remarked that he had "seen (the Well of Souls) before", odds are he might have done just by going inside the portal at Convexity to rescue Cynder.
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#5 Posted: 01:12:46 24/08/2007
I bet Spyro is a reincarnation of the last purple dragon,like Ang in Avatar:the last airbender, so thats's why he can remember things he hasn't acually him self
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#6 Posted: 01:13:56 24/08/2007
oops, sorry ment to say himself
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#7 Posted: 03:36:43 24/08/2007
True, reincarnation could be behind the visions that spyro has having in this game.........
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#8 Posted: 22:24:52 24/08/2007
Like how Spyro knows what the Well of Souls is. Possible.

As for the Dark Master... probably a dragon. But a very large one, bigger than Cynder was. >.>
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#9 Posted: 23:03:16 24/08/2007
I think Dark Master is a dragon because when Spyro is escaping what looks like the portal of Convexity, there's this really loud shriek that sounds like a dragon. It could range through a bunch of possibilities, but it doesn't sound like a monkey.

I like to think it's a dragon, anyway. Because fighting an abnormally sized ape that just happens to be twice the size of the usual abnormally sized monkeys you fight wouldn't be as cool as fighting a gigantic, fire-breathing dragon.
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#10 Posted: 01:39:28 25/08/2007
Quote: DM
I think he's a dragon. In the trailer, in the part when Gaul is speaking in his castle, you can see on teh walls some 'dragonheads'from stone.


OMG THERE'S A THE LEGEND OF SPYRO THE ETERNAL NIGHT TRAILER?????? oh yeah, sry. my bad not on TV on the internet, yeah i watched it before. soz me hyper. lol

Anyways, I've always imagined him as a dragon. Thats what I think.... Its just hard to imagine him anything else..... lol

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#11 Posted: 10:56:42 25/08/2007
I used to have a short-lived theory that the Dark Master is the left-over soul of Maleficent (from Disney's Sleep Beauty), but the DM is male, so that theory went right out the window. (Ah well. More original story material for Razz! smilie)

I honestly don't know what/who the DM is and I am content to wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a dragon, but at the same time it'd be kind of odd if he were given how much he absolutely hates dragons (anyone else remember his little genocide schtick in ANB?). I wouldn't be surprised if he's something entirely unexpected.
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#12 Posted: 16:02:03 25/08/2007 | Topic Creator
What ever he is in the end Spyro is going to kick his #%!%!%!
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#13 Posted: 19:19:25 25/08/2007
Quote: Lil-Cynder
What ever he is in the end Spyro is going to kick his #%!%!%!

I would say cynder would be given the honours of finishing the dark master off, as revenge for the dark master taking her childhood away & using her only as a fighting machine during the course of her life.
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#14 Posted: 20:01:29 25/08/2007 | Topic Creator
Your right...They'll both kick his butt. (Spyro his for destiny and Cynder for stealing her life away and only treating her as a paun in his plans to be free.)
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Last edited at 20:02:41 25/08/2007 by Lil-Cynder
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#15 Posted: 04:40:53 27/08/2007
I hope they let Cynder do a little butt kicking. I know Spyro's the main hero, but Cynder deserves to make the DM answer at least in part for what he did to her.
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#16 Posted: 15:17:50 04/09/2007
hmmm i think he would be like a ghost or a spirit
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#17 Posted: 15:23:34 04/09/2007
Quote: Razz
I used to have a short-lived theory that the Dark Master is the left-over soul of Maleficent (from Disney's Sleep Beauty), but the DM is male, so that theory went right out the window. (Ah well. More original story material for Razz! smilie)


I loved that part in Sleeping Beauty! smilie Yes, I'm weird.

Dark Master.... I have no idea but I would love it if he was talking th form of a dragon but was able to shapeshift. Note: I say this BEFORE fighting him, lol!
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#18 Posted: 23:35:50 04/09/2007
Yes. Maleficient was the best part of "Sleeping Beauty". smilie

I found a short fic snippet I'd written about her being the Dark Master and I realize now that she could still be him. The dragons wouldn't know that the remnants of their old Dark Master's soul had been devoured by a female essence from another plane of existence. smilie
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#19 Posted: 00:07:22 05/09/2007
DM,so a dragon
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#20 Posted: 08:29:58 06/09/2007
DRAAGON!!!!!!!
Like Red! *pokes*
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#21 Posted: 10:14:32 08/09/2007
I had a dream last night the dark master looked like a shadowy figure of a monkey! He had red eyes sharp teeth!
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#22 Posted: 17:19:14 08/09/2007
I hope it's not the dragon...or monkey.
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#23 Posted: 11:53:05 09/09/2007
Probably some kind of demonic monster, like crosses between loads of different animals or something. OR A CHIMERA. The Dark Master would make a cool chimera!

And I doubt that the DM would be a dragon because of a simple reason: he doesn't like dragons, and that's quite evident. He could be like Red, and be a dragon-loathing dragon, but that's unlikely.

The Dark Master might be Ripto.


xD I kid!
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#24 Posted: 19:07:18 09/09/2007
It could be DARK MASTER SPARX....hahahahahaaa
(with his huge monkey army)
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#25 Posted: 19:24:49 09/09/2007
Maybe he's that new gray dragon in TEN
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#26 Posted: 00:26:27 10/09/2007
I've always thought the Dark Master was just that, darkness. Like some cloud thingamajig. Spyro would have to, like, battle him him mentally. Like willpower.
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#27 Posted: 00:30:28 10/09/2007
i think he's a black ghost dragon(or a dark ghost dragon o.o)
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#28 Posted: 00:37:19 10/09/2007
I will still hold to my cracked fan theory that the Dark Master is actually the remnants of Maleficent's soul until it is proved wrong. smilie
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#29 Posted: 16:39:25 10/09/2007
Why does anyone believe me?
Dark Master is SPARX! I am sure he is!
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#30 Posted: 20:43:53 10/09/2007
Man, that would be awesome if he was! smilie
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#31 Posted: 11:32:43 11/09/2007
Quote: spyro_lover17
Maybe he's that new gray dragon in TEN

OHEMGEE o-o So spooooky. Maybe you're right!
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#32 Posted: 11:57:50 11/09/2007
I think The Dark Master is a demon or something that reminds of it.
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#33 Posted: 19:54:29 12/09/2007
I think hes a dark dreadwing!
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#34 Posted: 19:06:51 13/09/2007
If Dark Master is dreadwing, it's horrible... sorry!
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#35 Posted: 13:17:14 15/09/2007
Personally I can see him being something hilariously small but immensely powerful like Ripto. Maybe he's The Sorcerer though. Somehow I see his 'resurrection' as being some sort of connection to the previous games, so he may be a past villain.
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#36 Posted: 19:53:09 15/09/2007
No way there is a rumor that says the dark master is a dread wing that talks stands up on his hind legs has two emarald eys like gaul buts gaul has one emrald eye! and the dark master holds a emrald staff but his has two emarld cryrstals coming out of the top of the staff! (i pick up the legend of spyro the eternal night rumors!)
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#37 Posted: 22:10:36 16/09/2007
UGH! Been so long since I last posted...

Anyway, don't know how much of a bump this is but... here is my own theory:

The Dark Master IS a dragon... in fact, Spyro IS the reincarnation of the Dark Master.

Just think about it. The power of darkness take the form of purple energy in the serie... and when Spyro unleashed his true power at the end of the A New Beginning, what form took his breath attack? Waves of dark purple energy.

Remember that the Prophecy states that the Purple Dragon will do great things... it never said if those would be good or bad.

My theory is that the last Purple Dragon ended up, for some reason, hating all other dragons. His powers went unstable and he grew to such a power that the dragons of the time could do nothing but seal him in the Dark Realm where he remained until ten generations later.

Ten generations later, with the Purple Dragon sealed, the prophecy states that a new reincarnation will be born... and since the last Purple Dragon is sealed and thus, no longer part of the world, the Purple Dragon end up "reincarnating".

Thus, we end up with, on one side, Spyro, who is a fresh new Purple Dragon wielding the same powers and memories than the other Purple Dragon, the Dark Master.

Furthermore, by this theory, this might mean that logically, as the "new" future Dark Master, Spyro's fate is not a happy one... and might even cause his quest, if he follow his fate, to be in vain. Thus, it might explain why at the end of the trailer, Spyro state that he will pick his own path. So that he might use his own powers to overcome his fate and defeat his former self, restoring the world to a true balance.

That's my theory.

Main supporting points in short...:
-Spyro's power being the same as the dark power (as seen in the second game's trailers)
-Dark Master seems to be a dragon.
-Spyro's memories.
-The end of the trailer, which imply that Spyro will go against the Prophecy.

Hope you liked it.

Have a nice day everyone!
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#38 Posted: 19:05:34 21/09/2007
I'm actually starting to think that the mysterious, disembodied Chronicler may turn out to be the Dark Master.
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#39 Posted: 21:35:17 21/09/2007
Are you crazy zeroduis Spyro will not defet himself! He will kill you and the dark master!
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#40 Posted: 22:30:20 21/09/2007
I thought that he could be the Chronicler I mean when else in movies, games, etc. have the enemies helped the hero out? Also when i saw the gba trailker i thought that figure was the Dark Master, it's a cool look for the evil guy.
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#41 Posted: 22:33:27 21/09/2007
Zeroduis why did the Dark Master want to destroy Spyro's egg hmm.....
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#42 Posted: 20:23:44 22/09/2007
I think you did not understand well.

What I said is that the Dark Master might be the previous Dragon of Prophecy, which is why Spyro and him might share the memories and the powers. However, despite it all, they are two DIFFERENT incarnations of the Dragon of Prophecy ; the Dark Master is not truly Spyro's past nor future... but rather a "version" of himself that was born ten generations and that went wrong.

He also wanted to destroy Spyro's egg for an obvious reason: as he is the previous incarnation of the Dragon of Prophecy, he know full well that if Spyro is allowed to be born and to grow up, he may eventually become powerful enough to challenge him... which is why Spyro's egg was a priority target for his forces during the great war against the Dark Master's forces.

I hope that my explanation was sufficient.
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#43 Posted: 01:05:26 24/09/2007
You know, it's scary, but I actually agree with Zerodius.
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#44 Posted: 00:58:30 27/09/2007
Well, I don't agree Zerodius. I agree with ignitus about the rumor.
Any way, ignitus, do you have a profile on Deviant Art?
Because I want you to create a drawing of the Dark Master based on the rumor.
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#45 Posted: 15:58:14 27/09/2007
i think its a dragon
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#46 Posted: 20:17:18 28/09/2007
Well the dark master sounds like a mutant dreadwing! A dreadwing who has eaten a wierd plant and transformed into a horrible mutant dreadwing!spyro will kick the dark masters little dreadwing tail!
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#47 Posted: 16:10:36 30/09/2007
Quote: ignitus
Well the dark master sounds like a mutant dreadwing! A dreadwing who has eaten a wierd plant and transformed into a horrible mutant dreadwing!spyro will kick the dark masters little dreadwing tail!


"eaten a weird plat"?
Sound funny smilie
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#48 Posted: 20:52:33 30/09/2007
Quote: Spyromaniac
I bet Spyro is a reincarnation of the last purple dragon,like Ang in Avatar:the last airbender, so thats's why he can remember things he hasn't acually him self


Agreed smilie
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#49 Posted: 07:37:20 07/11/2007
hello RedWelshDragon
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#50 Posted: 11:37:03 07/11/2007
Hey... I remember you...

...no... wait... I lost it. =_="
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