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Just when you think Bethesda couldn't possibly mangle the series up a bit more. What's next? A card game?

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Just when you think Bethesda couldn't possibly mangle the series up a bit more. What's next? A card game?

c-close enough??

At least it's not Hearthstone-tier garbage.

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Just when you think Bethesda couldn't possibly mangle the series up a bit more. What's next? A card game?

don't give him ideas

In case he's listening, here's one for him: We've had enough shallow FPS shooter experiences. Just make a good RPG you ****.

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c-close enough??

At least it's not Hearthstone-tier garbage.

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don't give him ideas

In case he's listening, here's one for him: We've had enough shallow FPS shooter experiences. Just make a good RPG you ****.

i love how the best fallout game wasnt even made by Bethesda

I can't decide between New Vegas and Fallout 1 and 2, but that's true nonetheless. For me the old FO games by Interplay are where the "lore" as it was intended to be ended, so I guess I have a slight bias towards them.

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funny how four years ago i went nuts over fallout 4 and now this game is announced and i'm like "meh"

I'm not surprised. To a lot of people this must seem more like a spin-off than a "real" Fallout game because Fallout games have traditionally been single player titles. This is similar to The Elder Scrolls Online, which no-one tends to see as a part of the actual TES series.

I can't really explain it, but generally speaking video game series are characterized by certain traits that give them the abstract quality of "belonging" to that series, completely separate of the actual title or the developer of the game. That's why you get things like spiritual successors that appeal to the fans of past titles. I'm not sure what to call it, but "familiarity" probably wouldn't be too far off.

It's obvious that Bethesda and it's fans have a conflict of interest here. Bethesda wants to widen the market to get more revenue while still maintaining the impact that the name "Fallout" carries with it, while most fans just want them to continue the series and keep the playing experience similar.
Really Bethesda's only hope by pulling stunts like this is to either have the fans accept what they're doing, or to gain new fans faster than they alienate the old. I imagine it must be a real source of headache for them, because Fallout is the kind of series that has gained recognition and survived on the market largely by filling a niche. Everyone who likes the post-apocalyptic genre have already played it, and you can't realistically keep everything the same while still trying to make and market the game with new fans in mind.

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funny how four years ago i went nuts over fallout 4 and now this game is announced and i'm like "meh"

I'm not surprised. To a lot of people this must seem more like a spin-off than a "real" Fallout game because Fallout games have traditionally been single player titles. This is similar to The Elder Scrolls Online, which no-one tends to see as a part of the actual TES series.

I can't really explain it, but generally speaking video game series are characterized by certain traits that give them the abstract quality of "belonging" to that series, completely separate of the actual title or the developer of the game. That's why you get things like spiritual successors that appeal to the fans of past titles. I'm not sure what to call it, but "familiarity" probably wouldn't be too far off.

It's obvious that Bethesda and it's fans have a conflict of interest here. Bethesda wants to widen the market to get more revenue while still maintaining the impact that the name "Fallout" carries with it, while most fans just want them to continue the series and keep the playing experience similar.
Really Bethesda's only hope by pulling stunts like this is to either have the fans accept what they're doing, or to gain new fans faster than they alienate the old. I imagine it must be a real source of headache for them, because Fallout is the kind of series that has gained recognition and survived on the market largely by filling a niche. Everyone who likes the post-apocalyptic genre have already played it, and you can't realistically keep everything the same while still trying to make and market the game with new fans in mind.

We don't know for sure yet, but from what we've seen hinted, it appears the game will most likely be single player with optional co-op.

I could be wrong, though.

I meant the player's view of the game, not the multiplayer content itself.