darkSpyro

http://www.newsweek.com/teache...bout-pay-775500

Opinions, PLEASE!

What law did she actually break though?

Is there even such thing as a person in power in our country who isn't corrupt and self serving? The people in Congress should be made to answer the same question of why they keep giving themselves raises while America sinks further and further into debt and its citizens struggle to make enough money to survive.

However, to be fair, compared to other innocent people who've had unfortunate interactions with cops lately, this woman is lucky the cop didn't just shoot her and claim her hand had moved towards her belt.

Here's the video of what happened. She never lost her temper. She went into the hallway after being told to leave, and the cop followed her out to arrest her because she wasn't showing a submissive enough attitude beforehand.

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What law did she actually break though?

The law of speaking against someone else which has grown increasingly more dominant.

Really, nothing.

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Here's the video of what happened. She never lost her temper. She went into the hallway after being told to leave, and the cop followed her out to arrest her because she wasn't showing a submissive enough attitude beforehand.

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Alright, I'll watch that today after school and give you my opinion then. I gotta fly now though.

Yeah, this was absolutely ridiculous. On top of that, it was not just her. She started the protest, but a lot of the other teachers got in on the thing.

I am on the teachers' side, definitely. Teachers are extremely underappreciated and underpaid, it is ridiculous.

Theres a good 30 seconds between the time that she was escorted out of the room and the time that the first woman to leave said that the teacher got arrested.

What most likely happened was that the teacher got in the cops face and the cop felt threatened. However, keep in mind that this is based on assumption. I'm not siding with anyone here, just pointing out something.

And yes, cops in the USA have the right to make an arrest if they feel threatened in any way. It falls under probable cause. If they(the cops) feel like your about to commit a crime, in the teacher and the cops case, the cop most likely assumed that the teacher would have gotten physical.


Weather or not she would have is unknown. As of now we don't have any evidence to support this claim.

Are, are you serious

while not entirely relevant the teacher said that she “doesn’t think people in power should get raises”
that’s not fair imo but that’s a whole other ballfeild

I mean, a 40k increase when teachers don't get jack **** is bound to make people angry. However, the entire point of corruption in higher ranks is about getting more and more benefits for yourself and do anything to not get replaced, so asking for people in power to not get raises is like asking a youtube celeb to not take advantage of their fans - it'd be great if it didn't happen, but usually you're talking to someone who'd do that in a heartbeat and won't be convinced by words alone.

so is this justified or bad????????????? idk


i saw this on the news, and one of the other teachers in the room started saying this was sexist???????? not everything is sexist people

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Theres a good 30 seconds between the time that she was escorted out of the room and the time that the first woman to leave said that the teacher got arrested.

What most likely happened was that the teacher got in the cops face and the cop felt threatened. However, keep in mind that this is based on assumption. I'm not siding with anyone here, just pointing out something.

And yes, cops in the USA have the right to make an arrest if they feel threatened in any way. It falls under probable cause. If they(the cops) feel like your about to commit a crime, in the teacher and the cops case, the cop most likely assumed that the teacher would have gotten physical.


Weather or not she would have is unknown. As of now we don't have any evidence to support this claim.

Well, lets say that she did get "up in his face." Are you seeing this guy compared to her? There is no way he felt "threatened." If he did, he shouldn't be on the police force, lol.

Now, if she was trying to get back into the room, and make a bigger scene, than I could see it a little more. But why restrain her to the ground? He could of grabbed her by the arm and dragged her out of there. He seems like a really strong guy to me.

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Okay, I saw the video, and also looked up a few other articles to see if they had any more information. Here's what I could gather about the events that unfolded:

1. People in this schools' boardroom meetings follow a strict procedure when it comes to speeches. They have to be under three minutes long, civilized and related to the issue before the board.
   


2. The teacher's speech didn't follow these rules, and she didn't end it when she was told to do so. That's why she was removed from the boardroom by the deputy marshal who worked in the facility as a school resource officer, but it's not the reason why she was arrested. Some articles say that the marshal made the decision to remove her from the room, others that the marshal was directed to remove her.
   


3. The teacher was arrested in the hallway outside of the boardroom by the decision of the deputy marshal. I'll go by parisruelz's guess as to why, but none of us really know for sure. Still, it's safe to say that she wasn't arrested for speaking out.
   


4. The teacher was taken to Abbeville Police Department, but the police department itself had nothing to do with the arrest. They're just cooperating as directed by the law.
   


5. The teacher staid in jail overnight and was released with no charges filed either by the superintendent or the city attorney. The city attorney also concluded that there was no criminal activity on the teacher's part.
   

Having went over all of this, I am on the side of the teacher(s) and I do think they deserve fair compensation for an increased workload, but sadly this was a case of doing things wrong for the right reasons on her part. She wasn't completely in the right by disrupting the meeting, even though she may have thought it to be just on her own part.

As for what happened in the hallway, if she did get in the marshal's face somehow then that was a really dumb thing to do, even if she was being emotional. As an officer of the law the marshal had the right to arrest her in such a case.
It's also possible that the arrest was the marshal's own bright idea, but I don't know. He seems very calm and not aggravated at all in the video. I don't know why he would've done that without a reason.
(It should be noted that the deputy marshal in question was apparently sued for use of excessive force in 2011.)

The school district may be in the wrong for not paying the teachers enough money, but I don't hold them responsible for the arrest. It's pretty clear that they just wanted her out of the room for disrupting the meeting.
As far as I know they haven't commented on the arrest, but all things considered that's pretty understandable. There's such an outrage going on at the moment that a lot of people would hate them regardless of their comment.

The city attorney seems like a cool guy and made the right choice in my opinion.

And last but not least, the local police department was 100% innocent but apparently still got bombarded by mail. It's also good that the teacher was released so soon.

OMG, that is some serious dedication to research right there. My kind of investigator! XD

If she did get in his face, emotional, I imagine the arrest was probably emotional on his part to, opposed to threatened. As in he got PO'd and thought "you know what, I'll just arrest then, see how she likes them apples!" lol

The lawsuit calls his legitimacy to question, though. It was over half a decade ago, but still.

Yeah, I hate it when people start blaming a whole faction of people, or take things out on the wrong group. Why on earth are you sending letters to the LSP? If the marshal did make the mistake, that is his mistake, don't bring them into it. >.<

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while not entirely relevant the teacher said that she “doesn’t think people in power should get raises”
that’s not fair imo but that’s a whole other ballfeild

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I mean, a 40k increase when teachers don't get jack **** is bound to make people angry. However, the entire point of corruption in higher ranks is about getting more and more benefits for yourself and do anything to not get replaced, so asking for people in power to not get raises is like asking a youtube celeb to not take advantage of their fans - it'd be great if it didn't happen, but usually you're talking to someone who'd do that in a heartbeat and won't be convinced by words alone.

I think when she said she had a problem with anyone in power getting a raise, she meant in this case, specifically, as in their school system. Also, I think she meant anyone in power getting a raise (if we are not getting a raise). As she continues on to state that "at the top" is not where the kids learn, but in "our classrooms."

I'm 99% sure that is how she meant that comment, but if not, than I agree, I don't know why she said that.

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so is this justified or bad????????????? idk


i saw this on the news, and one of the other teachers in the room started saying this was sexist???????? not everything is sexist people

It is debatable. That is why I posted it. Some will side with the teacher, and some will side with the marshal. It is up to you.

I like to look at the precise facts, about who did what, and the overall situation, background information, etc. In my case, I didn't think it was justified. I have a hard time believing that the arrest was necessary. Removing her from the meeting, sure, but not the arrest. Though, there is some blank information there.

I didn't hear the sexist thing... What? I don't think this is sexist... Just unfair. O_0

Here is a new follow-up article about an interview with the teacher in question...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...apology-n836641

I was just trying to explain, not justify. Lol. you are right though.

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I was just trying to explain, not justify. Lol. you are right though.

Whoops, I guess I misinterpreted, lol.

I find it out of the oridinary to hear something like this from louisiana. I don't hear much from the judicial system there.

Anyone live there?