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#1 Posted: 14:16:05 15/12/2017 | Topic Creator
What it says on the title. I'm a bit sick and incoherent, so I'll wait to write my full opinion. Spoiler warning as usual, but to stay on the safe side tag everything anyway.
So, people who ran to the theaters yesterday or before or are watching early sessions, did you like it? Not like it? Find certain scenes stupid or certain scenes cool? how much did the alien milking scene disgust you in a scale of 1 to 10 If it didn't, replace with Leia on a string across space on on a scale of 1 to Why
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#2 Posted: 15:12:10 15/12/2017
I'll just repost what I said in the "Last movie you watched" topic because it pretty much summed up most of my thoughts:
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#3 Posted: 15:16:45 15/12/2017
boring and long
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#4 Posted: 15:26:10 15/12/2017 | Topic Creator
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Good movie or bad movie, the extra hour definately feels superfluous. Not only two climaxes and all the fluff, but it was really taxing to watch it on bad 3D glasses by the end.
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#5 Posted: 22:09:49 15/12/2017
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#6 Posted: 02:52:03 16/12/2017
HNNNNNNNNNNG I LIKED IT A LOT
The length and the corporatism aside, that was a ****ing good experience. I really enjoyed it. I loved Luke’s scenes and I was so emotionally attached to the characters and action! It brought legit happiness to my face. I can’t wait for Episode 9 |
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#7 Posted: 03:24:53 16/12/2017
During the part where Luke said "And I am not the last Jedi," a kid in the theater said, "What?" The whole theater burst out laughing. Also Rose is amazing. Old Leia reminds me of Ana for some reason.
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#8 Posted: 17:17:29 16/12/2017
Quote: Blackholes_Wolf
^ A lot of people became restless during the last half hour. Granted that may be due to the sudden lack of air conditioning (it's summer here), but the inclusion of two climaxes really threw off the pacing. Actually, the pacing of the whole film was strange. |
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#9 Posted: 18:32:56 16/12/2017 | Topic Creator
The pacing felt like a book, but a lot of places just felt like trailer editing. I'm ok with the island scenes breaking up the tension, but when you're running like 4 lines(+Porg and Chewbacca appearances)all at the same "time" for the entire movie it does get overwhelming eventually.
Rey only reunites with the team at the very end so ONLY then you have 2 lines.
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#10 Posted: 22:22:12 18/12/2017
It's spectacular.
All of it.
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#11 Posted: 23:37:15 18/12/2017
The film seems to be getting a lot of unnecessary hate right now. Some of the comments and reviews I've read are brutal. It's even got the lowest audience score of the saga on Rotten Tomatoes...
I liked it but felt somewhat underwhelmed. I dunno, there were some really good moments but also some really 'meh' moments in there as well. |
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#12 Posted: 23:42:31 18/12/2017
Also, I'm sorry, but it's insane how beautiful Daisy Ridley is.
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#13 Posted: 10:17:05 19/12/2017
I have mixed feelings on this one. I think I will reserve judgement until after Ep 9 comes out and I can judge the trilogy as a whole.
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#14 Posted: 08:28:25 21/12/2017
okay here i go
the porgs were stupid and i hated them also that rose girl did not need to be there at all. just pandering to the female audiences tbh but i liked it. that lightspeed part was ****ing insane. and the whole "snoke getting cut in half" routine was pretty damn cool too. but.. how are they gonna deal with carrie fisher in episode 9? i don't know if this is one of those "too soon" things but.. i kinda expected them to kill leia off in this one. |
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#15 Posted: 09:41:50 21/12/2017
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They said she had finished filming her scenes for 8 before she'd passed. I believe I also read somewhere that her family has signed off on allowing Disney/Lucasfilm to make a digital recreation of her for 9 if they desire like how they did at the end of Rogue One, no idea on comment from Disney on the matter. They could do a minor time gap and kill her off between movies. -----
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#16 Posted: 00:32:53 22/12/2017
I liked it.
The best part when TLJ brought the mysticism back into the Force and the midi-chlorians from the prequels mean nothing.
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#17 Posted: 10:04:59 22/12/2017
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I remember reading that Disney has said that they will not digitally recreate Leia, so she'll be written out somehow. We just don't know if they'll have her die offscreen or just have her off doing something else (which would no doubt be covered in a book or whatever). Quote: StevemacQ
But midichlorians do still mean something. Rey just has a lot of them by sheer random chance rather than because of her parentage.
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#18 Posted: 11:00:39 22/12/2017
^It means nothing.
Midi-chlorians is stupid because it takes away the spiritually of the Force. The ending implies that the Force can now apply to anyone, not just Jedi or Sith. The Force is something that should be measured like power levels in Dragonball Z. In fact, power levels become meaningless in DBZ.
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#19 Posted: 12:01:19 22/12/2017 | Topic Creator
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... Do I mention S cells or not?
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#20 Posted: 12:31:37 22/12/2017
Quote: StevemacQ
Midichlorians were never limited to just Jedi and Sith. Some people have higher midichlorian counts than others pretty much at random. The Jedi Order simply collected children with exceptionally high midichlorian counts in order to make them into Jedi. Then when the Emperor took over he started collecting kids with high midichlorian counts in order to either kill them or make them into Inquisitors. But now both the Jedi Order and the Empire have been gone for several decades, allowing people with high midichlorian counts to just live normally out in the regular population. -----
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#21 Posted: 03:12:09 24/12/2017 | Topic Creator
Also, I wonder if someone has already explained if the bombs at the start are a failure of physics or actually a thing that could happen? I have no dog on this subject but a Star Destroyer doesn't look big enough to have the proper gravitational pull; probably not even Snoke's mothership.
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#22 Posted: 18:47:09 28/12/2017
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The bombs are electromagnetic So basically they were pulled towards their target
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#23 Posted: 00:35:39 31/12/2017
I have a lot of mixed feelings on this one, it had some cool stuff in there but a lot of it was boring
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#24 Posted: 04:32:21 31/12/2017
I loved everything with Luke, Rey and Kylo Ren. Especially the scenes between the latter two. I like that for awhile it feels like either one could go to the other side. The visuals on the last planet with all the red were super cool. The stuff with Luke at the end left me speechless. That whole final Luke scene is easily one of my favorite movie moments. I was extremely bored during 90% of the side quest with Finn and Rose. I could not stand Rose, I thought she was super boring and see no reason for her to be there other than to be an adventure companion. BB-8 was the best part of these segments. Finn's faceoff with Captain Phasma was cool but a bit anticlimactic. The fake out Finn sacrifice really annoyed me. I didn't want him to die, but it would have been a great character moment for him to go from a coward in the beginning of TFA to a doing brave, selfless act. I thought Rose saving him (by crashing into him?) was cheap. They could have "saved" him some other way. At least a way that's less stupid. The stuff with Poe or however you spell it and purple hair was eh. I like Poe but I wish he went on the side quest instead of Rose because his chemistry with Finn is significantly more fun to watch. Flying Leia was....odd. Purple Hair's sacrifice was cool. So yeah my feelings are pretty mixed. There stuff I love, stuff I hate, and stuff I think is meh
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#25 Posted: 05:54:44 02/01/2018
im sad that one cute pilot got killed 5 seconds after her introduction :( - - - |
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#26 Posted: 09:35:34 02/01/2018
real opinions though the movie felt like a disney marvel movie which isnt bad but disappointing. the formula of having quips from one scene to having a "be sad" moment complimented with a slow camera shot of a character's face with sad music to another quip like a minute later and a shirtless scene. this movie is weird though with it being good with some really nice moments with one scene in particular making the audience quiet in awe and garbage with useless finn shenanigans and self insert rose.
spoiler stuff about characters luke dying was done pretty well and im not really pissed at it despite the scene with the milking being imprinted in my mind forever. luke however felt very out of character and felt out of place in the climax as he got replaced with another luke. rey and kylo plot was simply amazing and i am really looking forward to what will happen in the next movie. part of me was hoping that rey would join kylo though. poe stuff was really weird where it kinda mattered but didnt at the same time. finn and rose however drag the movie down a star with their screen filler that felt more like a mission in a mmo instead of a movie subplot. rose quite literally is the worst character in the entire movie as she is some random chubby asian chick (for the chinese audience of course) who only does good and is able to be a capable engineer, gunslinger, and pilot who saves the main character and is also romantically involved with them like some fanfiction.net character. snoke being killed off was nice and unpredictable and i agreed with the idea of kylo taking full control of antagonist instead of diet palpatine. but the dumbest thing in the movie was leia going super sayain and jesusing her way trough space. |
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#27 Posted: 20:42:25 02/01/2018
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#28 Posted: 21:29:22 02/01/2018
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I can't imagine she's thinking clearly, though. You know the saying "love makes you blind"? I'm surprised they didn't end up killing her off at that point. I was imagining that would happen. - - -
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#29 Posted: 21:41:41 02/01/2018
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Uhhhh, which one The one in the beginning, with the bomber in which case 1:She was the only one on that bomber 2:That was heroic as **** taking her own life to destroy a dreadnaught, like damn
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#30 Posted: 21:43:08 02/01/2018
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her name was Tallissan Lintra and her actor is really cute  ![[User Posted Image]](https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12135465_700479426753060_444538477_n.jpg) Quote: Big Green
dont forget the many deaths she caused in the casino. just because a lot of people there are rich weapon dealers doesnt mean that there could be children, innocent rich people, or even more child slaves that were killed - - - |
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#31 Posted: 23:30:44 02/01/2018 | Topic Creator
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Don't win through sacrifice, save the ones you love! -proceeds to get all the non-important rebels killed via battering ram laser-
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#32 Posted: 02:16:53 03/01/2018
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Neither, I forgot that could apply to more than one scene. I meant the one where Finn was going to sacrifice himself and Rose saves him by crashing into him. |
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#33 Posted: 02:54:09 03/01/2018
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Yeah, her message didn't really fit the situation there. She says to "save the people you love" rather than "fight the people you hate", but Finn wasn't actually fighting anyone at that point, he was brave-little-toastering the battering ram in order to....save the people he loves. It's like the line was written for a scene where Finn is about to make a last stand killing as many First Order soldiers as possible, instead of running away, but then is stopped by Rose. But then they changed the scene without changing the line.
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#34 Posted: 03:23:00 03/01/2018
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Oh that yeah that was dnf
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#35 Posted: 03:53:32 03/01/2018
Late but I greatly enjoyed it and liked it a good deal more than Force Awakens. A lot of the things people dislike about it are honestly what I enjoyed, and it feels like people were just hoping it would continue the trend Force Awakens started. I didn't want more retreading. Force Awakens served a purpose in instilling optimism back into the fanbase by repeating IV, and I appreciate TLJ for deconstructing the whole thing and going in a new direction.
I need to rewatch it to get the full scope but as it stands it's probably the 2nd or 3rd best in the series next to IV and V. Namely it's refreshing to see a side of war that we don't usually see in movies, especially Star Wars: Failure. A big complaint I've seen is how the Finn/Rose arc is a waste of time but I honestly like how they tried to have this big plan only for it to blow up in their faces. War is not all about successes, and it balances out the failures and ineptitude of the First Order by showing that the Resistance is just as prone to ****ing up (and that they're just as guilty in putting money into the pockets of rich war mongers). Poe's attempts at trying to be some big hero a la the OT only to constantly get shut down was refreshing too. He had a plan that sounds like it would lead to some big payoff and heroic climax, but in reality it would more likely lead to the deaths of several. Poe needing to realize that a single guy can't always be the one to save the day by being reckless is a nice change of pace. |
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#36 Posted: 04:55:25 03/01/2018
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empire strikes back and revenge of the sith |
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#37 Posted: 05:11:03 03/01/2018
Admittedly overlooked the failures of Empire, which itself is part of what makes it the best in the franchise. Not sure how I managed that. RotS doesn't really have failure more than a successful coup. The film is about the success of Palpatine's slow rise to power, establishment of the Empire, and corruption of what is thought to be the most force sensitive individual the galaxy had seen. While the Jedi Order's failures to prevent this are a factor, their arrogance and outdated ideals aren't really the focus (and haven't really been in a canon story until TLJ). I'm also going to double down on my note of Poe's reckless attempts at being a hero being scorned and realistically shut down rather than lauded and successful like in many films. There's a good chance when I rewatch this I'll get bored and retract a lot of my notes on that particular arc, but as it stands I appreciate the time spent showing us failure and expanding on other parts of the characters and universe. I forgot where I first saw/heard it (could've been Moviebob), but the arc also helps to better establish Finn's reasoning for fighting alongside the Resistance outside of "my buddies are here". - - - I'm not entirely positive on the film though I should note. -While he's a meme character at this point, I do think it would've been more fitting for Ackbar to have been the one to sacrifice himself and the ship with the hyperdrive as opposed to a new character we barely spent time with. -I can't get too angry about the Leia scene since it was probably written before she died, but I do think it would've been fitting to have her die there. I can't help but imagine some people would've been angry if that were the case though, claiming it's insensitive to kill the character on screen in the rewrite after the actress herself died. -The milk scene is gross. -Rey turning would've been the dopest ****, and given the film a very serious argument for the best in the franchise. It's obviously understandable why they didn't, but a twist like that would've given the impression that the Resistance is just about hopeless, with an uphill climb that feels a lot more realistic and emotionally impactful if/when they later succeed. |
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#38 Posted: 23:02:31 03/01/2018
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There were already parts of the movie where I was thinking, "Forget this, it's all hopeless, they're all going to die, what's the point." Like you said, there was already a lot of failure in the movie. If she turned, it'd probably cross the line into no longer fun to watch everything go down. And it may end up requiring a deus ex machina (pardon my trope-speak) to get the resistance a slight chance of winning. . . .
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#39 Posted: 17:16:58 04/01/2018
paddington 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the last jedi
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#40 Posted: 17:20:23 04/01/2018
and wtf why did it receive such a high score on RT? even my normie dad thought it was too high and it shouldve been in the 70s
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#41 Posted: 17:51:18 04/01/2018
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Because the critics thought it was good enough? I mean, they have differing opinions from you
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#42 Posted: 16:48:21 05/01/2018
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If I were to take a guess it's that they liked the film's deconstruction of the franchise and attempts to go in a new direction, rather than just repeat the exact same beats from the OT and become a nostalgia simulator. When you're a critic and you have to watch hundreds of films a year for your job, you start to appreciate when a film does something different than what you expected. The films that do everything exactly as predicted become boring and grating. |
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#43 Posted: 20:22:54 05/01/2018
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It's a partial retread of Empire but it's largely boring, it certainly doesn't deserve the high scores it's gotten |
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#44 Posted: 20:29:37 05/01/2018
just a reminder RT is completely flawed, even if a movie gets only 6/10 or 7/10 reviews it can still get a 90% on RT. This is what happened with barbershop 2016
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#45 Posted: 20:32:12 05/01/2018
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Just a reminder that RT also has actual people with actual opinions working for them
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#46 Posted: 20:36:23 05/01/2018
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#47 Posted: 20:47:18 05/01/2018
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Reminder that Disney is secretly working with Rotten Tomatoes and Pizza Hut to **** themselves with money
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#48 Posted: 22:52:09 05/01/2018
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I've noticed the same thing with video game reviewers. One of the most common complaints I see in professional game reviews is that a game doesn't do enough to shake up or redefine an established formula, and one of the most common things I see praised is when a game radically changes everything. I've seen many instances where a sequel loses points compared to its predecessor because it doesn't "change things up enough" despite being an altogether better game when compared side to side. With regular player reviews, on the other hand, I rarely see novelty brought up as an intrinsically positive factor, if it's even brought up at all. Changing up the formula is not necessarily considered a good thing, and sticking to a formula is not necessarily considered a bad thing. Change simply for the sake of change is very often frowned upon, depending on the extent and nature of the change. We just have to keep in mind that professional reviewers are basically forced to consume the things they review, and so they have no particular attachment to the existing formula and would rather experience something new just for the novelty of it. Whereas the average person chooses what they want to consume, so they are much more likely to highly enjoy (if not prefer above all else) the specific formula in question and thus want to experience variations of it again and again.
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