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Endangered Gorilla shot after 3 year old falls into zoo enclosure [CLOSED]
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#1 Posted: 17:57:58 30/05/2016 | Topic Creator
Story here.
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#2 Posted: 18:05:34 30/05/2016
Oh come on, now. There were a million other things you could've done in that situation! Why'd you have to shoot the gorilla!
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#3 Posted: 18:25:48 30/05/2016
Thaaat's crap parenting for you. Everyone else pays the price while they just pay the cost of entry and being customers are allowed to do all sorts of stupid.
I think there were at least three big videos/news of kids doing something stupid and the parents getting away with it getting traction just this week.
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#4 Posted: 18:31:59 30/05/2016
I usually go there a few times each summer, I'm glad I wasn't there when it happened. A lot of people are angry at the zoo, but in the heat of the moment they did what had to be done to protect the child. Maybe his parents weren't doing their job, but the zoo was doing their's and doing what had to be done to protect a child's life. Could it have been handled differently? Sure, hindsight is 20/20, but I wouldn't hold it against them because they put the life of a child above the life of a gorilla, I believe that is the fight thing to do.
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#5 Posted: 19:19:18 30/05/2016
Yeah... I've heard all about this.
I blame the parents really, they should have been paying attention to their kid, and as a result of their negligence they got an innocent endangered animal killed. That being said, I think it was the only option the zoo had at the time because the gorilla could potentially attack the baby at any time, so using tranquilisers would take too long.
Sigh... a tragic event that could have been avoided if the parents paid attention, AND if the zoo had adequate barriers to keep children out of enclosures. Clearly they didn't, because the child got in. After this happened, I think the zoo should work on that to avoid this ever happening again.

Shame this comes not long after the fatal shooing of two lions at another zoo where a man jumped in the enclosure in an attempt to end his life...
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#6 Posted: 19:23:07 30/05/2016
Is it..bad that I don't see why everyone is so upset? I understand that it's terrible that the animal died, but what else could have been done? They sad that tranquilizers didn't work,continuing to try to tranquilize the animal would have made it worse. I understand it might not have been the best solution, but the boy was in danger. To be honest, I'd rather see an animal get shot, if it means that a human, who has barely begun to live, gets to continue living.

If that's harsh, I'm sorry. They're just animals. I love animals, but you have to remember what was at stake when taking a side and making a decision.


That being said, I think the parents are stupid though.
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#7 Posted: 19:23:28 30/05/2016
It's awful what happened... But I can't really blame the zoo for their decision. Like the article states, tranquilizer was just too dangerous to try since it would not take effect immediately and it would have really agitated Harambe even more. The article also states that they could've tried negotiating with Harambe, but who knows how that would've turned out? Gorilla behavior can be unpredictable... I wish they could have tried a better alternative to save them both... Especially since Harambe is an endangered species who was going to breed.

I don't believe Harambe was going to harm the child in the first place though; if he wanted to, he would've... Maybe he was trying to protect him from the yelling and the noise of the crowd (I don't know, though, I'm no zoologist)... But considering how big he is and how small the child is, it's easy for him to unintentionally seriously hurt the child, even if his intention was to protect him.

Frankly, I'd blame the negligence of the parent(s). According to the article, he had to "go under a rail, through wires and over a moat wall to get into the enclosure." That's a decent few obstacles there I'd say, and the parent(s) didn't notice the entire time? Didn't keep an eye on him for however long it took him to make it into the enclosure? I also heard that the child was saying multiple times that he wanted to get into the enclosure. If I heard my kid say that, I'd keep a very close eye on him because that's a hell of a red flag! But... It seems like the enclosures do need work, since the child did get in in the first place.

I don't know for sure if this post here is real, I just saw the screenshot on Facebook, but here's something:
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This post is a joke imo... No mention of Harambe, and look, the age-old "accidents happen" excuse... Accidents happen, sure, but they could be prevented had you kept "a tight watch" on your kid like you say you do.

I'm glad that the child is okay, though.
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#8 Posted: 19:34:20 30/05/2016
Here's the thing.

The parents are bad parents, if he was watching his kid this wuldn't have happened so it wasn't an accident because it would've taken a bit of work to get in the enclosure. Second, let the kid die aha, if he's that stupid why bother. "oh that's so harsh" you dont walk into a mine field and then expect to survive, this kid was a ****ing moron, the parents were ****ing morons, and the zoo were ****ing morons.

No attempt to get the gorilla away was made by any zoo officials or trainers, all they did was make a kill shot, they couldve shot its arm or leg or anything, but they made a killshot.

Everyone is at fault. the parents should get jailtime and have their child taken away and put ina home where he can raise his iq by the needed 100 points
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#9 Posted: 19:46:49 30/05/2016
The kid is 3, of course they're a moron. The issue is the parents, the kid wouldn't know any better.
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#10 Posted: 19:49:57 30/05/2016
Yeah, the kid isn't at fault because he has no idea of the dangers of the situation.
And if trainers went in to try and get the child off the gorilla, the gorilla may turn on them in an instant and hurt the child, as LevanJess mentioned. Same with shooting the gorilla in the arm or leg. It would scare him and stress him out, and who knows what he'd do then.
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#11 Posted: 19:50:13 30/05/2016
Quote: Bifrost
The kid is 3, of course they're a moron. The issue is the parents, the kid wouldn't know any better.



Yeah.

You shouldn't punish the kid for not knowing what was going. I think it's punishment enough that he'll most likely be traumatized.
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#12 Posted: 19:52:43 30/05/2016
Someone mentioning me a video of a kid and a tiger comes to mind. They're safely separated by a transparent plastic wall, and the tiger is trying to attack the kid throigh it, but the child is trying to pet it. Dunno if it's fake, bht if it isn't, pretty similar situation - the 3 year old wants to pet the big strong monkey, they can't tell danger yet.
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#13 Posted: 19:57:18 30/05/2016
Exactly. I've seen many videos like that, be it with bears, lions, tigers, etc. Children at that age don't understand the dangers of wild animals. I know very well that my little sister would be happy to pet a wild tiger. We really shouldn't be blaming the kid and wanting him to have died.
It was a really tragic event, but I think the zoo handled it in the best way that they could have at the time.
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#14 Posted: 19:58:43 30/05/2016
Quote: Lunarz
No attempt to get the gorilla away was made by any zoo officials or trainers, all they did was make a kill shot, they couldve shot its arm or leg or anything, but they made a killshot.



Have you ever used a gun before? An animal's limb is a tough shot at any range, and takes a skilled marksman to do safely. Throw in the fact that the gorilla was moving, and that there was a human nearby, it would've been too risky. Or potentially worse, what if they actually hit him? Anyone who deals with animals knows that they become exponentially more dangerous when wounded. If they hit that gorilla in the arm or leg, he would've gone nuts, and there's no telling what would've happened then.


I agree with paris. This situation would've been tragic no matter how it ended, but the zoo made the best decision they could.
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#15 Posted: 20:37:13 30/05/2016 | Topic Creator
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As much as I want to avoid making it about that, the reference to god rubs me the wrong way, especially when in some parts of the video it looks a little like the gorilla was trying to protect the child (very beginning it looks a little like he's shielding him).
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#16 Posted: 00:54:42 31/05/2016
found this comment on youtube and i agree (the other comments didn't cuz they were super christian and had hissyfits aha)

What bothers me the most is the statement that this boy's mother released. She said: "We are so thankful to the Lord that our child is safe. He is home and doing just fine. Thank you to everyone who helped me and my son today and most importantly God for being the awesome God that He is"

No, your "god" is not the one who saved your son. It was the caretakers at this zoo who had to kill and ****ing sacrifice their own beautiful creature for your son's safety. These zoo caretakers are very emotionally bonded with their animals and they made a huge ****ing sacrifice for you, and you should be thanking them instead. It must feel so offensive to do something so selfless and heroic by killing your own loved one to save someone else's child, only to have that person thank their sky god instead of you. This boy's mother should be ashamed.
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#17 Posted: 03:37:38 31/05/2016
Wow. Don't know what to say about this, I think that this whole mess is just nuts. Crappy parents, Idiotic bystanders, A poor kid and the tragic dealth of a gorilla.
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