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Whether you're totally looking forward to this game or have your doubts, I think there should be one thing we can all agree on: VV is much, much better at keeping secrets with this game than TFB was with Trap Team. I mean, compared to the amount of characters that were leaked early, there were fewer whom that happened to (though granted that could just be because there are fewer characters this time round). We all know how people have called them out when they don't answer or just gloss over questions in interviews, but I like to think of that as them purposely being coy to prevent spoilers.

But one secret that TFB managed to keep before the release of their game was the "Mystery Element", which we now know as Light and Dark. Really, nobody knew anything about it until they were officially revealed right in time for Chris-Wait, no, sorry, remembered that wrong... Nobody knew anything about it until some Nosy Nelly went snooping through the game files, and then there was that infamous Hood Sickle glitch that was discovered. Because of this, a lot of people began whining and moaning at TFB because they were still keeping the Light and Dark Skylanders as much of a secret as they could even though practically everybody knew about them. Actually, whining and moaning doesn't even begin to describe it... More like rioting in the street over it!

So my question is, do you think VV put something in this game to be revealed at a later date? Now, I'm not saying we're gonna get another two elements when we just got Light and Dark, but something else that could be just as big?

Me personally...
I hope not. Because my god we do not need a repeat of what happened last year.

I would love Ice, Electric and Poison become elements but I don't think it will happen.

I'm actually thinking VV is learning from how poorly TfB handled Trap Team and has purposely reigned in the information more than usual. They were pretty good chatter boxes in the Swap Force era...but "the right kind". Some of our information requests are rather specific....and they are probably only going to stick to the basics.

I truly think the game will ultimately be a "pullback" of sorts, much like the fact that we have an 80% drop in figures due to the response to a 30% decline of starter sales. I'm surprised no one has noted other than myself that the Activision CEO didn't announce the game like in previous years.

If they do have a rabbit in their hat, it's to TOTALLY combat Dimensions and Star Wars. They're going to need one. It's a double edged sword though, because I can see people jumping ship due to what appears to be very reserved and less than energetic pre-release crowd.

We knew there was SOMETHING, though. The question mark gates and spots appeared early,we just weren't told what it was.
In here... Not really. We need skylander gameplay, some backstories, but the only hole in the facts is the uneven number of villains in racing, and maybe the Elemental Vehicle Zones in the Academy. It's not something exactly worth of hype, just some weird thing they don't seem to want to tell us because because.

i would like to see 2 more characters/ vehicles. mainly because i feel like there is not a true 20 figures due to the 2 nintindo ones, and yea i dont count them because there not universal. i still look at counting them as part of the 20 as a cheap move. thanks for giving everyone that dosent play on nintendo 90% of the figures.

Maybe? I feel like if they did introduce something new, it wouldn't be two new elements,

Maybe it can be like Trap Team. We discover a strange thing in-game, and the producers reveal that thing after the release.

Doubt it especially since las year's reaction.
Don't think they would try and do it again.

Oh, who am I kidding?
I still kinda hope they will come out, sometimes during next year and say "oh, you thought we forgot? Here are your 20 new Cores for this year! Enjoy!".

If there is something big, I hope they execute it via free DLC/online game updates so that it will really be a surprise rather than have it on the hard disc at launch that somebody can snoop into. And none of that question mark nonsense where younger kids who don't read up on the internet play the game and have no clue "what those question marks mean." A chaotic (or Kaotic) event brought upon Skylands with new levels via DLC/game updates would be cool. The 3DS and Wii aren't holding them back this time!

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I still kinda hope they will come out, sometimes during next year and say "oh, you thought we forgot? Here are your 20 new Cores for this year! Enjoy!".

That would be great. I think that they can start to release new content after the game's release, specially now, when DI 3.0 started to do this.

I can't see them pulling what happened last year because a lot were angry over it.

People were very angry at PVP being cut(and how they were so heartless on the subject, since Skydad had to ask directly and they definately weren't going to say it if he hadn't) but that's still out, unless they're hoping we'll forget it over racing. Again, because hack-and-slash and racing are totally the same thing.

Nah I think another mode will be revealed but no new elements.

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People were very angry at PVP being cut(and how they were so heartless on the subject, since Skydad had to ask directly and they definately weren't going to say it if he hadn't) but that's still out, unless they're hoping we'll forget it over racing. Again, because hack-and-slash and racing are totally the same thing.

That's the whole point of the game.

Vehicles aren't characters and as such cannot be played everywhere but they do count as "playable figures" unlike traps (which funnily enough were playable characters).
There will be a lot more vehicle areas than the previous games but apparently we won't consider them to be just like the previous ones simply because now the vehicles are actual figures.
They brought back PvP but only for racing (as far as we know) because, as you said, hack-and-slash and racing are totally the same thing.

They really want us to think it will feel like the previous games but I doubt it will.
Don't know if it will feel better or worse but it won't definitely be the Skylanders experience we were used to under many aspects despite them constantly repeating so.

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People were very angry at PVP being cut(and how they were so heartless on the subject, since Skydad had to ask directly and they definately weren't going to say it if he hadn't) but that's still out, unless they're hoping we'll forget it over racing. Again, because hack-and-slash and racing are totally the same thing.

Eh, personally I don't mind PVP being dropped. I do still hope there are Arena Challenges in this game, or something along those lines, but hey, it's their game. They wanna focus on racing, I say go right ahead.

I mind more on the sense of that we have online but not normal PVP - imagine having a true metagame like Pokémon and other large character roster games, the fandom would finally take off. Racing is 20 vehicles, not the same, and definately not something you'd prefer over MK8's metagame. In TT it was really just one less pastime but not losing sleep over it like several people did. Now, I'd love if we could have both, and my point was that they don't go back on things just because of fan reaction.

Does anyone remember, EvanTube HD spoiled Light and Dark by having the symbols in the bottom right on their 3DS video?

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Does anyone remember, EvanTube HD spoiled Light and Dark by having the symbols in the bottom right on their 3DS video?

Yeah,but in screenshots just a few days before that there were visible question marks in the screenshots in the element menu. We knew they were elements,just not what. In here they didn't have the bottom screen in any screenshot, probably out of fear that it'd repeat itself even if there's not anything to show(and to be fair,it's going to show the racers, we'll get even more villains out of that than squinting at the HD footage).

Not in this game, maybe the game after the next one. Because, it would seem rushed for Activision/Tfb/VV to just keep adding elements on.

I feel we should keep it at 10 plus "Kaos" as a nice round number and an unofficial 11th. And what more could they add.

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I would love Ice, Electric and Poison become elements but I don't think it will happen.

That would be stupid sinse we have so many Skylanders using electric attacks (like Zap and Punk Shock for example) and Skylanders using poison (like Rattle Shake)

oh yes i am definitive sure of that, it means more money for them...

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I mind more on the sense of that we have online but not normal PVP - imagine having a true metagame like Pokémon and other large character roster games, the fandom would finally take off. Racing is 20 vehicles, not the same, and definately not something you'd prefer over MK8's metagame. In TT it was really just one less pastime but not losing sleep over it like several people did. Now, I'd love if we could have both, and my point was that they don't go back on things just because of fan reaction.

It's a problem that has been looked into, it's why they were saying that the cars are "balanced". Seems they understand that in PVP random online you will just run into a lot of Drobot spammers. I personally don't see how that would be fun.

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I mind more on the sense of that we have online but not normal PVP - imagine having a true metagame like Pokémon and other large character roster games, the fandom would finally take off. Racing is 20 vehicles, not the same, and definately not something you'd prefer over MK8's metagame. In TT it was really just one less pastime but not losing sleep over it like several people did. Now, I'd love if we could have both, and my point was that they don't go back on things just because of fan reaction.

It's a problem that has been looked into, it's why they were saying that the cars are "balanced". Seems they understand that in PVP random online you will just run into a lot of Drobot spammers. I personally don't see how that would be fun.

And I personally don't see how they would have fun spamming Drobot's lasers either.
They wouldn't be wrong or bad by any means by doing so (they bought him and took time and effort to level him up and fully upgrade his abilities after all)... But I would personally get pretty bored fast.

There could always be an option to simply automatically balance your fights so that Giants would only challenge other Giants and level 20 Skylanders could battle only with other characters with the same level.

At this point adding online PvP for vehicles but not for Skylanders (and it's the second which has been requested multiple times) is a rather odd choice.
And simply confirms my personal view of this entry once more: vehicles are the stars, Skylanders are extras.