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Alright. This topic is not for ranting. I just wanted to make this because of people constantly coming up to me when I pull out my 3DS, saying, "The PS Vita is SOOO much better.

The 3DS and Vita CANNOT TRULY be compared. The 3DS is a handheld quite separate from it's home console counterpart, while the Vita is much like Sony's home console. The 3DS is a dual screened touch based system, while the Vita uses more complex button/D-Pad controls. Also, the game selection and age range are much different between the two systems. Finally, though I slightly lean toward the 3DS side here, sale for it a better.

3DS is better.

Ps Vita is better because I'm jealous that I don't have a 3DS.

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Ps Vita is better because I'm jealous that I don't have a 3DS.

Be jelly.

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Ps Vita is better because I'm jealous that I don't have a 3DS.

Be jelly.

so jealous of that wonderful 240p screen

3DS has Fire Emblem, Kirby, and TLoZ.

I prefer the 3DS.

I would probably get the Vita if it's library wasn't so low.

TBH the only reason i got a ps Vita was to get Dangan Ronpa 1 and 2. Now i only have those, Freedom Wars, Borderlands, and Dangan Ronpa: Another Episode.

I only got the 3DS to get Pokemon X and Y. So far, i have both of those, gates to infinity, and...oh wait that's all.

I bought a 3DS over a Vita because of the better library.

There's a significant amount of people out there that constantly tell you the Vita is better? Where I live people either think lowly of the Vita or don't even know it exists.

And it's fine to compare the two systems while still keeping in mind the different demographics they have. Though both have something in common in that western developers have all but abandoned the systems. 3DS looks healthier though because it still has strong first party support from Nintendo, whereas Sony already stated they're done making AAA games for the Vita (Freedom Wars may very likely be the Vita's first party swan song).

I have no opinion whatsoever on which system is better. It entirely depends on my mood and what games I'm playing at the time.

i like the vita for it being a beautiful rpg machine and weeaboo game player

3ds is just because nintendo so

Vita is the better machine but has less games. Your choice.

Oh right the vita exists

Psp is the best now I shall go play some Persona 3 and Ratchet and Clank

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Ps Vita is better because I'm jealous that I don't have a 3DS.

Be jelly.

so jealous of that wonderful 240p screen

It turns me on.

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Be jelly.

so jealous of that wonderful 240p screen

It turns me on.

you 3ds users and ur 3d porn

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so jealous of that wonderful 240p screen

It turns me on.

you 3ds users and ur 3d porn

i think mesuxelf is the only user who uses it for porn

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It turns me on.

you 3ds users and ur 3d porn

i think mesuxelf is the only user who uses it for porn

I can honestly say that I have never used the 3DS's internet.

Well I mean from a technical standpoint the Vita is better, tho it has literally nothing on it but niche JRPGs. Which is 100% why I got one. I've never touched a nintendo console in my life, but I don't really think of the Vita being "better" opinion wise. I got a vita more because it had a few really good games that I was willing to buy an entire new console for, whereas the 3DS had a lot of games that looked interesting, but none that I wanted to buy a whole new console for.

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Psp is the best now I shall go play some Persona 3 and Ratchet and Clank

You can play both of those on Vita.

People actually think the Vita is better? I'm tempted to get one for the SAO games, but even then I'd rather just get the PSTV. Cheaper price and I don't need all the app stuff.

I had a psp but it got stolen, I cried for a week,
Then for xmas I got a ds
And the next xmas I got a 3ds,
I cant decide,

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People actually think the Vita is better? I'm tempted to get one for the SAO games, but even then I'd rather just get the PSTV. Cheaper price and I don't need all the app stuff.

Vita technically has a bit more of a diverse (and by that I mean more weeb-ish) library of games. Vita is still pretty popular in Japan. This leads the system to have a wide variety of JRPGs, visual novels, two Vocaloid titles, and other niche Japanese titles.

The system is also significantly more powerful than the 3DS, leading to more ability for porting or overall having bigger or prettier games. The Vita has hosted 3 Blazblue titles now, all pretty much exact replicas of the PS3 counterpart (while the 3DS has had one shoddy port and that's it). It's also gotten ports for MK9, Injustice, and UMvC3, and Skullgirls is just weeks away. The Vita has had both a 60fps Wipeout and a fully functioning Need for Speed port. We got Minecraft and an Assassin's Creed made to play and look like the main series titles. And while it came out ****ty and busted (and was never really fixed), the fact that they managed to ever get Borderlands on it says a lot about the power. It means more freedom compared to the weaker 3DS.

Also the Vita isn't region locked, meaning that even if the game doesn't come out in the west it's perfectly possible to import it and play (so long as you have a vague understanding of the language or don't care about story).

Realistically the Vita had the ability to be better than the 3DS. But western developers and Sony themselves threw it in the trash and so now it survives as a niche product for niche markets compared to the more inclusive 3DS. The way I see it, if you're really into Japanese games and culture, the Vita likely has something for you and may appeal to you more.

Sorry for the ramble there.

^ Still, I thought most kinda looked down on it cause even Sony seems to overlook it at times.. I don't see much truly wrong with it, just a bit surprised people would find it better.

As far as Vocaloid goes, the same games are on the PS3. :/ Sure, the Vita version may have a different library of songs, but Project Diva is on PS3 as well.

I have nothing truly against it, and would like some of the games, but am somewhat inclined to get the Playstation TV more just cause it's cheaper.

saw an actual vita for the first time on wednesday last week 10/10 console marketing

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^ Still, I thought most kinda looked down on it cause even Sony seems to overlook it at times.. I don't see much truly wrong with it, just a bit surprised people would find it better.

As far as Vocaloid goes, the same games are on the PS3. :/ Sure, the Vita version may have a different library of songs, but Project Diva is on PS3 as well.

I have nothing truly against it, and would like some of the games, but am somewhat inclined to get the Playstation TV more just cause it's cheaper.

Yeah most people do look down on it. The console by most standards is an utter failure and while Sony would like to look the other way and act like it doesn't know what went wrong, it's pretty clear to everyone that the fault lies entirely with Sony. But for some people who are aware of it or have it, they prefer it over the 3DS because of the library it has, which appeals to people with serious interests in Japanese culture or even indie games (though most indies on Vita are often cheaper on PC).

They are, and both versions to my knowledge have the same library of songs. It was just worth noting as an example to the kind of support and games the system has.

I would suggest getting PSTV as well if you have no real interest in other features of the Vita, but just want to play some of the games. Memory cards are really expensive outside of Christmas sales. Just make sure the games you want don't rely on specific Vita features (touch controls, gyro, etc.), since they obviously won't work as well on PSTV.

Vita is superior from a technology and infrastructure standpoint, but that doesn't mean anything when you don't have games, and Vita hasn't got a lot, certainly doesn't cover many demographics.

If you're going to market your system as a "video game platform", you need to make sure it has fun games to play. It's as simple as that, as least in the handheld market. If it doesn't, it shoots itself in the foot.

Also, another thing - the Vita's idea of having current (at the time) console level graphics, was a bad one in my opinion. The processing power it used completely ate away at the battery, and it pushed the price of the system up to a degree that was unreasonable for a handheld. It also wasted money on having a high definition screen, when it's still a relatively small screen. If I played a game at 720p on my laptop it looks fine and dandy and I can see all of the little details, but on a Vita, even if it's a big enough screen "for a handheld", it's still pretty small compared to a TV or something. So you aren't going to really pay attention to any of the details anyway. Also the only game that really pushed the system to it's limits graphically was Uncharted, and maybe Tearaway.

The reason why the 3DS is so successful is because it knew that it was a handheld - it didn't go overboard with the graphics and technology, and it didn't cost too much (it did a bit at first, but that was quickly rectified). The graphics are comparable to a lot of Gamecube games, which is all a handheld really needs to be in this day and age, especially since the screens are not going to be that big. Most of the 3DS's games are stylised and look very nice anyway due to a magical thing known as "good art direction" that a lot of developers forget about. Smash 3DS is technically inferior to PS-All Stars on Vita, but the former looks a lot better due to much better art direction. Furthermore, from a GAMEPLAY standpoint, most 3DS games, ESPECIALLY first party games, ARE console level experiences in terms of content and complexity of gameplay. So through making a system that is technically pretty average, and focusing on just making the games PLAY like console games and have the CONTENT of console games using STYLISED graphics, Nintendo found a winning formula and pretty much have a monopoly on handheld gaming now.

They adopted a similar strategy with console gaming which worked on the Wii, but it's not entirely working on Wii U...then again, their real issue on Wii U is it's awful name, terrible marketing at launch, and constantly avoiding online play and making poor excuses for not including it in games or not using it to the fullest.

^Personally I think it was fine for the Vita to have the graphical power it has. Once again, games like Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, and Freedom Wars likely wouldn't exist if the Vita had power more comparable to the 3DS. The problem is that Sony barely marketed the device, leading people to not know about it or buy it, leading to third party developers (and even Sony themselves) to question the point of having large budgets for a handheld title when the userbase was so low. Sony's abysmally high memory card prices also turn people off from buying, especially when many games take up a good amount of space even physically, and many titles tend to only be found online in both formats (Gamestop is the only brick and mortar store with any real Vita presence and it's still lacking).

Really a lot of the problems the Vita has come down to "Sony didn't market it". The power could've worked if it was marketed better and had a higher userbase to justify developers sinking money into big exclusives on it. Both handhelds live and die off the first party support and Nintendo gave the 3DS all kinds of love even when western developers abandoned it. And Nintendo titles have a lot of western appeal compared to the Atlus and NIS titles that dominate the Vita landscape now.

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^ Still, I thought most kinda looked down on it cause even Sony seems to overlook it at times.. I don't see much truly wrong with it, just a bit surprised people would find it better.

As far as Vocaloid goes, the same games are on the PS3. :/ Sure, the Vita version may have a different library of songs, but Project Diva is on PS3 as well.

I have nothing truly against it, and would like some of the games, but am somewhat inclined to get the Playstation TV more just cause it's cheaper.

Yeah most people do look down on it. The console by most standards is an utter failure and while Sony would like to look the other way and act like it doesn't know what went wrong, it's pretty clear to everyone that the fault lies entirely with Sony. But for some people who are aware of it or have it, they prefer it over the 3DS because of the library it has, which appeals to people with serious interests in Japanese culture or even indie games (though most indies on Vita are often cheaper on PC).

They are, and both versions to my knowledge have the same library of songs. It was just worth noting as an example to the kind of support and games the system has.

I would suggest getting PSTV as well if you have no real interest in other features of the Vita, but just want to play some of the games. Memory cards are really expensive outside of Christmas sales. Just make sure the games you want don't rely on specific Vita features (touch controls, gyro, etc.), since they obviously won't work as well on PSTV.

I really don't care about the other features. Have a phone and 3DS that does most if not all of it between the 2. My main interest in it is the 3 Sword Art Online games, which last I saw weren't on the list on uncompatable games. Could find some more that wouldn't be on it like probably getting Skullgirls.

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^Personally I think it was fine for the Vita to have the graphical power it has. Once again, games like Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, and Freedom Wars likely wouldn't exist if the Vita had power more comparable to the 3DS. The problem is that Sony barely marketed the device, leading people to not know about it or buy it, leading to third party developers (and even Sony themselves) to question the point of having large budgets for a handheld title when the userbase was so low. Sony's abysmally high memory card prices also turn people off from buying, especially when many games take up a good amount of space even physically, and many titles tend to only be found online in both formats (Gamestop is the only brick and mortar store with any real Vita presence and it's still lacking).

Really a lot of the problems the Vita has come down to "Sony didn't market it". The power could've worked if it was marketed better and had a higher userbase to justify developers sinking money into big exclusives on it. Both handhelds live and die off the first party support and Nintendo gave the 3DS all kinds of love even when western developers abandoned it. And Nintendo titles have a lot of western appeal compared to the Atlus and NIS titles that dominate the Vita landscape now.

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I'm just gonna be the Vita defender in this thread.

The games might not exist, but in Uncharted and AC's case (won't speak on Freedom Wars since I know nothing about it), neither of them are highlights of their series.

Using Uncharted as the main example since I've played every game in the franchise, including Golden Abyss (referred to as "GA" henceforth), GA didn't do anything new for the series. While the Vita is powerful, it's not as powerful as a PS3, so GA was inevitably going to be technically inferior to past games in the series, and this is a series where technological advancements are what defines it - each game was bigger and more epic in scale than the last, with crazier set pieces. Then you have GA which...doesn't really have any memorable set pieces. It's just a bit of the usual Uncharted platforming, then some gunfights, and then some forced and annoying touch screen gimmicky segments. While the game looks pretty and also does add in more puzzles than usual (with mixed success), it doesn't have the one thing that makes Uncharted what it is, and that's the epic set pieces. Also the game is entirely set in jungle/third world military base within the jungle/ancient ruins areas, and nothing else, meaning the pretty graphics start getting repetitive after a while anyway, and you'll start noticing how they really don't hold up to the PS3 games.

So yes, while GA might not have existed without the Vita, I honestly don't think anyone was asking for Uncharted on the Vita, or on a handheld in general. The franchise did not benefit at all from a handheld entry, as it added nothing new (of value at least) to the series. Instead of trying to do something a bit different to create a game that better accommodates being on a handheld, it provided a watered down version of a console Uncharted experience and added forced, gimmicky touch controls that were also unresponsive to remind you that "hey remember that the Vita's screen and back is touch sensitive?".

That's not me saying it's a bad game. In fact I enjoyed it quite a bit due to it being my first Uncharted game. However, fans of the series have a valid point in disliking it, as now that I have played the PS3 games, I can see why an Uncharted fan would be underwhelmed by GA.

A lot of the big name Vita games are like this, so it drives home the point that "Vita is a watered down PS3", rather than it's own unique thing. 3DS defined itself as a separate experience that isn't trying to compare to it's bigger and more powerful companion, the Wii U. Even with Smash Bros, which has a console and handheld version, while the 3DS one could legitimately be sold as a console game in this day and age bar the graphics, it has a lot of design choices that accommodate for and TAKE ADVANTAGE of the fact it is on a handheld (Smash Run in it's entirety, stages taking advantage of the fact each player has their own screen, etc). 3DS games rarely force handheld gimmicks, they just take advantage of specific aspects of the hardware that blend into otherwise console worthy games.

I'm not bashing the Vita here, I'm just pointing out why I think people are more drawn to the 3DS, aside from better marketing and Nintendo having more notable IPs on it like Mario and Pokémon.

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