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Think about it they are not reposes they are superchargers and superchargers are gimmicklanders and do gimmicklanders get reposed. Yeah let that sit around in your brain for a while

It's still the same character that gets reposed. They're kind of half and half so yes the new forms might not get reposed later but it's still possible.
I like a lightning-harpoon wielding character but not really that slapped on a Gill Grunt which I already have.

We'll probably never see Deep Dive Gill Grunt again in any form, but that doesn't mean we won't ever see Gill Grunt made into yet another brand new gimmicklander with yet another brand new move set.


Hopefully they'll at least wait a few games before doing that though. Give the guy a rest!

I was upset about them at first but now I'm not because I realized they won't be the same they look different, they have different names, and plus VV said they would have all new move sets.

I'm not upset about Deep Dive Gill Grunt and Hurricane Jet-Vac. I like their new outfits and powers.

I will say what I think plain and simple: old characters turned into Gimmicklanders even if revamped a bit is not a good idea.
And they couple it with the decision of reposing characters which had at least three forms (except for Roller Brawl) not counting Minis of course!

What a brilliant decision!
No really, no sarcasm whatsoever because they found a clever and "cheap" way to sell reposes which otherwise wouldn't have sold that well.
Stealth Elf in in every Starter Pack instead of this year's guest stars' leader Spitfire!

I honestly want to see how much Stealth Elf's Single Pack will sell compared to Spitfire's (if it exsists but I think it's logical to assume so).

I am not interested in buying a character I already own again and won't be convinced by fancy new suites and a different moveset.
Nothing will change my idea but hey, we can all have our opinions right?

Bifrost nailed my thought.
I am annoyed by the fact I might have enjoyed those new powers and movesets but NOPE because they have been slapped on old characters.
Some even from the very first game of this series.

How about a jellyfish-like Skylander with Deep Dive Gill Grunt's trident...?
Nah, too much lazy to do it after coding new animations, new powers and new upgrades.
Definitely too difficult and stressing to do...

They are preparing for the next plot: Gill Grunt and a group of Skylanders are overtaken by their ego and decide to unite in order to rule Skylands...

Gill Grunt giving into evil would be a really great plot twist actually. Attempting to scan his dozen figures in future games would still work since you're still with some control over him,but he'd have friendly fire off in co-op, and any defeated friend turns into a Gill Grunt.

Skylanders: Rise of the Gill Grunts


The gimmicklanders new gimmick would be that they are all variations of Gill Grunt brought together by time travel to fight their evil future self and his army of Gill Grunt clones.

That's an actual plot to a game that was released recently. I won't mention which because that's actually major spoilers. Still would be pretty awesome to have a timeline where Gill Grunt's fame got to his head and affected him negatively - I don't have his Mask of Power book but he's not too interesting from the snippets I read personality-wise.

I prefer to have only one of each character in my collection (core but no reposes, or vice versa), but this new take on reimagined Skylanders actually has me curious. The fact that they have completely different movesets, a brand-new look and can SuperCharge their own vehicles is the only reason I'm considering collecting them. As long as they play like new characters, I won't be upset about having doubles in my collection.

My beef With Drek's argument is that the move sets are too similar to old characters to be put to new characters. Plus this actually gives you a reason and a way to enjoy reposes. What's wrong with it being a new character? If all the characters were Gill Grunt with different movesets, and every character ever made was a Gill Grunt nobody would complain Gill Grunt 2.5 was too similar to Gill Grunt 2. At least we have some diversiity in character design.
Bad analogy I know, but I play for the gameplay, and the figure diversity. Not so much for the character design (even though the game would be boring if every character ever made was a Gill Grunt)

They're definately not similar, they're just adapted to the character. A lightning-harpoon and the power to cause insant waves seems more like Wham-Shell's thing, and a splinter cannon that can root itself in the ground to become a turret feels like a Life-Themed Sprocket. They just added what sounds like the character to keep it to their themes - water jetpack and the stealth invisibility thing.
I play for the character design, so they could have each Gill Grunt be like an entire new level of gameplay and variety - I'd still rather get a new character that looks better or is more interesting than him in other aspects. If I want custom movesets I'll buy Smash 4 where you're not paying for each set.

They sucked to begin with.

Nah(and it's not the first time you showed up to just say that and never explain your point). Gill Grunt Series 1 was a blast to play in SSA and today it's still nice to hold down hover and water hose and mash that buttom for maximum exploding starfish. But if S1 is enough for me, 6+ other figures are definately not needed.

The amount of time investing into new move sets should have made new characters automatic. These reposes are a bit of a cop out. Laziness as Drek95 said.

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The amount of time investing into new move sets should have made new characters automatic. These reposes are a bit of a cop out. Laziness as Drek95 said.

I agree. All told then there's really only 10 new characters...this is like Giants all over again....except VV had two years for this game and not the 7-8 months TfB had for Giants.

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My beef With Drek's argument is that the move sets are too similar to old characters to be put to new characters. Plus this actually gives you a reason and a way to enjoy reposes. What's wrong with it being a new character? If all the characters were Gill Grunt with different movesets, and every character ever made was a Gill Grunt nobody would complain Gill Grunt 2.5 was too similar to Gill Grunt 2. At least we have some diversiity in character design.
Bad analogy I know, but I play for the gameplay, and the figure diversity. Not so much for the character design (even though the game would be boring if every character ever made was a Gill Grunt)

They are not similar at all from what I've seen.
Just kinda adapted as Bifrost said.

Could have had a simple small tweak and perfectly fit a new character.

I agree with you on reasons why I play a character.
I sincerely try out all the new characters and eventually end up liking them all (some more than others of course) but they have to be unique and fun to play as.
Not sure what you mean by "figure diversity" but if you are referring to the design of the figure then I don't see how it wouldn't be related to the overall Skylander design.

Stealth Elf and Flameslinger are both elves but they are absolutely unique both design and gameplay wise.
Stealth Elf and her SuperCharger version aren't that similar in gameplay but you can absolutely tell they are the exact same character just by looking at them.

How many times can you change the armor, weapon and pose of a Skylander before it becomes painfully obvious you are simply trying to find a cheap way to sell him/her again...?

I won't lie to you and myself: some of those movesets look interesting and fun to play but I don't have a single doubt when I say I won't buy any single revamp this year.
As TakeYourLemons often says (well his undead past-self at least ) I will vote with my wallet hoping this choice won't happen again.

And also sincerely hoping they will use those movesets again in the future but for brand new and original characters.

I'm happy they are so excited about this idea since they probably put a lot of effort in it and truly thought it was great and cool but as a customer I feel the right and duty to tell them I don't think it's good at all.

the change of the figures might be a way for them to escape the use of older figures in later installments. with the change to the reposes getting new abilities, whats to stop them from just only going so far with the characters and no longer using series to tell them apart? each game will have "new characters" that are actually just reposes with different powers. i wouldnt be surprised these newer figures wouldnt be able to work in older games and only forward ones.

all in all they are being lazy with it and there's a point it shouldn't all be putting characters like stealth elf and gill grunt in it. that's what leads to exhaustion of a franchise. neither of those two sell well and the point of stealth elf in the starter is because they need a throw a way character that people wouldn't spend too much on and wouldn't be a loss to sell.

i'd expect more of this way in the future in how much more lazy they will get to cut corners (reusing certain characters ad naseum) while keeping others out of it.

The skylanders game will never be all gill grunts, they have to put some eons elites in there and up the price to $700, then call them cheap for such awesome characters that are so OP they're not even fun

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The skylanders game will never be all gill grunts, they have to put some eons elites in there and up the price to $700, then call them cheap for such awesome characters that are so OP they're not even fun

Well there will of course be a set of Eon's Elite Gill Grunt.
One for each Element.

Water: Gill Grunt
Fire: Grill Grunt
Earth: Soil Grunt
Air: Whirl Grunt
Magic: Wiz Grunt
Tech: Mill Grunt
Life: Will Grunt
Undead: Thrill Grunt

I don't see what the fuss is all about
They have different attacks so they are basicly new Skylanders

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I don't see what the fuss is all about
They have different attacks so they are basicly new Skylanders

Still, it's the same look, same personality, it's stupid

Right, now I'm pissed af about pop fizz,

That's ok, we can get pissed off that they're selling us a magic item to allow us to fly as villains that we've already bought traps for and have trapped.

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That's ok, we can get pissed off that they're selling us a magic item to allow us to fly as villains that we've already bought traps for and have trapped.

This.

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That's ok, we can get pissed off that they're selling us a magic item to allow us to fly as villains that we've already bought traps for and have trapped.

I know right? I swear they know that were so sick and tired of that they actually had the audacity to include a trophy to summon Golden Queen with him of all characters. If it weren't for the fact she has a sea vehicle, I would have thought Trigger Happy would since they make more sense with their theme with gold. That was a totally uncalled for dick move even for them to prey on collectors' desperate completion habits.

Though in trap team it was almost impossible to get defeated,
Low on health? Just tag to villian and you win!
Sky 6 should have every feature in the series though some would not approve
Elemental gates
TM gates
Swap zones
Giant zones
Mini zones
Traps
Areas which requires flight/levitation
Though will we ever get it? Probably not

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That's ok, we can get pissed off that they're selling us a magic item to allow us to fly as villains that we've already bought traps for and have trapped.

I know right? I swear they know that were so sick and tired of that they actually had the audacity to include a trophy to summon Golden Queen with him of all characters. If it weren't for the fact she has a sea vehicle, I would have thought Trigger Happy would since they make more sense with their theme with gold. That was a totally uncalled for dick move even for them to prey on collectors' desperate completion habits.

Welcome to the toys for life genre. Leave your wallet at the door as two employees will be there to confiscate it and your bank account credentials shortly.

In all seriousness did you expect less? With the announcement of the dark starter to get the trophy for kaos, unless they pull something later to buy the trophies separately (most likely for 7 or 8 bucks at a later date) how else do you think they'll sell certain characters that are reposes? hook, line and sinker.

To be "fair" i guess the trap technology couldn't be incorporated at that time for vv's game to the extent of fully putting them in to be used instead of the trophies....though that would've been a much better idea and possibly could've been done. So they probably went the more expensive route to the consumer to pick only several to be reimagined as trophies to play as. I'd expect trophies to be useless for any other game just like the vehicles afterward. So keep that in mind in what you actually buy again. Don't get swept up to buy action packs, etc for just a few moments of play.

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Though in trap team it was almost impossible to get defeated,
Low on health? Just tag to villian and you win!
Sky 6 should have every feature in the series though some would not approve
Elemental gates
TM gates
Swap zones
Giant zones
Mini zones
Traps
Areas which requires flight/levitation
Though will we ever get it? Probably not

Not as long as VV is still partners with Activision.

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The skylanders game will never be all gill grunts, they have to put some eons elites in there and up the price to $700, then call them cheap for such awesome characters that are so OP they're not even fun

Well there will of course be a set of Eon's Elite Gill Grunt.
One for each Element.

Water: Gill Grunt
Fire: Grill Grunt
Earth: Soil Grunt
Air: Whirl Grunt
Magic: Wiz Grunt
Tech: Mill Grunt
Life: Will Grunt
Undead: Thrill Grunt

You forgot the Light and Dark ones

Light: Game Grunt
Dark: Abyss Grunt

I just wanted Spyro instead of Pop Fizz , Gill Grunt's new look is sick and Jet Vac has an amazing vehicle. But I feel Pop Fizz so far seems like a let down , the concept is meh.

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The skylanders game will never be all gill grunts, they have to put some eons elites in there and up the price to $700, then call them cheap for such awesome characters that are so OP they're not even fun

Well there will of course be a set of Eon's Elite Gill Grunt.
One for each Element.

Water: Gill Grunt
Fire: Grill Grunt
Earth: Soil Grunt
Air: Whirl Grunt
Magic: Wiz Grunt
Tech: Mill Grunt
Life: Will Grunt
Undead: Thrill Grunt

Don't forget the title of Skylanders 6: Gruntlanders: Good Gill Grunting ;-).

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The skylanders game will never be all gill grunts, they have to put some eons elites in there and up the price to $700, then call them cheap for such awesome characters that are so OP they're not even fun

Well there will of course be a set of Eon's Elite Gill Grunt.
One for each Element.

Water: Gill Grunt
Fire: Grill Grunt
Earth: Soil Grunt
Air: Whirl Grunt
Magic: Wiz Grunt
Tech: Mill Grunt
Life: Will Grunt
Undead: Thrill Grunt

Lol, this made me laugh. Don't forget about light and dark (if they ever get elite):

Light: Sun Grunt
Dark: Shadow Grunt

Now seriously, I also don't get the developer's obsession with gill grunt and the others. So many ggod ideas for new characters that haven't been used yet (gargoyles, fairies, chinese dragons, etc)

We have seen enough of these topics, we'd rather want some non over used Skylanders with awesome new movesets...

TakeYourLemons, you couldn't be more right.

First they said our traps wouldn't have worked as they did in Trap Team (which kinda annoyed me but... Ok, at least they do give some kind of Elemental boost and unlock a Skystone based on the trapped villain) but now they flat out told us:
"we didn't make them work because we wanted you to buy the brand new Trophies. Of course we could have make traps work like Trophies but, come on, don't you want to also get Gill Grunt number 234 and his vehicle along with one of them...?"

I mean, why include Dive-Clops and Dive Bomber in the Golden Queen's Racing Action Pack when you have the Skylands God we all love and want ready to be thrown in the mix...?
I'm starting to think they really consider these revamps to be as important as the brand new Skylanders...
No way.

I won't lie, I fear for the future.
What if they keep going with this revamps concept and one day they say us "if you want to play with your old fan favorites you will have to buy their new versions, because the older ones aren't supported anymore""...?
I sincerely don't think it's that far fetched to suppose seeing what they did with traps.

I'll be clear.
ENOUGH with reposes unless you completely ditch "fan (developer) favorites" and start giving a chance to the other ones too.

I don't want to see revamps take the place of brand new Skylanders again during the life of this whole series.
End of the story, thanks for reading and have a great day.

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TakeYourLemons, you couldn't be more right.

First they said our traps wouldn't have worked as they did in Trap Team (which kinda annoyed me but... Ok, at least they do give some kind of Elemental boost and unlock a Skystone based on the trapped villain) but now they flat out told us:
"we didn't make them work because we wanted you to buy the brand new Trophies. Of course we could have make traps work like Trophies but, come on, don't you want to also get Gill Grunt number 234 and his vehicle along with one of them...?"

I mean, why include Dive-Clops and Dive Bomber in the Golden Queen's Racing Action Pack when you have the Skylands God we all love and want ready to be thrown in the mix...?
I'm starting to think they really consider these revamps to be as important as the brand new Skylanders...
No way.

I won't lie, I fear for the future.
What if they keep going with this revamps concept and one day they say us "if you want to play with your old fan favorites you will have to buy their new versions, because the older ones aren't supported anymore""...?
I sincerely don't think it's that far fetched to suppose seeing what they did with traps.

I'll be clear.
ENOUGH with reposes unless you completely ditch "fan (developer) favorites" and start giving a chance to the other ones too.

I don't want to see revamps take the place of brand new Skylanders again during the life of this whole series.
End of the story, thanks for reading and have a great day.

My thoughts exactly. I think that rip tide, wrecking ball, sonic boom, ECT should have returned. Also, why only 1 light and 1 dark character this year?

Also, I was fine with what they said traps did this year, until they told us we need to spend our money on something we don't even want to get the ability to do something we already paid for the ability to do. And when we sacrifice our money and get it again, they are going to think that we bought it for the gill grunt and make another. I have spoken

Agree.

Aaaaaaand that's why I'm going tp buy it separately on eBay.
Activision won't get much of my money this year unfortunately for them.

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Agree.

Aaaaaaand that's why I'm going tp buy it separately on eBay.
Activision won't get much of my money this year unfortunately for them.

Same. My bowser will be coming off of amazon/eBay. Take that activision!