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Liberals prove that they are against free speech in Spongebob controversy [CLOSED]
Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7158
#1 Posted: 18:57:47 28/03/2015 | Topic Creator
So, a certain line from the Spongebob episode "Spongebob, you're fired!" really got the liberal panties in a twist. Hypersensitivity alert.

"In 2013, the episode "SpongeBob, You're Fired!" was criticized for its line that is referring to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food Stamps benefit).[44][45][46] In a scene from the episode, Patrick Star tried to show SpongeBob "the benefits of being unemployed," at which he said in response, "Unemployment may be fun for you, but I need to get a job."[44][45][46] The scene was meant to demonstrate the title character's "eternal optimism and willingness to get back to work," and "do it in a way that's still funny and relatable."[45] However, it was reported that political activists claim the "notorious line" as a "slam" to the Food Stamps benefit.[44][45][46] In a report byThe Hollywood Reporter, it stated there that the episode may have a political agenda about the social safety net.[47] It added that "It's not the first time SpongeBob has waded into social commentary, though usually when it does, it bugs the right and supports the left."[47] This incident sparked a political debate,[44][47][48][49] after the New York Post and Fox News remarked on the episode. The Media Matters for America, a politically progressive media watchdog group, responded.[47][50] According to the group, the attacking news media, both owned by News Corporation, are using the episode "to slam poor people who use social services."[50][51] In response to Fox News, Media Matters immediately posted an item titled "Right-Wing Media Use SpongeBob SquarePants' Firing To Attack Social Safety Net", arguing that the talking heads "are using the firing of fictional cartoon character SpongeBob SquarePants to attack the social safety net and those who rely on it."[47][50][52] The article said "Right-wing media have a long history of attacking the social safety net. Media Matters was "also particularly bothered by [a] line from The Post story: "Lest he sit around idly, mooching off the social services of Bikini Bottom, a depressed SpongeBob sets out to return to gainful employment wherever he can find it," reporter Andrea Morabito wrote. "No spoilers -- but it's safe to say that our hero doesn't end up on food stamps, as his patty-making skills turn out to be in high demand."[47][47][50] Furthermore, the coverage from Fox News prompted civil rights activist, and talk show host Al Sharpton of MSNBC to "stick up for poor Americans."[53][54][55] Sharpton remarked in the October 31 episode of PoliticsNation, "The right-wingers found a new hero in its war against the poor [...] SpongeBob SquarePants. That's right. SpongeBob SquarePants [...] So a sponge who lives in a pineapple under the sea doesn't need government help. That means no one does?"

The funny thing is that they completely misinterpreted the line. Spongebob was basically saying "Patrick, if you want to be unemployed and on welfare then you can. But I would like to get a job." He wasn't making any commentary on people who are on food stamps. This proves how vicious liberals like Al Sharpton are in attacking free speech within a freaking cartoon.
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#2 Posted: 18:59:34 28/03/2015
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#3 Posted: 19:00:13 28/03/2015
psst no one gives a crap
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#4 Posted: 19:00:19 28/03/2015
That episode sucked. A lot.
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#5 Posted: 19:01:24 28/03/2015
That is easily one of the worst episodes of SpongeBob to be totally honest.
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#6 Posted: 19:02:07 28/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: spyro and sonic
psst I don't give a crap



Good for you. I don't make every topic just to entertain your interests.
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#7 Posted: 19:32:42 28/03/2015
It's a big overreaction on the part of those people to assume that Spongebob is attacking food stamps, but don't act like conservatives never got butthurt over a cartoon too (while also gravely missing the point).

Also liberals are by far not the only people "limiting free speech". How many conservatives out there would prefer whistleblowers be gone despite them exercising free speech and press?
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#8 Posted: 19:35:57 28/03/2015
Who the hell watches post 2003 SpongeBob anyway?
Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7158
#9 Posted: 19:45:25 28/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: CAV
It's a big overreaction on the part of those people to assume that Spongebob is attacking food stamps, but don't act like conservatives never got butthurt over a cartoon too (while also gravely missing the point).

Also liberals are by far not the only people "limiting free speech". How many conservatives out there would prefer whistleblowers be gone despite them exercising free speech and press?



While I'm not against homosexuals or transgenders, I can see the logic in the reactions of those moms. These are mothers who were likely born in the 60's, 70's maybe 80's. Only in the past 10 or 15 years have we seen this promotion of transgenders in the media. When a transgender cartoon superhero is made for the first time, there's going to be some negative reaction, and in this case it's from an older population that didn't grow up exposed to these kinds of things. As the American media changes, its young population will change with it, while the older population is going to be in for some shockers like these moms got when they heard of the first transgender cartoon superhero.
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#10 Posted: 19:46:40 28/03/2015
Meh.

Morons, I guess?....
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#11 Posted: 19:49:55 28/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
While I'm not against homosexuals or transgenders, I can see the logic in the reactions of those moms. These are mothers who were likely born in the 60's, 70's maybe 80's. Only in the past 10 or 15 years have we seen this promotion of transgenders in the media. When a transgender cartoon superhero is made for the first time, there's going to be some negative reaction, and in this case it's from an older population that didn't grow up exposed to these kinds of things. As the American media changes, its young population will change with it, while the older population is going to be in for some shockers like these moms got when they heard of the first transgender cartoon superhero.


There's one major point that everyone (including that article and its title) is missing though; SheZow isn't actually about a transgender. The show is simply about a boy who gains superpowers, except the powers are meant for a girl so he has to wear a costume meant for a girl. I haven't seen the show so I can't tell for sure, but I don't think I've heard anything about the boy questioning his gender or identifying as female.

However conservatives (and I suppose Huffington here in attempt to make the show sound more liberal) saw that as the boy being transgender and threw a hissyfit about it, claiming that the show will corrupt their children because how dare a boy wear girly clothing.

Also SheZow is Australian/Canadian.
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Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7158
#12 Posted: 19:57:38 28/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: CAV
Quote: Mrmorrises
While I'm not against homosexuals or transgenders, I can see the logic in the reactions of those moms. These are mothers who were likely born in the 60's, 70's maybe 80's. Only in the past 10 or 15 years have we seen this promotion of transgenders in the media. When a transgender cartoon superhero is made for the first time, there's going to be some negative reaction, and in this case it's from an older population that didn't grow up exposed to these kinds of things. As the American media changes, its young population will change with it, while the older population is going to be in for some shockers like these moms got when they heard of the first transgender cartoon superhero.


There's one major point that everyone (including that article and its title) is missing though; SheZow isn't actually about a transgender. The show is simply about a boy who gains superpowers, except the powers are meant for a girl so he has to wear a costume meant for a girl. I haven't seen the show so I can't tell for sure, but I don't think I've heard anything about the boy questioning his gender or identifying as female.

However conservatives (and I suppose Huffington here in attempt to make the show sound more liberal) saw that as the boy being transgender and threw a hissyfit about it, claiming that the show will corrupt their children because how dare a boy wear girly clothing.

Also SheZow is Australian/Canadian.


Wait, so is the Members of One Million Moms group American or Australian/Canadian? There's still going to be some controversy to be expected, we still have adults who grew up exposed to different kinds of cartoons, and so when they see something like this it may just ruffle their feathers. Our nation is changing and we are gradually growing to accept a greater variety of concepts, but not every single person of every single age group is going to accept something overnight.
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#13 Posted: 20:02:05 28/03/2015
I remember this..
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#14 Posted: 20:02:46 28/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
Wait, so is the Members of One Million Moms group American or Australian/Canadian? There's still going to be some controversy to be expected, we still have adults who grew up exposed to different kinds of cartoons, and so when they see something like this it may just ruffle their feathers. Our nation is changing and we are gradually growing to accept a greater variety of concepts, but not every single person of every single age group is going to accept something overnight.


The group is American, since this controversy started when The Hub was bringing the show to America.

Fair enough, but at the same time you have to admit that it's a conservative viewpoint to not approve of something like this. Yeah you were raised with something different, but preferring to keep to older ideals and not be progressive with your ideas is practically what being conservative means.

Just like with the Spongebob controversy. Keep in mind that I'm not defending liberals because in both examples presented here it's a case of overreacting over nothing. But liberals could see it as the show keeping to more conservative ideals of "no free hand outs; go get a job you lazy bum" instead of being a bit more progressive and approving of social assistance like food stamps. It's the wrong way to look at it for sure (I see the quote and don't see criticism of anything) but I think that might've been what got them bothered.
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#15 Posted: 20:41:33 28/03/2015
remember when conservatives thought spongebob was gay :^)
Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7158
#16 Posted: 20:50:38 28/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: Blackholes_Wolf
remember when conservatives thought spongebob was gay :^)



Plenty of non-political viewers of Spongebob actually think Spongebob is gay.
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#17 Posted: 23:28:42 28/03/2015
Quote: TheJMAN184
Quote: Blackholes_Wolf
remember when conservatives thought spongebob was gay :^)


I remember when spongebob was said to be making kids dumber.



AHAHAHAHAHAH... ohh... god. -wipes tear-

I remember that.
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#18 Posted: 23:41:31 28/03/2015
It kind of baffles me that people are so concerned with the governmental symbolism(for lack of better word) behind a single line in an episode of a show starring a talking sponge to be honest.
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#19 Posted: 23:45:41 28/03/2015
Quote: pankakesparx456
It kind of baffles me that people are so concerned with the governmental symbolism(for lack of better word) behind a single line in an episode of a show starring a talking sponge to be honest.



Agreed, the only reason why this topic was made was because Mrmorrises wanted to point out a connection between a show with silly sea animals, and politics.
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#20 Posted: 00:33:08 29/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: Blackholes_Wolf
remember when conservatives thought spongebob was gay :^)



Plenty of non-political viewers of Spongebob actually think Spongebob is gay.



Didn't the creator say he was asexual lol?
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#21 Posted: 03:44:27 29/03/2015
after reading the topic name i cant possibly take anything said here seriously
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#22 Posted: 04:00:43 29/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: valskeletor
after reading the topic name i cant possibly take anything said here seriously



After reading this post with absolutely no proper punctuation or capitalization, I can't take anything you say seriously.
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#23 Posted: 04:23:23 29/03/2015
republicans don't get laid
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#24 Posted: 04:37:09 29/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: Spyrobaro
i don't even

Quote: Mrmorrises
After reading this post with absolutely no proper punctuation or capitalization, I can't take anything you say seriously.

idk, it feels a lot more casual to just type like that sometimes? at least, that's how i see it. i used to be really ****ing uptight about that sort of thing but honestly i don't even care anymore.



Usually when trying to convey a serious message like she was it makes the post more credible when it's completed with proper grammar, spelling, capitalization and punctuation.
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#25 Posted: 05:35:15 29/03/2015
Conservatives think that the government watches you through your webcam.
Liberals think that all cops are scum and aren't here to protect us.

Both sides are equally ridiculous.
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#26 Posted: 15:01:40 29/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: Mrmorrises
Usually when trying to convey a serious message like she was it makes the post more credible when it's completed with proper grammar, spelling, capitalization and punctuation.


this is darkspyro not the league of evil grammatically correct trolls



All I'm saying is, if you say "mrmorrises i think ur topics r so absurd."

I will be less likely to take you seriously than if you said: "Mrmorrises, I think your topics are so absurd."
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#27 Posted: 01:26:00 30/03/2015
As much as I would love to play political chess with Mrmorrises and CAV, I just have to ask: does such an ambiguous line even matter?
valskeletor Yellow Sparx Gems: 1155
#28 Posted: 02:20:00 30/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: valskeletor
after reading the topic name i cant possibly take anything said here seriously



After reading this post with absolutely no proper punctuation or capitalization, I can't take anything you say seriously.



ooo u sure got me there

a conservative spongebob conspiracy theorist doesnt take me seriously my life is in shambles
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#29 Posted: 02:31:38 30/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: valskeletor
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: valskeletor
after reading the topic name i cant possibly take anything said here seriously



After reading this post with absolutely no proper punctuation or capitalization, I can't take anything you say seriously.



ooo u sure got me there

a conservative spongebob conspiracy theorist doesnt take me seriously my life is in shambles



Good point. You're probably never taken seriously by anyone in the first place, so it doesn't matter to you when I tell you I can't take you seriously either.
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#30 Posted: 02:35:25 30/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: valskeletor
Quote: Mrmorrises



After reading this post with absolutely no proper punctuation or capitalization, I can't take anything you say seriously.



ooo u sure got me there

a conservative spongebob conspiracy theorist doesnt take me seriously my life is in shambles



Good point. You're probably never taken seriously by anyone in the first place, so it doesn't matter to you when I tell you I can't take you seriously either.



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#31 Posted: 02:38:12 30/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: valskeletor
Quote: Mrmorrises



After reading this post with absolutely no proper punctuation or capitalization, I can't take anything you say seriously.



ooo u sure got me there

a conservative spongebob conspiracy theorist doesnt take me seriously my life is in shambles



Good point. You're probably never taken seriously by anyone in the first place, so it doesn't matter to you when I tell you I can't take you seriously either.

you tried
and failed miserably
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Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7158
#32 Posted: 02:45:00 30/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: arceustheprime
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: valskeletor



ooo u sure got me there

a conservative spongebob conspiracy theorist doesnt take me seriously my life is in shambles



Good point. You're probably never taken seriously by anyone in the first place, so it doesn't matter to you when I tell you I can't take you seriously either.

stop making intelligible arguments u little *****!!!!!!!


Sorry.
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#33 Posted: 02:49:25 30/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: valskeletor
Quote: Mrmorrises



After reading this post with absolutely no proper punctuation or capitalization, I can't take anything you say seriously.



ooo u sure got me there

a conservative spongebob conspiracy theorist doesnt take me seriously my life is in shambles



Good point. You're probably never taken seriously by anyone in the first place, so it doesn't matter to you when I tell you I can't take you seriously either.



damn mrmorrises over here spitting raw fire

literally me right now:
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#34 Posted: 03:06:31 30/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: arceustheprime

stop making intelligible arguments u little *****!!!!!!!


Sorry.


Quote: Mrmorrises
Good point. You're probably never taken seriously by anyone in the first place, so it doesn't matter to you when I tell you I can't take you seriously either.


This is intelligible?

This is on the same level of "well your mom never loved you so **** you". I expect better from you.
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#35 Posted: 03:07:48 30/03/2015
Newsflash:

No one gives a ****
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#36 Posted: 03:08:59 30/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: CAV
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: arceustheprime

stop making intelligible arguments u little *****!!!!!!!


Sorry.


Quote: Mrmorrises
Good point. You're probably never taken seriously by anyone in the first place, so it doesn't matter to you when I tell you I can't take you seriously either.


This is intelligible?

This is on the same level of "well your mom never loved you so **** you". I expect better from you.


It's just me looking into a distinct possibility here. Really, illiterate trolls don't tend to care whether or not people take them seriously. It's a more intelligible response than what Vaskeletor is doing, which is just throwing sarcastic retorts at me, like they say "Sarcasm is the refuge of a shallow mind."
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#37 Posted: 03:13:51 30/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: PwnageFTW
Newsflash:

No one gives a ****



Newsflash:

You can't speak for everyone on the site, you can only speak for yourself. Additionally this topic has garnered more posts than the average topic in this section gets. I know this might be a lot for me to ask of you, but please think before you post.
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#38 Posted: 03:18:25 30/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: CAV
Quote: Mrmorrises


Sorry.


Quote: Mrmorrises
Good point. You're probably never taken seriously by anyone in the first place, so it doesn't matter to you when I tell you I can't take you seriously either.


This is intelligible?

This is on the same level of "well your mom never loved you so **** you". I expect better from you.


It's just me looking into a distinct possibility here. Really, illiterate trolls don't tend to care whether or not people take them seriously.



I'm hardly illiterate, I just choose to type in a simpler format when it's nothing formal because it's much easier on my dyslexia and lets me type about 3x faster.
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Mrmorrises Platinum Sparx Gems: 7158
#39 Posted: 03:28:29 30/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: valskeletor
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: CAV



This is intelligible?

This is on the same level of "well your mom never loved you so **** you". I expect better from you.


It's just me looking into a distinct possibility here. Really, illiterate trolls don't tend to care whether or not people take them seriously.



I'm hardly illiterate, I just choose to type in a simpler format when it's nothing formal because it's much easier on my dyslexia and lets me type about 3x faster.


So you're not exactly illiterate, I'm glad to hear that, but you haven't exactly said anything that doesn't make yourself sound like a full blown troll.
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#40 Posted: 03:29:53 30/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: PwnageFTW
Newsflash:

No one gives a ****



Newsflash:

You can't speak for everyone on the site, you can only speak for yourself. Additionally this topic has garnered more posts than the average topic in this section gets. I know this might be a lot for me to ask of you, but please think before you post.



Newsflash:

Mrmorrises, for those who are on the side of PwnageFTW, like me, ... the topics you make, though they show your level of intelligence and use of logic to prove your point, also show how rude that you are too. Not to mention that we've hade enough of your controversial topics, as this is not the place for them; go to Idle Chatter.

Go on, reply, shoot me down if you can, I can get right back on up.
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#41 Posted: 03:33:32 30/03/2015
Quote: theuone
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: PwnageFTW
Newsflash:

No one gives a ****



Newsflash:

You can't speak for everyone on the site, you can only speak for yourself. Additionally this topic has garnered more posts than the average topic in this section gets. I know this might be a lot for me to ask of you, but please think before you post.



Newsflash:

Mrmorrises, for those who are on the side of PwnageFTW, like me, ... the topics you make, though they show your level of intelligence and use of logic to prove your point, also show how rude that you are too. Not to mention that we've hade enough of your controversial topics, as this is not the place for them; go to Idle Chatter.

Go on, reply, shoot me down if you can, I can get right back on up.


To be honest S&N needs more controversial topics.
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#42 Posted: 03:35:27 30/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: theuone
Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: PwnageFTW
Newsflash:

No one gives a ****



Newsflash:

You can't speak for everyone on the site, you can only speak for yourself. Additionally this topic has garnered more posts than the average topic in this section gets. I know this might be a lot for me to ask of you, but please think before you post.



Newsflash:

Mrmorrises, for those who are on the side of PwnageFTW, like me, ... the topics you make, though they show your level of intelligence and use of logic to prove your point, also show how rude that you are too. Not to mention that we've hade enough of your controversial topics, as this is not the place for them; go to Idle Chatter.

Go on, reply, shoot me down if you can, I can get right back on up.



I'm not going to sugarcoat every topic and post I make here, get over it.
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#43 Posted: 03:37:35 30/03/2015
Quote: Mrmorrises
It's just me looking into a distinct possibility here. Really, illiterate trolls don't tend to care whether or not people take them seriously.


It's still fairly petty and if you really wanted to prove yourself "better" you could ignore her.

Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: PwnageFTW
Newsflash:

No one gives a ****



Newsflash:

You can't speak for everyone on the site, you can only speak for yourself. Additionally this topic has garnered more posts than the average topic in this section gets. I know this might be a lot for me to ask of you, but please think before you post.


A lot of these posts were people saying they don't care to be fair.

We can have an interesting discussion about politics, groups, and hidden messages in media relating to it. Let's not boil it down to petty fighting because someone is being sarcastic with you.
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#44 Posted: 03:40:10 30/03/2015 | Topic Creator
Quote: CAV
Quote: Mrmorrises
It's just me looking into a distinct possibility here. Really, illiterate trolls don't tend to care whether or not people take them seriously.


It's still fairly petty and if you really wanted to prove yourself "better" you could ignore her.

Quote: Mrmorrises
Quote: PwnageFTW
Newsflash:

No one gives a ****



Newsflash:

You can't speak for everyone on the site, you can only speak for yourself. Additionally this topic has garnered more posts than the average topic in this section gets. I know this might be a lot for me to ask of you, but please think before you post.


A lot of these posts were people saying they don't care to be fair.

We can have an interesting discussion about politics, groups, and hidden messages in media relating to it. Let's not boil it down to petty fighting because someone is being sarcastic with you.



I counted two: Spyro and Sonic, and PWNageFTW.
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#45 Posted: 03:44:25 30/03/2015
I count four that say or imply that they're indifferent to the matter, but I digress.
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#46 Posted: 03:51:21 30/03/2015 | Topic Creator
And yet in an ironic twist, everyone who's been saying that they don't care must have cared enough to have taken the time to read the whole thing that I posted, otherwise they're just saying it to spite me (which, frankly wouldn't be surprising because a lot of people like to do that here).
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